Michael Jackson plans single for Katrina victims

[sabra]

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N0624218.htm

Michael Jackson plans single for Katrina victims


LOS ANGELES, Sept 6 (Reuters) - Pop star Michael Jackson, who has been in seclusion since his acquittal on sex abuse charges, has written a song that he will record to benefit victims of Hurricane Katrina, his publicist said on Tuesday.

Jackson will record the single, "From the Bottom of My Heart," within two weeks, and he plans to enlist other entertainers for the project, spokeswoman Raymone Bain said.

"It pains me to watch the human suffering taking place in the Gulf region of my country," Jackson, 47, said in a written statement. "My heart and prayers go out to every individual who has had to endure the pain and suffering caused by this tragedy."

He added: "I will be reaching out to others within the music industry to join me in helping bring relief and hope to these resilient people who have lost everything."

[pursuivant]

1. Just what we need, another disaster

[IA_Seth]

9. LOL...literally..you made me laugh out loud! Thank you! n/t

[neuvocat]

37. Haven't they suffered enough?

Oh the humanity!

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

38. Maybe that's the penalty Santorum was talking about? (nt)

[Red Fox]

44. Unnatural disaster at that

Go figure :/

[saigon68]

2. he will be reaching out

[AZBlue]

3. Haven't they been through enough already?

Now Michael's on the bandwagon too? Sorry bub, this won't make us forget that you molest little boys!

[Tomee450]

48. I am sure Michael is just sitting

around worrying about what YOU think.

[Connie_Corleone]

4. That'll be a moneymaker./sarcasm

What happened to his 9/11 song??

[H5N1]

5. He has the wherewithal to make this work - good for him!

[DS1]

6. Send us your poor, downtrodded, and pre-pubescent

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

7. Good..I love Jacko..the guy's got a good heart

[beam me up scottie]

18. Ditto.

Amazing how much hate can be found among the so-called liberal progressives.

I just had to check to see what website this was.

[Wabbajack]

26. Hate for child-molesters....

...you better believe it!

[beam me up scottie]

27. Not guilty, in case you forgot.

There are other websites that welcome haters with open tentacles.
;)

[Wabbajack]

32. OJ was not guilty

too. Guilty people get off all the time. Jackson belongs behind bars. ;)

[beam me up scottie]

34. Wow, a psych-ick!

Either that or you're god.

Just so you know, if you are, I don't believe in you.

[Wabbajack]

56. So do you have to be a "psych-ick"

to know that Bush is ass? No, the evidence is in front of everyones face and so is the evidence that Jacko is pedophille. I hope the next kid he touches decides to bite it off.

[beam me up scottie]

63. Evidence?

You seem to need some help with the definition of that word.

ev•i•dence

Pronunciation: (ev'i-duns),
—n., v., -denced, -denc•ing.

—n.
1. that which tends to prove or disprove something; ground for belief; proof.
2. something that makes plain or clear; an indication or sign: His flushed look was visible evidence of his fever.
3. Law.data presented to a court or jury in proof of the facts in issue and which may include the testimony of witnesses, records, documents, or objects.
4. in evidence, plainly visible; conspicuous: The first signs of spring are in evidence.

—v.t.
1. to make evident or clear; show clearly; manifest: He evidenced his approval by promising his full support.
2. to support by evidence: He evidenced his accusation with incriminating letters.

Now, how about you produce that evidence you say proves Michael Jackson is a pedophile ?

[Wabbajack]

71. I got a definition for you.

But I wouldn't want to get banned or anything. Have a great night buddy!!

[Tomee450]

50. Why

are you bringing up two black men who were acquitted? Is it a matter of race? Robert Durst, the wealthy white New York Real estate developer also was acquitted after confessing to murdering and dismembering his neighbor. He is also supected of murdering his wife,(not seen in years) and her friend who was going to testify against him. Why did you not bring up Robert Blake also accused of murdering his wife but acquitted. The two cases involving the white defendants were recent yet you went back over ten years to bring up OJ Simspon.The fact that you can only express your vitriol for black men acquitted of crimes speaks volumns.

[Wabbajack]

59. I never heard of Robert Durst

and I forgot about Beretta.

The OJ case is the most famous so it's what sprung to mind.



SORRY I GUESS THAT MAKES ME RASCIST.

[Tomee450]

62. Well........

You went back ten years to bring up a black man who was acquitted and ignored Robert Blake acquitted quite recently. How you could not know about Robert Durst is beyond me. His case was covered by Court Tv. and the acquittal reported on all the news station and in the newspapers. When someone can only think of a black man who was acquitted years ago but not remember a white person acquitted just a few months a go, well......

[Wabbajack]

68. What part of

"The OJ case is the most famous so it's what sprung to mind."

Do you not understand.

Ask most people, including most black people and they'll think of Juice way before Berretta or WHOEVERTHEHELL Durst.

By the by did you know JUICE is a bonafide GOPer? Does that change your opinion of him? Hey how about that DNA evidence. He got off cause the stupid rascist cops went over the line not cause he's innocent. He did it.


And so did Jackson.

So do you think Durst and Blake are innocent too? After all the all-mighty juries let them off just like their African-American counterparts!!!

[beam me up scottie]

70. Need a hand with that grave you're digging ?

Nevermind, you seem to be doing fine on your own...

:rofl:

[Wabbajack]

75. So is that a yes on thinking Durst and Blake are innocent

or a no?

Nevermind. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[beam me up scottie]

79. but, but, but, OJ...I mean I'm not a racist ... waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!

http://www.auburn.edu/~murraba/elucid/baby,crying,tantrum.jpg

[Tomee450]

78. Nothing but spin, spin.

You immediately thought of the black man who was acquitted a decade ago, not the two white men acquitted very recently. We both know exactly why that was. African Americans well know that some people become absoultely outraged at the mere suggestion that a black man might have harmed a white person. It's because Simpson is black, his alleged victims white that he is so hated.

[iverglas]

80. just a word

I'd never heard of Durst either. The Baretta guy, yes.

But let's remember WHY we all remember OJ. Me, I'd just as soon never have heard of him. But his trial was a media circus -- and did he have nothing at all to do with that fact? I don't thiiiink so.

I don't recall Durst leading anybody on a chase down a freeway when he was supposed to have turned himself in. I don't recall his counsel speaking in rhyme during the trial. I don't recall anybody trying to pretend that Durst was being prosecuted because of his race and not because of what he (apparently) obviously did.

Of course, I don't recall ever having heard of him *before* he killed his neighbour. Real estate developers in foreign countries don't often enter my consciousness; big-time football players cum bit movie actors do, much as I'd rather they didn't.

And the Baretta guy was so washed up when he did his murder that I can't even remember his name. Oh yeah, you said it; Blake.

(Up here, the icons of the rich and famous who killed their nearest and dearest that I can think of are both white. A leading Conservative politician is doing life for killing his wife, and there was the nursing-home magnate who killed his. Of course, they were both convicted. We're not much impressed by celebrity up here, I guess.)

Might someone in the US actually not watch Court TV? The Simpson trial ran on some ordinary cable station, as I recall.

Might there just be some other differences between Jackson/Simpson and Dunst/Blake besides colour/race that would explain why someone would cite the former two rather than the latter two as icons of the acquitted guilty?

Obviously nerves are bare about issues of race/colour this week. Having accusations of racism flung about here (I've had two utterly groundless such accusations flung at me) is no solution to the obvious racism that is such an obvious contributing factor to the events in the Katrina zone.

People here are mainly strangers to one another; we can't know what motivates someone else unless it is made unmistakable. Benefit of doubt really ought to be given first when possible.

That said, I'm willing to allow some slack for the frayed nerves myself. I eliminated the sarcasatic header I'd started this post with ...

[beam me up scottie]

84. I might have agreed with you if

it hadn't been for post #68.

I do, however, agree that your point is valid and accurate.

[Tomee450]

116. Just more excuses which I totally

reject. Robert Blake's trial was constantly discussed in the media and his acquittal broadly announced. His acquittal was recent yet it is always Simpson, the black man acquitted over ten years ago who is always brought up when certain people discuss murderers. Rarely is Blake, acquitted of the same offense even mentioned. I don't care how well publicized was the Simpson trial, how well known he was, the fact is that three people were acquitted of murder--one black, two white. But only the black man's name is ever brought up and to me, it's a matter of race.

[iverglas]

132. feel free

Of course, if you wanted to address anything I actually said, you're free to do that too.

[XanaDUer]

93. Actually he is suspected of murdering his good friend,

Susan Berman, who he may have suspected of finally talking to the police about a false alibi she may have provided for him when his wife disappeared in the 1980s.

Berman was a recluse and Durst would give her large amounts of money from time to time. She was shot in the back of the head, and the detectives think that whoever killed her she knew and trusted enough to let into her home and turn her back on them.

She used to call Durst her "brother."

Fascinating guy.

[beam me up scottie]

97. I didn't know that.

He sounds like a real peach.
:scared:

[NNN0LHI]

104. Playing the OJ card eh Wabbajack? My racist father does the same thing n/t

[Tomee450]

46. And so you saw him molest a child.

Funny, I thought he was acquitted of all charges. But then he is an acquiitted black man whom people like you believe to be guilty, so his acquittal means nothing. Racism is alive and strong in America.

[Wabbajack]

60. Come on

most of the jurors thought that he was guilty as sin. They wanted to go home and a couple wouldn't budge so they caved and aquitted him. His race has nothing to do with anything.

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[Tomee450]

66. Baloney

I saw the jurors being interviewed on Larry King, nine of those jurors were adamant in their belief in Jackson's innocence. Only three jurors were not sure but felt the evidence was not there to convict. Later, two of the three jurors, now writing books, came out and said they thought Jackson was guilty. The seventy-nine year old juror from the beginning planned on writing a book. She was challenged on that by some of the other jurors. She and the other juror now saying they believed Jackson guilty have even been ridiculed by people on the prosecution side.

[Tomee450]

49. It's to be expected it seems even

here on a site that is supposedly progressive. But then you know that if certain people believe a black man is guilty, his acquittal means nothing. An accused black man is a guilty black man. A black man in American who is accused of a crime for which many in the majority community believes he is guilty, remains guilty even though acquitted. He does not get the change to get on with his life. I get so fed up with the double standard. Russell Crowe commits a violent act against a hotel worker and he's just being Russel Crowe and still greatly admired though he has a history of being violent. Imagine if a black movie star had done what he did.

[theHandpuppet]

51. No, ANY man who likes to sleep with little boys...

... is guilty of molestation, whether or not sex is involved. I'm sorry you don't see that. But perhaps the next time your neighbor invites your child over for sleepovers in his bed, you'll be quite accomodating.

As for Russell Crowe, I personally think he's a violent, drunken thug.

[beam me up scottie]

69. Bullshit.

From Allwords.com:

molest
verb molested, molesting

1. To attack or interfere with someone sexually.
2. formal
To attack someone, causing them physical harm.
Thesaurus: attack, accost, assail, harm, injure, ill-treat, maltreat.
3. old use
To disturb or upset.
Thesaurus: harass, hassle, plague, torment, vex, disturb.

[Tomee450]

73. Unlike you

I want evidence to prove guilt. Every one of those witnesses were not credible. Jackson may be odd but that does not mean he is a child molester. You WANT to believe Jackson is a molester that is why you accept the accusations of some of the most vile people one could meet. You conveniently overlook the testimony of other boys with whom Jackson was acquainted who said he never molested them. I think it was quite telling that the young man who first accused Jackson left the country to avoid testifying against him. I guess if at some time someone accused you of a crime, you are prepared for them to believe you did commit that crime, even though you might not be guilty.

[theHandpuppet]

89. Jackson himself admits he sleeps with little children

I did not say Jackson sexually molested these children -- but there is also a kind of psychological molestation and abuse that is manifested in Jackson's behavior.

Or do you find that acceptable behavior? Would you let your little children have sleepovers with your adult neighbor/pastor/boy scout leader? You know, I find your level of denial to be frightening. Rather than address this issue you just continue to attck and defame the children involved.

I can see by some of the posts made in this thread why so few children are willing to come forward on issues of abuse.

[beam me up scottie]

92. WTF?

I realize this is a hot button issue, but accusing him of attacking children and insinuating that the posters in this thread are personally responsible for preventing children from reporting abuse is way out of line.

[theHandpuppet]

96. Sorry, but don't twist what I said to suit your knee-jerk reactions

I said he sleeps with little boys, has ADMITTED that he does. I did not say he admitted to having sex with them, but sleeping with them. Do you deny this?

As for the other issue, I consider some posters' defense of this psychologically abusive behavior to be reflective of children's powerlessness in this society, and an all to easy willingness to blame the victims of abuse. If you find that not to your liking, so be it.

[beam me up scottie]

98. I don't need to twist them, here they are:

"you just continue to attck and defame the children involved.

I can see by some of the posts made in this thread why so few children are willing to come forward on issues of abuse."

You attacked another poster without reason and accuse others of defending child abuse.

There was another poster who did exactly the same thing a few months back.

Her accusations were also out of line, not to mention dishonest and hateful.

[theHandpuppet]

115. Denial ain't just a river in Egypt

"I realize this is a hot button issue, but accusing him of attacking children and insinuating that the posters in this thread are personally responsible for preventing children from reporting abuse is way out of line."

See post #73, in which the poster states that none of the witnesses against Jackson has been credible. Since some of those witnesses were children, I assume the poster is essentially claiing them liars. I call that an attack and a defamation of their character. This is the same kind of slandering that keeps victims of abuse, be it children or women, from coming forward and reporting their abuse. It matters not to me whether you like that or not.

As far as the poster defending acts of what might be considered child abuse my Mr Jackson, what else would you call it? I stand by what I said.

I notice that no one bothered to answer the question I posed, so I'll just assume that you admit Mr Jackson sleeps with little children. You can hardly deny it, since he himself has admitted it.

Nonetheless, it really is pointless to continue a debate with folks who are so deep in denial they'd probably send their own children over to sleep in Mr Jackson's bed without a thought that such behavior is inappropriate.

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[theHandpuppet]

126. Your posts speak for themselves regarding attacks on other posters here

Of course, I was already somewhat familiar with your tone from the Science Forum so this comes as no surprise. Unlike some other posters with whom you have sparred, I'm not so easily cowed.

Bullying doesn't work that well with me, so fire away. My opinions of Mr Jackson's behavior won't change, and neither will my total bewilderment at those who would defend such behavior. If your only defense of such is to attack me, then spin your wheels. I've said what I have to say.

[beam me up scottie]

127. When you personally attacked another poster for disagreeing with you,

it became pretty obvious who the bully was in this thread.
I questioned your attack, and you then turned on me.

[Tomee450]

117. How absurd.

So now we are going to assume that there is psychological molestation and a man should be sent to prison for that? Unbelievable. Now, according to you, there does not have to be evidence of a crime. It's now acceptable to convict on the belief that psychological molestation has occurred. Incredible.

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[Boomer]

129. What if your plumber wanted to have a sleepover with your son?

Yeah, really makes you wonder how people would react if...

... your 45-year-old plumber called up one day and asked your 8-year-old son to his house for a sleepover in his bed. Would that be okay? Would you consider this appropriate behavior because he's such a good plumber? Because he gave money to local charities?

... your 45-year-old dentist started showering your kid with presents, buying your family a new car on a whim, then taking your son to DisneyWorld where they shared a room while Mom & Dad had another room. This would be just fine because he such a great guy and besides, your daugther got new braces for free. How could you begrudge that man your son's company, right?

... your 45-year-old neighbor down the block was so fond of your son that he wanted him to sleepover nights and bring his pajamas. Isn't that sweet? Hell, he mows your grass for free so how could you possibly refuse?

There is no "innocent" explanation for grown men having sleepovers with young children. It's a sign of severe emotional disturbance that they would even WANT to do that, regardless of whether or not anything "happens."

Small children need to be protected, and that means erring on the side of caution. And if that means Michael Jackson spends the night alone, with no children in his bed, so be it.

[beam me up scottie]

82. It's a combination of racism with

a touch of homophobia.

I've heard people declare him guilty because they say he's a "freak".

In the minds of bigots, anyone who is different is automatically a lesser being and therefore much more likely to be guilty of committing crimes.

[Tomee450]

118. So true

Some of the greatest figures in history have been odd but contributed greatly to the world. Today, it seems certain people believe that those who are different should be ostracized.

[beam me up scottie]

124. That's why they fought so hard

to have the trial in that particular county.

They were betting on conservatives being more likely to judge someone by their appearance and eccentricities and not paying much attention to the lack of evidence or credible witnesses.

Now the homophobes are trying to keep the lynch mob alive by twisting the facts and calling anyone who knows it was a witch hunt advocates of child molestation.

[Lecky]

131. That's bullshit

It has nothing to do with him being black...more having to do with MJ sleeping with children...not to mention showering with them!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7395129/

And yes a lot of people (including some progressives) think MJ is most likely a pedophile...AND NOT BECAUSE HE IS BLACK.

[pitohui]

109. agreed

what i saw the dude has been exploited enough & he's still trying to help, i wouldn't blame him for hiding out in bahrain forever

[Chicago Democrat]

8. Title? "George Bush doesn't Care About Black People"

Or "Killing Black Babies while I eat Cake and Strum my Guitar"

[genius]

10. I like Michael. I hope he does well with it.

[DemExpat]

14. Me, too, genius.

Good initiative to make money for those who have lost everything, and to get him back into his music.

I wish him well.

DemEx

[henslee]

28. Me three.

[donheld]

36. This should not be about Micheal - It's about Katrina victims

I hope it makes a lot of money for them. Forget about Michael.

[Drifter]

11. Fuck him ...

He is just trying to figure out how he can declare his Neverland Ranch a Childrens Shelter.

Cheers
Drifter

[elehhhhna]

12. Remix of "Where The Boys Are" ?

[Stand and Fight]

13. Good to see that Michael Jackson has a heart.

That can't be said for some of the people on this board or the Bush administration and a majority of Republicans.

[sabra]

17. I agree

it's sad :-(

[JustSayNO 2 Sheeples]

15. BFD

[alphadog]

16. Eww. Gross

How about he donates Neverland to displaced persons and moves far far away, never to make another single. Now THAT I'd pay for.

[CatWoman]

19. Several of you ignorant motherfuckers in this thread

disgust me.

Fuck you all.

[olddad56]

21. Appeciate your wisdom and thoughtful comments.

[xchrom]

22. indeed.

[beam me up scottie]

23. Am I one?

Jeez, I hope not.
I'm trying really hard to be nice today.
:hi:

[CatWoman]

25. you're not one, BMUS

Live long and prosper :hi:

[beam me up scottie]

29. Thanks!

You rock!
:yourock:
If I wasn't in so much trouble already, I might have been brave enough to say what you did.
:applause:

[pursuivant]

41. Sorry, but it sounds like opportunism to me

Recently, we've had all sorts of high-profile people "volunteering" or planning "fund raisers" for Katrina victims in a way that just reeks of economic or political opportunism.

Will Jacko's new album or Rush's stage show be fundraisers for them or for the victims of Katrina? Who cares, they're selfishly turning part of the media focus away from the disaster and towards themselves.

If they're sincere, my apologies to them, but I think that they're just another form of parasite, like Haliburton or the con artists running bogus charities or offering shoddy home repairs.

If you're a millionaire or celebrity, the right thing to do is cut a check in proportion to your means and not make a big noise about it. If you're a politician, the right thing to do is use your clout to drum up money, get aid flowing, cut red tape, and prevent future disasters, not stage cheap photo ops.

[Tomee450]

57. You don't know a darn thing

about Michael Jackson. You don't know what's in his heart. I think some of these posts are thoroughly disgusting and we only see such deep vitriol when the subject is a black man. I started not to look in this thread because I knew all the haters would rush to it. Simply disgusting. Why is it a big deal when Jackson decides to do something to aid the victims. Celebrities hold concerts all over the world to help aids and other victims. This has been going on for years. Yet when Jackson does it, he has to have ulterior motives. For your information, over the years Michael Jackson had donated millions of dollars to charities and has done so quietly. Some of the comments here are despicable. In their hatred for Jackson some posters would rather that the victims not benefit from the money he might raise. So much for their compassion.....none.

[beam me up scottie]

61. Um, if you're like me,

you don't follow celebrity news.

But from what I understand, Michael Jackson is not in a position to cut a check to anyone.

He's about to lose everything he has.

So, maybe this will help him get some good publicity and benefit his career, and maybe it won't.

But the fact remains, the proceeds are going to be donated to the victims, and I think that's more than a just a "cheap photo op".

Just MHO, though.

You're certainly entitled to yours.

[alkaline9]

20. whether he has done wrong in his past or not...

...its still good to see an international figure standing up to help. I hope he raises millions, and I hope many follow his lead. There are plenty of wealthy Americans who can and will step up and help. I only hope that all of their intentions are genuine (as I believe MJ's are).

[StellaBlue]

24. I agree.

If he has the ability to raise millions for these people, he should do it and we should applaud him. If he keeps the money, or any of the money, then we should not.

But I think it's a good thing.

[beam me up scottie]

31. Nice sentiment.

Welcome to DU, StellaBlue!
:hi:

[StellaBlue]

33. Thanks!

:)

[beam me up scottie]

30. Well said and

welcome to DU, alkaline9!
:hi:

[Eugene]

35. If he can make it work, good for him. n/t

[maxsolomon]

39. "We're sending our love down a well"

was already performed by the town of Springfield.

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[beam me up scottie]

42. See post #19

:hi:

[lateo]

43. Quick...someone call Sir Elton and tell him to do it first!

LOL

[icymist]

45. Wacko Jacko writes 'Katrina single' (Herald Sun / Australia)

Wacko Jacko writes 'Katrina single'
From correspondents in Los Angeles
07sep05

MICHAEL Jackson, who has been in seclusion since his acquittal on sex abuse charges, has written a song that he will record to benefit victims of Hurricane Katrina.

Jackson would record the single, From the Bottom of My Heart, within two weeks and planned to enlist other entertainers for the project, his spokeswoman Raymone Bain said.

http://heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,16520724%255E1702,00.html

[Tomee450]

47. Wonderful.

I admire Micahel Jackson for all the good he has done most of his life.

[Enraged_Ape]

52. Wake me when Culture Club plans their Katrina tribute

Until then, as far as washed-up 80's acts go, I'm ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzz.......

[IndyJones]

130. Sorry, but IMO, this is more about getting attention than anything else.

I hope I'm wrong, but that's how I see it at this point.

[MojoXN]

53. His idosynchrocies aside...

THANK YOU MICHAEL!!!

MojoXN

[Sabriel]

54. Isn't it time for "Candle in the Hurricane"?

Time to recycle it again, Sir Elton.

[Roy]

55. why do DU'ers???????

why do DU'ers keep calling disruptors and trolls DU'ers just because they troll here?

This post and many others start off with obvious trolls and when I see people say they are shocked by idiotic comments on a progressive board, it just floors me every time.

Hey!!!! Thats why they make idiotic post on a progressive board. They create idiocy here so they can have Neil Boortz to comment and link to it. You'll drive yourselves into the nut house trying to reason with the unreasonable.

I don't get it? :shrug:

[Tomee450]

58. Hmmmm

You know, you may be on to something.

[beam me up scottie]

72. Because we can get kicked off if we call them what they are ?

Not a guess, actually.
It happened to a good friend.

You must respect the trolls, they're our guests, after all. :spank:

[Roy]

83. Yeh, but you don't have to call'em DUers.

It's not against the rules to point out that a trolls post is freperish. Heck, I have probably posted freperish looking post, and I have been here since the beginning of DU, and probably more to the left than most.

If these idiots think that they actually fool anyone into thinking they are actually dems their perverse gratification is heightened 10 fold.

I don't like helping freepers climax.

[beam me up scottie]

86. Look whose post was deleted above.

Not one of the many hateful ones on this thread, but mine.

Some of us don't believe in the fairness of the system anymore, thanks to personal experience.

But if you can get away with it, go, man, go!

[Arkana]

64. Like they haven't suffered enough already.

:puke:

[nothometoday]

67. I was molested as a kid. This guy is guilty

as hell. I will not give him one god forsaken dime of mine.

[beam me up scottie]

76. Sorry about what happened to you,

it's a despicable crime.

But you're not able to read minds.

And unless you were there when the alleged act occurred, that's the only way you would know, without a doubt, that MJ was guilty.

[nothometoday]

88. I am no persons judge and jury

i just know first hand, that he fits the profile in SPADES of a child molester. The grooming, the whole nine yards. When it happens to you, you have a 6th sense so to speak. No, I will not buy his music. yes, I think he has too damn many people saying he did to say he is totally without guilt.

[beam me up scottie]

95. They used to burn witches at the stake

because of peoples' "6th sense".

I prefer our judicial system, even with all of its warts, to the alternative.

[Boomer]

128. The pattern is obvious

For years Michael Jackson publically flaunted his predatory behavior. He would chose some pretty, prepubescent boy as his current "favorite" and shower him with gifts, shower the boy's family with money, take him on trips, then drop him like a hot potato when the boy neared adolescence. This pattern is documented over and over again through years of news photos that show that oh-so-familiar shot of Michael with some pretty boy by his side for a year or two, then gone, replaced by another pretty little boy.

At its best, this is emotional abuse and abandonment, but it is also the profile of a pedophile. Whether or not MJ ever crossed the line into sexual intimacy has yet to be proven in court, but I am just aghast that so many people do not recognize inappropriate behavior that puts their children at risk if left alone with him.

Why would anyone risk their children if there is even a possibility that he's a pedophile? Why would anyone let their child be the target of his emotional/mental head games?

[CatWoman]

77. I wasn't aware that he asked for your dime

maybe you should round up your dimes and get some counseling.

[Tomee450]

81. Amen!

[Roy]

105. BULLSHIT!!

so, let me see.........

If you hadn't been molested as a kid, I guess he would innocent.

Your logic.... not mine. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[superconnected]

74. MJ has a long history of starting fundraisers and never following through

He also promisses tens of thousands that he never donates.

[CatWoman]

85. where did you get that info?

http://www.allmichaeljackson.com/charities.html

ALL MICHAEL JACKSON. com

CHARITIES ALL TAKEN FROM EXCLUSIVELY MJ SO NEEDS EDITING

Michael Jackson is a true humanitarian, an example to us all. He has devoted much time and money to a wide range of charities. He loves children and takes time out when touring secretly visting sick children. He also has special rooms at his home Neverland for sick and terminally ill children to stay over. He was listed in the 2000 edition of the Guiness Book Of World Records for breaking the world record for the "Most Charities Supported By a Pop Star". It states that Michael Jackson has supported 39 charity organizations either with monetary donations through sponsorships of their projects or by participating in their silent auction.

We have made an alphabetical list of known charities that Michael Jackson has individualy supported publically throughout his career. Michael Jackson also helped set up Heal The World Foundation, the charities this has supported have not been listed. Read our Heal The World/kids page for details of this foundation.

* AIDS Project L.A.
* American Cancer Society
* Angel Food
* Big Brothers of Greater Los Angeles
* BMI Foundation, Inc.
* Brotherhood Crusade
* Brothman Burn Center
* Camp Ronald McDonald
* Childhelp U.S.A.
* Children's Institute International
* Cities and Schools Scholarship Fund
* Community Youth Sports & Arts Foundation
* Congressional Black Caucus (CBC)
* Dakar Foundation
* Dreamstreet Kids
* Dreams Come True Charity
* Elizabeth Taylor Aids Foundation
* Juvenile Diabetes Foundation
* Love Match
* Make-A-Wish Foundation
* Minority Aids Project
* Motown Museum
* NAACP
* National Rainbow Coalition
* Rotary Club of Australia
* Society of Singers
* Starlight Foundation
* The Carter Center's Atlanta Project
* The Sickle Cell Research Foundation
* Transafrica
* United Negro College Fund (UNCF)
* United Negro College Fund Ladder's of Hope
* Volunteers of America
* Watts Summer Festival
* Wish Granting
* YMCA - 28th Street/Crenshaw

[superconnected]

87. If you dig further you will find that he announced he was helpling

several but never did.

There is an excellent article about it in Vanity Fair in April 2003.

Edited to correct the year of the article.

I'm searching the information on this to provide a link.

[superconnected]

102. Found the Vanity Fair Article

http://www.vanityfair.com/commentary/content/articles/050411roco03c?page=2

"In the 2000 Guinness Book of Records, Michael Jackson is cited for the most charities supported by a pop star—39—and he constantly flies around the world picking up lifetime-achievement and humanitarian awards. In fact, that was why he was in Germany when he dangled the baby. However, as Roger Friedman reported in his Fox 411 on-line column in February 2002, "the last tax filing available—for 1999—shows Jackson giving no money to other charities at all and receiving no donations from others." The Heal the World Foundation's Web site appears not to have been updated since 1996, and the charity Earth Care, which his brother Jermaine announced on Larry King Live this past January, has not materialized. In 1998, Britain's Charity Commission shut down Heal the World, which had not made a donation in three years. According to London's Daily Mail, the commission concluded, "The name had been so disfigured by the actions of Michael Jackson that it was not worth continuing to run the organisation in any form." Inside Edition recently reported that the only donation Heal the World made in 2000 was a transfer of $100,000 to the Heal the Kids Initiative, which Jackson began with gadfly Rabbi Shmuley Boteach, author of Kosher Sex. That $100,000 is so far unaccounted for, and the New York State attorney general's office has served Heal the Kids with a notice of failure to comply with filing requirements. Jackson's latest benefit song, "What More Can I Give," recorded in the wake of 9/11, was shelved by his own advisers when the news broke that he had given the production rights to a gay-porn director and producer. Nevertheless, last Christmas, Jackson announced that he was forming yet another children's charity, to be kicked off with yet another benefit concert. So far that charity has not even been named. (Jackson's representatives did not respond to repeated requests for comment.)"

[tinfoilinfor2005]

90. The list of the shameless

just continues to grow.

[CatWoman]

91. and you've just added yourself to it

[beam me up scottie]

101. We are now responsible for

underreported child sexual abuse.

Oh, and we defend pedophilia, too.

[Ayesha]

94. "Black man"?

Jacko hasn't been a black man since around 1990.

And yes, he absolutely has the psychological makeup of a child molester. I think there's room for debate on whether he molested the kid he was charged with molesting in the trial, but I have NO doubt he has done it before, including to the kid who accused him in the early 90's. There's a transcript on The Smoking Gun website, read it and you'll be convinced too.

BTW, Dubai (where Jacko is now living) has a big problem with children being trafficked into the country for labor and sexual servitude. Hmm, I WONDER why he likes it so much there!

[beam me up scottie]

100. I also refer you to post #19.

:hi:

[VegasWolf]

99. Good! nt

[superconnected]

103. MJ's Charities - not

http://www.vanityfair.com/commentary/content/articles/050411roco03c?page=2

In the 2000 Guinness Book of Records, Michael Jackson is cited for the most charities supported by a pop star—39—and he constantly flies around the world picking up lifetime-achievement and humanitarian awards. In fact, that was why he was in Germany when he dangled the baby. However, as Roger Friedman reported in his Fox 411 on-line column in February 2002, "the last tax filing available—for 1999—shows Jackson giving no money to other charities at all and receiving no donations from others." The Heal the World Foundation's Web site appears not to have been updated since 1996, and the charity Earth Care, which his brother Jermaine announced on Larry King Live this past January, has not materialized. In 1998, Britain's Charity Commission shut down Heal the World, which had not made a donation in three years. According to London's Daily Mail, the commission concluded, "The name had been so disfigured by the actions of Michael Jackson that it was not worth continuing to run the organisation in any form." Inside Edition recently reported that the only donation Heal the World made in 2000 was a transfer of $100,000 to the Heal the Kids Initiative, which Jackson began with gadfly Rabbi Shmuley Boteach, author of Kosher Sex. That $100,000 is so far unaccounted for, and the New York State attorney general's office has served Heal the Kids with a notice of failure to comply with filing requirements. Jackson's latest benefit song, "What More Can I Give," recorded in the wake of 9/11, was shelved by his own advisers when the news broke that he had given the production rights to a gay-porn director and producer. Nevertheless, last Christmas, Jackson announced that he was forming yet another children's charity, to be kicked off with yet another benefit concert. So far that charity has not even been named. (Jackson's representatives did not respond to repeated requests for comment.)

This is from Apr 2003 of Vanity Fair Magazine.

[beam me up scottie]

106. Well, IMO, it looks like their sources are mostly tabloid trash,

and the rest is inconclusive, but at least you took the time to back up your opinion and disagree respectfully without post-judicially condemning the guy or accusing those who think he's innocent of defending pedophilia.

[superconnected]

107. I think each source can be looked up indvidually from here.

I'm at work running between servers, or I would verify further.

[beam me up scottie]

111. No, that's okay.

I admit it does look like he didn't follow through on some of the charities and it's not worth going through the trouble.

I'm not even a fan of his really, although I think he's sincere.

I think the guy has a good heart and was the victim of a witch hunt led by a psychotic DA and encouraged by a homophobic lynch-mob who wanted to see the blood of someone who was guilty of being different.

[superconnected]

113. sorry I didn't see this

Yes, I'll stop looking him up.

I just remembered the article from 2003. I'm not actually interested in mj's dealing.

[pitohui]

108. thanks mj

for those who would shit on somebody trying to help because they were accused of a crime (and exonerated) get over yr self

ppl need help if mj can help let him

[superconnected]

110. actually he's being accused of more than child molestation.

Here's a heal the kids foundation article, unfortunatly google found this on on Fox news.

"But the subsequent tax filing shows no money was given to children or any charitable causes at all. What it does show is a total of $203,185 collected from direct public support. At the same time, the charity's expenses totaled $259,432. All but $20,000 of that was spent on staff salaries and office expenses. "


http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:SRcxYopRgAcJ:www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,49808,00.html+%22heal+the+kids%22+Michael+Jackson&hl=en


See another article above for the missing 100k and the charities he announced he was going to do that he never did.

[superconnected]

112. More Charity Problems with MJ

From http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:bYDfn20ar8MJ:celebrityjustice.warnerbros.com/news/0403/16a.html+%22Heal+the+World%22+Michael+Jackson+shut+down&hl=en


"I think Michael Jackson gets very enthusiastic about a new charity that he's forming, but doesn't have the patience or the follow through to carry it out," Borochoff said.

"Other Jackson benefits have been big disappointments. According to the Los Angeles Times, one of those was a 1994 TV benefit called "The Jackson Family Honors." The show raised $4.5 million, but only $100,000 went to charity. That's a little over 2 cents per dollar.

In 1999, Jackson joined Nelson Mandela to announce two overseas benefit shows. The news media later reported those shows raised millions, but according to court papers, those shows actually lost money. The promoter sued Jackson, claiming the promoter paid money to the charities, not Jackson. The promoter also claimed Jackson’s "flamboyant spending" left nothing for the worthy causes.

Last October Jackson made his single, "What More Can I Give," available online for $2 a download. Portions were supposed to go to three charities. But sources say the single isn't selling, and when we contacted the charities they told us they haven't seen any cash. "

[SemiCharmedQuark]

114. How many people were angry when Bush didn't accept aid?

And now they want to refuse aid too?

Pot? Meet our good friend, Kettle.

[Nostradamus]

121. Maybe he could do a cover of Led Zep's "when the levee breaks"

[Charlie Brown]

122. Why can't he just donate?

Oh, wait. He's broke. Forgot

[Nostradamus]

123. Or "Leaving Louisiana in broad daylight" by Emmylou Harris

[regnaD kciN]

125. Next up...

Katrina* plans single for Michael Jackson victims.

*of the Waves

:evilgrin:

[Moderator]

133. Locking

No longer LBN.