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modrepub Donating Member (484 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:06 PM
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New bankruptcy law a problem for Katrina victims
By Jonathan Stempel
1 hour, 17 minutes ago



NEW YORK (Reuters) - Hurricane Katrina is expected to cause a spurt of bankruptcy filings by storm victims -- and sweeping changes in U.S. bankruptcy laws may leave them even more strapped than they otherwise might be.

<snip>

"People who are seriously affected by this hurricane are not going to be able to file bankruptcy by October 17," said Henry Sommer, co-editor of "Collier on Bankruptcy," a leading reference work. "They have more pressing things in their lives, like survival."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/weather_katrina_bankruptcy_dc
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:06 PM
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1. Oh, this is going to backfire on those politicians big time. n/t
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Lindacooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:08 PM
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3. From your lips to 'god's' ears.
I hope this is the DEATH of the fucking Repuke party.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:12 PM
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9. You're not the only one, my friend.
Not by a LONG shot. And I'd venture to say you have a LOT more people joining your chorus, after all this.

Tipping point - thy name is Katrina. I think America and the mainstream media have just awakened. Finally.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:22 PM
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10. And the dems who voted
for it.
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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 08:02 PM
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20. Harold Ford you fuking douche
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TygrBright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 09:25 PM
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23. If ONLY....
>>I hope this is the DEATH of the fucking Repuke party.<<

...it were just the GOPpies.

Unfortunately, many Dems are also wholly owned henchfolk of the "financial services(!) industry" and helped hold down the American people for this anal rape.

With any luck we'll lose the lot of them.

unabashedly vindictively,
Bright
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TommyO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:23 PM
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11. Including the democrats
who supported this travesty, and good riddance, maybe we'll get a few more real Democrats in the House and Senate.
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 10:42 PM
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27. Senator Harry Reid voted for the bankruptcy bill. I got a condescending
form letter from him in response to my letter explaining what it was like to lose a job with massive medical bills piling up. He didn't care. He had to support MBNA and others.
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6000eliot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 03:12 AM
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35. Fuck every Democrat who voted for this poor-bashing bill!
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xray s Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:08 PM
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2. It's all part of Bush's "Taking Personal Responsibility" America
You choose to live in New Orleans. So fuck you.

Sincerely
W

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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:10 PM
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8. Yeah. It's called "Everybody Take Responsibility Except Him."
Edited on Thu Sep-01-05 07:11 PM by calimary
george "Let 'em eat cake" bush. FUCK YOU, TOO, fuckwad. I wouldn't want to be remembered the way YOU will be remembered...

Visualize IMPEACHMENT!!!!!!!
Now, come on - doesn't this guy deserve it?
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 08:44 PM
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22. What a perfect picture. n/t
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DebJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:08 PM
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4. oh my God. This is just too much to bear....I have visions of
suicides....ghostly recollections of the Depression...people jumping off the Capitol Building in DC after buying life insurance so their families could eat...
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:09 PM
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5. Oh, good god, no.
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1932 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:10 PM
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6. So many Americans were standing at the precipice without Katrina
being a factor.

Now, Katrina is going give resonance to the idea that people suffer crisese and the government today doesn't care about them.

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madaboutharry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:10 PM
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7. Hopefully, there will be
legislation that will help these people.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:30 PM
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12. How about they cancel that ill-conceived piece of shit tomorrow?
That on e was one big fat fair-weather give away to bastard credit card companies.
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:33 PM
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14. I second that!
Never shoulda been passed to begin with. :mad:
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gulfcoastliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:32 PM
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13. Thisa was Joe Biden's baby
Mr MBNA is to thank for this. What an utter piece of shit.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:40 PM
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15. If I was in that situation
I would fake my own death, move to Switzerland under a new name and Swiss bank account and start over.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:45 PM
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16. Conyers, Watt, Nadler and Lee are tackling this problem. Call your rep!
Bankruptcy


Every Dem had better line up to support this, include the Senators from MBNA.


Rep. John Conyers, Jr., Rep. Mel Watt, Rep. Jerrold Nadler, and Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee announced today that when Congress returns next Tuesday, they will introduce legislation to protect the thousands of families and small businesses financially devastated by Hurricane Katrina from being penalized by anti-debtor provisions contained in the Bankruptcy Abuse Prevention and Consumer Protection Act of 2005, scheduled to take effect on October 17, 2005. Reps. Conyers, Nadler, and Jackson Lee released the following joint statement:

"We are concerned that just as survivors of Hurricane Katrina are beginning to rebuild their lives, the new bankruptcy law will result in a further and unintended financial whammy. Unfortunately, the new law is likely to have the consequence of preventing devestated families from being able to obtain relief from massive and unexpected new financial obligations they are incurring and by forcing them to repay their debt with income they no longer have, but which is counted by the law.

When the Judiciary Committee considered the Bankruptcy Abuse and Consumer Protection Act earlier this year, Ms. Jackson Lee offered an amendment to protect the victims of natural disaster like those now devastated by Hurricane Katrina. While the amendment was defeated on a party line vote without any debate, we hope that in light of recent events our colleagues will recognize the importance of protecting our most financially vulnerable Americans.

The legislation we plan to introduce will prevent new bankruptcy provisions from having adverse and unintended consequences for the hundreds of thousands now facing financial catastrophe by providing needed flexibility for victims of natural disasters in bankruptcy proceedings.

Our common sense bill will insure that we do not compound a natural disaster with a man made financial disaster. We hope to obtain bipartisan support for expedited consideration of this critical legislation."

##109-JUD-9/1/05##

http://atrios.blogspot.com/2005_08_28_atrios_archive.html#112560030552421807
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:50 PM
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17. Yeah but at least all those millionaires millionaires won't be able to
cheat the system. /Sarcasm
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:54 PM
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18. It will be OK for the Airlines to file Bankruptcy. Welcome to the new
third World Amerika.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:18 PM
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29. Don't forget Donal Trump - the bastard.
And he is one of my companies clients. Fortunately, I'm not one the the group working on ANY of his shit.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 07:54 PM
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19. Thank economic traitors like Biden (DINO-MBNA) for this.
Your vote will cause suicides, Biden. I hope you never fucking sleep.

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NEOBuckeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 12:11 AM
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30. What's so bad is that MBNA no longer even exists. Bank of America ate them
Through a recent merger. Call the Bankruptcy Bill their parting shot at the hand that feeds them.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 08:17 PM
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21. it will have to be changed or political heads will roll. no one is going
to survive watching people get screwed paying for a pile of wood that used to be a house after this. buh-bye, repugs.
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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 09:30 PM
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24. Watch out for insurance companies filing bankruptcy before 10/17 n/t
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 10:37 PM
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25. Every rep who voted for that bill
should be held personally responsible for financing the welfare of these people.
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 10:41 PM
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26. I said this very thing here a couple of days ago and got told I was wrong
as the victims are poor and are exempt ...Sadly, we can think our own Senator Harry Reid for screwing the poor here, the people who really do deserve a clean start. Shame on this nation, this greedy corporate trough nation.
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Mr Rabble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 12:24 AM
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33. You know what? Fuck Harry Reid!
He hasnt said a single thing this week, as we all watch children die in the streets of NOLA.

Fuck Him!
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-01-05 11:15 PM
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28. When a critical threshold of people have nothing to lose, it's revolution
time!

We are seeing the beginnings of a revolution folks, I'm afraid, especially if nothing improves substantially very quickly.

And I can not blame them.

A good percentage of the country devistated - his "base" - and only "faith based" relief in the pipes.
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 12:13 AM
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31. This may well spark civil unrest.
Once it hits them, once they start talking about how Katrina killed off everything they had (including, in many cases, family members), and then they were left holding the bag because of some law some politician passed.....

This is the really, reallyreallyreally bad effect that horrible law will have that we ALL were concerned about. sometimes bad things just happen, and you lose everything you have. This law does not include understanding of that.

Left, holding the bag. With nothing else to lose.
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ngGale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 12:21 AM
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32. Arghhhhh.....
:grr:
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madmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 03:04 AM
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34. the new bankruptcy law will hurt americans all over the country including
hurricane victims. With twin spikes in housing and gas costs, there will be more insolvent americans facing a new hostile bankruptcy system come October 17th. Many will be unable to obtain a discharge and will be permanently locked out of the mainstream economy. Not to be totally gloomy, they will still be able to get 30% interest payday loans.
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Giant Robot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 03:43 AM
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36. It sadden me so much to find out that
Debbie Stabenow(D-MI) voted for that bill. As a fellow social worker, I had hoped she would see the impact on society and the devastation and despair this would cause. I just don't know what to think...
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