China Evacuates 790,000 as Typhoon Slams Into Coast

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China evacuates 790,000 as typhoon slams into coast
September 2, 2005

China evacuated more than 790,000 people as powerful Typhoon Talim slammed into its east coast yesterday after barrelling across Taiwan, where it left three dead and dozens injured.

Talim was forecast to be the strongest storm to hit China this season and the observatory in Fujian province issued its highest-level alert, warning of potential landslides, flooding and widespread damage.

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Nearly 500,000 people have been evacuated in Fujian and another 291,000 from neighbouring Zhejiang province, according to local officials, while some 30,000 fishing vessels returned to harbour.
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Most flights from Fujian's capital Fuzhou were cancelled yesterday and schools province-wide have been ordered to close until Monday, state television said.

http://smh.com.au/news/world/china-evacuates-790000-as-typhoon-slams-into-coast/2005/09/01/1125302689224.html

[VegasWolf]

1. China has plenty of money and is not bogged down in an unwinnable war.nt

[RPM]

43. Maybe we can outsource evacuations to them too

they seem to be better than us at moving 100s of thousands of people...

[NorCalDem]

45. It's easy to move that many people

when you have a god-damned PLAN!

[CountAllVotes]

2. OMG!

Please GOD stop this! Stop this! Stop this! :cry: I cannot take much more of this awful tragedy, one right after the next!

:kick:

[sakabatou]

5. Don't worry

It will be over, someday, I hope.

:scared:

[aquart]

3. Wow. Maybe George could ask them how they did it.

Only THREE DEAD????

China is now a first world nation. It can take care of its own. We, however, can't.

[AspenRose]

20. We can't? Or we choose not to?

Maybe a little of both...take care of some, but not others....

:shrug:

[tk2kewl]

4. Gee, how did they move all of those people?

I guess all those Chinese must have had their own cars and a second home in the mountains to go to.

[KamaAina]

6. So that's where all our buses went.

:sarcasm:

[mcscajun]

7. These are the same people who offered Us help...

...and were turned down.

They KNOW how to evacuate people and they have a lot of experience with flooding.

[Prodemsouth]

8. If the Government tells you to leave in China - you go, you don't

argue or you are in a bunch of trouble. My sister in law is from China-that is what she said. The Government says how people will be moved and thats how they do it. No getting out and going out in your car. Comparison between this and Katrina will not fly. Sister in law laughed at comparisons between Katrina and Talim

[havocmom]

9. Yes, we can compare the two. China sent the means for people to get out

In the US, they didn't offer much in the way of transportation.

Edited to add: Now watch this cake eating...

[Benhurst]

12. Life is cheap in BushAmerica. NT

[VegasWolf]

10. If our government tells you it's mandatory, you go! If they

say please go then you have an option.

[One_Life_To_Give]

27. Cultural Difference

Even in a Mandatory evacuation. People in the US will tell government officials to pound sand. Or stand and argue that it really doesn't apply to "them".

Watch a fire alarm in a building some time. Gradeschool kids will promptly exit. But the adults will keep on doing what they were doing. Afterall the fire alarm didn't specifically say that "they" had to leave.

[VegasWolf]

39. An argument for the incredible stupidity of the average American! nt

[Chicago Democrat]

11. THIS IS AMAZING!

China shows up the US, AGAIN!

[fob]

13. bush* is in the middle of outsourcing "democracy" to Iraq but he*

apparently already completed outsourcing common sense to China.

[Karenina]

14. 790,000

...

[Prisoner_Number_Six]

15. Now THAT'S how it's done, folks!

American politicians, take note.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

16. And Cuba has evacuated close a million people in the past....

...and the NeoCons had problems with evacuating 150,000+/- from New Orleans?

The failure to evacuate those people from New Orleans was either severely negligent, or criminally deliberate. At this point in time, I'm leaning heavily toward criminally deliberate.

[shadowknows69]

17. NO WAY

our world is coming apart at the seams

[Sean Reynolds]

18. So freaking China can evacuate 800,000.....

But we can't evacuate 200,000? Even though we're the RICHEST NATION IN THE WORLD?!!

FUCK!

[demo dutch]

19. Well then you know that NOLA could be deliberate!

[arwalden]

22. What's Deliberate? And Why Would It Be Deliberate?

Are you saying that the slow rescue and non-existent relief efforts are INTENTIONAL?

[demo dutch]

26. Who the hell knows, govt is saying that help is arriving and reporters

are on the ground are reporting otherwise. IT seems that NOLA just wasn't on the priority list. They certainly knew the scenario. It has been discussed for years. Bush even stoped the funding on how to evacuate NOLA and fired the Fema guy that was in charge. Last year there was a close call with Ivan but yet no steps were taken to work with local authorities. Everyone knew hurricane season would be worse. I refuse to believe that this govtm is too ignorant to anticipate what was going to happen in NOLA. How do you explain the US help during the tsunami, drops were made within 2 days!!!

[arwalden]

35. I Think The Word Everyone Is Looking For Is "INCOMPETENCE"...

... as despicable as this administration is... as much as I loathe Bush and everything about him... as much as I want to see him fall and fall hard, I think that this is all a failure of planning, a failure of leadership, a failure to prioritize, a failure to heed the warnings. Incompetence.

I certainly understand how easy it can be for people to get all worked up into a hyperbolic frenzy whenever they have to face the photos and the reality of what's happening in New Orleans. I understand the frustration and anger and sadness that everyone feels when they realize how helpless they are to do anything.

But, it makes us look awfully silly, as a group, as a web site, as Democrats, to be running around suggesting that the everything that's NOT happening as is ought to happen is being done "on purpose".

[wwcsmd]

37. Absolutely deliberate - I'm convinced

Profiteering? Social/Economic Manipulation? Genocide?

The day they announced a "manditory" evacuation of NO, but downplayed the fact that there was no assistance for those who couldn't, I had a bad feeling... the way *everything* has played out, no doubt.

[Tippy]

41. Absolutely, positively... deliberate

The only thing that has not bee corygraphed is the storm it's self....Did you see those military trucks loaded with food and water arriving at the Convention Center? NO shots rang out...Bush is going to NO this afternoon do you think they would let him if there was a chance of a sniper taking a shot... Bush's poll numbers will be just as high as they were after 9/11...

[demo dutch]

21. Mail this to every media outlet you know!

[Tyrone Slothrop]

23. Not to rain on everyone's parade (no pun intended)

But this storm wasn't even close to Katrina, strength-wise.

Katrina had winds in the 130-140 mph ballpark, Talim's strongest wind-speed was approx. 90 mph (144 kmph, per article). Trying to compare the two is rather irrelevant.

Also, the article points out that, as many people as were evacuated, there were still a large number left behind partying in karaoke bars, etc.

The low death toll was not due to a complete exodus of people, it just wasn't that big of a storm.

[demo dutch]

24. It doesn't matter, people were evacuated the govmt responded

[Tyrone Slothrop]

25. I believe I heard the mayor of NO saying that 80% of the pop.

was evacuated in NO before the storm.

Is this not accurate?

[demo dutch]

28. There are a half a million that live in NO. There are approx 100,000

that stayed behind, so the mayor sounds accurate.

[coffeenap]

31. The people who left did it on their own--the ones who had enough

resources. The people left are exactly the ones who needed us to get them out.

[Igel]

32. It is accurate.

The Army Corps of Engineers is also saying the levees that failed had been "completed" to spec. But the specs were insufficient, as they had been for many a year. There were proposals to increase the specs, but these date to the late '90s, and nobody acted on them then or afterwards: they were still bringing the levees back up to the older specs.

And 2/3 or so of the Louisiana NG were still in-state.

[One_Life_To_Give]

33. Still leaves over 50 thousand behind

If 20% of NOLA's residents were left we still wouldhave close to 100 thousand to evacuate. Which became a necessity when the Levee broke on Tuesday.

These people need to be sent somewhere. First to a temproary location where they can get food and water. Then to someplace we can house them for the 1-2 months it will take to get NOLA fit for them to come back.

[Igel]

29. And if they hadn't, the local leaders would have been removed.

I think Nagin and the Louisiana governor erred by not evacuating sooner and mobilizing the NG Sunday morning, at the latest.

* and the controlling party should remove them. That would clear up some of the problem next time.

It's the Chinese way.

Sound good to you?

[demo dutch]

34. Proper plans may not have been in place. Funding was cut for FEMA study on

how to deal with the evacuation and the FEMA guy got fired by GW

[Tyrone Slothrop]

30. Here we are

According to the mayor, approximately 1 million of the 1.3 million in the greater N.O. population were evacuated before the storm hit.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WEATHER/08/28/hurricane.katrina/

[demo dutch]

36. I heared in NO proper the population is approx 500,000 and 80%

evacuated, so that leaves 100,000 behind.

[LeftyElvis]

38. The difference

is that in China, you would be shot if you didn't go along.

[VegasWolf]

40. The difference is

that Bush was waiting for the Prayers to kick in.

[RPM]

42. see - you can mass-evacuate if you care to.

guess ** didnt care for the folks in NOLA

[RedRocco]

44. this space for rent

does anyone find it ominous that there seems to be a no one in, no one out policy at most of the larger shelters?

[anotherdrew]

46. yes, yes I do.