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MIMIC Donating Member (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:44 PM
Original message
CNN: "TIME: FEMA director's online bio contains false info"
Edited on Thu Sep-08-05 11:15 PM by MIMIC
It's on CNN right now.



http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1103003,00.html">TIME: How Reliable Is Brown's Resume?
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:47 PM
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1. "Brownie's doing a great false job!"
Busted!
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Donailin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:15 AM
Response to Reply #1
50. SAweeeeeeeeet!
:rofl:
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Jack from Charlotte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 09:34 AM
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101. Here's another lie Time's article failed to mention.....
in the White House press release of 2001, it says,

"From 1991 to 2001, Brown was the Commissioner of the International Arabian Horse Association, an international subsidiary of the national governing organization of the U.S. Olympic Committee."

People in that organization have said it is NOT ...." a subsidiary of the national governing organization of the US Olymic Committee...."

We need a pol to come out and question whether this guy or someone in the White house lied about his credentials..... probably a crime.... which resulted in many deaths. A criminal investigation should be demanded.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:49 PM
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2. Here's the TIME link --
Edited on Thu Sep-08-05 10:57 PM by DeepModem Mom
How Reliable Is Brown's Resume?
A TIME investigation reveals discrepancies in the FEMA chief's official biographies

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1103003,00.html
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 11:10 PM
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38. OMG! this is some of the best reading material I've seen
published in quite some time.

MUST READ the entire article!!!

Here are a couple of jewels:

Brown said "he's never claimed to be the director of the home. He was on the board of directors, or governors of the nursing home." However, a veteran employee at the center since 1981 says Brown "was never director here, was never on the board of directors, was never executive director. He was never here in any capacity. I never heard his name mentioned here."

and this one:

Brown's FindLaw profile lists a wide range of areas of legal practice, from estate planning to family law to sports. However, one former colleague does not remember Brown's work as sterling. Stephen Jones, a prominent Oklahoma lawyer who was lead defense attorney on the Timothy McVeigh case, was Brown's boss for two-and-a-half years in the early '80s. "He did mainly transactional work, not litigation," says Jones. "There was a feeling that he was not serious and somewhat shallow." Jones says when his law firm split, Brown was one of two staffers who was let go.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:17 AM
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85. Unbelievable! nt
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 11:19 PM
Response to Reply #2
48. It's a FELONY to falsify personal background information to the FBI.
To gain confirmation, he had to provide this information for an FBI background check. He did so "under penalty of perjury."

Throw the fucker in prison!
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:21 AM
Response to Reply #48
52. Ruuuuuuuuule of Laaaaaaaaw ...(bwaaaawk!!)
Perjury?????

At the very least he deserves an ankle bracelet, and confinement to his house...:)and NO yoga classes !!
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 07:18 AM
Response to Reply #52
69. what am I going to tell me children
:(
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 07:23 AM
Response to Reply #48
70. Wait a minute.
You mean the people hiring the FEMA director "forgot" to verify the facts on his resume? Who are they kidding?
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 07:52 AM
Response to Reply #70
76. Lieberman's committee approved "Brownie" on a voice vote in 42 minutes
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:16 PM
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127. Godammit - holy joe strikes again!
I hate that creature almost as much as bunkerboy more with every passing moment.

I wonder how many apologists will vote for him in the next elections?
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 10:44 AM
Response to Reply #70
109. They hire in the same way a fraternity accepts members.
If a candidate is sponsored by a current member, it seems to be enough. It's an exemplar of cronyisn. The record shows Brown's proponents regurgitating much of the same false background information that Time has identified. Somewhere in there there are perjury charges just waiting to be filed.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 11:08 AM
Response to Reply #109
112. Cronyism was behind Japan's economic collapse, as well.
:think:
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 11:43 AM
Response to Reply #112
117. Eventual collapse of the system isn't of concern to these people.
No more than the collapse of a village bothered the Vandals. It's the pillage motive. All we have to do is look in the wake of the careers of these folks, where the ruins of people and organizations lie scattered. They "harvest" their wealth from the labors of others and have absolutely no concern for the realities of their predation - merely the perception of that ruination which, if made clear to the public, might impede their opportunity to continue pillaging.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 11:52 AM
Response to Reply #117
118. Oh of course not...
and after the collapse, they'll get up even more booty as other more honest people will be selling at rock bottom prices.

Harvesting is a good word for what they're doing.
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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:13 PM
Response to Reply #109
124. I bet they regret giving Brownie the secret handshake.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:15 PM
Response to Reply #70
126. Hey he's a repuke & a friend of AWOL bunkerboy - who cares about
anything else, right?
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ktowntennesseedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 06:57 PM
Response to Reply #48
132. Yeah, just ask Jeff Gannon!
They sure did throw the book at him!!! :sarcasm:

By the way, isn't is also a felony to falsify information to the American people? I'm not sure if we have a prison big enough for all the guilty parties on that one, but hell, we can always shove the whole lot into the Superdome, maybe a week or so before we tear it down?
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:31 AM
Response to Reply #2
88. that's de rigeur for these folks, Look at BU$H's resume?!!
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:09 PM
Response to Reply #2
121. Edmonds OK.. population, 68,315, White folks..86%, Black folks..4%
I couldnt find it on my maps
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:49 PM
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3. The whole crime family has a phoney bio. Starting with
junior. So why does this shock anyone.

Does junior have the balls to fire an old crony of a crony?

"Your doing one heck of a job Brownie"
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 07:52 AM
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75. bttft
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:55 PM
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4. Also on CNN tonight: Someone has already spent the first $10B
that Congress appropriated a week ago. I swear I am not mistaken. It is already GONE.
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ninkasi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:36 AM
Response to Reply #4
56. Whoa! Already gone?
Might want to check payments to oh, say, Halliburton, maybe?
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:52 AM
Response to Reply #4
60. bad feeling about this...
remember, they are cornered rats now.

you can guarantee that they will line their pockets "big time" before being run out of town on a rail. if this country is not now bankrupt, it will be very shortly. the emperor has no clothes and the sheeple are now seeing it. now is the time to be very afraid:(
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 01:08 AM
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62. One more pork barrel to the monsters. Just like Iraq, just like these:
Edited on Fri Sep-09-05 01:10 AM by Nothing Without Hope
Transportation BIll, just like the Social Security scam they are still planning to sneak through. And how much will go to the wealthy people? After all, their homes and furniture are very, very valuable, right? And they're the IMPORTANT people, the GOP donors who count.

THIS TIME, WILL SOMEONE PLEASE GUARD THE MONEY????? WHERE IS THE ACCOUNTABILITY? Where did the 10 billion go?

These two scandals are small change, as these things go, but but they show what's coming unless the greedy criminals in power are watched and exposed. Note that they are both in Jebbie's state. Both and more are in this thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4699243
thread title: Holy Shit!!!! Please read this (just mentioned by Randi)

(This story is at DU link above)
Probe sought into questionable aid to Miami-Dade 'hurricane victims'

Three Florida members of Congress on Monday called for investigations into how the federal government awards disaster aid and why at least 9,800 Miami-Dade applicants have received more than $21 million in Hurricane Frances assistance even though the storm inflicted little damage in the county.

FEMA director says agency looking into Miami-Dade claims
As Hurricane Frances moved ashore over the Treasure Coast last month, the federal government declared Miami-Dade County a disaster area eligible for individual aid even though the storm's outer bands barely had touched the county.

Miami-Dade FEMA claims high in poor areas
HOMESTEAD -- The manager of a check-cashing store in this southern Miami-Dade city says he has cashed as many as 30 disaster relief checks a day for residents since Hurricane Frances hit Florida on Labor Day weekend.

State to pay $60 million share of hurricane aid
The state will pay more than $60 million as its share of federal hurricane assistance to Floridians but has no control over how the money is spent or who gets it.

(snip)



And then there is this one. Hey! Lots of big money in funeral arrangements, as anyone who has dealt with them has discovered. Why not pad it a bit for a pal...

(also at the DU link above)

Chief coroner warns of more FEMA waste on funeral overpayments

Despite assurances from federal officials that they will change the way they award disaster funeral assistance, taxpayer money will likely still be wasted, Florida's chief medical examiner predicted Thursday.

After last year's hurricanes, the Federal Emergency Management Agency paid funeral expenses for more than 200 Floridians who died of cancer, AIDS, heart disease and other causes that had nothing to do with the storms, medical examiners found. FEMA announced a new policy last week tightening up some of its procedures but continues to allow family doctors to link deaths to a disaster.

"Nothing's changed," said Dr. Stephen Nelson, head of Florida's Medical Examiners Commission. "We'll be back to many more deaths than what we're counting as hurricane-related."

Meeting on Key Biscayne on Thursday, the commission announced preliminary results of its review of 306 of the 319 deaths resulting in FEMA payments. They found more than 200 cases that were not caused by the storms.As the South Florida Sun-Sentinel reported Wednesday, FEMA paid cremation expenses for a Charlotte County man who died of liver cirrhosis five months after Hurricane Charley and for a Palm Beach Gardens heart patient who left an estate worth $2 million.

(snip)


This is only the beginning. Our old friend former FEMA head and chief gutter, Allbaugh, has set up shop and is ready to cash in too:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1762775
Former FEMA chief Allbaugh in the middle

Joseph Allbaugh, a lobbyist who was President Bushs emergency-management chief and campaign manager, represents several clients who could reap financial rewards as the federal government spends billions of dollars to clean up New Orleans in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.

After departing as the director of the Federal Emergency Management Agency in 2003, Allbaugh and his wife, Diane, founded the Allbaugh Group. Kellogg Brown & Root (KBR), a subsidiary of Halliburton, hired the firm earlier this year, as did the Shaw Environmental Group, according to Senate lobbying disclosure records.
....
Allbaughs wife represents Trade-Winds Environmental Restoration Inc., of Long Island, N.Y., and MLU Services, a company based in Athens, Ga., that specializes in removing debris after disasters.

Allbaugh flew to the Gulf Coast last week. His spokeswoman, Patti Giglio, said he went to coordinate private-sector relief, but did not give specifics.

(snip)


Hey, what's a little blatant conflict of interest between buds? Makes the Bush world go round.
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MissB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 10:28 AM
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107. Yes, of course they have. They've been doing part of their job right.
FEMA has awarded contracts for infrastructure repair- I know of one firm that has received a huge multi-million dollar contract. They're also awarding contracts for sampling of houses in the disaster areas to see if they will be habitable again.

They *have* to move fast in some cases. While FEMA was struggling with getting food and water to the people stuck in New Orleans, some part of FEMA was concentrating on figuring out how to clean it all up and let people back in.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:56 PM
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5. He was an INTERN, not a manager. But very PUNCTUAL!
snip>
Before joining FEMA, his only previous stint in emergency management, according to his bio posted on FEMA's website, was "serving as an assistant city manager with emergency services oversight." The White House press release from 2001 stated that Brown worked for the city of Edmond, Okla., from 1975 to 1978 "overseeing the emergency services division." In fact, according to Claudia Deakins, head of public relations for the city of Edmond, Brown was an "assistant to the city manager" from 1977 to 1980, not a manager himself, and had no authority over other employees. "The assistant is more like an intern," she told TIME. "Department heads did not report to him." Brown did do a good job at his humble position, however, according to his boss. "Yes. Mike Brown worked for me. He was my administrative assistant. He was a student at Central State University," recalls former city manager Bill Dashner. "Mike used to handle a lot of details. Every now and again I'd ask him to write me a speech. He was very loyal. He was always on time. He always had on a suit and a starched white shirt."
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:59 PM
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27. All the little piggies, in their starched white shirts. n/t
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:07 PM
Response to Reply #27
120. You can find the little piggies playing in the dirt
always have clean shirts to play around in.

Ok, when did George Harrison meet Colson? (colson to Atwater to Rove)
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 11:06 PM
Response to Reply #5
32. I love it "He always had on a suit and a starched white shirt"...
And I thought damning with faint praise was a lost art.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 11:17 PM
Response to Reply #32
45. Indeed
:rofl:
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 07:41 AM
Response to Reply #32
71. "Salaried and Collar-Scrubbing"
Loyal, and he always ate all his lunch and put his nap mat away neatly, too.
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Dulcinea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 05:38 AM
Response to Reply #5
67. "He was very loyal."
That says it all.

Loyalty over competence, just like the mob.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 07:54 AM
Response to Reply #67
77. No, actually the mob desires competence as well
So do the Bushies. You have to be competent at looting the treasury. You don't have to be competent at governing, since that's not their main purpose anyway. They're stealing first and foremost. The governing part is just the smokescreen for the suckers, so that can be thin at times.
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Tight_rope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:59 AM
Response to Reply #77
97. Bingo!...You are so right...
Bushco would never fire someone who is great at lying, stealing, and killing. Because if that were the case none of them would be part of the gang.

You have to hand it to them. Bushco has the best liars, thieves and murderers on their team.
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 09:26 AM
Response to Reply #5
99. So, back then he didn't show Wednesday after a Monday disaster. nt
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dooner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:56 PM
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6. Fema Director's Online Bio contains false info (CNN, Breaking)
Edited on Thu Sep-08-05 10:46 PM by dooner
On CNN (Aaron Brown) right now.

Michael Brown has false info on his bio per Time Magazine. Reported on CNN.






edited to fix typo and add name.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:56 PM
Response to Reply #6
7. I'm watching it; lots of false info!!!!!
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dooner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:56 PM
Response to Reply #7
10. Can you say specifics?
I missed the details.. just caught the end.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:56 PM
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8. Info please
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drhilarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:56 PM
Response to Reply #6
9. Could someone provide a fill-in for folks not near a tv?
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:56 PM
Response to Reply #9
18. yeah
his bio says he was a director of a nursing home in OK and no one they interviewed at the home knew him.

Also in OK he said he was an asst city mgr with some emergency mgmt work or experience and he was really an asst. to the mgr and apparently with no work or experience in emergency management. This was in the late 70s for about 3 years. Can't remember the city's name in OK but it wasn't Tulsa.

Some other stuff too. This was the Aaron Brown show and he was interviewing a Time Magazine reporter. The telephone call was not the clearest line, a bit muffled.
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drhilarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:56 PM
Response to Reply #18
22. thank you.
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:56 PM
Response to Reply #18
24. oh gee whizzzzz
Now he can be fired for being a liar. Too bad they don't FIRE THE WHOLE LOT OF THEM FOR BEING THE SAME EXACT THING! :grr:

Why am I NOT surprised.

Can you say convenient "fall-guy". And how many American citizens have died, how many? HOW MANY!??? :grr:

:kick:
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 11:08 PM
Response to Reply #24
35. there's more, read the link for Time at the bottom of the thread
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 11:10 PM
Response to Reply #18
39. He said he was a professor, but...no!
snip>
However, Brown "wasn't a professor here, he was only a student here," says Charles Johnson, News Bureau Director in the University Relations office at the University of Central Oklahoma (formerly named Central State University). "He may have been an adjunct instructor," says Johnson, but that title is very different from that of "professor." Carl Reherman, a former political science professor at the University through the '70s and '80s, says that Brown "was not on the faculty." As for the honor of "Outstanding Political Science Professor," Johnson says, "I spoke with the department chair yesterday and he's not aware of it." Johnson could not confirm that Brown made the Dean's list or was an "Outstanding Political Science Senior," as is stated on his online profile.

http://www.time.com/time/nation/printout/0,8816,1103003,00.html
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anitar1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:20 AM
Response to Reply #18
51. The town was Enid , Population, 45,000. n/t
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blitzen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:56 PM
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11. Rove must have leaked this n/t
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U4ikLefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:56 PM
Response to Reply #6
12. He claimed to be a college professor, and served as the chairman
Edited on Thu Sep-08-05 10:48 PM by U4ikLefty
of some kid of Christian nursing home. Both are apparently false. I'll try to find a link.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:56 PM
Response to Reply #12
21. yeah that was another one and the school said he wasn't a prof
hahahaha
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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:56 PM
Response to Reply #6
13. A bit of Sacrificial Lamb served by Rove...so transparent.
Rove has played out his hand, he is so old news....maybe he's got nothing left. TDS made me happy, this sort of thing makes me happier. Hope is a great thing.
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dooner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:56 PM
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14. Here's the link to the Time story!
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drhilarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:56 PM
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17. Thanks.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:56 PM
Response to Reply #6
15. "Brownie's doing a great false job!"
Guess he's busted?
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:56 PM
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23. No he's not....Be fair
He's doing a piss poor job. What a miserable failure, just like his boss.

Will someone please tell me how on earth someone who couldn't even make it in the horsing business, is qualified to head FEMA?

Just explain it to me, please!
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 11:00 PM
Response to Reply #23
28. Well, no Arabian horses died in the disaster!
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donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 11:02 AM
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110. Let me take a whack at it
See, this piss poor performer is qualified to be promoted into true incompetency because well, apparently, he in some way helped the mobster in the White House get there. See? So, it's really no skin off Cheney's nose if FEMA is a disaster because... well, is it really a coincidence that the head of the corporate defense industry showed up in New Orleans AFTER the $52 Billion? I don't think so. So, really disaster isn't failure, so Brownie's doing a bang-up job.
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bribri16 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:56 PM
Response to Reply #6
16. Hell, the bio for the head of Homeland Security contains no information.
Wonder why?
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:32 AM
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90. they're still mad because they could have cheatin' Bernie!
so, no resumes for the hoi polloi to examine.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:56 PM
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19. Here's the TIME link --
How Reliable Is Brown's Resume?
A TIME investigation reveals discrepancies in the FEMA chief's official biographies

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1103003,00.html
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 05:28 AM
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66. Did you note the cover?
It should be titiled "America's Shame".
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:19 AM
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86. I didn't, but just looked at it, and it is powerful. Thanks! nt
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Lindsay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:56 PM
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20. Hmm, when did Time start getting into
investigative journalism?

:sarcasm:
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 11:00 PM
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30. who knows... but I hope they keep doing it
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:56 PM
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25. You mean Bush lied to us?
Surprise Surprise
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 10:56 PM
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26. He was the Horse's Ass., until they removed it.
The FindLaw profile for Brown was amended on Thursday to remove a reference to his tenure at the International Arabian Horse Association, which has become a contested point.
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 11:00 PM
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29. Yes, but it's never truly gone from the internet:
...thanks to the wayback machine at Archive.org. :)
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yorkiemommie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 11:04 PM
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31.  Down the memory hole, eh?

how Orwellian of them.
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Blaq Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 11:07 PM
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33. So what. It's normal for the Bush administration to be liars...
That's what make Brownie qualified for the job.
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 11:08 PM
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34. kick
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 11:08 PM
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36. OMG, how pathetic
Talk about "padding" the resume. He turned intern jobs into management positions, made such an impact at one job that no one remembered him and turned himself into an award-winning Professor when he had merely been a student.

He should be fired for this alone, let alone heading an entire government agency and screwing up this bad.

As for vetting him, Allbaugh should be prosecuted for fraud.
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demgrrrll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:23 AM
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53. I am incredulous that someone actually did some investigative reporting
Or did they? I always wonder with these guys. I wonder if they decided to to send the press in another direction. On the other hand giving him the boot him seems to put a spotlight on them. I don't know.
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leftupnorth Donating Member (657 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 11:09 PM
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37. Sacrificial Lamb
ala Rove.

He's Toast.

Anyone have some mint jelly?
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 11:11 PM
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40. This is Good News: Reject "Fall Guy" Defeatism and keep pushing!!!
It may be true that this is a Rovian ruse designed to fire him for other reasons. That doesn't matter in the least bit. Rove can make a move after being forced into it, and we can keep forcing.

The facts are clear: Bush is on record defending Brownie, and several people on the ladder upwards would have to answer for his being in charge. Let them pull this out. Keep pushing to get Brown fired, and when he is fired, start pushing harder on Chertoff and Bush.

Why wasn't the head of FEMA properly vetted? Are we to believe that the Department of Homeland Security can't vet its own director of emergency management? Why was Brown in this position in the first place? The trail leads directly to Bush politicizig of federal agencies and outright cronyism - stick that to Bush.

And again, as I've argued before, the spinmeisters of the right have been on overdrive arguing that the feds have zero culpability. Firing Brown would signal some culpability, and that's a huge opening. It will also have the effect of throwing their spin into disorder. Everytime they say "Buses!," you say "But Bush fired the unqualified FEMA guy who lied on his resume!" Kaput. Finito. The argument is over. Continue writing your reps and senators for the head of Michael Brown. He's the first domino, the weak support for this whole house of cards. Keep pushing!
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Secular Agent Man Donating Member (229 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 11:11 PM
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41. Mr. Brown you've got a not-so lovely resume...
Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out.
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ailsa Donating Member (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 11:14 PM
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44. BWAHAHAHA!! Good one. Herman's Hermits, yes?
:rofl:
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Secular Agent Man Donating Member (229 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:49 AM
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58. Yep, ol' Peter Noone & Co. BTW, welcome to DU
:hi:
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 11:12 PM
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42. Sweet.
Another repuke bites the dust!


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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 11:14 PM
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43. Another "Christian" who seems to have serious trouble with that pesky old
Commandment about not bearing false witness...
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 11:17 PM
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46. This Brown guy must be the one that taught Bush to make the horses!
LOL.
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freethought Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-08-05 11:18 PM
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47. Holy Cow! It's the WMD/iminent threat tactic all over again
"He never said he was this! He never said he was that! We never said Iraq was an iminent threat!" Does it ever end?
I am curious to see how this is going to go over.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:24 AM
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54. "Fawlty Intelligence"...starring Basil Fawlty aka Michael Brown
:)

of course it's not the time for pointing fingers or ascribing blame.. :P
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:15 AM
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49. Smoked.
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Lindacooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:35 AM
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55. Well, we've always known they are fucking liars.
About time the MSM reported it.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:49 AM
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57. Where's the Pool on what time he's fired
I'll put my money on 8PM Friday.

Scotty's WH Press Briefing ought to be real fun Friday! It's going to be a feeding frenzy!
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:52 AM
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59. Yup. This should be the end.
But, remember- Bush hired this guy.

We need to tie Bush as CLOSELY AS WE POSSIBLY CAN to him.

How long have they known each other?
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jwcomer Donating Member (177 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 10:20 AM
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106. He will keep his job.
I'm in for February of 2009. Anything else would be an admission of a mistake, which would backfire on Bush. This is most definitely not Rove's MO. Rove would (likely will) leak this about someone of the state or local level. If Rove were to leak this on the federal level it would be about someone below Brown.

I repeat firing Brown will be a tacit admission of failure on the federal level. Something which is not going to happen. Brown will get medals after the Great Katrina Committee Whitewash.
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Francine Frensky Donating Member (870 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:34 PM
Response to Reply #106
129. They will "reassign" him quietly, still publicly supportive, and
then you are right about Feb. of 2009.

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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:58 AM
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61. * knew Brown was doing a horrible job
when he went to NO,and then promptly refused help from all over the WORLD, including the United States of America. Nice try CNN. It was still *'s fault.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 01:14 AM
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63. I wonder how long the reporters have known this. Are they only now daring
to bring out this information? Have they been sitting on it, or are they now beginning to actually investigate at long last so this is new?

Also see the three stories from other threads showing the early stages of corruption with FEMA money. In this upthread post:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1765604#1765845
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willing dwarf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 02:33 AM
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64. Just like his Boss!
There's little surprise about this, since we know that Bush's resume is also riddled with half truths. Remember his stint w. the Texas Air National Guard??

Liars & thieves take comfort in the company of fellow liars & thieves.
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 04:36 AM
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65. If they did this for Brown, what about others placed in jobs by the Bush?
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 05:53 AM
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68. Good point and worth delving into.
If only political cronies got jobs, who knows what their backgrounds are. "Management" could mean "headed the breakfast team at McDonald's."
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nookiemonster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 07:43 AM
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72. That's pretty much the $10,000 question, isn't it?
Where else have they placed these inept fuckers?
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complain jane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 07:45 AM
Response to Reply #65
73. And how credible does Bush look - after his "great job Brownie"
line?

Would anybody ever trust that asshat's word again?

I mean, we all already knew this, of course, but just sayin'...
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:15 PM
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125. Nah, he'll just play dumb as usual
"The president didn't know ANYTHING about Brownie's lies on his resume, looking into it, blah, blah, president demands accountability, blah, blah, disappointed, blah.....
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 07:51 AM
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74. False Info??? That's polite.......IT'S CALLED LIES!!!
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Jim__ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 07:55 AM
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78. He always had on a suit and a starched white shirt
From a Reuters article:

"Mike used to handle a lot of details. Every now and again I'd ask him to write me a speech. He was very loyal. He was always on time. He always had on a suit and a starched white shirt," Dashner told Time.

Kind of says it all.

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oneighty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:27 AM
Response to Reply #78
87. And then Dashner added;
"You will be lucky if you can get this guy to work for you."

I made that up.

180
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are_we_united_yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 07:58 AM
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79. Check the typewriter font
we know thats all that matters
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Lost4words Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:02 AM
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80. The only qualifications he needs is he is a rePuke
and a contributor. We dont need qualifications, starts at the top of the GOP.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 09:27 AM
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100. More than a contributor, a big-time FUNDRAISER
He collected buckets of cash from others--that was his real talent.
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Jon8503 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:08 AM
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81. Report: FEMA chieffs bio overstates experience
Edited on Fri Sep-09-05 08:05 AM by Jon8503
City that hired him says he was more like an intern, Time reports

Brown's biography on the Federal Emergency Management Agency Web site says he had once served as an "assistant city manager with emergency services oversight," and a White House news release in 2001 said Brown had worked for the city of Edmond, Okla., in the 1970s "overseeing the emergency-services division."

However, a city spokeswoman told the magazine Brown had actually worked as "an assistant to the city manager."

Story continues below
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9266986/
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:08 AM
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82. padded resume
who would have guess that :grr:

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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:08 AM
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83. yeah and his bio for gov't website was written by Rove
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:08 AM
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84. it was written by Rove
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:33 AM
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91. in fact, this whole thing reeks of Rove...the leaked memo, the
Edited on Fri Sep-09-05 08:33 AM by Lerkfish
stories on the faked resume, etc.

They are setting Brown up to take the ENTIRE fall and distract from Bush's incompetence.

Not to support Brown, who is certainly incompetent, but he's being set up by his own to fall on the sword.

(corrected grammer...bah! where's my coffee!)
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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:31 AM
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89. Kind of like Chimpy's National Guard service.
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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:41 AM
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92. "They will dip him in bronze and give him out as an award"
according to Jon Stewart.

I am sure that Mr. Brown will receive the highest honors that this administration can bestow on a citizen.

"You're doin' a heck of a job, Brownie!"
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Tight_rope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:43 AM
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93. Not surprised...he is part of the "Good Ole Buddy Network"! n/t
Edited on Fri Sep-09-05 08:44 AM by Tight_rope
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:46 AM
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94. what? you mean repukes lie?
who knew?
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Plaid Adder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:51 AM
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95. He's not just padding...he's makin' shit up!
I mean I've seen people pad...but to claim you got an award for being an outstanding professor at a place where you were never on the faculty? Jesus Christ!

What other fun stuff is going to come out about this asshole? I can't wait!

The Plaid Adder
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ernstbass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 09:36 AM
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102. Don't ya love the use of the word "padding"
instead of LYING?
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MyNameGoesHere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 08:59 AM
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96. Maybe this is Turd Blossom leak
but it still does not get the people who confirmed this POS off the hook. This is a direct result of "our" Dem reps bending over and letting the current regime run rough shod over America. They ALL should be held accountable, they through negligence have killed people.
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Boo Boo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 09:26 AM
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98. Just shows you how completely derelict Bush really is.
Edited on Fri Sep-09-05 09:27 AM by Boo Boo
Bush appoints Allbaugh, his 2000 campaign director, head of FEMA. Allbaugh gives "Brownie" a job. Allbaugh oversees the privatizing of various FEMA functions and then quits, getting his beholden buddy Brown appointed head of FEMA.

Allbaugh is now a consultant, helping businesses get contracts with FEMA. He's in LA right now. Brown is his inside guy. He virtually guarantees that Allbaugh can deliver the goods, making Allbaugh the go-to guy if you want those contracts.

So far there's about 50 billion dollars up for grabs.
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donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 11:13 AM
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113. Ooh, I knew that behind the inept crony looking for a political payola
would be the real BFEE. The Allbaugh rathole is probably where the money is. Rove has served up this pathetic, mobster-wannabe as the distraction. Where did all that FEMA and Homeland Security money go, anyway?
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 09:37 AM
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103. Link to transcript of Brown's Confirmation Hearing (June 2002)
Edited on Fri Sep-09-05 09:40 AM by Roland99
http://www.voluntarytrade.org/downloads/Brown_ConfirmHrg.pdf (PDF)

I haven't had time to pore over that document to see what other lies might be in it.
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ColonelTom Donating Member (415 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 09:56 AM
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104. Just looked through the PDF very quickly
At a very quick glance:

Sen. Allard, in his endorsement of Brown for the position, acknowledges that Mr. Brown was an adjunct professor (not full professor). His questionnaire (Appendix A) states that he was "Assistant City Manager" for Edmond from 1975-78. His own statement of qualifications for the position (again in Appendix A) does not rely heavily on his tenure as Assistant City Manager for Edmond.

If I had to guess, at least most of the misrepresentations and exaggerations on the government web site are probably the result of an overzealous P.R. person, not Mr. Brown.

The real scandal is, why didn't anyone question this guy's qualifications for the position based on the information he himself submitted? Why was he getting the ass-kissing treatment from both sides of the aisle?
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 10:07 AM
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105. Post-9/11 fear-mongering during the mid-term elections.
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 10:36 AM
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108. perhaps it's time to take a look at everyone's resume
on *'s team.
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donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 11:15 AM
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114. Maybe the press should start at the top and work down nt
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txaslftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 11:04 AM
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111. Is he still a licensed attorney somewhere?
This stuff would make a great ethics complaint with the bar.
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Gyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 11:16 AM
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115. dipsh*ts of a feather flock together.
We tried to expose shrub but his teflon diaper protected him. It's open season on Brown however. Better one than none!


Gyre
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 11:23 AM
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116. apparently he's not the only one
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/08/AR2005090802165.html

Leaders Lacking Disaster Experience
'Brain Drain' At Agency Cited

By Spencer S. Hsu
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, September 9, 2005; Page A01

Five of eight top Federal Emergency Management Agency officials came to their posts with virtually no experience in handling disasters and now lead an agency whose ranks of seasoned crisis managers have thinned dramatically since the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

FEMA's top three leaders -- Director Michael D. Brown, Chief of Staff Patrick J. Rhode and Deputy Chief of Staff Brooks D. Altshuler -- arrived with ties to President Bush's 2000 campaign or to the White House advance operation, according to the agency. Two other senior operational jobs are filled by a former Republican lieutenant governor of Nebraska and a U.S. Chamber of Commerce official who was once a political operative.

(more...)
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JustSayNO 2 Sheeples Donating Member (142 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:04 PM
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119. I think Brown is doing good. He should not lose his job
After all, he's just the type that would rat out Bu$h to try and save his ass if he becomes the sacrificial lamb. To say the least, that would be terrible, not keepin' his mouth shut.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:10 PM
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122. if you look at the Time article,.. greatist quality is Loyalty.. Thats why
he got the job...
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:12 PM
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123. BREAKING: Brown removed, MSNBC
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Bushknew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:29 PM
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128. Assistant * TO* the city manager / The Office

Im a big fan of the TV show the Office and I just cant stop laughing at the fact that
Brown was actually "assistant to the city manager" and not manger.

If you watch the show, you know that its a recurring punch line.

ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1103003,00.html

" The White House press release from 2001 stated that Brown worked for the city of Edmond, Okla., from 1975 to 1978 "overseeing the emergency services division." In fact, according to Claudia Deakins, head of public relations for the city of Edmond, Brown was an "assistant to the city manager" from 1977 to 1980, not a manager himself, and had no authority over other employees.
"The assistant is more like an intern," she told TIME.
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Imalittleteapot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 03:42 PM
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130. Bet Bush is glad to see this news. Now
he won't accept blame for hiring Brown -- the guy that provided false information.
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ticapnews Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 06:51 PM
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131. A possible preview of RW talking points...
http://newsbusters.org/node/1073

In keeping with trying to figure out which Republican is to blame for Katrina, TIME has launched an in-depth "investigation" into FEMA Chief Mike Brown's online resumes. While accusing Brown of both padding his resume and having no emergency management expience prior to becoming FEMA head, TIME simply doesn't acknowledge his work as having "served as FEMA's Deputy Director and the agency's General Counsel. Shortly after the September 11th terrorist attacks, Mr. Brown served on the President's Consequence Management Principal's Committee, which acted as the White House's policy coordination group for the federal domestic response to the attacks." Nor does TIME mention his handling of some 150+ handling of other declared disasters and emergencies prior to Hurricane Katrina and the job he did. But on to what TIME does find important:

TIME's Smoking Gun #1: One profile listed Brown's position in the late 70's as having been an "assistant city manager with emergency services oversight" while a second profile left out the "assistant city manager" part. A TIME investigation revealed that, courtesy of a current Edmond, Oklahoma public relations manager, that he was actually an "assistant to the city manager."


In college I was an assistant to the head coach for one of the nation's top hockey programs. Could I get away with saying I was "Assistant Coach" rather than "Assistant to the Coach?" These are two entirely different jobs...

TIME's Smoking Gun #2: Was Brown a "Professor" or an "Adjunct Instructor?" An online profile also listed Brown as having received an award for "Outstanding Political Science Professor." Certainly, such an award can come from any campus organization or club, or even non-campus entity. TIME focuses their attention on the word "professor" in an award in order to prove that Brown has beefed up his resume, because as most people know, citing an award for "Outstanding Political Science Professor" is the way to do that.

It's such a minor lie that it really shouldn't count. Of course, an award claiming you were an outstanding professor would add quite a bit of weight to your resume. Just stating you are a professor, when you aren't, adds weight. I was student in college, so it must be OK for me to say I was an outstanding professor at that college...

TIME's Smoking Gun #3: Mike Brown says he was a laywer who worked in such "areas of legal practice, from estate planning to family law to sports." But a guy who worked with him for 2 1/2 years in the early 1980's fully discredits that

"However, one former colleague does not remember Brown's work as sterling. Stephen Jones, a prominent Oklahoma lawyer who was lead defense attorney on the Timothy McVeigh case, was Brown's boss for two-and-a-half years in the early '80s. "He did mainly transactional work, not litigation," says Jones."


Of course, he cut short the last quote "There was a feeling that he was not serious and somewhat shallow." Jones says when his law firm split, Brown was one of two staffers who was let go. He also leaves out some of the more laughable quotes about Brown's work history, like how he was always punctual. When the best thing you can say about someone is that they were punctual (and wore nice white shirts) you're desperate.

TIME's Smoking Gun #4-5: Was Brown involved with the International Arabian Horse Association and was he a member of the board of Directors of a nursing home in Edmond? Really, this is compelling stuff, TIME.

So lying about being on a board of directors or governors is OK. Damn, I gotta update up my resume. It seems that during my time as the Assistant Ice Hockey Coach and outstanding professor as a Dean's List student in college I was also serving as a Trustee to the University...

What can I say? I was a busy freshman...

Of course, assuming that all of this is just a minor deal, it doesn't matter. The precedent has been set. It doesn't matter if you are lying on your resume to make yourself look good, lying about a stock transaction or lying about a consensual relationship: If you lie to the FBI it is a crime. Since the House can't bring Articles of Impeachment against him as they did for the horrible act of lying about sex, it is time for him to be arrested for lying to the FBI - even if there is no other crime committed. For an opinion on that, we can ask Martha Stewart's prosecutors.

Next round of talking points, please.
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