Pharmacists seek injunction - Claim governor's emergency contraception ...

[Khaotic]

Springfield State Journal-Register, September 15, 2005
Pharmacists seek injunction
Claim governor's emergency contraception rule violates their rights
By MARY MASSINGALE, STATE CAPITOL BUREAU

Two Illinois pharmacists backed by the conservative group Americans United for Life sued Gov. Rod Blagojevich on Wednesday about his rule requiring pharmacists to dispense emergency contraception.

Luke Vander Bleek of Morrison and Glenn Kosirog of Wheaton claim the rule violates their rights under the Illinois Health Care Right of Conscience Act. That law does not specifically list pharmacists but allows "health-care personnel" to refuse to "act contrary to their conscience" in the delivery of health care.

"(Pharmacy has) always been a life-saving profession, a life-preserving profession, a profession I entered to ease suffering and pain," Vander Bleek said. "I really don't see a place for me in this practice of giving out abortifacients."

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This stuff is making me crazy.

As discussed hardcore back in this thread (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=1961601)

The delemma of making pharmacists despense what doctors prescribe is ongoing.

It looks like they'll fight this to the bitter end!

F*ck these people!

I've discussed this issue with pharmacists in my area, most agree with me ... the docs prescribe, they despense ... period.

I now get my prescriptions from K-Mart's Pharmacy because I've learned that the likes of Walgreens, Wal-Mart, and Target have BACKED pharmacists who decide that their morals outweigh what a doctor prescribes.

This is outlandish!

Want to know where your pharmacy stands? Go here: http://www.saveroe.com/fillmypillsnow/content.php?pid=302

Hopefully the IL governor's ruling will stand, but his numbers right now in IL aren't good. If they stay as low as they are now, he won't fair well come '06 and IL pharmacists will probably be able to despense what they feel is right and refuse to despense what they feel is wrong. Sad.

[jayfish]

1. I Wonder If The Right Is Discussing...

giving this fight up for the good of the party?

Jay

[Lars39]

3. ha! Good one!

:thumbsup:

[bunkerbuster1]

17. I'm so sure!

I bet they're fussin' and fumin' about it over at Freeperville!

[Verve]

2. For god sake's, don't become a pharmacist if you don't like handing out

drugs! GET ANOTHER JOB!

[iamjoy]

21. My Father Is A (Retired) Pharmacist

25 years retail, 15 hospital.

He sort of agrees with you (get another job). He thinks if pharmacists want to play the morals game with what prescriptions they dispense, they should open their own pharmacy and be very clear up front about what they will and will not sell. Then it is a matter of, "I do not stock birth control pills, viagra, etc. at my store."

[Verve]

24. Unfortunately, store chains are taking this approach and appeasing

these righteous pharmacists by giving them the right to withhold drugs. That is wrong! #1 these are legal drugs. #2 this is not a uniform policy. You're playing russian roulette with your prescription when you walk into one of these chains. Maybe they'll fill it, maybe they won't. Maybe the pharmacist will tell you they won't fill it because of their moral beliefs, yet, the next person with your identical prescription comes along who is prettier, kinder or has a different color of skin, and lo and behold, the righteous pharmacist bends their own rule and dispenses the drug.

I hope these chains know that by letting these wacko pharmacists make up their own rules, they are setting themselves up for some big lawsuits.

[foflappy]

4. The really scary thing is

that emergency contraception is in no way related to an abortion and a pharmacist should know this. Why would a anti-abortion person want to increase the probability of an abortion? Such absolutist thinking worries me.

[Lars39]

7. I think it's because it helps in their ultimate goal of banning

contraception. Right now they're in the "redefining/making it up" stage, much like they did with "partial birth".

Welcome to DU, foflappy! :toast:

[Southpaw Bookworm]

18. Absolutely.

It has nothing to do with abortion, but everything to do with controlling women's lives.

[DBoon]

8. Welcome to DU!

:)

[brentspeak]

9. It demonstrates that these pharmacists don't know their science.

[Lars39]

11. Yes! Incompetence. Hope the gov.'s lawyers pursue that angle.

[rodeodance]

28. they do not listen to this science (like the WH--they pick and choose)

[K-W]

14. You seem to have forgotten that every sperm is sacred. EOM

[Verve]

16. Gross but I laughed! n/t

[mainegreen]

5. So a left wing doctor can let a conservative die

if he feels that allowing the conservative to live would harm society and thus its against his morals?

Ahhhh, taking freeper logic to its full conclusion.

[brentspeak]

6. Good grief - just strip these pharmacists of their licenses

There are miles and miles of people waiting in line to become pharmacists today. These few bozos who want to play Doctor AND God when they should be practicing as pharmacists need to be removed from the profession without any further ado.

[feminazi]

10. makes me crazy, too

"What they're saying is, we're small-business owners and professionals in health care, and we should not be required to go by the whim of the governor's pandering to liberal causes," Martin said.

no, what they're saying is DO YOUR DAMN JOB! if you don't like it, do something else.

:grr:

[OregonBlue]

12. Thank you, I will never shop at rite aid again.

[Khaotic]

13. Next is ADD meds ...

During my discussion with a Kmart pharmacist the subject of dispensing drugs came up.

To my surprise the pharmacist hadn't heard of a problem with "morning after" or contraceptive drugs (after our discussion she did agree with me in that pharmacist should despense what's prescribed).

Instead, she said they used to have a pharmacist there that refused to dispense ADD medications because it was his view that doctors prescribe it when it's not needed and that parents are lazy, etc., etc.

He lost his job.

Hell yeah.

My son (7) takes Adderall, it has made a huge difference. We didn't tell his teacher when he started taking it because we didn't want her to think he was doing better and read into things just because she knew he was taking medicine.

After ONE week she came to us and said that whatever we were doing to keep it up, that our son had gone from a child that could not pay attention, was disorderly, and on the verge of being put into special classes, to one of the most well behaved kids in the class. Out of no where he had focus, was paying attention, and LEARNING.

We told her that he was taking a very low dose of Adderall and that we had really seen a positive difference at home. The teacher was floored ... with the meds our son was a different person. It took him out of the fog that he was in.

His learning and attention challenges aren't beyond out influence, but with the meds our impact is far greater than without. Now he can focus and absorb what we're trying to convey. It's been a real positive impact.

As for the pharmacist that doesn't believe in them. He better thank his lucky stars he wasn't there refusing to fill my son's meds ... I would have personally seen to watching him get a pink slip!

[Southpaw Bookworm]

19. Any psychiatric medication for that matter

Many fundamentalist churches teach that mental illness really doesn't exist and that it's all a matter of (a) selfishness and buying in to secular society and (b) lack of faith in god.

[Moochy]

15. pssst pharmacists

You are not doctors, and have no right to impose your medieval world view on your customers. Fuck you Luke Vander Bleek, fuck your moralism. Fuck you and your misogynistic medieval friend Glenn Kosirog.

Rapes shcmapes the women who need emergency contraception are just unworthy in Gods eyes. :sarcasm: Grr.

[Tyler Durden]

20. Try getting ACCUTANE for your kid!

My son the senior soccer captain was having the kind of acne that covers your back and scars your face, when our personal physician recommended ACCUTANE. You have to have special training to dispense this because some lawmaker's overweight and acne rosecrea kid killed himself while taking the drug, so now there's a crusade that the drug CAUSED the kid to kill himself.

My kid gets anxious when he gets low on the stuff because he's got his "baby face" and clear complexion back and doesn't want to lose it.

Thank DOG we go to CVS where pharmacists are part of the TEAM and not trying to be the REFEREE.

[OldCurmudgeon]

22. if they don't dispense "morning after" medication...

The governer and the DA should tell them up front:

if they don't dispense "morning after" medication to rape victims, they will be charged as an accesory after the fact to the rape.

That should focus their tiny little minds a bit.

[OldCurmudgeon]

23. if they don't dispense "morning after" medication...

The governer and the DA should tell them up front:

if they don't dispense "morning after" medication to rape victims, they will be charged as an accessory after the fact to the rape.

That should focus their tiny little minds a bit.

[Beaverhausen]

29. You know- that post deserved to be repeated!!!

well done!

[MountainLaurel]

32. Amen

No pun intended.

[DELUSIONAL]

25. stuff any pharmacists who refuses to fill a prescription IN JAIL.

[Az_lefty]

26. I'm getting tired of this crap...

these pharmacists need to do their damned job or get another one. The decision on what to prescribe is between the patient and their Doctor, the pharmacist has no business interfering.

[KitchenWitch]

27. But there is no conscience problem if filling ED drugs for some

man in mid-life crisis wants to have an extramarital affair.

[anitar1]

30. Easy, just fire them. I will not shop anywhere that refuses

to fill birth control or morning after prescriptions. The next step for the Crazy Christians is banning all birth control.

[cornermouse]

31. Pull their pharmacist's license.

If they aren't going to do their job, take away their license.