Crowd flocks to hear Gore's warnings (on Global Warming)

[AlGore-08.com]

http://www.oregonlive.com/news/oregonian/index.ssf?/base/news/1126090517195010.xml&coll=7

An overflow Portland audience for the former vice president's global warming talk results in a second show

JOE ROJAS-BURKE

With a message about the urgent need to combat global warming, former Vice President Al Gore drew unexpected thousands of Portlanders to the Oregon Convention Center on Tuesday night.

The crowds snaked around the corridors of the convention center, and those who were denied entry chanted and pounded on the doors until Gore agreed to do a second show.

The Democratic presidential candidate in 2000, who lost one of the nation's most controversial elections, has among other pursuits been busily touring the country with a slide show heavy on charts and graphs explaining global warming and its potential consequences.

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[greenman3610]

1. is this speech on line somewhere?eom

[glitch]

14. I've been looking.. if you find it pm me. I'll do likewise.

Finding info on Gore that isn't rightwing spewage is getting harder and harder.

[tom_paine]

2. kick

:kick:

[Wind Dancer]

3. People are hungry for true leadership.

I hope he continues to speak out about global warming.

Great website, btw, will you have the transcript up soon?

[AlGore-08.com]

17. Thanks! No, we won't have a transcript, he's making a feature documentary

about global warming, and these speeches are being filmed for it. Because of that, he's not issuing transcripts or videos of his global warming speeches right now.

The last we heard, they were hoping to have the film completed and in distribution in December. We will (obviously) post additional information about the film when there are developments.

[Wind Dancer]

19. I look forward to the documentary.

Gore gave one of the best speeches prior to the 2004 election demanding the resignation of all these leaders. He seems to be more progressive since the 2000 elections - it was great to see him rescue some of the hurricane victims on his dime.

[glitch]

30. That's too bad. I doubt releasing mp3 of his speeches would impact

viewership negatively, if anything it would generate a free promotional buzz.

[The Backlash Cometh]

47. People are hungry for truth.

[ramapo]

4. Gore gets guts

Too bad he lost much of his environmentalism while VP.

[karynnj]

6. That's not fair - the VP is not in a position to

push a different agenda then the President - it would cut his usefulness and that of the President. That's the down side of being VP.

Environmental issues were important to Gore over his entire career.

[CorwinB]

25. Well...

I know at least one VP who can push his own agenda without bothering about what the Preznit thinks. :)

[Samantha]

57. Gore was THE ONLY REASON the United States was at the Koyoto table

No one in the Clinton administration thought the U.S. should participate. Not even Clinton. The costs of implementing everything championed at the original summit was too prohibitive to U.S. businesses. Gore successfully made the case BY HIMSELF that we at least had to have a seat at the table to negotiate standards by which the U.S. could become a signatory. It was well known at the time that Congress itself would not support U.S. participation. AL GORE INSISTED THE U.S. MUST BE REPRESENTED, AND SO HE WENT. This was reported by David Mariness, of the Washington Post.

[AlGore-08.com]

61. And the entire Senate rejected Kyoto, 95-0

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/transcripts/27gwwarming.html

"What's Up with the Weather?"

PBS Airdate: April 18, 2000

(snip)

NARRATOR: If the technological obstacles to combatting greenhouse gases seem difficult, the political challenges might be even greater. Even before the Kyoto conference started, the idea of U.S. cutbacks was in trouble in the Senate.

SEN. CHARLES HAGEL, (R) Nebraska: It is the developing nations which will be the biggest emitters of greenhouse gases during the next 25 years. It is complete folly to exclude them from legally binding emission mandates. How could any treaty aimed at reducing global emissions of greenhouse gases be at all effective when it excludes these 130 nations?

NARRATOR: Remarkably, even liberal Senators concerned about global warming had concluded that voting for Kyoto was political suicide.

SEN. RON WYDEN, (D) Oregon: The fact is, our country can control global warming without causing an economic meltdown! Now, there are really three approaches-

RICHARD BERKE, The New York Times: You can't underestimate that power of interests on Capitol Hill that are opposed to this, between the business interests and the labor interests and so forth. Even Republicans these days are much more apt to call themselves green and to say they're fighting for environmental issues, but they'll only go so far because you don't want to run into danger with the business groups that are crucial to funding a lot of these campaigns.

NARRATOR: In a rare display of unity, the Senate voted 95 to nothing declaring their opposition to Kyoto.

SENATE PRESIDENT PRO TEM: The yeas are 95, and the nays are 0, and the resolution is approved.

NARRATOR: Climate scientists, who had seen the treaty as a small first step, were stunned.

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[hatrack]

62. This was a non-binding "sense of the Senate" resolution

Even so, it was a stunning display of greed, hubris and stupidity. And now, seven years later, they squawk and preen about the "Climate Stewardship Act", which is, of course, voluntary. Oh, and which (of course) didn't pass.

Anyone surprised that the Climate Stewardship Act is a McCain/Lieberman effort? I wasn't.

[kodi]

7. Browner was EPA chief under Clinton BECAUSE of Gore.

he demanded that.

[drummo]

10. 1.Where did you get that Gore "demanded" it

and that's why she became EPA chief?

2.What's your problem with Browner? I think she did a good job.

(Please, spare me from the extreme greenpeace-type enviromentalism. They are nuts.
Gore is not that far out. Thank God.)

[kodi]

12. you misread my intent. i supported Browner's actions at EPA

as to gore demanding browner it it was the very first thing gore told clinton he wanted from him as to appointments at the cabinet level.

i hate to talk of "common knowledge" but in '93 it was common knowledge that browner was Gore's pick at EPA.....and that was a good thing, and not as you presumed i meant, a bad thing.

[mirandapriestly]

24. Greenpeace is not "nuts" nt

[drummo]

39. They are nuts.

Its American head in 2000 wrote an idiotic tirade about why Gore "failed to get the green vote".
One of his arguments: The Clinton-Gore admin. did not impose sanctions on Japan because of continued whale hunting. No kidding. :banghead:

Bush is hunting people! So is Greenpeace happy now?

[DURHAM D]

15. Sounds like you heard a Nader (lie) talking point. eom

[JNelson6563]

5. I was on reich-wing radio today

A real get things done kinda gal here, with big connections, has arranged for a once a week 1 hour show for Liberals. I just did my second stint on there this morning. Global warming and its effects were mentioned and I stated that Al Gore had warned of exactly what we are seeing now back during his 2000 campaign. The winger host had no comeback. haha Thanks President Gore, for your foresight and wisdom.

Julie

[ozone_man]

8. Also Earth in the Balance

- Ecology and the Human Spirit (1992). I hope he makes it around my way.

Gore/Dean 2008

[Tyrone Slothrop]

9. GORE 08!!!

I really do sincerely hope he runs again.

It would be nice to put this country back on the track that it should have been on for the past 5 years.

[Southsideirish]

11. I would work my butt off for Gore in 08!

[calimary]

13. Y'know something? I think he's spent long enough in the wilderness.

Gore '08 is starting to sound rawther intriguing!

Maybe we need some smart, experienced, credible, compassionate, AND ALREADY-PROVEN leadership for a change.

It might just be time. I think a lot of people who turned their noses up at him in 2000, like Mo Dowd and others in the media especially - who hooted and jeered at him for wearing earth tones and for "inventing the internet" - and who are now exhibiting CLEAR and STRONG signals of buyers' remorse, might be relieved and delighted to give him a second look. Especially since their eyes are no longer clouded by the crap we were all fed (and some of us refused to eat) about how wonderful and honest and effective the bushies would be. I keep wishing I could ask people like Dowd - "well, happy now?"

[Tyrone Slothrop]

16. I agree wholeheartedly

I think that a lot of people would give him another chance after seeing how badly Bush has been screwing up. (And let's not forget that electoral votes/SCOTUS votes aside, a lot more people voted for Gore than for Bush.)

3 (new) points in favor of Gore:

#1: He's shown himself to be much more personable since the election than he did on the campaign. I think the loss loosened him up a lot. (See his appearances on SNL, Letterman, TDS, et al. recently.)

#2: Given the state of the world from a meteorological standpoint, his message about the environment and global warming (and fuel conservation) would go over like gangbusters this time around.

#3: Given the state of the economy, his ties with the Clintonian Golden Age would be a major boon. In 2000, I don't think anyone really believed it could get this bad.

[sophie996]

22. YOU BET!

we need to let the democratic party know how we feel. i wrote them today that i was shocked there was nothing in their news section about gore's NOLA rescue mission.

http://www.democrats.org/

also your state parties. get in there and work, people!

[howmad1]

54. Just make sure Clinton and the DLC keep their hands off.

[Liberal Dose]

68. Gore has been my president since 2000. I refer to him as "President in

Exile Gore" which pisses of some of my coworkers, but I no longer give a rat's ass.

[sandnsea]

18. Oh crud, I forgot about this

I got so caught up in Katrina, I forgot to go. Dammit.

[Dervill Crow]

20. I didn't make it either.

Got off work late, daughter got let go from her job so I was consoling her, and I had to get youngest son ready for first day of school today. Not that any of those things are comparable to the murder of mother earth, but I just couldn't get out of the house.

Damn. I'm hoping for more opportunities to see Gore, even if it isn't up close in person. He's definitely a hero.

[Lisa]

21. I'm glad it was so well-attended

Looking forward to seeing that documentary! It'd be great if they release it at around the same time as the big Montreal meeting on the global warming treaty, this fall.

Then the rest of us can see it too!

[BlueJac]

23. Gore in '08...

that would put him up there with FDR third term....he did win in 2000 therefore is the president!!

[gulfcoastliberal]

26. Kicked & Rec'd... Edit: GORE IN 08!!

Al Gore rocks! A real president with a real brain.

[Be Brave]

27. Oregonians are very environmentally conscious people.

Portland is a very livable city. It is a city where you can find electric outlets on the streets where people can recharge their electric cars. Oregonians love the nature that is Oregon. Why do you think it remains to be a beautiful place?

[Autonomy]

37. Portland is the most liveable city in the US, except

the weather made me want to leap out a second story window more than once. I had to leave town before a second winter set in. I still miss the city, though.

[Be Brave]

44. Thank you for that funny story. Ok, ok, not everybody can take the

long rainy season. But I gladly suffer it in exchange for nature and the wonderful summer.

[shanti]

58. you and me both!

lol. i can laugh about it now, but i spent 1.5 years in tacoma, washington - that rain and gloom is a bytch! i became clinically depressed and fled back to cali. voila - no more depression.

[Lisa]

65. guys! stop bumming me out! I'm in BC ...

... and I was hoping to remain in a state of denial until the clouds close in, come October!

(The wet season gets longer and rainier, as you go north up the coast.)

[Usrename]

28. Al, speak up Al, we can barely hear you.

[Scout1071]

29. RUN AL, RUN! He would be my candidate for 2008.

Above any others that have been mentioned thus far on this sight.

I would really get behind a Gore/Clark or Gore/Conyers ticket.

[styersc]

34. Draft Gore in 2008!!!!!

I'll be the first and most enthusiastic volunteer.

[Vox_Reason]

31. I would vote for Al Gore in a HEARTBEAT.

He should compile all the speeches he's made since 2000 into a book. I've read most of them, and they're GREAT.

WHAT an intellect. WHAT compassion. WHAT insight.

AL GORE is who America elected in 2000--and think of how much better off this country would be right now if he were still in the White House.

I'll never forget attending a Gore rally in New Orleans 2 weeks before the 2000 election, right on the waterfront. How bittersweet those memories are now.

Mr. vice president, if you're thinking of running, you can count on my vote.

[ThatsMyBarack]

32. Who should run for VP w/Gore?

Any ideas?

[chimpymustgo]

33. Edwards - who it should have been in 2000.

How great would that be?

[ThatsMyBarack]

35. Perfect, I believe!

Hey, it's a step or two up fro what we've got now. ;)

[Autonomy]

36. Gore-Clinton '08!

[SharonRB]

38. You took the words out of my mouth

Maybe that's a way for Hillary to prove herself if she's willing to run as second banana.

[Scout1071]

40. No way. Try Gore/Clark 08.

Or Gore/Conyers.

[howmad1]

56. You bet Clark in 08'.

It was a Clinton that screwed Gore up in 2000. We don't need another Clinton screwing him up in 2008.

[drummo]

41. No way. Hillary supported the war.

Remember, the single issue that made Gore really really mad at Bush and his neocon buddies was Iraq.

He foresaw the coming disaster in 2002 what Hillary -- and other Hill Dems -- could not.
That's an enourmous difference.
Hillary has ZERO -- I repeat -- ZERO foresight. Nada.
She is the absolute un-Gore in that regard.

[Autonomy]

45. She had the foresight to realize that voting against a war

she could not stop had no political advantage. The people here on DU who will reject her for that will be greatly outweighed by the non-DUs who think "at least she has the guts to kill people for America!" Again, not that her vote counted.

[drummo]

48. Which tells a lot

about the quality of the American voters and about Hillary's
opportunism. Another reason why Gore would never pick her as his veep.

[drummo]

50. BTW she also had the foresight

to say months ago that the suicide bombings showed the insurgency was failing. That's what she said in Baghdad in the spring (!).
She is either and idiot or she wants to look like Dick Cheney.

[Autonomy]

51. I'll say this...

If Hillary, or Gore for that matter, were president in 2003, we would not be in Iraq right now. But I agree with you on the mentality of the average American voter.

[drummo]

64. That's true. We wouldn't be in Iraq.

But that's not an exuse for what Hillary did. Because she had the position she had in 2002. She was in the Senate. And she failed to use that position to challenge the Bush thungs. There were some who did it. Feingold or Wellstone but Hillary did not have the guts fearing that voting agains the resolution would hurt her chances in 2008. That's what it was all about. And it's inexcusable.
The Constitution is very clear about the Gongress and wars. That's what Senators should think about when the executive is pushing for a war. They should not think about their "image" and political career as Hillary did.

[mirror wall]

42. RE:Gore-Clinton '08!

That's an interesting proposition. Is that technically possible?

[Autonomy]

43. Yep, if the Clinton is Hillary.

[eleonora]

46. Obama- Clinton 08'

Now I'd vote for that!

[stickdog]

60. Dean, of course.

Just saying ...

[David Zephyr]

49. Al Gore. Man, I Miss This Guy.

Kick to the top for Al and Tipper.

[bvar22]

52. I attended when Gore came to St. Paul

The presentation was extremely well done. Gore was "in the zone". He is very passionate about this problem.


Al Gore and the "Blue Marble"
GOD, it would be great to have a "SMART" president!
How could so many people vote for the DUMB guy?



The Democratic Party is a BIG TENT, but there is NO ROOM for those who advance the agenda of THE RICH (Corporate Owners)
at the EXPENSE of LABOR and the POOR.

[drummo]

67. Man, I like that picture.

[ignatius 2]

53. Ah man,I want to live in Portland. It is a beautiful place,lots of

coffee and bookshoppes and the people are very caring and progressive.

Gore has been so passionate about the environment for a long time. Didn't the pukes make fun of him and his book during the pres. campaign?

[krkaufman]

55. "with a slide show heavy on charts and graphs"

The media just can't give Gore any respect. I hardly think that the charts and graphs are the most relevant info to relate to the public.

[hatrack]

63. Yes, graphs & charts - just like USA Today

And the problem with these graphs and charts would be . . . . ?

[Lisa]

66. how data visualization changed the world

It seems so obvious, to display information on a map (e.g. the location of people infected by cholera). But it wasn't at all obvious in the mid-1800s -- using graphics to analyze data and solve problems is one of the major advances of modern society.


http://www.gisdevelopment.net/application/health/overview/healtho0003pf.htm


This map is credited with having demonstrated the credibility of the "microbe" theory of disease transmission (until then, even a lot of doctors believed that cholera was caused by "breathing bad air"). Five people have died in the Gulf region so far, from related bacteria ... the total would be a lot higher, if we didn't know that the danger is in the water, not the air.

More info:
http://www.ph.ucla.edu/epi/snow.html



This 1861 graphic, showing the number of soldiers who died during Napoleon's invasion of Russia, was the forerunner of the figures used in USA Today and Time (and actually more sophisticated than most of them!). When it was first shown, the emotional impact (especially on people who actually remembered the Napoleonic wars) was likely similar to how we feel when we see the names on the Vietnam Memorial. The gold stripe represents the soldiers who started on the march to Moscow. The narrowing as we move to the right represents the deaths. The black stripe represents the retreat -- by the time the line returns to the starting position (in France), that's how many of the troops were still alive.



http://www.csiss.org/classics/content/58


And the man who drew this graph won the National Medal of Science. It's one of the figures used by former Vice President Gore in his presentation (when he first saw it, there was barely a decade of data). This graph told the world about global warming. What, if anything, we choose to do about it will shape the 21st century.



http://www.oar.noaa.gov/spotlite/archive/spot_jimomedal.html

[osaMABUSh]

59. I think that Bush will be so hated by '08 that Gore will have a shot

Kerry doesn't have snowball's chance but Gore '08 is starting to make sense. It won't be the dreaded "re-match" that we could have had in '04. People may realize that everything that Bush touched turned to shit while Gore's ideas are so opposite to Shrub's and make sense in these times. Back in 2000 when Gore 'conceded' he seemed to foreshadow a tiny bit that '00 wasn't necessarily the end of his political career. I think I sensed this during his '60 Minutes' interview at that time. The other thing is that more than half this country thinks they and Gore got screwed by the SOTUS and a Gore presidency in '08 would be sweet and historic justice. To come full circle a Gore/Clinton ticket would enable Bill Clinton's popularity with the American people (despite the Monica BS) to manifest as VP Hillary.