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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:49 AM
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Venezuela Preparing to Repel U.S. Invasion if Necessary, Chavez Says
http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGBWQKZ06DE.html

CARACAS, Venezuela (AP) - Venezuela has uncovered plans for a U.S.-led invasion and is preparing to defend the country against invading forces, President Hugo Chavez said in a report carried by the state-run news agency.

The Bolivarian News Agency reported late Friday that Chavez made the comments during an interview with CNN. It was unclear when the interview was to be aired.

"If it occurs to the United States to invade our country - Fidel Castro said it and I agree - a war will start here to last 100 years," Chavez was quoted as saying. "We are preparing to repel an invasion."

Chavez has made similar claims in the past, and U.S. officials have repeatedly denied them as ridiculous. Venezuela is the world's fifth largest oil exporter and a major supplier of fuel to the United States.

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mhr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:56 AM
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1. Why Should Anyone Believe A "US Official" Ever Again
I have lost total faith in the "Government".

We the people will have to take the country by force, if necessary.

We know elections are fixed, so that is not the method.

We know that the military and police are with the elite.

We know that the rich white fundies are sham christians, so faith is of no help.

We know that the corporations are beyond the law and above the fray.

The only remedy left is to "storm the capitol".

See you at the Guillotine.

I wonder who's head will be first?
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murray hill farm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 11:00 AM
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2. When it comes right down to it...
Any country with oil will be invaded...and u can be sure that Venezuela will be first on that list...so close..so convenient..Chavez know this..and so does the rest of the world.
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saskatoon Donating Member (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 05:59 PM
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17. Chavez
So I say, Viva Chavez!
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 11:02 AM
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3. Forget it, our troops are already in the wrong Gulf
We're the country that needs rescue and liberation.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 11:42 AM
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4. If gas keeps going up parents will demand that their kids be drafted
Won't be no shortage of troops unless their kids rebel. But they like driving too.

Don
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:11 PM
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5. Tell Chavez To Chill
The US couldn't invade a refrigerator, let alone another country, neither right now, nor for the forseeable future.
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:13 PM
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6. Exactly, Bush couldn't win Grenada at this point! nt
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 07:54 PM
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29. LOL!!!!....Ain't that the truth!!!
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Karla Marx Donating Member (85 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 06:09 PM
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20. Heh! Good one. n/t
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 07:09 PM
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25. I have no idea what's going on..
but it seems Chavez is pre-empting the strike just for good measure.

Poor bushwa can't even "invade a refrigerator" now! }(
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:14 PM
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7. Katrina has demonstrated to the world that the US is just a paper
tiger.
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 05:41 PM
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14. Do not pay any attention to the guy behind the curtain.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:15 PM
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8. This is prophylaxis.
It is no accident that Hugo keeps bringing the subject up.
Propaganda is a weapon open for the use of all.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:23 PM
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9. That is a very fine coda by AP!
"Chavez has made similar claims in the past, and U.S. officials have repeatedly denied them as ridiculous. ***Venezuela is the world's fifth largest oil exporter and a major supplier of fuel to the United States.***"

!!!
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 01:00 PM
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11. U.S. officials have repeatedly denied as ridiculous ...
what they have already attempted. Remember that coup attempt against Chavez?
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Say_What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 07:59 PM
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30. To understand what's happening in Venezuela one need only read
the history of Chile and Salvador Allende. It's a cookie cutter approach that hasn't changed since the US started overthrowing governments in the early 1950s.

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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 08:38 PM
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35. Too bad they can't deny invading Iraq as ridiculous
"Invade Iraq - that's crazy. Only a madman would even contemplate it."
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:58 PM
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10. Right now, I'm not sure that the U.S. could repel an invasion ...
from Venezuela.

And even if we could, would we WANT to?
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 01:35 PM
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12. I say bring them on. I am ready to surrender to Venezuela.
Let's get the Guvmint working for the people like it should be.
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saskatoon Donating Member (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 06:02 PM
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18. Venezuela
Right On Brother.
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Lindsay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 05:52 PM
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15. You beat me to that, damntexdem!
Invite him on in!

(Just kidding, Agent Mike! Honest!
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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 03:33 PM
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13. Chavez Supporters Want Robertson Prosecuted for Assassination Call
More than 100 supporters of Venezuelan leader Hugo Chavez marched through Caracas on Saturday to demand justice against American religious broadcaster Pat Robertson for recently suggesting their president should be killed.

The protesters said they were asking Venezuelan prosecutors to get involved. Marchers held signs with images of Robertson, including one calling him an "enemy of Venezuela."

The march came after Chavez reiterated in a recent interview with CNN that Venezuela is prepared to defend itself against a U.S. invasion if necessary.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 05:58 PM
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16. A good government wouldn't allow Robertson to get away with it.
What a slimey, worthless bunch of murderous scum.

I'm glad Venezuelans know what kind of psychopaths are plotting against them here, so they can be prepared.
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Karla Marx Donating Member (85 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 06:08 PM
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19. If Chimpy handles an invasion the way he's dealt w/Iraq and New Orleans...
...then Venezuela has nothing to worry about.
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 06:39 PM
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21. Chavez has learned from Cuba's example
of how to outwit the US while pursuing changes they violently oppose.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 06:42 PM
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22. I think Chavez needs to go one step further...
I think he also needs to lay out the typical Bush-invasion plan and MAKE FUN OF IT UNTIL THE COWS COME HOME!

He should say, "If the United States thinks it can play funny games with intelligence and push a lie-based war on our country--they need to think again."

Call them out. Make fun of them. Reveal the corrupt US strategy before we even roll the dice.

I think Chavez is incredibly smart. He's all ready reaching out to the American people--which will make it more difficult for a war on VZ to be popular. It's a little difficult to declare war on a country that is helping U.S citizens pay their heating bills and providing them with cheap gas.

BEAUTIFUL!!

Chavez, now there's a leader. Bush, no there's a nimrod.
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 06:55 PM
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23. Cheney's busy with something
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Z_I_Peevey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 07:03 PM
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24. Good point. n/t
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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:36 PM
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42. yea i was hoping he had died painfully but alas no
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TheCentepedeShoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 07:12 PM
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26. Just thinking
(and maybe too much vino talking) but, Chavez seems to be diving into the arms of China. Now, what if China and the BFEE are in cahoots?
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 07:21 PM
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27. You assume there is honor among thieves.
China and BFEE are in cahoots; but that does not mean China will not be happy to buy Venezuela's hydrocarbons at advantageous prices.
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TheCentepedeShoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 07:49 PM
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28. Then is Chavez
dumb enough to think China will protect him from the BFEE? I don't think this Pat Robertson flapdoodle was some kind of accident. It was intended to get a reaction out of Chavez, one that they assumed he was too dumb to avoid. I don't know that much abot Chavez. He may be very capable at ruling Venezuela yet inexperienced on the world stage.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:07 PM
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39. I doubt it.
He has handled himself rather well for some time now,
and this is hardly the first sally from the Bushites.
He would be a fool to expect the Chinese to be anything
but self-interested and pragmatic, and he has given no
sign of being a fool.

I considered Robertsons verbal diarrhea to be a Bushite
act of desperation, and a stupid one.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 08:04 PM
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31. He's doing business with countries all over the map.
He has expanded the list of business partners far beyond the old standard right-wing Venezuelan leaders' dependence upon American right-wing Presidents.
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 08:36 PM
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34. To a degree they are - both are in favor...
of keeping everyone else servile, and both are content to keep the current system of trade between them more or less as it is.

But neither is particularly happy about the other being so powerful either. China does not particularly like the US messing around in Central Asia, nor does the US particularly like China doing the same thing in Latin America.

If Chávez plays both against the other - and he seems to be doing so pretty effectively at the moment - he can probably remain pretty independent of both.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 08:05 PM
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32. We're not even capable of invading New Orleans right now,
so I gotta call bullshit on this one.

And, come on...you're going to believe the bolivian News Agency?

Redstone
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Say_What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 08:29 PM
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33. No, we're gonna believe you....
:sarcasm:

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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 09:38 PM
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37. Thank you so much.
Redstone
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MileHiStealth Donating Member (277 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 09:25 PM
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36. Did Chavez switch back to the Euro ....
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ContraBass Black Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 09:39 PM
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38. He Needn't Worry
The U.S. is in no condition to invade, or even to repel an invasion.
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:28 PM
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40. Rah-rah.
Fundamentalists, whether Xian, Muslim, or Bolivarian, all need to believe themselves persecuted.

They all need an external enemy. It provides instant esprit de corps.

Ain't gonna happen.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 10:32 PM
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41. Here's a longer version of this AP story for anyone who's interested
in reading more. It's somewhat interesting, to be sure:
The U.S.-based Web site VHeadline.com, which focuses on Venezuela, published an article last year saying the Spanish military held "Operation Balboa" in May 2001, conducting a mock assault in which the United States and allied countries simulated an attack on western Venezuela from bases in Panama and Colombia.

Citing documents on the exercises, the Web site's article said U.S. and NATO officials provided confidential and secret information about Venezuela for the simulation conducted by 26 lieutenant colonels and other officials from the Spanish air force and other countries.

The state news agency's report did not make clear whether Chavez was referring to those particular exercises in 2001 or others with the same name. Chavez had been sharply critical of the former Spanish government of then-Prime Minister Jose Maria Aznar, but has good relations with the current Spanish government.

Spain's Defense Minister said Saturday it didn't immediately have a response to Chavez's comments.

U.S. officials in the past have said such training is meant to prepare troops for general scenarios but not for a specify military action.

The state news agency, commonly known as ABN for its initials in Spanish, said according to Chavez the invasion plan has included a wave of bombings over Caracas and the cities of Maracay and Valencia.
(snip/...)
http://www.billingsgazette.com/index.php?id=1&display=rednews/2005/09/03/build/world/67-venezuela.inc

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If there's any way our greedy, slimey PNACer murderous scum think they can pull it off, they WILL invade Venezuela and try to destroy ALL opposition. Venezuela has rebuffed all the steps they took with Chile before they won on September 11, 1973.

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MadeinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 06:43 AM
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43. The USA will fall in a heartbeat and collapse.
They couldn't even put off a home-staged rebellion with their level of incompetence. :wow:

The worst they could do is drop nukes, and then the have mores would be dead. End of cluster.
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