The beauty products from the skin of executed Chinese prisoners

[muriel_volestrangler]

A Chinese cosmetics company is using skin harvested from the corpses of executed convicts to develop beauty products for sale in Europe, an investigation by the Guardian has discovered.

Agents for the firm have told would-be customers it is developing collagen for lip and wrinkle treatments from skin taken from prisoners after they have been shot. The agents say some of the company's products have been exported to the UK, and that the use of skin from condemned convicts is "traditional" and nothing to "make such a big fuss about".
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It is unclear whether any of the "aesthetic fillers" such as collagen available in the UK or on the internet are supplied by the company, which cannot be identified for legal reasons. It is also unclear whether collagen made from prisoners' skin is in the research stage or is in production. However, the Guardian has learned that the company has exported collagen products to the UK in the past. An agent told customers it had also exported to the US and European countries, and that it was trying to develop fillers using tissue from aborted foetuses.

When formally approached by the Guardian, the agent denied the company was using skin harvested from executed prisoners. However, he had already admitted it was doing precisely this during a number of conversations with a researcher posing as a Hong Kong businessman. The Press Complaints Commission's code of practice permits subterfuge if there is no other means of investigating a matter of public interest.

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/china/story/0,7369,1568622,00.html

Something to think about when choosing your skincare products ...

[TallahasseeGrannie]

1. I have to admit

my first reaction was relief that there was somebody more depraved than the American government.

But then I threw up.

[Sadie5]

15. Now, wait a minute here

There just might be something to this. The article has credibility. Collagen is not the first choice in the US these days, but Restlyn is. Collagen does require allergy tests as it is a bovine product. Restlyn does not. Lately I have read where these two treatments will be combined because of the asetic content in Collagen. Restlyn's claim to fame is there are no allergic reaction connected with it. What better way to make Restlyn than from other humans. Maybe this is why * and the Chinese are so cosy. The Chinese are not a bit choosy who they kill for profit and neither is *.

[cpamomfromtexas]

25. Yuck, this is just another reason I use botanical products

And of course 90% of the products on the market in the US use petroleum products which apparently mimic estrogen once they get in the body. I prefer a brand that uses pure and safe ingredients.

[IndyJones]

36. So what if the person who is harvested from has HIV/AIDS?

[LeftyMom]

63. Or hepatitis C, which is very common in China

because of needle re-use in medical settings for injection of vitamin preparations and anti-virals to treat minor illnesses.

[musette_sf]

67. Restylane is not made from any kind of animal protein

From the Restylane website:

"Unlike rooster-derived hyaluronic acids and bovine collagen products, Restylane is free from animal proteins. This limits any risk of animal-based disease transmissions or development of allergic reactions to animal proteins.

I take that to mean that normally, collagen products are made from avian or bovine sources. Restylane uses a synthetic collagen.

I agree that the culling from prisoners of human-based products for any type of use has huge moral (and potential physical) implications. But at least at this point, I don't see the FDA allowing such substances in approved injectibles or topicals.

[H5N1]

2. that made me sick

[KittyWampus]

61. Chinese Doctors Have Confessed To Using Hearts F/ Transplants From

prisoners who've been shot and aren't quite dead yet.

Does that make us even sicker?

:puke:

[progressivebydesign]

3. Hasn't any of the beauty obsessed ASKED where this shit comes from??

For God's sake. To be injecting shit into your body just for cosmetic purposes... that's just insane. Perhaps this story will bring people back down to Earth on exactly what they are doing to themselves in the name of "beauty", and how horrendous it truly is. This is the sickest thing I've ever read. I say you live with what you were given, do your best with it, and stop worrying about something so inconsequential... like the fullness of you lips.

[TygrBright]

26. Clearly, you are not beauty-obsessed...

>>Hasn't any of the beauty obsessed ASKED where this shit comes from?<<

Look, these people are into ANUS BLEACHING, for Petesqueaks. You think they're reading the labels on their cosmetics, worrying about whatthehell some euphemistic ingredient name means?

Get a grip...

wonderingly,
Bright

[FlaGranny]

39. Anus bleaching? Really?

Never heard of that. Wonders will never cease.

[Theres-a]

45. 74,900 results at google.

Who new.First,the Brazilian wax,now this.

[yurbud]

60. given your user name, are you speaking from anus bleaching experience?

[David__77]

4. I don't believe this.

This is anti-China hysteria, which oh so conveniently cannot be verified or followed up on. There is a faction at home and in Britain that wishes to turn the guns against the rising power of China, and I hope people take this with a grain of salt.

[SteppingRazor]

5. What're you, some sort of pinko commie bastard?

;)

[Kelvin Mace]

9. BIG grain of salt

The evidence is completely heresay.

I like the Guardian, but this time they will have to do better.

[TallahasseeGrannie]

18. Kind of like dogs in Chinese food myths? n/t

[Horse with no Name]

35. They use cats in Texas

Seriously.
One of our old favorite Chinese restaurants used to have the best chicken.
Was the most tender of any I had ever eaten.
After we had eaten there regularly for over a year, there was an article in the paper that a midnight police raid had found over 100 skinned cats hanging in their back room.
It was in Sulphur Springs, TX. Restaurant was called Happy Moon.
:puke:

[WhereIsMyFreedom]

40. If it tasted so good

I don't see what the problem is. We eat pigs, cows, sheep, chickens, deer and many other animals. What's wrong with eating dogs or cats?(besides the fact that I've always heard that cat meat is sour)

[Horse with no Name]

41. Because we don't eat domesticated pets in this country

I personally find it revolting.:shrug:

[WhereIsMyFreedom]

42. Rabbits? Fish?

I guess cats and dogs are the only pets in this country that are sacred. :eyes:

[Horse with no Name]

43. Horses are supposed to be.

I don't eat iguanas either:)

[WhereIsMyFreedom]

44. Ahh, but does the thought of eating iguanas

give you the same :puke: reaction as the thought of eating dog or cat? ;)

And you should check out what snopes has to say about Asian restaurants serving cat or dog. Their Moon Palace sounds very much like your Happy Moon.

http://www.snopes.com/horrors/food/chinese.htm
http://www.snopes.com/critters/edibles/dogsoup.htm

[Horse with no Name]

54. except this was in the newspaper and police reports

Call the SS Police Dept yourself--it happened about 6 years ago.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

49. Who was the owner, Frist?

:puke:

[Nabia2004]

46. whats wrong with raising dogs for food?

Its no different than using cattle, pigs, goats, sheep, horses, rats, etc.

[daleo]

20. I am inclined to agree

If for no other reason than the relative scarcity of executed prisoners to supply the product. And it is the kind of time tested material that fairly shouts out propaganda, along the lines of throwing babies from incubators.

[TheWraith]

34. Not saying one way or another...

But China is kind of like Texas on a grand scale, minus the Bill of Rights. They execute people for just about anything.

[Nabia2004]

47. I agree, the article is loaded - nt

[iamjoy]

6. I Thought We Just Had To Worry About Animal Products

now we have to worry about humans, too.

I know, biologically speaking, humans fall into the animal kingdom

[jilln]

7. Gives whole new meaning to the cruelty-free labels...

Thank goodness there are companies that make animal-free products so we can be sure they are human-free too.

[Algorem]

8. Soylent Yellow brand make up's no good then?

paid an arm and a leg for it too.

[Lilyhoney]

10. I tried to rent

Soylent Green and Logans Run from Blockbuster the other day, but ofcourse they don't carry them.

Soylent yellow. Very funny.

[lowreed]

13. netflix nt

[Lilyhoney]

17. Thanks, but I will just have to go to the other video store in

"the big city". :hi:

[jmowreader]

66. Best Buy in Fayetteville had both

[jody]

14. "paid an arm and a leg for it" and it's made from an arm and a leg. n/t

[IndyJones]

37. LMAO

[chicagiana]

11. There is no limit to the depravity ...

There is no limit to the depravity of Chinese "medicine".

[Southpaw Bookworm]

12. OT, somewhat

But if you're interested in how some of the world's most famous skin care products (Retin-A), pharmaceuticals, and chemical weapons were tested on prison inmates in Philadelphia, violating the Nuremburg Codes, check out Acres of Skin

[NYC]

22. I can't read that, Southpaw Bookworm.

Can't, won't, whatever word you want to use. Please just tell me what year that was done. Thank you. (I already have enough to cause me nightmares.)

[Southpaw Bookworm]

30. Years of the experiments?

Mid 1940s through the mid 1970s.

The book itself was published around 1997.

[NYC]

33. Thank you.

I really didn't want to look. :hi:

[BootinUp]

16. I'm tryin to eat lunch here

:puke:


I find this quite revolting.

[yorkiemommie1]

51. yeah, me too.

and it's chicken. thank g i eat soy products most of the time.

[Vitruvius]

19. And if executions are profitable, there'll be plenty of executions.

And the beauty business and organ business can be real moneymakers. All they and their customers need is no conscience -- and they're in business...

[Megahurtz]

21. Eeeeeeeww! Gross!

:puke:How morbid can you get?

[rayofreason]

23. I don't buy it...

...for the following reasons

1. Not enough executions for industrial-scale production (per #20)
2. Cost of processing people is likely more that processing other sources like cattle
3. Keeping a lid on the story would be impossible; think of the factory workers and what they would see and saw
4. The potential blowback and negative effect on trade is huge

You don't have to count of morality or ethics here, just cold calculation. This story must be a hoax.

[Art_from_Ark]

27. In response:

1) Do you know what the execution rate in China is? I don't think anyone outside of the ruling oligarchy knows for sure. And they certainly can't be trusted to provide real data, since this is essentially the same group that gave the orders for the Tienamen Square massacre and have been covering it up ever since.

2) Absurdly low costs across the board in China essentially negate that argument.

3) Yeah, we know how all those camp guards at Auschwitz, Buchenwald, Dachau, etc., told the whole world about the atrocities, as soon as they were committed, right?

4) Since China controls so much of world trade today, which country is going to start a boycott?

[pippin]

24. Why is this Different from the Ravings of Wingnuts

opposing use of fetal tissues as cures for alzheimers and other diseases?

[Andromeda]

28. China does harvest organs from executed...

prisoners. That's pretty much fact. I don't what methods they use for execution but they couldn't electrocute them, use lethal gas on them or inject them with deadly chemicals. They would have to cut off their heads, hang them or kill them with a shot to the head.

What a gruesome way to receive a life-saving organ. I suppose there's not too much difference than using parts from a motorcycle accident victim, but you have to get permission from the next of kin unless you've provided for that in your will.

[LeftyMom]

64. Last I heard it was the firing squad

and they bill the surviving family for the the bullet. Really.

[Maine-ah]

29. I am so glad I am algeric to just about all of the shit on the market

I use all natural, plant based products. We have a great place up here called Avena Botanicals, and they're awsome. I do believe they have a website too.

I wonder if Bush uses these treatments, since he doesn't look nearly as exhausted as other presidents have by their second term. Or even in their first term.

[pitohui]

31. what are you joking

* doesn't look exhausted because he's always on vacation & because, as they have admitted at least twice during his reign of error, he has received peels/chemical treatment for pre-cancerous lesions

no freaking natural plant based product does what retin-a or botox or collagen or a peel or dermabrasion or surgery do

there would be no old women with wrinkled skin if all you had to do was rub some herbal cream on yr face

i'm not saying use the skin of chinese prisoners, that wouldn't work either, but after a certain point, you either use technology or you have benign skin cancers & wrinkles unless you can arrange to die young which seems a bit extreme

[Maine-ah]

38. eh, I guess you didn't quite understand that I was joking.

Lighten up. I know, and everyone else knows it's because of his vacations. But I could just picture Bush putting on skin cream made litterally from the backs of the chinese on his face.

Take a breath, and re-read posts before you start attacking people. We're all on the same team here.

[daleo]

32. After reading the whole article

Everything is unsourced rumor, except one Chinese doctor seeking asylum in the United States. We know how trustworthy all that can be.

Even if true, it seems like cadavers may be used for cosmetic purposes in the west as well. I doubt whether those people gave their permission for their remains to be used this way, either.

"The agent's admission comes after an inquiry into the cosmetic surgery industry in Britain, commissioned by the Department of Health, pointed to the need for new regulations controlling collagen treatments. Sir Liam Donaldson, the chief medical officer, has highlighted the inquiry's concerns about the use of cadavers for cosmetic treatments. "Cosmetic procedures are a rapidly growing area of private health care," he said. "We must ensure we properly protect patients' safety by improving the training and regulation.""

[KoKo]

48. Yes,cadaver bone is used in dental implants along with cow bone....

They "sterilize" it though...That's what my dentist told me...

[MisterP]

50. NOTE: Results may vary from person to person

(apologies to Futurama)

[NIGHT TRIPPER]

52. ":harvested"? like it's crops?

Suffering=Profit=Corporatism-so admirable!

Haven't we taught China a thing or two about Corporatism and exploitation!!
Guess they'be learned from the best

[Caesarmajestic]

53. That's Beautiful

Who would do this?

[Miss Chybil]

55. And if it's a big hit, they'll just have to kill more convicts, I guess.

People never cease to shock, horrify and amaze me.

[olddad56]

56. maybe they will make condoms for the skin of their penises. I'll bet

those would be expensive, but really give you that natural feel.

[Nihil]

57. Hmmm ...

... condoms with a guaranteed hole at the top?

:evilgrin:

[T_i_B]

58. Not suprised at all

The only question I have, and have had for some time, is how come people don't ask where products such as hair extensions come from and how come this stuff hasn't been reported a long time ago.

[mmonk]

59. I'm going to put my waders on

until the story is verified.

[Cocoa]

62. prisoner lips

:puke:

[JVS]

65. HEINOUS!

[Bravo411]

68. Soylent Cream Is Made From People!!!! n/t

[ckramer]

69. I would say Guardian is full of it

Stupidity doesn't begin to describe this article.

Maybe someone should provide a link to that investigation report.