Police Shoot 8 on New Orleans Bridge

[Lori Price CLG]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050904/ap_on_re_us/katrina_shootings_hk1

NEW ORLEANS - Police shot eight people carrying guns (!?!) on a New Orleans bridge Sunday, killing five or six of them, a deputy chief said.

Deputy Police Chief W.J. Riley said the shootings took place on the Danziger Bridge, which connects Lake Pontchartrain and the Mississippi River.

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Lori Price

[hiley]

1. oh no

:cry:

[supernova]

2. Oh shit!

:wow: :wow: :wow:

:cry: :cry: :cry:

[YDogg]

3. It was only a matter of time, I'm afraid.

[autorank]

4. Damn, Lori you beat CNN...great work

...and my wife is totally impressed w/DU and your service. I'll get an extra 30 min of online time thanks to you (lol).

[Lori Price CLG]

51. Thanks, autorank! n/t

[bushisanidiot]

5. Their crime was they were carrying guns.. What's the NRA's response?

afterall, they think everyone should be armed..

[Old and In the Way]

9. NRA only supports white people having the right to bear arms,

and only the ones that vote Republican.

[raggedcompany]

11. perhaps they'll find themselves in agreement with the ACLU? Ha!

edit: here's a link to the story

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9208195/

[guruoo]

25. MSN: Police had been firing in air to turn refugees from bridge

http://moneycentral.msn.com/inc/news/providerredir.asp?feed=FT&Date=20050904&ID=5084629
'Both the Superdome and the Conference Center, where refugees were most concentrated, are situated close to the elevated highways that are the city's lifelines to the outside. Crowds even made their way up to the highways and started to cross the main bridge across the giant Mississippi but were turned back by police firing in the air.'

[onecent]

6. Just heard that 2 seconds ago on MSNBC. n/t

[cal04]

7. Not much at the link This is just terrible

Police shot eight people carrying guns on a New Orleans bridge Sunday, killing five or six of them, a deputy chief said.

Deputy Police Chief W.J. Riley said the shootings took place on the Danziger Bridge, which connects Lake Pontchartrain and the Mississippi River.

He said he had no other details
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9208195/

[JoFerret]

8. Insurgents.

.

[IndianaGreen]

10. Will we ever know the truth about this incident?

Were they one of the roving gangs of criminals that we have heard about, or citizens that took up arms for self-defense?

[Karmadillo]

12. At this point, do we really know all of them (or any of them) had arms? nt

nt

[Lori Price CLG]

13. My money would be on them NOT having arms. n/t

[raggedcompany]

15. Nope.

We don't know anything. Were they given a chance to disarm by the police? Did they fire on Police first? I'm not jumping to any conclusions over this one.

[NorthernSpy]

19. if a light denim-jacket-clad Brazilian electrician...

...can be morphed into Pakistani religious fanatic al Qaeda operative with a suicide bomb under his big, heavy parka, then Lord only knows what we're bound to be told about the people on the bridge.

Remember, the first press reports about the electrician from Brazil made him out to be a nervous Pakistani in a heavy coat who had run from police -- who had had no choice but to shoot him dead. Eye witnesses were interviewed, and they confirmed all that.

Too bad for the police that the security cameras were rolling:

• The man they shot was from Brazil, not Pakistan or the Mideast.
  
  
• He was not a Moslem extremist -- or a Moslem of any kind.
  
  
• He was not wearing a "heavy parka". He was wearing a light denim jacket.
  
  
• He did not run from police.
  
  
• His demeanor was calm and unsuspicious.

Both the police -- and their supposed eyewitness, whose remarks were duly printed up in the press -- were full of shit.


So yeah, we should follow the bridge shooting incident. It'll be interesting to see where it goes.

[guruoo]

20. Wild guess...

they were shot simply for refusing to
turn over their weapons to police.
If this is so, we're bound to see more
incidents like it in the near future.

[Old and In the Way]

14. How do you loot on a bridge?

My cynicism meter is pegged...did they need an "event" to reinforce a meme that these people are dangerous?

[Lori Price CLG]

LOL!!! Well, Halliburton will - when/if they arrive to 'repair' it. n/t

[Trevelyan]

18. I thought everyone had been evacuated. Someone posted about the power

grab for Louisiana by Bush in the Washington Post article, why would they need to declare Martial Law and need all those ambulances and things if everyone is gone.

They kept the Red Cross out just like Fallujah so there would be no independent witnesses and are sending a message to the journalists that they can be shot just like the ones who have been targeted by Bush's elite SS in Iraq.

This is so horrible. When will Fitzgerald send in the Federal Marshalls or the Pentagon Flag Officers send in troops to remove Bush/Cheney forcibly from office.

How can we help? I think we can help by calling for Impeachment again and again to the media and Congress, they and we are in danger whether we do anything or not. Freedom's just another word for nothin left to lose.

Don't forget the March on Washington Sept. 24 ANSWER.com has more information and flyers to download.

[NorthernSpy]

21. We had to stop them! They were STEALING the bridge!

Trying to walk out with it under their T-shirts!

Good thing we stopped them.

[Lori Price CLG]

24. LOLOLOL!!! n/t

[Karmakaze]

16. Earlier on I was montioring the scanners..

and there was a report of up to 20 people being held hostage by NOPD officers. I sure as hell hope this isnt connected in any way with that report.

[DianeG5385]

17. If it's NOLA Police there WILL BE HELL TO PAY!!!!

There's something seriously wrong with this story. Since when do we arbitrarily shoot armed people without figuring out who they are beforehand!!! NRA, where are you????

[liberaliraqvet26]

22. Lets not jump to conclusions.....

we don't know the details.

[raggedcompany]

26. Clearly, caution should be the word.

Who says they didn't fire on the cops first?

[Trevelyan]

23. Bush Continues His War to Deny Lifesaving Actions to the citizens in

New Orleans:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050904/ap_on_he_me/katrina_health

Doctors Hamstrung in Relief Efforts
By MARILYNN MARCHIONE, AP Medical Writer
30 minutes ago

BATON ROUGE, La. - Volunteer physicians are pouring in to care for the sick, but red tape is keeping hundreds of others from caring for Hurricane Katrina survivors while health problems escalate.

Among the doctors stymied from helping out are 100 surgeons and paramedics in a state-of-the-art mobile hospital marooned in rural Mississippi.

"The bell was rung, the e-mails were sent off. ...We all got off work and deployed," said one of the frustrated surgeons, Dr. Preston "Chip" Rich of the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.

"We have tried so hard to do the right thing. It took us 30 hours to get here," he said.

That government officials can't straighten out the mess and get them assigned to a relief effort now that they're just a few miles away "is just mind-boggling," he said.

While the doctors wait, the first predictable signs of disease from contaminated water began to emerge on Saturday: A Mississippi shelter was closed after 20 residents got sick with dysentery, probably from drinking contaminated water.

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[aikoaiko]

27. I too reserve judgment until details are known.

note to self: keep my gun concealed.

[unrepuke]

28. Oh Oh! CCW!

:scared:




I guess the Minutemen that everybody was so sure were going to open up on the Mexicans have done a FAR better job than the Bushies...

I know some relief people have gone there from Calif - firemen, etc.
Maybe these cops were L.A.P.D.?

that would answer a lot.

[psychopomp]

29. This is utter horseshit

"Withhold judgement"?? Fuck that, this is an internet message board and I will judge away... Here is my judgement: guilty. USA, you are guilty. Especially racist people in the United States, you are guilty.

[Scurrilous]

30. This will make the Freepers happy...

...really, really happy. Overjoyed even.

[Lerkfish]

31. yup. as I predicted.

damn them to hell!

[footinmouth]

32. Just reported on Fox news ...

Unconfirmed ... The Army Corp of Engineers is reporting that 8 of their people were shot on a bridge.

They are still trying to confirm this story.

[chelsea0011]

36. Nightly News on ABC are reporting the same

mistaken identity!

[Cooley Hurd]

37. CNN just broke with this, as well!!!!

FUCK!:wow:

[LizW]

41. CNN just said that, too

Good god in heaven. This is FUBAR.

[RightSightBrightLite]

33. Breaking from local fox affiliate......

army corps of engineers report their contractors shot by police on bridge, more coming they said @ 6:03 e.s.t.

[xmas74]

34. I got that update from yahoo just now.

[jsamuel]

35. THEY WERE CONTRACTORS!!!! GEEZUS

[cbear70]

39. Anderson Cooper just said that

I am so glad he is in NO... the truth will come out.

[Lori Price CLG]

53. I guess they weren't working for Halliburton. n/t

[IndianaGreen]

38. Shooting people working for COE?

Are these people nuts?

Who is in charge down there?

[babylonsister]

40. "Friendly" fire? This sucks big time. ACOEs go to help

and get killed?

[Tesibria]

42. Link to story re: contractors

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2005/09/04/D8CDN1TG1.html

[leftchick]

43. Army Corp Of Engineer Employees

they wer shot on their way to work. On CNN. :(

[wicket]

56. oh no :(

This is so terrible :(

[Miss Chybil]

44. Now CNN says they were from the Army Corps of Engineers.

The police officers that have been on duty in that city since the beginning of the storm with no food, water, facilities, sleep, etc., need to be relieved. Obviously, they are beyond their capacity to function properly. What a shame. What a shame. Can it get any worse?

[Karenina]

46. THIS is what happens

when a white supremacist regime declares war on anyone it deems "non-white."

"*Mistakes" can happen. Collateral damage and all that rot.

[footinmouth]

45. More info ...

Now Fox is reporting that there were Contractors on the bridge and bad guys on the bridge. The bad guys were shooting at the Contractors and the police shot the bad guys. None of the Contractors were killed.

[54anickel]

47. Wow, that's a stretch from the orginal reports, ain't it? n/t

[RightSightBrightLite]

48. appropriate that footinmouth should report this retraction

real-time misinfo test for the 'net

this is no way to deal with 'little' America

[Zenlitened]

49. Just heard that on CNN, too, citing wire sources.

But don't worry... the false story will live on forever now. :grr:

[Lori Price CLG]

50. Spokesman: Engineers Shot By New Orleans Police

http://www.nbc30.com/news/4887230/detail.html

Spokesman: Engineers Shot By New Orleans Police

NEW ORLEANS -- Police shot eight people carrying guns on a New Orleans bridge Sunday, killing five or six, a deputy chief said.

A spokesman for the Army Corps of Engineers said the victims were contractors on their way to repair a canal.

The contractors were walking across a bridge on their way to launch barges into Lake Pontchartrain to fix the 17th Street Canal, said John Hall, a spokesman for the Corps.

Earlier Sunday, New Orleans Deputy Police Chief W.J. Riley said police shot at eight people ("carrying guns," LOL!), killing five or six. The shootings took place on the Danziger Bridge, which spans a canal connecting Lake Pontchartrain and the Mississippi River.

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Lori Price

[feminazi]

52. CNN reporting now that NOPD shot at armed gunmen who

were shooting at the COE guys. the COE guys are ok.

[magellan]

54. AP: story has reverted back to original, WWL NOLA reporting

They're trying to get some verification from ACoE or NOPD of what happened since the story is so fluid and there's no way to know what actually occurred yet.

[NorthernSpy]

55. NOW does everyone understand the need for Rumor Patrol?

New Orleans police shoot several armed people on a bridge!

New Orleans police shoot several contractors on a bridge!

New Orleans police shoot several gunmen who were shooting at several contractors on a bridge!

New Orleans police shoot a lone gunman who was shooting at several contractors on a bridge!

Tune in five minutes from now to hear a totally different story!


:eyes:

[Lori Price CLG]

58. NO, I was not posting 'rumors.' Not my fault if Bush's media whores can't

get their lies straight...

Lori Price

[IndianaGreen]

57. Only one shot (as of 6:39 pm)

As police sought to restore order, they encountered at least one person with a gun who fired on contractors with the Army Corps of Engineers, the Corps reported. The police fatally shot the gunman, the Corps said.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9156612/

[struggle4progress]

59. ... None of the contractors was killed ... No other details, including ..

.. whether any of the gunmen were killed, were immediately available ... http://www.wral.com/news/4935160/detail.html

[mccoyn]

60. This is easy to figure out.

NOPD report they have shot at some people on a bridge.
ACoE report they were shot at on the same bridge.

The media runs a story about the NOPD shooting at the ACoE.

The truth (apparently) is that the NOPD shot at some people who were shooting at the ACoE.

The only people who were incorrect was the media for making a false assumption. I really don't see anything inconsistent other than the media's reporting. No one else has changed their story, just clarified it to fix the media error.

[CrazyForKucinich]

61. When did carrying guns become a crime?

Looks at 2nd amendment.

[Moderator]

62. Incorrect story

If anyone would like to post the updated story, please feel free to do so. Thanks