House GOP Derails Democratic Inquiries (DSM and Plame documents)

[sabra]

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/n/a/2005/09/14/national/w123857D57.DTL&type=printable

House GOP Derails Democratic Inquiries

House Republicans derailed Democratic attempts on Wednesday to force the Bush administration to surrender documents on prewar intelligence and the disclosure of the identity of a CIA operative.

Democrats have introduced several "resolutions of inquiry" to compel President Bush and members of his Cabinet to release all information relating to communications with British officials before the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq and the Valerie Plame case.

The White House has taken heat since the disclosure this year of the "Downing Street memos," British documents that suggest the Bush administration had made up its mind by 2002 to invade Iraq. Administration officials also have been interviewed by a special prosecutor in his quest to determine who leaked Plame's covert identity to reporters.

Largely along party lines, the House International Relations Committee unfavorably reported two of the resolutions on Iraq and one resolution on the Plame matter. Earlier, the House Judiciary Committee "unfavorably" reported a similar Plame resolution.

[jsamuel]

1. 22-21 for DSM and 22-22 for Plame (i think)

[Generator]

2. And when or if my child is in public school in this country

That is if we don't get the hell out-they will not being pledging allegiance to this. traitors and liars and thieves

[iconoclastic cat]

3. Did any Dems vote against them?

[fooj]

4. Those fucking Republicans should be prosecuted for

throwing our country under the bus!

The bottom line is - what is wrong is wrong! Period. No getting around it! I am so sick of their sanctimonious BULLSHIT...lying rat bastards can rot in hell as far as I am concerned. They have put every American in jeopardy by their divisive, partisan BS and I've had just about enough. They (all repubs) must shoulder the responsibility of sitting back, DOING NOTHING, and silently watching as their party sells out to the imposters that run OUR HOUSE!!! They are not fit to call themselves Americans, IMO. This isn't just about the politicians in DC, either. This is about Americans who have aided and abetted these evil, maniacal monsters and I don't believe that their participation in all of this madness should bear no consequence. Actions have consequences. Every spineless repub in this country owns this bullshit. That's right. OWNERSHIP. THEY OWN THIS EVIL.

Peace.

[bee]

22. my thoughts exactly. well said. cheers to you. n/t

[Miss Chybil]

63. The mid-terms will be their consequence.

I hope.

[roseBudd]

5. what are they hiding?

[Coexist]

57. Karl Rove's ass.

because it would be thrown in jail if the truth came out.

[Frances]

6. This is exactly why I get so angry with DUers

who castigate Dems.

Even if a congress member is a DINO, that D after his/her name is necessary in order for Dems to become a majority and to have some power.

Yes, a few Dems vote the wrong way on important bills, but often every single Repub votes the wrong way. And since the Repubs are in the majority they control the chair of each and every committee.

[damntexdem]

9. And the DINOs keep the GOP in the majority.

It's hard to campaign against the GOP when they can point to Democratic co-conspirators.

[depakid]

23. That's exactly right

There's a reason why the Dems have become irrelevant- and a large portion of that is due to DINO's who make the party seem like it stands for nothing.

[brentspeak]

25. It's not individual DINOs who keep the GOP in the majority

It's the combination of poor Democratic campaign leadership and an apathetic Democratic rank-and-file. Can we blame Dianne Feinstein for the fact that so many southern states now vote Republican? Hardly.

[indepat]

7. There will be no inquiry into Repuke possible wrongdoings, no matter how

compelling the preliminary findings/evidence, no matter how grave the charges and implications thereof: the American experiment in self-government is over/kaput for the Repukes will always put partisanship before country, this Republic and its Constitution. EOS

[dooner]

8. Voice of America version of this story...

Lawmakers Debate Downing Street Memo on Iraq War
By Dan Robinson
Capitol Hill
14 September 2005

<big snip>

Committee chairman, Henry Hyde, argued that while pre-war intelligence had been flawed, dredging up what he called conspiracy theories now serves no purpose, adding many Democrats shared the belief Iraq posed a weapons of mass destruction threat:

"The Downing Street memo does not raise anything new," said Mr. Hyde. "The decision to go to war in Iraq and the intelligence surrounding the decision have been examined, and re-examined and re-examined."

<snip>

With the exception of one Republican, Congressman Jim Leach of Iowa, the Republican-controlled committee voted mostly along party lines to report both resolutions on the Downing Street memo unfavorably to the full House of Representatives.

Also sent with an unfavorable vote was a separate resolution on another issue related to Iraq that sought documents regarding the disclosure of the identity of a CIA agent, Valerie Plame, whose husband, former ambassador Joseph Wilson, is a key critic of the Bush administration, over its justifications for using military action.

http://www.voanews.com/english/2005-09-14-voa57.cfm

[paineinthearse]

10. Rep. Maurice Hinchey (D-NY) Iraq "resolution of inquiry" defeated in cmty

Breaking

Hinchey is now speaking on the floor. Transcript to follow....

Defeated in House Committee on International Relations on straight party line vote, EXCEPT one republican supported and one did not vote.

Called on exec to provide to Congress info on the US perspective akin to the British perspective, known as the Downing Street Memos.

More details at http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4770393&mesg_id=4770393

more to come....

[fooj]

11. He is on fire!

Peace.

[ithacan]

12. he's my congressman!

he's great!! Go Maurice!

[fooj]

14. Right on!

Peace.

[paineinthearse]

19. He's a good man.

Use "advanced search" to see DU posts relating to his proactive leadership during the Dan Rather's memogate.

Here's his stance on Iraq:

http://www.house.gov/hinchey/issues/foreign.shtml

Iraq

I opposed going to war against Iraq and voted against giving President Bush the authority to wage war on Iraq. It is now clear that the administration overstated the threat presented by Iraq, as no weapons of mass destruction have been found. It is also clear that President Bush was not prepared for the aftermath of the war. U.S. soldiers are now mired in a dangerous and deadly situation. They are subject to nearly 20 attacks a day and we are now losing almost 7 young soldiers each week. While I firmly support our troops, I voted against the additional $87 billion President Bush requested for Iraq. I did so because it continues a failing policy and unfairly burdens American taxpayers for the cost of rebuilding Iraq at a time of record deficits and when we can't even meet our domestic needs - failing schools, crumbling hospitals, outdated electricity grid, and gaps in our homeland security.

Now that the U.S. has removed Saddam Hussein's government, we must recognize that our actions in post-war Iraq are as important, if not more important, than our actions during the war. Unfortunately, the Bush Administration has refused to recognize that its unilateral strategy is not working. Abandoning Iraq now that we removed its prior government is not an option. The U.S. must do more to bring in allies and international organizations to the reconstruction of Iraq. Our recent efforts to seek greater U.N. involvement are a start, but a comprehensive and genuine effort to enlist others to share the burden in Iraq is required.

Investigating Pre-War Intelligence
This was a war of choice, billed as a war of necessity. President Bush and his advisors and staff regularly overstated the threat presented by Iraq and the certainty of the evidence of that threat. While it certainly seemed likely that Saddam Hussein had some weapons of mass destruction, we clearly did not have evidence of any immediate threat to our national security from Iraq. Rather than apprising the American people of the facts, they used spin and deception to win support for this unnecessary war.

I believe these misrepresentations should be investigated by the Congress to determine whether the Bush Administration deliberately falsified intelligence and mislead members of Congress. I have cosponsored legislation (H. Res. 307, H. Res. 410, H.R. 2625) to do just that.

[paineinthearse]

20. H. RES. 375

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/C?c109:./temp/~c109UcyGZQ

HRES 375 IH

109th CONGRESS

1st Session

H. RES. 375
Requesting the President and directing the Secretary of State to transmit to the House of Representatives not later than 14 days after the date of the adoption of this resolution all information in the possession of the President and the Secretary of State relating to communication with officials of the United Kingdom between January 1, 2002, and October 16, 2002, relating to the policy of the United States with respect to Iraq.

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

July 21, 2005
Ms. LEE (for herself, Mr. CONYERS, Ms. BALDWIN, Mr. CLAY, Mr. DAVIS of Illinois, Mr. DELAHUNT, Mr. EVANS, Mr. FARR, Mr. GRIJALVA, Mr. GUTIERREZ, Mr. HINCHEY, Ms. JACKSON-LEE of Texas, Mr. KUCINICH, Ms. KILPATRICK of Michigan, Mr. MCDERMOTT, Mr. OBERSTAR, Mr. OWENS, Mr. PALLONE, Mr. PAYNE, Mr. RANGEL, Ms. SCHAKOWSKY, Mr. SERRANO, Mr. STARK, Mr. THOMPSON of Mississippi, Ms. WATSON, Mr. WEXLER, and Ms. WOOLSEY) submitted the following resolution; which was referred to the Committee on International Relations


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

RESOLUTION
Requesting the President and directing the Secretary of State to transmit to the House of Representatives not later than 14 days after the date of the adoption of this resolution all information in the possession of the President and the Secretary of State relating to communication with officials of the United Kingdom between January 1, 2002, and October 16, 2002, relating to the policy of the United States with respect to Iraq.

Resolved, That not later than 14 days after the date of the adoption of this resolution--

(1) the President is requested to transmit to the House of Representatives all documents, including telephone and electronic mail records, logs, calendars, minutes, and memos, in the possession of the President relating to communications with officials of the United Kingdom from January 1, 2002, to October 16, 2002, relating to the policy of the United States with respect to Iraq, including any discussions or communications between the President or other Administration officials and officials of the United Kingdom that occurred before the meeting on July 23, 2002, at 10 Downing Street in London, England, between Prime Minister Tony Blair of the United Kingdom, United Kingdom intelligence officer Richard Dearlove, and other national security officials of the Blair Administration; and

(2) the Secretary of State is directed to transmit to the House of Representatives all documents, including telephone and electronic mail records, logs, calendars, minutes, memos, and records of internal discussions, in the possession of the Secretary relating to communications with officials of the United Kingdom from January 1, 2002, to October 16, 2002, relating to the policy of the United States with respect to Iraq, including any discussions or communications between the Secretary of State or other officials of the Department of State and officials of the United Kingdom that occurred before the meeting on July 23, 2002, at 10 Downing Street in London, England, between Prime Minister Tony Blair of the United Kingdom, United Kingdom intelligence officer Richard Dearlove, and other national security officials of the Blair Administration.

END

[Zhade]

21. I agree with everything except the "we gotta stay" part.

Didn't we put in a (albeit quasi-puppet, likely-to-be-overthrown) government to replace Hussein?

We can get out and PAY for the reconstruction. Everyone knows we're not actually doing much reconstruction ourselves anyway, and Iraqis need jobs and can rebuild the country they know and love better than we can.

Time to go.

[fooj]

13. "We will be back. We will be back until we get the truth."

Damn straight we'll be back.

peace.

[Independent_Liberal]

17. Kick!

[fooj]

15. Sanders is going after the rat bastards now!

Peace.

[The_Casual_Observer]

16. First step toward impeachment. The gop will NEVER

vote for one of these.

[paineinthearse]

18. Press release: Hinchey Resolution Requiring Bush Administration To Present

This is from this morning. I will post the "outcome" news release as soon as it is available.



http://www.house.gov/apps/list/press/ny22_hinchey/morenews/091405roi.html

For Immediate Release
September 14, 2005
Hinchey Resolution Requiring Bush Administration To Present Congress With Pre-Iraq War Documents & Communications Comes Before House Panel

Congressman Introduced Measure In Light Of Downing Street Memos
Contradicting Bush Administration Claims That Military Action Was Last Resort

Washington, D.C. - In an effort to uncover the truth behind the Bush Administration's pre-Iraq war policy, Congressman Maurice Hinchey (D-NY) today urged the House International Relations Committee to adopt a measure he authored that would require President Bush and Defense Secretary Rumsfeld to present Congress with all documents relating to communications with British officials regarding Iraq, from the start of the Bush presidency until the start of the war. With the Downing Street memos indicating that the Bush Administration had long-intended to invade Iraq rather than seek a diplomatic resolution as was publicly stated, Hinchey said he felt it was critical for Congress and the public to see exactly what was said between U.S. and British officials leading up to the war. The House International Relations Committee narrowly rejected Hinchey's resolution largely along party lines, with 23 members voting against the measure, 22 voting for it, and one voting present.

"The Downing Street memos are a series of explosive documents that detail how the Bush Administration was intent on invading Iraq at the same time it was publicly stating that war was only a last resort." Hinchey said. "In order to have a clear understanding of exactly what the Bush Administration's internal thinking and actual policy was prior to the war, it is imperative that the White House and Pentagon release all related documents. We know from British documents that officials there believed, based on their communications with U.S. officials, that President Bush was long-committed to war with Iraq despite public assertions otherwise. Since it has become clear that we cannot trust the public rhetoric that comes from the White House, it is time to review all of the internal Bush Administration documents to see for ourselves what the Iraq policy exactly was prior to the invasion."

The first Downing Street memo was published by the British newspaper, The Sunday Times, on May 1, 2005. Since then, a total of eight secret British documents pertaining to the invasion of Iraq have been released. All of the documents were written by or intended for high-level British officials between March 14 and July 23, 2002, a full eight months before the invasion of Iraq. The documents show that contrary to assertions by President Bush, intelligence leading up to the Iraq war was in fact manipulated to fit the Bush agenda of invading Iraq. Additionally, the decision to go to war was made secretly and far in advance of the invasion, and there was little or no post-invasion planning.

Hinchey's resolution would require President Bush to transmit to the U.S. House of Representatives all Iraq-related documents, including telephone and electronic mail records, logs, calendars, minutes, and memos in the possession of the president relating to communications with officials of the United Kingdom from January 1, 2001, to March 19, 2003. Those documents would include any discussions or communications between the president, then National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice, or other Administration officials and officials of the United Kingdom. The Hinchey measure would also require Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld to present similar documents, including any discussions or communications between any Defense Department official, including Under Secretary of Defense for Policy Douglas J. Feith and Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence Dr. Stephen A. Cambone, and officials of the United Kingdom.

The Downing Street memos makes clear that President Bush and his administration had decided to invade Iraq long before the actual invasion. One of the most damning statements in the Downing Street Memo comes from a foreign policy aide to David Manning, the UK Foreign Policy Advisor. The memo states, "The Foreign Secretary said he would discuss this with Colin Powell this week. It seemed clear that Bush had made up his mind to take military action, even if the timing was not yet decided. But the case was thin. Saddam was not threatening his neighbors, and his WMD capability was less than that of Libya, North Korea, or Iran."

"If the Bush Administration deliberately manipulated the intelligence on Iraq to meet its intended policy of invading Iraq, as the Downing Street memos say they did, then I believe a criminal investigation of high-level administration officials is warranted," Hinchey said. "The Congress and the American people deserve to see all of the Bush Administration's documents related to Iraq so that we can make a fair assessment as to whether the president and his administration deliberately misled us."

The Hinchey measure was a resolution of inquiry, which is a House procedure that seeks factual information from the executive branch. It applies only to requests for facts -- not opinions -- within the Administration’s control.

Hinchey vowed to continue fighting in Congress to find ways to uncover the truth behind the Bush Administration's Iraq policy.

[stepnw1f]

24. Can You Say Totalitarianism

Thanks to the GOP... the commies are commin', the commies are commin', the warned. Guess who the enemy really was? Yup... the GOP!

[Dr Fate]

26. What are top Democrats saying on TV about this?

???

[splat@14]

27. Maybe someone in the know can explain this process to this idiot..

Is a resolution of inquiry the only option? Why does the International Relations Committee have the up or down vote on this, why can't it be put in front of a more friendly body? Sounds like as long as they rule congress, nothing happens that they don't want.

[lovuian]

28. Republicans move to bury debate on Downing St memo

http://feeds.bignewsnetwork.com/?sid=c8e4709c8ae014d4

Big News Network.com Wednesday 14th September, 2005

Prime Minister Tony Blair and President Bush
There has been new debate in Congress over the Downing Street memo, the document quoting a British official in 2002 as saying the Bush administration shaped intelligence to justify a pre-determination to go to war against Saddam Hussein.

The Downing Street memo describes notes from meetings involving British Prime Minister Tony Blair, cabinet members and other officials on July, 23 2002.

It contains comments attributed to the then head of Britain's MI-6 intelligence service, Richard Dearlove, quoting him as saying he had concluded war was inevitable because President Bush was determined to remove Saddam Hussein through military action.

He was also quoted as saying "intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy" and that war would be "justified by the conjunction of terrorism and WMD ."

more...

Bury Bury Bury!!! How deep can they Bury it!!!

[goforit]

29. Yah you Pugs....just sweep all your murders under the rug!!!

Just pretend nothing ever happenned

no one will know.

And if they do, They won't do a damn thing about it cause their whimps.

Right George?

[lovuian]

30. at the very end of the article they make a reference to Wilsongate

Also sent with an unfavorable vote was a separate resolution on another issue related to Iraq that sought documents regarding the disclosure of the identity of a CIA agent, Valerie Plame, whose husband, former ambassador Joseph Wilson, is a key critic of the Bush administration, over its justifications for using military action.


There has been a crime committed and Bush is getting lots of help commiting it from Republicans!!!

[Patchuli]

31. They can't bury it

More than half a million Americans have asked for answers to the DSM. I think not...! Besides, Conyers won't let them! ahahhhhhhhhh

True American heroes, Rep. John Conyers, Sentate Min. Leader, Nancy Pelosi, Senator Reid, Senator Barbara Boxer, Rep. Henry Wexler, Senator Robert Byrd, the list goes on. And of course, our own sneaky Teflon John Kerry and the ever Fabulous Al Gore.

My wish is for a Gore/Kerry ticket...! :loveya:

[TayTay]

32. The Boston Globe had a postscript on this on Monday

Columnist Scott LeHigh said that Kerry had gotten a reply to his request to investigate DSM from the Chair of the Senate Select Committe on Intelligence. Turned him down flat. Everything but the 'F*ck off."

Necessary Truths

Nor has the Republican-led Congress been much better about oversight and accountability.

Yes, the Senate Intelligence Committee did issue an initial report on prewar intelligence failures. The preelection agreement, however, was that after the election the committee would turn its attention to the way senior policy makers used that intelligence in the run-up to the war.

It has since become blindingly apparent that Senator Pat Roberts, the committee chairman, intends to retreat on that commitment. In a July 20 letter to US Senator John Kerry, the Kansas Republican made it clear that he doesn't see that as an important priority, and that even if his committee completes phase II, the results may not be made public.

[RallyInDC]

40. I knew Kerry figured out the truth about them.....roberts is a coverup

pat roberts is in a coverup operation.....its time to blow the lid off, and show the american people on live television the GOP is aiding and covering up treason!

then its time to throw out the voting machines....you better believe it...

we're going to rip this country back with full strings attached.....its time to throw everything to the wayside, full accountability!!!!!

http://www.voteprotect.org

[ShockediSay]

33. LET'S NOT FORGET

"There was little discussion in Washington of the aftermath after military action." (from the Downing St memos)

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-1593607,00.html

In other words, nary a second thought about some kind of post invasion plan. The results?

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/article312735.ece


Baghdad: The bloodiest day

Al-Qa'ida in new offensive. More than a dozen Baghdad attacks. 150 are killed and 540 injured. Iraq plunges towards civil war

By Patrick Cockburn in Baghdad
Published: 15 September 2005

A suicide bomber sparked Baghdad's worst day of slaughter since the fall of Saddam 30 months ago when he lured labourers desperate for work towards his van by offering them jobs and then detonated explosives that killed 114 and injured 156 of them.

On a day when more than a dozen co-ordinated attacks thundered across Baghdad from dawn into the late afternoon - claiming 152 lives and wounding 542 - al-Qa'ida in Iraq said it was retaliating against a US-Iraqi operation directed at the insurgents' northern stronghold of Tal Afar. And as the hours passed with car and roadside bombs shattering the relative calm of the past few days, fears of civil war intensified.

A posting on the internet by al-Qa'ida in Iraq said: "To the nation of Islam, we give you the good news that the battles of revenge for the Sunni people of Tal Afar began yesterday...."

So folks, it's beginning to look like an Islamist Republic AND a civil war in Iraq for Bush, the chicken hawk commandant.

[slay]

34. Republicans are proving themselves to be criminals and traitors

I hope all voters take note!!! :mad:

[ladylibertee]

35. DITTO. I'ts on come election time 2006 and 2008

[texpatriot2004]

36. "What Responsibility?"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/14/AR2005091402621.html

snip

"Anyone in Congress who thinks this administration is capable of really investigating itself has learned nothing from the past four years. Bush will not acknowledge mistakes because, probably, he doesn't think he makes them. For him, good intentions are everything. But people died in the wake of Katrina because Washington could not get helicopters or trucks to hospitals. Bush says he is willing to take responsibility for that. Maybe so. But it's not responsibility that matters, it's accountability -- a kick instead of a medal. From what we know about Bush, it is history -- not the president -- that will have to deliver that."

snip

[ladylibertee]

37. If at first you don't succeed, TRY AGAIN !

[LeahD]

38. Fitzgerald is our only hope. n/t

[paineinthearse]

39. Senate rethugs derailed Clinton amendment to create Katrina cmty, too

See Straight party vote kills Clinton amendment to form Katrina commission - http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4776963

[mzteris]

41. Pubs block Plame investigation

House Republicans block bid for CIA leak data

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Two U.S. congressional committees on Wednesday rejected Democrat-backed resolutions that would have compelled the Bush administration to turn over records relating to the outing of CIA operative Valerie Plame.

Republicans on the House Judiciary Committee and International Relations Committee, who opposed the resolution, said Congress should await the outcome of a federal investigation by special counsel Patrick Fitzgerald.

Democrats countered that Republicans were trying to protect President George W. Bush and his top political adviser, Karl Rove. "We know that this is a political decision because there is potential embarrassment to the administration," said Massachusetts Democratic Rep. William Delahunt.

The resolutions, rejected in committee votes along party lines, sought to force the departments of Justice and State to turn over all documents related to Plame.

-more-

http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=politicsNews&storyID=2005-09-14T202304Z_01_YUE473388_RTRIDST_0_POLITICS-BUSH-LEAK-DC.XML

[halobeam]

42. I'm going crazy trying to find a thread here about having information

brought up in a committee/hearing in Congress and the "witnesses" who would speak in that hearing might say something that then could NOT be used in the court case. Does anyone know what I'm referring to? Somehow, I recall that there were discussions debating the pros and cons of having the Congress/Senate have hearings before the court case is finished.

[iconoclastic cat]

44. I do remember that, but I couldn't tell you more. n/t

[halobeam]

45. Well at least I know I'm not going crazy, well, completely anyway..

[iconoclastic cat]

47. Find H2O Man and ask him! n/t

[halobeam]

49. great suggestion... he's always the man, isn't he!!!!

:toast:

[Benhurst]

46. Ollie North's conviction for his crimes during Iran-Contra was

thrown out on a technicality over his testimony before the Congressional committee.

[halobeam]

48. Yes, that's right. Do you happen to know what the specifics were

and why they threw it out?

on edit: Wondering if it isn't best to wait then for the case to come to it's conclusion. Might this not be the worst thing to happen then (not having the hearings before court case finishes)?

[Benhurst]

54. I agree with you about not having hearings before the court case

finishes. It immunity granted North for his Congressional testimony tainted the evidence gathered against him for his criminal trial. As far as we know Fitzgerald is doing his job. We should leave well enough alone.

[halobeam]

60. That was exactly what I was looking for. Thanks

for the details!.... ahhhhhhhhh So, this isn't so bad then I take it. I can deal with that.

[goforit]

43. I guess these Repugs have something to hide!..... Criminal intent!!!

[nolabels]

53. Crime syndicate - RICO time...........

Opps, forgot that the (R) in front of the title makes them immune from meaningful prosecution

[Democrats_win]

50. Nice campaign issue for 2006.

[kenny blankenship]

51. If they haven't done anything wrong

then they've got nothing to be embarrassed about and nothing to hide. I think they're usually fond of that kind of argument themselves--but I guess it applies only to other people.

[napi21]

52. Fitz has subpoena powers. Can't he simply subpoena the records

he wants/needs? Seems to me this would be the simplest solution.

[Imagevision]

55. Obviously this could implicate what Bush knew and when - they're

threatened by what records would reveal and are no more honest then the hardest of core Mafiaso, Kerry had it right, we're dealing with the most crooked admistration ever...!

http://downingstreetmemo.com/

[Fluffdaddy]

56. This is what happens when you are the minority party in 2 branches

of government.

If we support the right people change is coming in 06

[Virginian]

58. I think we are the minority in all three branches.

The Judicial branch isn't looking too friendly these days either.

[Supersedeas]

59. Accountability....no, not from this Party

[jwirr]

61. I'm curious, when this administration is over do their

papers get sealed or can we go back and look for the truth. I was always angry with Clinton because he did not look into some of the wrong doing of the previous administration. The only thing they revealed was the money they took from HUD.

[Name removed]

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