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ECH1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 11:13 AM
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Zarqawi: US deserved Katrina
Dubai - The group headed by Iraq's most wanted man Abu Musab al-Zarqawi hailed in an Internet statement published Sunday what it said was the "start of the collapse" of the United States after the devastation caused by Hurricane Katrina.

"Congratulations to the Islamic nation, to our sheikh Osama abu Abdullah (Osama bin Laden)? and to sheikh Ayman Zawahiri (bin Laden's deputy) for the destruction of America, which is at the forefront of evil. It is the start of its collapse."

The statement, whose authenticity could not be confirmed, was referring to the hurricane that has devastated New Orleans and left thousands feared dead.

http://www.news24.com/News24/World/Hurricane_Katrina/0,,2-10-1942_1764861,00.html
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 11:14 AM
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1. Screw him
Screw Bush too, but screw him.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 11:14 AM
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2. No one's ever denied the guy's an asshole.
At least, not that I remember.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 11:27 AM
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15. Nobody had ever shown that the guy is alive either.
How many times they have claimed he was killed by now?
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 11:15 AM
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3. Well, he's not saying anything different than
Some of the Christian websites that I have been reading. Even some people I know, who are self-righteous beyond words, have said similar things. Their motives for saying it are different, but the message is the same.
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durablend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 11:17 AM
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6. How do we know it's not more "Rove"?
Inflammatory statement intended to get America back on message--"TERRA-ISTS ARE OUT TO GET YOU...NEED TO FIGHT THEM OVER THERE SO WE DON'T FIGHT THEM HERE"
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 11:23 AM
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12. It probably is Rove
But I'm pointing out that there are rightwing Christians, in our own country, who feel that New Orleans was a den of sin and degradation and have pretty much said what a terrorist is being reported to have said. That is pretty sad.
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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 02:34 PM
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35. I pray I don't hear Sodom and Gomorrah
I haven't heard it yet, but with the Christians today it's only a matter of time.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 11:25 AM
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14. Katrina was a terrorist

and Bush and his Home Land InSecurity could not save us from Katrina Bin Hurricane.
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 12:25 PM
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30. lol..

if we explained it that way to the freepers, they'd still support him!
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blossomstar Donating Member (772 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 11:16 AM
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4. They don't want the war to stop!
We've been falling right into these pricks hands long enough! They are egging on our dumb pres all along....
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 11:17 AM
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5. No surprise coming from Zargawi -
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 07:01 PM
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47. .......or perhaps the Department of Defense.
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expatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 11:17 AM
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7. These fucks really need to take a sociology course
and then a bullet to the stomach.
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 11:18 AM
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8. Religious nut like Falwell and Roberstson
Their ilk deserve each other. They should have a Prayer-Off in some far-away place to see whose god is stronger.
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H5N1 Donating Member (777 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 11:18 AM
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9. This is propaganda bullshit
'al-Zarqawi' is your first clue
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durablend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 11:20 AM
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10. See #6 above
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 11:23 AM
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13. It's a wonder some people won't catch onto it!
Edited on Sun Sep-04-05 11:28 AM by Judi Lynn
I thought he was still dead, as we were told by the administration nearer the beginning of Bush's war on the Iraqi people.

On edit:

Once again, as per usual, taken from the article:
The statement, whose authenticity could not be confirmed, was referring to the hurricane that has devastated New Orleans and left thousands feared dead.
(snip)
That's the way they almost ALL are judged after they are examined. Somehow it's never really possible to say for sure the tapes aren't simply bogus blobs of propaganda which can't be scrutinized without revealing they are complete fabrications, cranked out every time the administration needs a little boost, a little legitimization. It seems to work on the slow people, unfortunately.
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Roy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 05:54 PM
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40. No, they will never catch on...
Wonder who took the dictation???

He should be running short on #3 men and computers since one is found with every #3.
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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 11:40 AM
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24. Yup-Let's change it from US Against Bush to US against the terrorist
It's baloney
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 11:20 AM
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11. US didn't deserve Bush either, and he is the cause of 9/11, Iraq, and now
Katrina aftermath.
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laststeamtrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 11:27 AM
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16. Iraq's al Qaeda says Katrina is "wrath of God"(Reuters)
Iraq's al Qaeda says Katrina is "wrath of God"-Web
Sun Sep 4, 2005 11:21 AM ET

DUBAI (Reuters) - The al Qaeda group in Iraq on Sunday hailed the hurricane deaths in "oppressor" America as the "wrath of God," according to an Internet statement.

"God attacked America and the prayers of the oppressed were answered," said the statement, which was posted on an Islamic Web site often used by the insurgent group fighting the U.S.-backed Iraqi government.

The statement's authenticity could not be verified.

"The wrath of the All-powerful fell upon the nation of oppressors. Their dead are in the thousands and their losses are in the billions," said the statement from the group led by Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, who has a $25 million U.S. bounty on this head.
<snip>
http://today.reuters.com/news/newsarticle.aspx?type=topNews&summit=&storyid=2005-09-04T155349Z_01_EIC455253_RTRIDST_0_NEWS-QAEDA-DC.XML
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Big Kahuna Donating Member (903 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 11:27 AM
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17. They should go bowling with Pat Robertson
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catzies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 06:33 PM
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44. Cue Camper van Beethoven "Take the Skinheads Bowling!"
Michael Moore used that song to great effect in Bowling for Columbine.
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MnFats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 11:27 AM
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18. you had to see that coming....
a reminder that fundie extremists of all stripes SUCK.
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jasmeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 11:27 AM
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19. This kind of statement is ridiculous no matter which religion
says it.
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JustSayNO 2 Sheeples Donating Member (142 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 11:27 AM
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20. And it won't be long....
before Bushco will be telling us and the media to stop speaking out on behalf of our nation's security. Get ready for flag waving, freepers telling us that anyone speaking out against Bushco's disaster are traitors and a load of other shit.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 11:27 AM
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21. "Wrath of Nature" is more like it.
But seriously, isn't this going to make paying for the boondoggle in Iraq even more difficult? When does the entire federal government implode into a black hole?
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laststeamtrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 11:36 AM
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23. Proposal for Reality TV Show: FUNDIE ISLAND...barbed-wire...
...cage chain-saw fights between fundamentalist clerics.

Fred Phelps vs. Mullah X. etc.

This is some high concept shit, baby.
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nyhuskyfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 12:09 PM
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27. And how many Muslims died in the Tsunami...
Or the massive earthquake in Iran a couple years ago.

God seems to be spreading his wrath around.
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Roy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 05:57 PM
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41. Iraq's al Qaeda says Katrina is "wrath of God"-Web
WEB????

Is this a direct link to God's web-site??
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 11:34 AM
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22. oh please, Zarqawi and comapny are the all purpose boogie man
i doubt he's even alive and i think it's a way for the gov. to distract even if it's only for a moment.
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Don Claybrook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 11:52 AM
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25. Emmanuel Goldstein has always hated us and said things like this
Because we've always been at war with Eastasia.

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Doremus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 12:00 PM
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26. OBL doesn't have to lift a finger.
Well, except when he sweeps up the rubble after we've self destructed.
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Zodiak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 12:09 PM
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28. A few things to say:
1. Is Zarquawi alive, dead, here, there, everywhere? C'mon...we get really, really tired of the "unconfirmed" Zarquawi sightings. Either confirm it or we have to chalk it up to an "Elvis" sighting in the desert. A lot of people have died because this boogey-man has been seen here or there by unconfirmed sources. We kill singular men with large bombs, preferably.

2. What were prominent religious fundamentalists in this country saying when Iran was hit by the big earthquake last year? Just asking.

3. Does this mean that Pat Robertson and his fundmantalist ilk are now giving aid and comfort to our enemies by agreeing that the destruction of NO was a good thing? Just asking.

4. Do you think that this is the smart tack to take for the insurgents in Iraq? It would be far better to show how America's evil government kills the helpless. I am not one of those people that think that because Islamist terrorists are crazy, they are stupid. It is wrong to underestimate one's enemy.

5. Now this wouldn't be fortunate timing in the face of two massive political failures (Sheehan followed by the gulf coast) that are soon to be dovetailed with a large-scale anti-war protest in the near future, would it?

6. Sholdn't this be vetted before it is released to the public? Isn't withholding the movements and actions of the enemy a matter of national security? It sure is when it comes to "chatter" before 9/11. And why publish it? Should we pulish the ravings of every lunatic that bothers to type some drivel on the internet? Should Ted Kacynski start a syndicated column?

7. Why hasn't BushCo caught this bastard? After all,they shot him twice, blew his leg off, killed him once, stole his laptop, and bombed every bed and breakfast he ever stayed in. Does the incompetence in the gulf coast have anything to do with the incompetence of not catching this one guy who may pop up at an Baghdad internet cafe near you?

Boy, this piece of shit can be easily framed to hurt BushCo as much as help it.
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 05:37 AM
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60. great post! (n/t)
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jmc777 Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 06:16 AM
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62. Re: point number 5
Funny how these "al-qaeda" boys pop up to divert the public's gaze from Bush whenever he's in a sticky situation. "Fortunate timing" indeed.:tinfoilhat:
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 12:22 PM
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29. Just like Phelps...
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 01:13 PM
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31. ...except Zarqawi made no reference to "fag fecal matter".
Phelps did. He really did. Perhaps Zarqawi should consider establishing the next al-Qaeda terror training camp in Topeka...
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Burma Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 01:35 PM
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32. Humbug
What MAY be collapsing is the collective fog that has clouded about half of the American people that believe this Administration is competent, commpassionate or (truly) conservative......
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 02:17 PM
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33. some far-right "Christians" have been saying the same thing...
...to a conspicuous lack of Freeper outrage, I'd like to point out.

United we stand? Like hell!
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Lindacooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 02:27 PM
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34. Well, it should be a comfort to fundies that they think just like Zarqawi.
Tell any right wing whacko fundie you know that they are on the same page as muslim fundamentalists and watch their heads explode!
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 02:41 PM
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36. The usual "authenticity could not be confirmed" stuff
I don't doubt religious fanatics would say this (I expect the same from fanatic Christians blaming gays eventually), but it could also be propaganda. "If you criticize the government's handling of the hurricane you are helping the terrorists", would be roughly the point of the propaganda.
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raysr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 03:05 PM
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37. Face it people
with what we've done to Iraq during the years of the sactions and what we're doing now why wouldn't he say that!?
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Roy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 05:51 PM
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38. Just remove the wite-out......
you will see KKKarl's fax ID number.

"The statement, whose authenticity could not be confirmed, was referring to the hurricane that has devastated New Orleans and left thousands feared dead."
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 05:53 PM
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39. FUCK YOU Zarqawi
x(
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Frederik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 06:09 PM
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42. Yawn
That guy at Langley who writes this bullshit is getting very predictable. It couldn't possibly be Pat Robertson could it?
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 06:17 PM
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43. That's the same thing Christian Radio said.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 06:35 PM
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45. Whoa! Ouija boards have gone online! eom
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Miss Chybil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 07:01 PM
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46. Fuck him. nt
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are_we_united_yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 07:23 PM
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48. We'll tear you a new asshole
when we finish with this administration
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despairing optimist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 09:25 PM
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49. Zarqawi is Pat Robertson with a tablecloth
Notice how they're never on the air at the same time. A sure giveaway.
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 09:35 PM
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50. The "start of the collapse" of the US was when the SCOTUS ruled for the
Edited on Sun Sep-04-05 09:35 PM by 54anickel
usurper. It's been 5 years. This is not the start, we are on the brink of collapse. Don't flatter yourself, Zarqawi, the shit started months before 9/11.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 10:01 PM
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51. What an evil man. Screw him. eom
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Andrushka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 10:17 PM
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52. LOOK! OVER THERE! OVER THERE!
:eyes:
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4MoreYearsOfHell Donating Member (943 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 10:21 PM
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53. One-legged dead men don't speak
this is nothing more that Rove's attempt to deflect and deny from the incompetence of this unholy administration...

Zarqawi is fiction...the current monster under the bed...

Wake the fuck up America...
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Malikshah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 10:25 PM
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54. oooohhhh bright shiny things-- look over here!! *jinglejingle*
It's a given Zarqawi--who doesn't appear, IIRC, to have been definitively seen by anyone....-- is still a jerk.

Boy oh boy, though Rove can sure trot out the boogeyman to divert folks attention.

Now let's all go to the corner and play with brightly colored bits of string...

In other words-- we'll deal w/ that boogeyman later-- we've got more than enough of those types in DC right now.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 10:32 PM
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55. I'm still waiting for Fred Phelps to say the same
and register www.godhatesneworleans.com
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MileHiStealth Donating Member (277 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 12:39 AM
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56. Someone already did .....
redirects to the Red Cross.... Luckily someone
on our side registered it ...
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pursuivant Donating Member (80 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 01:11 AM
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57. So God is on their side now?
Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell have some serious explaining to do.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 02:35 AM
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58. Pfft. Our nutjobs beat him to it.
We have plenty more at home just like him. Flaming *holes, every one of 'em.

Hekate

#Why won't the Chickenhawk cross the road?#
#Why won't the Chickenhawk be waitin' on the levee?#
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 04:34 AM
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59. This is all you need to know.
--The statement, whose authenticity could not be confirmed--

I call BS.

I would expect a similar communique should California be struck down by a large tremor.

* doesn't like us here in CA either.
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-05-05 05:54 AM
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61. Insert RW radical clerics from US. Is the message any different?
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