Source says Katrina `expose` [by Michael Moore] considered

[deadparrot]

LOS ANGELES, CA, United States (UPI) -- Filmmaker Michael Moore is considering a documentary critical of the U.S. government`s handling of hurricane Katrina, MSNBC reports.

'It has all the elements that made `Fahrenheit 911` such a powerful film,' a source told MSNBC`s 'The Scoop.' 'The political outrage, the human suffering and the incredible footage.'

Although there was no official comment from the Moore camp, MSNBC noted the filmmaker has been a vocal critic of government culpability on his Web site.

'There is much to be said and done about the manmade annihilation of New Orleans, caused NOT by a hurricane but by the very specific decisions made by the Bush administration in the past four and a half years,' he wrote. 'Do not listen to anyone who says we can discuss all this later. No, we can`t. Our country is in an immediate state of vulnerability. More hurricanes, wars, and other disasters are on the way and a lazy bunch of self-satisfied lunatics are still running the show.'

http://movies.monstersandcritics.com/news/article_1046989.php/Source_says_Katrina_%60expose%60_considered

[rurallib]

1. Would be great if he could get it out before 2006 elections

[Megahurtz]

2. Yeah! n/t

[Danieljay]

16. hey, yah! it worked real well with F 9-11!

Not to rain on your parade, but the spin tide is turning and I think he'll come out of this one too. When will Americans Wise up?

[Maraya1969]

20. Don't ever forget the voter fraud. That is one thing that HAS to be

taken care of before the next election. This president was not elected - EVER.

[Helga Scow Stern]

21. F911 was great. They stole the election.

[H5N1]

44. And they will steal elections in 2006 as well

nothing has changed... has it?

[drfresh]

40. Just what the heck can be done?

We've been saying this since 2000 and I've yet to see any action, except in California which is blue anyway. Its now or never..

[calimary]

48. Soooooooooo.... we admit defeat and just give up and stop trying?

Is THAT the way we should go? REALLY????

HELL NO!!!!!!!

Katrina Changes Everything!!! It's a body blow to this administration. The White House isn't NEARLY as resilient now as it might have been earlier, when the numbers were close enough so they COULD steal it. And not enough huge numbers of people were angry enough out in voter land. Now, they ARE. There's a HUGE "dark mood" as one of the stories described it among the American people. They're telling pollsters that things are NOT getting better, that we're off on the WRONG track (THAT has not improved, either, over several years of polling now - but it's only now that the media's begun to take notice of it). They're pissed about New Orleans.

Come September 24th and the big anti-war march in Washington, they're gonna be reminded of Cindy Sheehan and how more people got pissed about the war because she stood up and spoke out and put a human face on the opposition and actually got press attention for it. THAT was a blow to the White House, too, especially in the imperious, arrogant way they handled her. That story will reignite, too, and everyone who was already pissed, or had been awakened, will remember THAT outrage also.

We're at critical mass, guys. I submit that if Michael Moore DOES do a documentary about Katrina, it will have a FAR more powerful impact than "Fahrenheit 9/11" even did. The receptors are softened up now. A lot more has happened since, the body count from the war has gone up, the insurgency and other violence and terrorist recruitment has gone up even more, and it's an even more collosal and obvious failure now than ever before. Combine it with Katrina and this just might be the coup de grace we need.

GO MICHAEL MOORE!!!! YOU ABSOLUTELY, STUNNINGLY, ROCK!!!!!!!!!

[meganmonkey]

41. For the record, the 'voters' weren't the ones perpetrating fraud

in the last few elections. The only people accusing actual voters are the repukes, and they have failed every time. 'Election fraud', or even 'Vote fraud' seems more appropriate to me.

I hope I don't sound condescending about this, I realize I am mildly obsessed with this terminology :P

[Tesha]

43. Umm, never?

> When will Americans Wise up?

Umm, never?

It's clearly more important that Adam and Steve can't get hitched,
and that people with no income get tax cuts, and that even loons
be able to keep their six-shooters than it is that we keep any of
those folks alive.

Tesha

[Lindsay]

3. I say go for it.

Neeeds to be done - the shame cannot be forgotten or swept under the rug.

[freethought]

10. I second that!!

"Farenheit 911" was brilliant.

[Kire]

4. A Natural Choice

I just hope he's done with the HMO movie so he can get on with this project.

[Dr Fate]

5. He needs to put "Sicko" on hold and get started NOW.

I thought the "Sicko" movie sounded boring anyway.

Now THIS I'd like to see.

[stillcool]

6. The Pharmaceuticals and Insurance Co's...

collusion with government may be too big a story for a movie.

[Dr Fate]

7. Not "sexy" like that harlot Katrina.

n/t

[saigon68]

13. Cut to an obscene bloated floating body with no face at all, eyes missing

And the voice over of the chimp saying----

"BROWNIE, YOU'RE DOING ONE HELL OF A JOB"

[defiant1]

38. It would be 8 hours long....

and don't even ask about the director's cut.

:rofl:

[BeyondGeography]

8. Exactly right

The tie-ins with Iraq alone make this an obvious follow-up documentary to F/911. Health care is a snore in comparison.

[wanpete]

9. please. please michael. do it as only you can...we need to see this.

:cry:

[UCLA Dem]

11. How early next fall, right before midterms would be good.

[NYC Liberal]

12. The most damning part would be the pictures of

Bush on vacation eating cake and playing the guitar juxtaposed with the hurricane hitting NOLA.

I just hope MM doesn't do too much commentary and lets the images speak for themselves.

[Hissyspit]

17. Bush was at a fundraiser at a Gilded Age hotel the night of the hurricane.

He was at a fundraiser at a Gilded Age hotel the night of the hurricane...

[kath]

58. where was that, Hissy? I know he was in AZ eating cake with McCain on

Monday, then talking to the sailors & strummin' the guitar on Tuesday.

[Dr Fate]

14. He would have to give ALL profits to victims, and employ victims.

n/t

[Pacifist Patriot]

22. Wouldn't that be something?

[Dr Fate]

29. Check this out- I'll bet he does it.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4699460

[Danieljay]

15. self delete

[IndyOp]

18. Racism a key theme of F 9/11 --

I was just thinking today about the animation sequence by the guys who make "South Park" -- it argued that whites became attached to their guns because they were 'fraid of the freed slaves. The interweaving of racism and militarism has been going on for a very long time. I should go watch F 9/11 again - there is so, so much to it.

[kestrel91316]

25. That was Bowling For Columbine.

[IndyOp]

37. Thanks - feeling a little sheepish - it was BFC. ;-) (nt)

[Dem2theMax]

19. Fingers, toes, legs, arms, eyes crossed.

I love you Michael Moore.

[Blaq Dem]

23. Michael Moore needs to come up with a movie about Hurricane Katrina

and call it "Brain Dead: Loyal Bush Supporters Still Don't Get It"

[novak goes postal]

24. I can tell you I would love it if Michael Moore made this film...

[krkaufman]

26. Hope he hits on the underlying poverty/racism issue, too. n/t

[geek tragedy]

27. Bad idea. The criticism is only effective when it comes from people

who can be seen as somewhat objective.

The only people who listen to Michael Moore's sermons are in the choir already.

[Dr Fate]

28. But check this out- he will have good credentials:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4699460

I'll bet he is taking "banned" footage right now.

His images wont lie. I think it is a good idea. And more people than just DEM activists saw F-9/11- a lot of curiosity seekers & young people were turned on by F-9-11 at the theater.... Even more rented the DVD to "see what all the fuss was about."

[geek tragedy]

30. The problem is that Moore can never just let images speak for themselves--

he always has to turn it into a damn circus.

Michael Moore could help things most by keeping himself out of the story.

[Dr Fate]

31. Yup- he is indeed the P.T. Barnum of Politics. I've said that before.

Except the suckers are the Right Wing media who will once again give him all that free publicity. Once again, curiosity seekers will pay money to "see what all the fuss is about." And then they might learn somthing.

Unlike a lot of Democrats, he knows how to "fool" the media into promoting your "product."

Typical Moore will provoke & goad the bad guys & make everyone else think and even laugh.

[geek tragedy]

32. The problem is that Moore doesn't really convince anyone.

People--even liberals--assume that he's slanting the material. Because he does. He's a propagandist, not a real documentarian.

Most of the country is demanding accountability. We don't need Michael Moore to point out the obvious.

[Dr Fate]

33. Was F-9-11 the highest grossing news documentary of all time...

...or was it the overall highest grossing documenatary of any genre, of all time? Thats alot of tickets.

The real propaganda is what Moore refuted in F-9/11: Bush's BS.

I'll bet his facts in the new movie will expose even more Bush BS that the media ignores.

I'd love to see this movie- I hope he gets it out in a sooner rather than later.

[defiant1]

39. Well....

If it was obvious to everyone, he wouldn't need to point it out.

Get em Mike!

[RandomKoolzip]

46. "Slanting?" How?

It's all very easy to say that f9/11 was "all lies" or that Moore is a liar...it's harder to actually specify which facts in the film ARE lies.

What is slanted in F9/11? Give me more than one example, please.

[Bridget Burke]

49. Michael really scares the people who need to be scared.

And they never actually point out any of his "lies."

Churchill's Island (1941) - 22 min. - The first documentary Oscar was awarded to this short film which portrayed England's brave struggle against the Nazis during the Battle of Britain.

www.oscars.org/events/oscars_docs/

Documentaries have always included opinion. Historically, quite a few have actually qualified as propaganda. But propaganda for the good guys!

[geek tragedy]

52. His tinfoil nonsense about Afghanistan being about a pipeline

was a heap of bullshit.

And then there's the "James Bath's name was blacked out on Bush's military forms released by the government" conspiracy mongering--of course they were blacked out because of federal privacy laws, but Moore would never mention that.

[elmerdem]

51. propaganda

That is the point with Michael Moore. Do we let @#!! Rove use it and not use the same tactics? Most Americans are only moved by quick talking points. Michael Moore used that to our advantage in F9/11 & he must do it again. We can't let the Repukes be the only ones to use the most effective sway tactic. In fact, we must get off our asses and use it better than they do.

[geek tragedy]

53. The problem is that Moore doesn't have credibility with the people

who need to be persuaded.

Swing voters don't listen to Moore or Limbaugh.

[SoCalDem]

34. He needs to do this.. The "history" of the event will be hopelessly spun

and who knows what the history will end up being?? Documentarians may be our last hope.. At lease they can present verifiable facts, and at least it's on film for all time:)


Go Michael

[ngGale]

35. Good for Michael....

strike while the iron is hot, before the media smoothes it over for the sheeple.

[Judi Lynn]

36. Michael Moore's audience will probably grow by leaps and bounds

if he isn't Baxtered first. He communicates with people who have been watching right-wing politics since forever, and appreciate the one person who has something to say about it.

If there's finally any justice in the world to come, he will be joined by others. I fully believe it would suit him just fine, and I DON'T believe it's "all about Michael" whatsoever. What he's discussing through his work affects and upsets any people of conscience.

[demo dutch]

42. YES!!

[Tight_rope]

45. I can't wait....Haven't seen a good movie since the movie 9/11. n/t

[0007]

47. Goddamn I do hope Michael does another documentary.

911/F was great and didn't set to well with the douche bag freepers. Maybe the douche bag freepers will learn to love him after Katrina. I'm not holding my breath though.

[mod mom]

50. Perhaps MM can contrast how poor African Americans were treated in NO with

the long lines to vote during the election. this treatment wasn't an isolated case but a pattern of civil rights abuses at the greedy hands of the bu$h administration.

[Wordie]

54. Bad idea, imho. Moore is a satirist, who makes things FUNNY. This isn't.

[rustydad]

55. Moore might...

...add to the flavor of the left but the real outrage of this diabolical act by bush et al must come from the mainstream media. And that seems to be in the works. Bob

[Placebo]

56. I hope he doesn't decide to make this documentary.

I don't see how it would aid efforts toward reform any, as only political partisans like many here would go to see it on account of the 'Michael Moore' name being attached.

And like someone else already stated, that's just preaching to the choir.

Not to mention, the whenever a Democratic politician criticized the Republicans' or Bush's response to the Hurricane, you'd get the whole "this is the fringe left Michael Moore type talking" diversionary response, and we don't need that.

[Barkley]

57. I don't let anyone (especially Republicans) tell me who is fringe

left or right.

I decide for myself. Michael Moore is an award-winning filmaker.
If people on the right don't like his work then they don't have
to patronize it.