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Moloch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 06:26 AM
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Dutch to Open Electronic Files on Children
AMSTERDAM, Netherlands - The Dutch government plans to open an electronic file on every child at birth as a tool to spot and protect the troubled kids of the future.

Beginning Jan. 1, 2007, all citizens will be tracked from cradle to grave in a single database — including health, education, family and police records — the health ministry said Tuesday.

As a privacy safeguard, no single person or agency will be able to access all contents of a file. But organizations can raise "red flags" in the dossier to caution other agencies about problems, ministry spokesman Jan Brouwer said.

The intention is to protect troubled children, Brouwer said. Until now, schools and police have been unable to communicate with each other about truancy records and criminality, which are often linked.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050913/ap_on_re_eu/netherlands_child_files


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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 07:28 AM
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1. I'm not sure if I like that
It's a good idea, but it's also a big privacy issue...
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dutchdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 07:44 AM
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2. hmm...
I find it a bit Orwellian and am not so sure I am all that happy that my children are going to be catalogued for life - with youthful disgressions being barcoded on them.

Holland is packed and over-organised in so many ways. I miss the laissez-faire life of Caribbean crusing (sailboat) where chaos reigned - hand in hand - with a high level of privacy and freedom.

Hmm...
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Bassic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 07:50 AM
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3. Big Brother is watching, MUCH!
:banghead:
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 08:36 AM
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4. Fascinating
If anyone could do it well (privacy-wise) it'd be the Dutch. :shrug:
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teknomanzer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 09:09 AM
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5. Bah! Whatever....
Being Dutch does not make one a saint.
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 10:06 AM
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10. Isn't the Netherlands the source of a lot of internet kiddie porn?
I'm not sure this is a good idea.
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wordout Donating Member (355 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 09:29 AM
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6. won't someone think of the children?
"As a privacy safeguard, no single person or agency will be able to access all contents of a file"

So.. only married people can access all the contents of a file? Or is their requirement such that 'two or more people (or agencies)' must be present to view all the files?

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genieroze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 09:36 AM
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7. Don't like the sound of this.
"Every child will get a Citizens Service Number, making it easier to keep track of children with problems even when their families move, said Secretary of Health Clemence Ross" Look out for big bro. Is this crap going to follow them into adulthood and label them for the rest of their lives?
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 09:50 AM
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8. And if history is any guide... as the Dutch go
so will go the world.
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Mizmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 09:52 AM
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9. between this an the liberal use of euthanasia
I'm starting to wonder about the Dutch ...
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pop goes the weasel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 10:39 AM
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11. Very Dutch
The Dutch are meticulous record-keepers. Their population data has always been astoundingly complete.
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