AP: 5 Contractors NOT Killed on New Orleans Bridge (Army Corp Engineers)

[RamboLiberal]

Breaking headline has changed

AP: Army Corps of Engineers says its contractors were not killed by police, but gunmen who fired at them were killed. More soon.

http://www.cnn.com/

Blame CNN and AP for getting it wrong - these were original headlines and story. Again the contractors were NOT killed but the gunmen.

On their Breaking News Headline Web:

AP: Army Corps of Engineers says police killed some of its workers as they crossed a bridge on the way to repair a canal. More soon

http://www.cnn.com/

On edit adding AP Link and Story:

Police shot eight people carrying guns on a New Orleans bridge Sunday, killing five or six, a deputy chief said. A spokesman for the Army Corps of Engineers said the victims were contractors on their way to repair a canal.

The contractors were walking across a bridge on their way to launch barges into Lake Pontchartrain to fix the 17th Street Canal, said John Hall, a spokesman for the Corps.

Earlier Sunday, New Orleans Deputy Police Chief W.J. Riley said police shot at eight people, killing five or six.

The shootings took place on the Danziger Bridge, which spans a canal connecting Lake Pontchartrain and the Mississippi River.

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2005/09/04/D8CDN1TG1.html

[NashVegas]

1. Oh God oh Fuck

not good.

[Waya]

2. Well, there is an 'Oh Shit - experience' for ya.....damn

[Tesibria]

3. AP Link:

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2005/09/04/D8CDN1TG1.html

[RamboLiberal]

27. Thanks - I added your link on edit

eom

[jpak]

4. WTF!!!

Can things get any worse???

No communication between ACoE and NOPD????

Mind boggling.

[Horse with no Name]

5. Well duh

What do you think is going to happen when you give "shoot to kill" orders to a bunch of people who are stressed to the gills and just went through a horrible trauma?

[RamboLiberal]

20. And add lack of sleep - that can really screw up a person

This has to be the mother of all FUBARS! Right now I think they need to stand down the New Orleans Police and have more refreshed troops take over. Or at least pair the police with troops.

How in the hell did this happen in broad daylight! One could almost understand at night - but in daylight! These guys are tired, stressed and apparently trigger-happy!

[IndianaGreen]

6. These things happen when there are no clear rules of engagement

Who is in command down there? One would thing that Homeland Security would be in command of the entire situation.

Many people died on 9/11 because of failure to communicate to the people inside the North Tower that it was leaning and that they needed to evacuate. Looks like nothing has changed!

[KittyWampus]

11. Many people died on 9/11 because of failure to communicate

I started a thread trying to get DU'ers to grasp this very important point.

It's been FOUR YEARS.

The ONE thing that was obvious and essential was the need to fix the damn communications.

[I_Make_Mistakes]

13. Well, got this from Swamp Rat

He's responding to my don't forget me, I have offered to help his family if they need it
SR's reply
won't... so many people are PMing me and I am struggling to put things in order here... food, place to stay, bills... I am OK right now. Please help the folks still in Orleans Parish.. My brother just heard JP Sheriff Harry Lee say that his deputies caught FEMA agents trying to cut the phone lines in Jefferson Parish.

Why would they do that?

Why?

[LiberalFighter]

39. Were they really FEMA agents or posing as them?

[Mistress Quickly]

14. I thought the governor kept control

Does that matter with Homeland Security?

What a cluster ****

[Cobalt Violet]

7. I wonder if they were black. n/t

[ret5hd]

8. is this seperate from the 6 or 8 shot that were supposedly armed?

[Selatius]

9. I guess those "armed people" were Army Corps of Engineer workers

What the fuck is going on down there! Is there absolutely NO coordination in what's left of that ruined city?

[habitual]

10. WHAT THE HELL

Can it continue to get worse?

[ananda]

17. racist paranoia

Bushco and the troops are sodden with fear of Black people.

And the results are what we are all seeing right now.

Sue

[SlavesandBulldozers]

28. we don't know the color of anybody in this incident

nt

[HereSince1628]

19. I am afraid the answer is yes. Epidemics could emerge anytime

all that filthy flood water, the failed sanitation in the shelters combined with overcrowding.

I am afraid it really could get worse.

[Demeter]

24. Sometimes I Think That Worse Is Better

Things have to get worse, so that the sheep will revolt at last. "Experience is a dear teacher, but some will learn no other way."

You cannot acquire experience by making experiments. You cannot create experience. You must undergo it.
Albert Camus (1913 - 1960)

Experience is not what happens to a man; it is what a man does with what happens to him.
Aldous Huxley (1894 - 1963), "Texts and Pretexts", 1932

Experience teaches only the teachable.
Aldous Huxley (1894 - 1963)

Good judgment comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgment.
Barry LePatner

Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so.
Douglas Adams (1952 - 2001), "Last Chance to See"

You gain strength, courage and confidence by every experience in which you really stop to look fear in the face. You are able to say to yourself, 'I have lived through this horror. I can take the next thing that comes along.' You must do the thing you think you cannot do.
Eleanor Roosevelt (1884 - 1962)

Experience is that marvelous thing that enables you to recognize a mistake when you make it again.
Franklin P. Jones

Experience teaches slowly and at the cost of mistakes.
James A. Froude (1818 - 1894)

Men are wise in proportion, not to their experience, but to their capacity for experience.
James Boswell (1740 - 1795), Life of Samuel Johnson, 1791

Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes.
Oscar Wilde (1854 - 1900), Lady Windermere's Fan, 1892, Act III

By far the best proof is experience.
Sir Francis Bacon (1561 - 1626)


Experience is a hard teacher because she gives the test first, the lesson afterwards.
Vernon Sanders Law

Quotations courtesy of http://www.quotationspage.com/subjects/experience/

[54anickel]

12. Same incident as this other thread with the armed men on a bridge?

Sound like it could be - I mean how many incidents of shooting people on a bridge could there be?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1753084

Edit to add - oops, guess it was. I didn't closely read the entire post the first time around. My apologies. This really is a cluster-fuck.

[expatriot]

15. "Contractors" with guns.... hmmm. that sounds familiar.

cops thought they were armed civilians... but no... they were mercenaries.

[chelsea0011]

16. So what could some engineers be doing to have the police

open fire? This is fucked.

[rocktivity]

18. STILL no coordination?

I thought there was something weird about this story. I thought the Superdome and the covention center area had been cleared of civilians--why would people be roaming around toting guns? Well, here's our answer. Guess New Orleans will have to change its name to New Baghdad.

:cry:
rocknation

[I_Make_Mistakes]

25. Story changed CBS Gun man was shooting at the Army Corp. of Eng.

The police shot the gunman. Army Corp of Engrs. are ok

[Karenina]

35. Many, likely.

;-)

[AZBlue]

21. Typical of Bush's "cowboy" mentality

Every time I think this situation can't get any worse, it does. This is the same "commander in chief" that said we don't need aid from abroad, we'll do it ourselves, we're just fine. Shoot to kill orders don't belong in a place like NO - I'd ask if he could fuck this up any more, but I'm afraid he could and I don't want to tempt fate!

[Catchawave]

22. On Fox now, no contractors killed, AP update n/t

[chelsea0011]

23. "Nevermind"......Emily Litella

[arwalden]

26. WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE!!!???

[sakabatou]

29. Shit

[0007]

30. This is indeed hard to comprehend.

[etherealtruth]

31. After a week no one is in control ...

... or coordinating the situation. I must echo the sentiments of most : this is america?

[Neverarepublican]

32. Unbelieveable!!!!!!!!!!!

WTF? Hey Bush you asshole what do you think about this? Oh that is right, you
don't know how to think. Fuck you George Bush

[Gregorian]

33. Trickle down recklessness.

I think it's safe to say that the careless Bushmonkey in the White House is the roll model that people look up to. This country had gone crazy with Tazers, guns, careless behavior.

If Wes Clark were running this ship, it would be tight. Instead we have anything goes.

Where do we go from here? I say this government should start reevaluating things very quickly. This president needs to go. But first we need civility in New Orleans. Someone who can lead needs to take charge.
Am I full of shit?

[DS1]

34. oops

:eyes:

[cal04]

36. Now they are saying they were NOT killed.

just shot at

[IndianaGreen]

44. We will now return you to our Renhquist special...

The old CNN would have been on top of this story.

[Cha]

45. Yeah, my friend just said

that cnn broke in and said there weren't any dead but the New Orleans Police killed a sniper that was shooting at them.

Much Better!

[IndianaGreen]

37. AP is now saying that NOPD fired on those that fired on COE

Retraction.

[feminazi]

38. CNN just said it wasn't the COE guys who were killed

the COE guys were fired on. police responded and shot the shooters yhat were targeting the COE guys.

[Dark]

40. Engineers NOT killed.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/09/04/katrina/main814703.shtml

Gunmen fired on eight Army Corps of Engineers Contractors. Police then fatally shot the gunmen who fired on the contractors. The contractors were not killed, the Army Corps said.

[AngryWhiteLiberal]

41. Now they are BACKTRACKING the story...no contractors shot

time to shape tinfoil to the baseball cap...

JB

[0007]

48. So the gunmen were on the bridge with the engineers,

the gunmen shoot at the engineers and miss and the police who just happen to be on the scene shot and killed the five or six gunmen who couldn't shoot straight.

What could be fishy with this story?

[rainbow4321]

42. There may be a bigger problem soon..residents refusing to leave

per the local scanner this afternoon Residents in one neighborhood were refusing to be rescued..they were yelling to the rescuers "Power to the people, we are NOT leaving". There were no more tranmissions about the confrontation.

Will these people get shot if they don't cooperate?? And will we ever hear about it?

[Tesibria]

43. CNN "clarifies" - Contractors NOT shot by police

see breaking news banner
http://www.cnn.com/

contractors shot at by gunmen
N.O. Police shot gunmen who shot at contractors
"gunmen" dead - NOT contractors

[Launch Pad]

47. Fox News says the same

The contracters were shot at by gunmen when police fired back at the gunmen. Gunmen were killed, contracters are ok.

[magellan]

46. AP has "killed" the 'contractors shot by NOPD' story, WWL reporting

Gunmen opened fire on ACoE on bridge, NOPD shot/killed gunmen.

[Moderator]

49. Locking

At this time, CNN banner reads:

"AP: Army Corps of Engineers says its contractors were not killed by
police, but gunmen who fired at them were killed. More soon."

http://www.cnn.com/