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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 01:46 PM
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Tal Afar Panicking Residents Flee US Fire
BAGHDAD, September 6, 2005 (IslamOnline.net & News Agencies) – A Fresh US and Iraqi offensive into the northern city of Tal Afar has sent 90 percent of its population into panicky flight, while the rest are sending impassioned SOS messages as they were trapped inside homes by imposed curfews.

“We went to the neighboring city of Mosul several days ago as the US offensive was preceded by power and phone outages, the signs of a looming large-scale operation,” Abu Nabil told IslamOnline.net Tuesday, September 6.

“I’m deeply concerned at the fate of my relatives and other locals after the US-backed Iraqi troops isolated the city and prevented remaining residents from leaving.”

His son Nabil, 24, added that US occupation troops made house-to-house searches and arrested dozens of locals.

The city, which is close to the Syrian borders, has been under fierce US bombing and fire since Sunday, September 4.

Before the bombing, US helicopters dropped leaflets demanding locals to leave the city for their lives, witnesses told Al-Quds press.

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http://www.islamonline.org/English/News/2005-09/06/article04.shtml


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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 01:58 PM
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1. Uh, when they told people to run for it, couldn't the insurgents run, too?
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 02:02 PM
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2. There you go again- stop it!
You KNOW logical debate is not allowed
when discussing the FUBAR actions done in our names
by the Pentagon.
BHN
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 02:05 PM
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3. Similar events occurred at al Qaim -- humanitarian disaster resulted...
...as tens of thousands fled into the desert.

SOP.
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bigluckyfeet Donating Member (559 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 02:53 PM
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4. Can You Imagine How the People of Iraq Feel
Can You Imagine How the People of Iraq Feel

They have been bombed for 3 1/2 years,they have been starved,beaten,jailed for no reason,no electricity,no water,no jobs,their homes destroyed.
We have seen how much the people of New Orleans have suffered in a week.
Can You Imagine How the People of Iraq Feel after 3 1/2 years of hell.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 03:32 PM
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5. and other than bomb civilians -- the pentagon wants
us to believe significant numbers of insurgents have remained behind to just take a bombing in the ass?

idiots.
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 05:48 PM
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Don't let them 'Fallujah' us, Iraqis asked
Edited on Tue Sep-06-05 03:51 PM by sabra

http://about.upi.com/products/perspectives/UPI-20050829-010709-5226R

Don't let them 'Fallujah' us, Iraqis asked

TALL'AFAR, Iraq, Sept. 6 (UPI) -- Long before last week's offensive by U.S. and Iraqi forces against insurgent holdouts in Tall 'Afar, the U.S. military knew it had a problem there and reached out to tribal leaders.

Just days before the offensive began, United Press International's Pam Hess visited the town -- and provides this unique account of the efforts by one U.S. military commander to win the complex struggle for hearts and minds.

...

But the military's secret weapon in Iraq is men like Hickey -- officers who take the lay of the land and figure out how to pursue their mission by means other than overwhelming force.

...

"To Fallujah" has now become a verb for Iraqis, Hickey explained later, synonymous with the violent leveling of a recalcitrant city.

...

Word from Baghdad again is that "a Fallujah" is coming.



Iraq has been royally "bushed"!
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 05:48 PM
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6. kick for the freedom that is marching in Iraq!
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 05:59 PM
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7. Hickey - the Quiet American
.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-05 07:33 PM
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8. Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why?
It just makes you want to scream. Go to that link--if you can take any more horror this week. It is mind-boggling, what is being done there in our name.

It forces you to start shutting down your analytical mind--in a desire to just rage at these war criminals running our government and our military, and robbing us blind to harm these innocent people.

But, while rage is good sometimes, we mustn't stop analysing. All this is taking place at or on the Syrian border, and one of the things we must anticipate is a manufactured "Gulf of Tonkin" type incident, that will provide the excuse to send U.S. troops into Syria.

The area is a cauldron of suffering already--and the arrogance of U.S. actions is just unbelievable.

With Bush in so much political trouble over the criminal neglect of people caught in the hurricane, and with half of the top regime members facing potential prosecution in treasongate, including Cheney (who may be the main target), we need to at least discuss and strategize re: a potential invasion of Syria.

The Bushites badly need a distraction--and Iraq/Syria might be it.

I don't think Bush has any legal authority to expand the war--although this Congress would likely bow down to whatever his majesty desires, and they've grown quite adept now at utterly ignoring public opinion. (Gee, I wonder if it has anything to do with Bushite electronic voting machine companies tabulating all our votes with SECRET, PROPRIETARY programming code?)

Still, I don't think Bush has the political cache left, with which to expand the war. A 30% approval rating--with close to 80% opposing the Iraq war--is damn bad, even for a tyrant. And he doesn't have the cannon fodder. It's just not there. He could nuke it, though----or use conventional bombs on Syrian towns, and try to draw Syria in. The man is such a loony, and his puppetmasters are such evil, greedy people, who knows what they would do? My theory about them is that their first and primary motive is thievery--but that also fits with harming and dominating Syria. I'm not sure what Syria's oil situation is, or what it may be a route to, but at the least such a military move will draw more money out of the thinning American cow, and grab more real estate for the Empire of Halliburton. And, of course, by decimating the area of the Syrian border, they will provide a buffer for the capitol of their thievery, Iraq.

It's scary how disconnected Bush is--and how dependent on his handlers. I shudder to think of him, or any of them, with their fingers on the nuke trigger.

But there will be hell to pay at home, if any such thing is done. Some fear martial law here--with LA as precedent. I think the country's too big, and they don't have the personnel. And they're not interested in government. They don't want to be bothered. They're just into looting, grand scale. So, all in all, I think the Syrian border will remain a place of attrition and occasional bombs and repression--awful, but not major fighting or assault across the border.

What do others think?
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