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Paragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 02:26 AM
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California comic (Dennis Miller) eyed for Senate
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20031019-115055-6362r.htm

If Arnold Schwarzenegger can be elected governor of California, can comedian Dennis Miller unseat Democratic Sen. Barbara Boxer?

Some Republicans in the Golden State think so, and quietly hope they can persuade the sharp political wit — and registered Santa Barbara Republican — to take on the liberal senator. Variety magazine reported this week that Mr. Miller has contacted California Republican consultants to feel out a campaign.

One California Republican political consultant called a Miller candidacy "sort of a cool idea," and a state party spokesman said Mr. Miller's recent exposure as a Republican is "a plus."
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LeighAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 02:32 AM
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1. I look forward to the debates
I wonder if Dennis can stay sober enough to make obscure references and tell bad jokes when faced with the issues...Did you ever catch his act on Maher, when placed amongst a panel of intelligent people?

By election day, people will have a better idea about what happens when you elect dumb right-wingers to offices just because they're celebrities, I think. Ms. Boxer probably should not worry too much, I wouldn't imagine.

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legin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 02:47 AM
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4. Mmmmm.....
Caligula had his horse made a Senator, so I suppose bush* can make his court jester one too.

Difficult to work out which is more irrational.
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skip fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 02:32 PM
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53. lovey, intelligent post
:toast:
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 03:56 AM
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9. Miller can't debate his way out of the wet paper bag his MD 20/20 came in.
I hate that fucker.

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bspence Donating Member (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 10:04 AM
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28. I DID see that, and Miller was horrible
He looked spaced out. I think he knew that he was in way over his head. His material is just SOO prepared and thought out in advance that I can't see him being able to talk off the cuff.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 10:08 AM
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29. No! tell me about it!
I have no use for Dennis Miller. He is insipid as they come.
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True_Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 08:30 PM
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65. Debates?
Repukes don't need to debate to win elections. Take Arnold for example.
Think Bush will debate against our Dem candidate? I'll bet he doesn't.
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JackSwift Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 02:39 AM
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2. Boxer will wipe the floor up with him
and it will be really ugly. She will campaign on a long career of helping people, he will campaign on what? Being an obnoxious asshole who has never done anything for anybody but himself?
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 11:02 AM
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36. Kind of like Ah-Nold huh?
Never say never. People only know what they see on TV and Dennis Miller has spent plenty of time on TV. He is demonstrably smarter than Bush* and Bush* is idolized by at least half of America. One third of "Democrats" are "Proud" of Bush* according to new Zogby Poll just out. :crazy:
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Loyal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 02:49 PM
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56. Those people aren't Democrats
They're Southerners, and the last time they voted for a Democrat for president was in 76 for Carter, and maybe even in 64 for LBJ.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 02:43 AM
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3. Sad that the only people thought to be "worthy:" of these high
offices anymore are cheap uneducated 2-bit actors and comedians. Says a very great deal about the decline of the quality of our lives.
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 07:50 AM
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17. What it speaks to is the decline
of the quality of the Republican Party.

Time was, it drew qualified candidates who were their own men and women. Now, it seeks meat puppets to turn the electorate into an audience, who will act as proxies for those who remain in shadows.
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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 10:02 AM
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27. Right
This may be the Republican strategy for the 21st century--win on celebrity and name-recognition, while having absolutely no substance. Then govern by committee and cabal. Bush himself has set the standard for this, I guess.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 10:30 AM
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31. However, they are actually being taken seriously by the public
and being voted in by the "majority". It is a general decline.

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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 10:46 AM
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34. I dislike the reference to "uneducated"
none of my grandparents were schooled past grade school and ALL of them were smarter than any g.d. republican I know of.
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jab105 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 02:36 PM
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54. and quite ironic.,..
since the republicans are the ones that say tht actors should stick to acting...

I guess actors should only stick to acting if they are democrats, huh??

Do they actually realize that they are hypocrites??
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Kat 333 Donating Member (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 02:48 AM
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5. lol
That's the only FUNNY thing Miller has come up with in the last 20 years.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 02:58 AM
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6. mr. tinyhands is developing some nervous behaviour that belies his conser-
vative leanings. i don't think he has the balls to pretend to be conservative, after all his liberal years.

weekend update: "Variety magazine reported this week that Mr. Miller has contacted California Republican consultants to feel out a campaign, but was told that his hands are, quote, 'too small to even feel up a campaign.' "
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 07:54 AM
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20. lol
tiny hands to tweak a tiny penis.

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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 10:47 AM
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35. STOP WITH THE "BALLS" REFERENCE, DAMMIT
it is INSULTING to insintuate a particular part of the MALE ANATOMY is required for COURAGE.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 11:57 AM
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37. To who?
LOL I'm j/k!
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northernsoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 01:43 PM
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46. fair 'nuff - let's use "spine" or "intestinal fortitude"
if that makes you feel any better
:-)

I've always maintained that most of "balliest" people I know are women and a lot of the toughest guys I know are "sissies".
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 02:47 PM
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55. uhh... he's a guy?
Edited on Tue Oct-21-03 02:48 PM by truthisfreedom
i think? seems relevant, but i'll certainly leave it out when speaking of small-handed female conservative ex-liberal SNL comics. 8^)
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 03:13 AM
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7. ROTFLMAO...
this is so ridiculous it is beyond belief, repukes must be pretty desperate if they would consider such a thing. :wtf: :crazy:
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Panda1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 03:22 AM
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8. ??"sort of a cool idea"??
I guess Hell finally froze over.
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Born Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 04:25 AM
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10. and in Florida the GOP is thinking Mickey Mouse
We did it in California, we can do it in Florida, politics is just another form of entertainment...so long as they are GOP, can't have any of those stupid, no good people like Jerry Springer tha tmay not agree with GOP policies and heaven forbid if people allowed the Dixie Chicks to speak out.... (just joking the GOP didn't really say it)


The sad part is the GOP is so good at using the entertainment system, they may end up taking over all the seats with entertainers that will follow orders.
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MurrayDelph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 01:49 PM
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48. Mickey can't run in Florida
1. He is a Democrat
2. He's from California

Murray
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 04:58 PM
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61. Mickey Mouse is passe...
The ideal Repuke nowadays would be Beavis & Butthead.



Q: So guys, how do you feel now that you're campaigning for the GOP?

A: Huh huh huh, Huh huh huh...you said "pee."



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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 06:11 AM
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11. when you control the voting software...you control the votes...period
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 06:18 AM
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12. Dennis Miller comic?
He's as funny as a malignant cancer.
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kysrsoze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 02:27 PM
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52. He used to be funny.....
until he decided to stop poking fun at stupidity in government and instead support it. Fuck him. I hope he's roasted in the process.
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union_maid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 06:20 AM
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13. Maybe they can move the Senate to the Friars' Club
If they keep doing this, we're going to have to draft liberal celebrities to run against them. This can work out. Out of work politicians can go to work for the entertainment industry to fill the roles left open by the celebrities who'll be running government.

What do you think Janine Garofolo would like to run for?
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lostnfound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 07:41 AM
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15. JG doesn't qualify (definitely not stupid enough)..
Perhaps we need to see this new trend for what it is..the devolution of US government to a figurehead for ceremonial functions (like the queen in England) with the real business being done by..well, business.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 07:40 AM
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14. Could the GOP find anybody LESS suited for public office?
Edited on Tue Oct-21-03 07:40 AM by baldguy
Bo Derek for Dept of Education? Ted Nugent for environmental protection? Ken Lay for, what FTC? SEC?

They could dig up Josef Mengele for Surgeon General.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 07:46 AM
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16. The GOP is going the celebrity route
Why not Charlton Heston for VP to replace Cheney? As Reagan showed, one does not need a brain for higher office!
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northernsoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 01:46 PM
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47. good ones, baldguy!
How 'bout Rush Limbaugh for Drug Czar?

Hell, let's have the DC Sniper be Secretary of Defense - my guess is he'd do a better job than Rummy.
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 07:51 AM
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18. Secretary of State Pauly Shore n/t
:eyes:
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 07:53 AM
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19. Figures. He's certainly stupid enough, mean enough and greedy
enough to be a Republican Senator. How they disgrace American governance! How much do you suppose he makes whoring for the Republicans?
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DivinBreuvage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 07:57 AM
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21. Just wait till they pull out the BIG guns...
GERALD McRANEY! ("Major Dad")

Françoise
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Gin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 07:58 AM
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23. That's one joke he made that is funny for a change...
Pathetic!
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 01:49 PM
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49. Don't forget Drew Cary
and Peter Freepton
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DivinBreuvage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 08:13 PM
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64. It's a shame, because I used to love his show...
But I guess one can expect only so much from a big dumpy white guy from Parma.

Françoise
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Fuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 07:58 AM
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22. Celebrities are only told to shut up if they are liberal . .
and ridiculed for not knowing anything because they are just 'actors'. If by chance they are conservative, they are elevated to leadership positions immediately. I just don't get how people don't see this duplicity.

:shrug:
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LibInternationalist Donating Member (861 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 08:01 AM
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24. Please tell me this has no chance of happening
-- that Boxer and Feinstein don't have the same crisis of popularity as Davis, etc.

Can you IMAGINE Dennis Miller on the floor of the US Senate? To paraphrase The Onion -- "Miller elected second horseman of the Apocalypse"
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 01:10 PM
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44. Miller has too much history of making
fun of right-wingers. In one of his stand-up acts that I've seen he totally made fun of Christians...said they had some form of "mental white-out" I believe. I'd love to see him run and then have that come out, totally alienate his core constituency.
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 01:28 PM
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45. I've been saying this all along
Edited on Tue Oct-21-03 01:29 PM by kskiska
He's got plenty of old comedy routines that can be run in ads.

Looks like Laura Ingraham's book, titled "Shut Up and Sing," was ill-timed. The entire premise, that celebrities should just do their thing and stay out of politics, is shot to hell with Arnold and now Miller.
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 08:12 AM
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25. Failed comic? Failed actor? Failed sports commentator?
Have we got a job for you ...
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 09:55 AM
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26. Yet failures rise to power in the Bush administration!!!
Add another evil doer to the ranks!!!
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 10:31 AM
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32. Don't forget failed businessman and C student
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 10:21 AM
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30. I know comparisons with the Nazis are often frowned upon,
but this bears some notice. Read the biographies of the major Nazi figures, and you'll see that they were the biggest collection of pathetic losers in history. Wasn't one of them who could have succeeded in a career outside of murderous power politics. Even Hermann Goring, who was a decorated WWI fighter pilot, degenerated into a fat, lazy slug. All the others never even got that far.

With the exception of Powell, who has prostituted his stars and medals for personal gain, none of the misadministration has ever posted some real achievements based on real merit.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 10:33 AM
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33. I would love to know exactly what in Powell's past
"With the exception of Powell, who has prostituted his stars and medals for personal gain, none of the misadministration has ever posted some real achievements based on real merit."

Rated any of this merit.
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stitz58 Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 12:07 PM
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38. you have got to be kidding.
:mad:
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 12:11 PM
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39. Well, he's the perfect repub: a smug, snide, selfish asshole
There's plenty of footage of him being a mega-creep that can be dug up to disgrace him. I think Lorne Michaels would be happy to license some doozies for us; he owns the rights.
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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 12:23 PM
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40. Celebrity civics...ok, Tim Robbins/Susan Sarandon for Gov. or Prez!!
Might as well have truly knowledgable celebrities for high office. And Janeane Garafalo (sp?) for Secretary of State.
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libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 12:31 PM
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41. Why do the Repubs love to vote for celebrities so much?
You don't see Democrats blindly following unqualified celebrities. The only Democratic "celebrity" who I can recall being elected is that guy from "Dukes of Hazzard" in some southern state. The repubs seem overly impressed with glamour and illusion. It's crazy.
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 01:02 PM
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42. i used to enjoy dennis miller
when he was an independent thinker ... who criticized the right as much as he did the left.

Then, he made a lot of money and, like so many others, lost his FRIGGIN' MIND and joined the other Repug fat cats.

I have no use for him. Eff him and the horse's ass he rode in on.

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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 02:52 PM
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57. Yup, me too.
But somewhere along the line he became a whore.
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trapper914 Donating Member (796 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 05:42 PM
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63. I think you give him too much credit.
He didn't lose his mind. Rather, I think he exploited an opportunity. Brilliant, when you consider that his career was on the wane (HBO show canceled, booted from MNF). I think he saw an opportunity to resurrect his career by being the right wing's comedian. Now he's being talked about for office? Talk about a career 180!

Still, I prefer the old Dennis, and unlike right wingers, I don't go immediately into hate mode when I see him. I still like James Woods and Kelsey Grammar...the actors. Try to find a conservative who can separate the work of Tim Robbins or George Clooney from their political stances.

I have to agree with the earlier post with regard to Dennis on Bill Maher...the other panelists ran circles around him...including failed politician Arianna Huffington.
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SayitAintSo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 01:08 PM
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43. You have GOT to be kidding me !
This really can't be happening ... This guy is a complete jerk. The only good thing this does is increase the viewership of CSPAN.... for a while.
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MurrayDelph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 01:52 PM
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50. It would never happen
At least Arnold was enough of an actor to play himself as
a lovable buffoon (which is what it seems the people want).

Miller is too much of an intellectual snob to pretend to either buffoonery or lovableness.

MurrayDelph

"The secret of the demagogue is to make himself as stupid as his audience so that they believe they are as clever as he." -- Karl Kraus
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GOPBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 02:15 PM
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51. hahahahaha
That's pretty funny. I hope he runs; he's make an ass out of himself.
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SOS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 04:17 PM
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58. Seems that huge quantities of alcohol
turns some liberals into Republicans. Charlton Heston, Dennis Miller, Christopher Hitchens...
If Cheney drops out in 2004, maybe Bush could run with Anna Nicole Smith?
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Lori Price CLG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 04:43 PM
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59. I have heard Miller's comments, he is a Reichwing maggot.
Dennis Miller is a sick, Reichwing maggot. A perfect tool for the RepubliNazis to push for their Corpra-terrorism state.

-Lori Price
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 04:47 PM
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60. Well,it certainly would be funny n/t
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cindyw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 05:33 PM
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62. ROTFLMAOAPIMP
ROTFLMAO and peeing in my pants.

:crazy:
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-21-03 08:33 PM
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66. True insanity
Damned near speechless.

But in Imperial Amerika, where War is Peace, Slavery is Freedom and Ignorance is Strngth, it wouldn't surprise me if it did happen.

Not much can surprise me anymore...
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