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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 02:16 PM
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US confirms its troops killed Reuters journalist in Iraq

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/MAC162490.htm

US confirms its troops killed Reuters journalist in Iraq

BAGHDAD, Sept 1 (Reuters) - The U.S. military confirmed on Thursday that its soldiers killed a Reuters journalist in Iraq but said their action was "appropriate".

Describing Sunday's incident, when television soundman Waleed Khaled was killed by multiple shots, Major General Rick Lynch said: "That car approached at a high rate of speed and then conducted activity that in itself was suspicious. There were individuals hanging outside with what looked to be a weapon.

"It stopped and immediately put itself in reverse. Again suspicious activity. Our soldiers on the scene used established rules of engagement and all the training received ... decided that it was appropriate to engage that particular car.

"And as a result of that the driver was indeed killed and the passenger was hurt by shards of glass."



Please read this account of the incident:


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/from_our_own_correspondent/4202186.stm

Innocent civilian

Waleed Khaled appears to have been fired on without any warning. He leaves behind a wife who is four months pregnant and a seven-year-old daughter.

The Reuters cameraman with him was injured and, although the main witness to what had happened, he was promptly arrested by the Americans.

....

When an American journalist working for Reuters, managed to get to the scene with a British security adviser, he found the Americans laughing and joking around Waleed's body.
They were also refusing to give the injured cameraman any water.

The security adviser - a former British soldier - said it was apparent to him that the American troops wanted to clear away any evidence before there could be an outside inquiry.

He said what was most worrying was that the unit did not seem to care that they had shot dead an innocent civilian.




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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 02:21 PM
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1. you know it really funny, because all it takes is one rodney king
to start a riot. you would think they (american soldiers) would know this by now.
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alkaline9 Donating Member (586 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 03:04 PM
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3. my bet is that lots of Americans that are in favor of war...
...are the same ones that think Rodney King deserved it. We are living in such sad times, its heart breaking.
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 03:59 PM
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11. Hey, King *did* deserve it
After all, he kept trying to escape when all those cops wanted to do was bash his skull in. He should have lain there and taken it like a good little citizen.
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High Plains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 02:46 PM
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2. More heroism from our troops
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 03:07 PM
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 03:27 PM
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7. Bull Fucking Shit.
I tired of you apologists. Lets take some words right from the fucking article.

"It stopped and immediately put itself in reverse."

That means that they were no longer a threat to that check point or what ever the fuck we put-up out there. Stop condoning the killing of innocents.

Jay

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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 03:52 PM
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10. I think what you should do is
go to an Army base, to the mess hall, and say to all present more-or-less what you said to me.

Then report back.
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 04:01 PM
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13. Ya I'll Get Right On That.
I said it to you.

Jay
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 04:20 PM
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16. and I think you should go to a Neo-Nazi rally
and say "Hey, Jews ain't that bad" and then report back.

see how it's irrelevant?

and no, I am not comparing soldiers to neo-nazis, just sometimes it's not a good idea to speak truth to power.
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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 09:56 AM
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30. You just proved his point n/t
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High Plains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 04:03 PM
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14. Just the facts, ma'am
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 04:25 PM
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 03:09 PM
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5. Soldiers said their action was "appropriate"
Well gee, I guess we should just let the accused killers decide what is or isn't "appropriate" in any given situation, and let the investigation proceed or founder from there.

And Judge Dingleberry can't decide whether the photos and videos from the Iraq prison camps should be released. Remind me to commit any crimes I might decide to commit in his jurisdiction, since he seems to think that the accused are in control of all evidence to be presented or considered.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 10:35 PM
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25. Yup. so were all the other journalists they gunned down to keep their
little secrets safe there.
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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 03:16 PM
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6. I was wondering what kind of bad Buscho news...
would be dumped during this national crisis.

Now I know.

I expect more while people are distracted.
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AnnInLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 03:36 PM
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8. kick, kick, kick
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 03:49 PM
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9. The US killed unarmed defenseless and dying POWs
Remember the video showing a US soldier dispatching two Iraqi insurgents at point blank range who had been wounded two days before? An inquiry completely cleared the soldier and found the murders "appropriate". Therefore, why should the killing of a journalist surprise anyone?
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:27 PM
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21. Yes we remember that
and the video of a downed Iraqi who was shot dead and the glee and exhiliration expressed by the soldier who offed the man. Hard to support that. As for the journalist, his name indicates he is a mid-easterner. Hence the saying, I guess, "all is fair in love and war". Unhappily.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 04:00 PM
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12. Thanks for both articles. We don't need a Bush slug to explain
Edited on Thu Sep-01-05 04:11 PM by Judi Lynn
what is happening.

By the way, I hope the Democrats who are reading this thread saw the article in the last day or two which said that we've killed more journalists in Bush's pet war than we did in the entire VietNam war.

Real food for thought.
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defiant1 Donating Member (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 04:16 PM
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15. Ohhhhhh k.....
*snipped from 2nd article*

"It is an easy analogy for critics of the American presence here to bandy about, and the truth is that there are both similarities and differences.

Half a million American troops spent 10 years in Vietnam fighting the communists before suffering their humiliating withdrawal.

This time the United States' commitment is much smaller, casualties have been fewer and the aim is to leave heads-held-high much sooner."

So to him, the differences are:

(1) we don't have as many troops over there
(2) not as many have died
(3) and our goal is to get out quicker then we did in 'Nam

Don't those seem kind of trivial?
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 04:21 PM
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17. what a great week
to release bad news, huh?
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 05:52 PM
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19. journalists = enemy #1
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:35 PM
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22. Because truth = enemy #1
to the people who want this war to continue. :(
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:17 PM
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20. Appropriate? Killing an innocent person is "appropriate"?
Disgusting.
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 10:13 PM
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23. Their are NO words for this.
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Southpaw Bookworm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 10:17 PM
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24. Anderson Cooper better watch out
Edited on Thu Sep-01-05 10:18 PM by Southpaw Bookworm
He's probably first on the domestic hit list.

Appropriate?!

:wow:
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 10:42 PM
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26. Notice it's "always" a "speeding vehicle" excuse!
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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 10:51 PM
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27. the "hearts and minds" campaign n/t
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 12:05 AM
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28. This is horrible horrible horrible. What has our nation become? n/t
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Lilith Velkor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 02:18 AM
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29. A fascist shithole. n/t
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 10:39 AM
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31. "engage" is a synonym for "blast the shit out of"
and not "To pledge or promise, especially to marry".

I looked in my military thesaurus.
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globol@comcast.net Donating Member (110 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 07:39 PM
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32. because he was reporting the truth ?
I bet
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