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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 06:22 PM
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White House Backpedals on Flood Control
http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/bw-wh/2005/sep/01/090104609.html

WASHINGTON (AP) - The White House scrambled Thursday to defend itself against criticism that it has consistently proposed cutting the budget for Army Corps of Engineers water and flood control projects - including several that could have mitigated the disaster in New Orleans.

Just in February, President Bush proposed cutting the Corps' budget by 7 percent. The year before, Bush proposed a 13 percent cut.

Both cuts are part of an annual ritual in Washington in which the president shortchanges lawmakers' pet projects, knowing Congress will restore the money later on.

On Thursday, however, the Bush White House made available top Corps officials to assure reporters that cuts to the agency's budget did not cause the disaster. Even though the administration has chronically cut back on the Corps of Engineers' own requests for funding - including two key New Orleans-area projects - White House officials trumpeted the administration's support for the Corps.

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achtung_circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 06:24 PM
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1. Correction, asshole
Edited on Thu Sep-01-05 06:24 PM by achtung_circus
the cuts did not cause the hurricane.

They caused or contibuted to the disaster.

Case closed.

Asshole

(not you)
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 06:25 PM
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2. yea, like I'm gonna believe
anything coming out of these lying mouths.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 06:25 PM
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3. I interpret that as Rove directed Army officials to lie
And I have the feeling that a majority of Americans feel the same way.

Personally, I think that prioritizing tax cuts and optional wars above the safety of the citizenry is DEPRAVED indifference, and THAT is a criminal, and therefore impeachable offense.
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chomskysright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:58 PM
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20. "MALEVOLENT NEGLECT" (u can hook that to the NPD that Bush's GOT...
Narcissistic Personality Disorder: see the DSM IV for psychiatric dx
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 12:12 AM
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22. and the only people left in management positions
are those who know if they don't lie they will lose their jobs in disgrace.

Which is what Bush does to people who speak the truth.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 06:26 PM
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4. We shall see if the MSM rolls over on this one....
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cmdrxog Donating Member (28 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 06:52 PM
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6. they'll roll
The people trapped by the situation are being portrayed as the reason for failure to deliver water, food or rescue. The spin is blaming the "looters and shooters" for what can only be a deliberate policy of letting the poor perish. Throw in the appeal to racism and not many will even remember the words flood control. Another classic sleight-of-hand
trick from the master delusionist.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 06:57 PM
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9. they'll roll like bb's
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StrafingMoose Donating Member (742 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 06:59 PM
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10. Exactly...
Edited on Thu Sep-01-05 06:59 PM by StrafingMoose

that's what I get in Canada though. Come on, "we can't do our work, our choppers are getting shot at". Seriously, who the hell would have the balls to shoot a _military_ Chinook?!

Bush's minion? "Uh...well, we know the flood control was bad, let's 'produce' an excuse for not being able to deal with it now!"

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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 06:36 PM
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5. My Favorite Lie
"Flood control has been a priority of this administration from Day One," White House spokesman Scott McClellan told reporters.

No...

I-raq and tax-cuts for billionaires and 5-week Pig Farm vacations were your fucking priorities from Day One.
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athenap Donating Member (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 09:53 PM
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15. He just missed a word...
"Low"
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fob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:57 PM
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19. Well, asskroft made sure New Orleans was HIS ttop priority upon
receiving the ill-gotten reins of the AG position. He put a sting on hookers in New Orleans ABOVE terrorism in early 2001.
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StrafingMoose Donating Member (742 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 06:54 PM
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7. And if this gets too much of a hot potato...


Bush will blame al-Qaeda! "They hate freedom, democracy, and...New Orleans!"


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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 06:56 PM
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8. Bush says that prayer is sufficient. Levees not needed. nt
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 06:59 PM
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11. I saw that top Army Corp guy twice today--doing exactly that!!
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:01 PM
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12. "cuts to the agency's budget did not cause the disaster"
Uh no shit? Of COURSE they didn't CAUSE the hurricane! They did however make NO less able to DEAL WITH the EFFECTS of it
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:03 PM
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13. Compare the republican apologists' tap-dancing to this DU thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1744903&mesg_id=1744903

It's a Reuters report that links Bush's budget cuts DIRECTLY to the level of damage in New Orleans.

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Bush administration funding cuts forced federal engineers to delay improvements on the levees, floodgates and pumping stations that failed to protect New Orleans from Hurricane Katrina's floodwaters, agency documents showed on Thursday.

The former head of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, the agency that handles the infrastructure of the nation's waterways, said the damage in New Orleans probably would have been much less extensive had flood-control efforts been fully funded over the years.

"Levees would have been higher, levees would have been bigger, there would have been other pumps put in," said Mike Parker, a former Mississippi congressman who headed the engineering agency from 2001 to 2002.

"I'm not saying it would have been totally alleviated but it would have been less than the damage that we have got now."


Direct link to Yahoo:

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20050901/pl_nm/weather_katrina_funding_dc_1
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:07 PM
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14. Let them run around plugging
...the holes in their political levee. And then drown.
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KAZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 10:06 PM
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16. Let God sort em out....
I won't type the first part of that saying.

Chimp, I spit on you and your family.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 10:17 PM
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17. The EXCUSE ADMINISTRATION....its been all excuses, no beef, not even tuna
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 10:33 PM
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18. You didn't finish shoring up the levees, did you?
And you didn't because the funding for it was pulled, wasn't it?

So HOW can you say the cuts and the failed levees are not connected?

:headbang:
rocknation
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chomskysright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 12:00 AM
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21. BRING DOWN THE FURY OF THE PEOPLE
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