Weldon: Atta Papers Destroyed on Orders

[CBGLuthier]

WASHINGTON - A Pentagon employee was ordered to destroy documents that identified Mohamed Atta as a terrorist two years before the 2001 attacks, a congressman said Thursday.


The employee is prepared to testify next week before the Senate Judiciary Committee and was expected to name the person who ordered him to destroy the large volume of documents, said Rep. Curt Weldon (news, bio, voting record), R-Pa.

Weldon declined to name the employee, citing confidentiality matters. Weldon described the documents as "2.5 terabytes" — as much as one-fourth of all the printed materials in the Library of Congress, he added.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050915/ap_on_go_co/sept11_hijackers

[mod mom]

1. let me guess...on orders of the BFEE!

[musette_sf]

5. Was just gonna say that, you beat me to it

Like I said to someone in back of me in the interminable security line at Oakland, "If they had only enforced the laws that were THERE on 9/11/01, we wouldn't be doing any of this nonsense!"

Which begs the question, why was there selective enforcement? Answer for me always comes up, BFEE.

[WoodrowFan]

2. Weldon is a nut

2.5 terabytes? yeah, right. that's roughly 3,000 CDs full of information. The Pentagon had THAT much info on Atta and Al-queda? Sure, and monekys fly out my butt every day at noon. Weldon is determined to find a way to blame 9-11 on Clinton.

[Taxloss]

14. 3000 CDs? You're right, this is nuts.

This man is either using "creative accounting" or he is talking rubbish.

Unless this "information" is tens of thousands of redundant surveillance photos.

10.00AM: Someone's front door.

10.01AM: Still a door.

10.02AM: Still a door.

10.03AM: Still a door.

10.04AM: Still a door.

Etc.

[salvorhardin]

18. More precisely...

The standard SlimPak CD case measures 133mm x 124.5mm x 5.2mm.

3,000 SlimPak cases would stack to 15.6 meters high or 51.2 feet high

Stacked 3 on a side, that would still add up to a stack that is 1.7 meters high or 5.7 feet high.

BULLSHIT!


On edit: Removed '24 minutes' from post. Not relevant.

[salvorhardin]

22. And if you want the math on recordable DVDs....

2.5 terabytes = 2 560 gigabytes or 545 DVD-R discs at 4.7GB each.

That's a stack of DVD-Rs in SlimPak cases 2.8 meters or 9.3 feet tall.

[seemslikeadream]

25. Excuse me where did you get that 24 minutes?

[salvorhardin]

29. Excuse me

I saw that in your post #6 in this thread and thought they were related to this discussion. I removed the 24 minutes from my post.

[seemslikeadream]

31. It was related to the discussion

if you would have watched the video you would have known that

[salvorhardin]

32. OK then. n/t

[moodforaday]

55. Unless it's video

Data from surveillance cameras. Or uncompressed audio from bugged rooms and phone lines.

[Monkey see Monkey Do]

17. Weldon's previous & other Able Danger skepticism

Rep. Weldon has a history of making inflammatory allegations that later proved to be unfounded.

On June 7, 1999 he stood on the House floor and accused the Clinton Administration of leaking the design of the W87 nuclear warhead to U.S. News and World Report. It was a charge he repeated several times, referring to an artist's rendering of the W87 warhead which appeared in the magazine's July 31, 1995 edition.

"This administration leaked this document to U.S. News & World Report, giving the entire populace of the world... access to the design of the W87 nuclear warhead," he alleged.

"I have been told... that it was Hazel O'Leary herself who gave U.S. News & World Report the actual diagram of the W87 nuclear warhead in 1995," he said.

On June 8, 1999 he stated flatly: "Hazel O'Leary leaked the plans, which are in this magazine, for the W87 nuclear warhead."
None of this was true.

No government diagram of the W87 warhead was given to U.S. News. The artist's rendering of the weapon was a conceptual drawing, not a design. It was explicitly credited by the magazine to the Natural Resources Defense Council. An NRDC analyst confirmed that he had supplied the information to the graphic artist, and that it was based on informed speculation, not classified information.

In accordance with the political tactics used to attack the Clinton-Gore Administration throughout much of the 1990s, Rep. Weldon never retracted or apologized for his unfounded accusations. See:

http://www.fas.org/sgp/bulletin/sec80.html#weldon

According to an August 10 story in The Hill, Rep. Weldon said House Speaker Dennis Hastert will support his potential bid to become the next chairman of the House Armed Services Committee in 2008.

http://www.fas.org/sgp/news/secrecy/2005/08/081605.html#4

A brilliant article on Curt Weldon's source "Ali" (and hey, it's great to see Manucher Ghorbanifar back in the public limelight!)

http://www.prospect.org/web/page.ww?section=root&name=ViewPrint&articleId=9361

Sourcewatch has a balanced run down of the credibility of the Able Danger claims:

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Able_Danger

Terry McDermott (who has spent the past 2 years researching his book "Perfect Soldiers" - a biography of sorts of the 19 hijackers) wrote a great article in the LA Times pointing out how the Atta timeline Able Danger suggests seriously contradicts all of his research. Unfortunately the article "Seeing what we want to see" is offline.

Eric Umansky was also providing some good Able Danger skepticism until Katrina rightly diverted his attention. Unfortunately his site is a bitch to navigate. A google turned up his post about the McDermott article - to find more just google, or trapse back in time throguh Umansky's site:

http://www.ericumansky.com/2005/08/yet_more_able_d.html

Here's a good question about Weldon's legendary chart:
http://www.warandpiece.com/blogdirs/002377.html

[anotherdrew]

28. sounds like high-res scans of paper documents perhaps

raw phone intercepts in uncompressed wav files, lots and lots of photos, it's possible to get to 2.5Tb, but damn, that is a lot...


I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

He has sure seemed like a loony in the past, but maybe he's on to something and just dumb enough to push this? Does he have any idea where this could lead?

[me b zola]

54. Remind me to stay up wind of you at noon.

I hear flying monkeys eminating from one's butt is quite offensive :D

[WoodrowFan]

58. not as offensive at the tin foil crowd

who seem intent on repeating every piece of RW BS they hear.

bye bye

[me b zola]

61. The only thing I repeated was a phrase from your post.

Is that the rw BS that you are refering to? :shrug:


Buh-Bye :hi:

[rzemanfl]

3. Holy shit. n/t

[Wilms]

4. Terror Bites n/t

[seemslikeadream]

6. DO THE MATH

BUDDY BUDDY
http://www.gsnmagazine.com.nyud.net:8090/images/aug_05/atta.jpg
DO THE MATH

24 MINUTES

THERE MUST HAVE BEEN A MILITARY ORDER

http://www.bushflash.com/buddy.html

[Sterling]

23. Great song btw

kick

[Akoto]

7. 2.5 TERABYTES of information destroyed?

That's a whole hell of a lot of information to have on one man. Destroying it would seem to defy logic, which makes this story fishy in my view.

[Cocoa]

13. that number doesn't even make sense

:crazy:

[shavedape]

41. 2.5 Tb of data searched

Perhaps in violation of federal law (shrug), and it spits out Atta's name and probably a lot of others.

[seemslikeadream]

8. Weldon can not blame Clinton - Clinton was NEVER told

Able Danger is a Pandora's Box that will blow up in the RW's face.
Re-open the 9/11 investigation? BRING IT ON! Here's why:

So the responsibility for stopping DIA program Able Danger, which had Identified Atta and 3 other hijackers and linked them to 56 other al-Queda terrorists overseas, has been laid at the feet of Bill Clinton--except he and Richard Clarke were never told about it at all.

That's right. Bill Clinton was never told about Able Danger and the ID of Atta because Richard Clarke was never told about AD. How do I know? He never wrote about it in his book, nor did he testify about it's existence before the 9-11 Commission!

You see Richard Clarke was known for being obsessed with Osama Bin Laden and HE was the guy the neo-con moles did not want to find out about Atta and the gang. Schoomaker and the neo-cons knew telling the FBI would inform Clarke and then Mr. Laser Beam himself, President of the United State William Jefferson Clinton, would have gotten involved--and the Pearl Harbor-type attack would never take place (the neo-cons talked about the need for a Pearl Harbor-type attack before the PNAC Plan would be accepted by the American people--so when one presented itself, they let it happen).

General Pete Schoomaker, who were later heavily rewarded by the neo-cons in the Bush Administration, blocked the upward motion of the DIA information by having Shaffer and Philpott meet with Pentagon lawyers opinions--lawyers who were rubberstamping ridiculous legal opinions to carry out the neo-con plan. These certain people were neo-cons in the Clinton Administration, covertly carrying out the PNAC plan to let a Pearl Harbor-type attack occur so Iraq and 6 other countries could be invaded.

[pretzel4gore]

9. have caka and eat it too...

how conveenient that the documents were destroyed, and some oliver north character is all lined up for the bushit fall. BUTT! george boosh junior never won the 2k election. he never got as many votes as algore. all those punks on the supreme court (scalia, thomas, kennedy etc) belong in jail.....the theft of the 2k election was part of a planned seizure of power by punks who wouldn't dare tell the electorate what they plan to do, so did it under cover of patriotism etc and by hoodwinking the stupidest people in the country...their very success has since proven how costly such a state of affairs is....yet there are those who think muhammed atta (a guy no one's ever actually seen, along with obl, santa claws, caspar the ghost etc)...these bastards are conmen. period. anyone who believes anything that fortifies the bush bushit and swallows this stuff should buy this bridge off me (london bridge? brooklyn bridge? you name it, i got it, it's fer sale, cheap)
mohamed atta is so september 10th

[dbeach]

33. Did U say cake??

http://bushspeaks.com/home.asp?did=205&dir=b

[Pepperbelly]

10. What is Weldon planning to with this?

Where is he planning on taking this?

[seemslikeadream]

12. I believe he thinks he's gonna get Clinton

but he will NOT

see my previous posts

[seemslikeadream]

11. "COVER ATTA'S FACE WITH POST IT NOTES Schoomaker & Zelikow"

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/8/24/124834/678


DIA Agents were ordered to put yellow Post-its over Atta's face and the face's of 3 other 9/11 terrorists

"We were directed to take those 3M yellow stickers and place them over the faces of Atta and the other terrorists and pretend they didn't exist," the intelligence officer told GSN."

Intel agents Michael Shaffer and Scott Philpott have confirmed Rep. Weldon's claims that a chart with Atta's face, soon the photos of 3 other members of the 9-11 terror team, were known to DIA team Able Danger by early 2000.

This diary will show that Pete Schoomaker and Philip Zelikow are two of the main Perpetraitors in this scandal, that they deliberately withheld information from the President of the United States that would have prevented 9/11, that they and their neo-con rulers Let It Happen On Purpose.

Of this there can no longer be any doubt.



MUST READ - RE: ABLE DANGER INFO
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4447706

Hopsicker: Able Danger Intel Exposed "Protected" Heroin Trafficking
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x149481


Able Danger: Short Time-line
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4441903

Was Able Danger Shut Down After It Detected Condi-PRC Spy Ring?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4494524



Senate May Hold Hearings on Able Danger, Info Sharing
Thursday, August 25, 2005


Able Danger (search) is the code name for a military-intelligence unit that apparently learned a year before the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks that lead hijacker Mohamed Atta (search) and other terrorists were already in the United States.

One of the central Able Danger claims — that military lawyers blocked the sharing of the Atta information from the FBI in the late summer and early fall of 2000 — will be a focus of the committee's if a hearing takes place, FOX News has confirmed.

Some analysts involved with Able Danger have recently gone public with their findings, saying they were discouraged from looking further into Atta, and their attempts to share their information with the FBI were thwarted, because Atta was a legal foreign visitor at the time.

"This story needs to be told. The American people need to be told what could have been done to prevent 3,000 people from losing their lives," said Rep. Curt Weldon (search), R-Pa.

Weldon drew attention to Able Danger by speaking about it on the House floor and publicly calling for the Sept. 11 commission to explain why the intelligence information wasn't detailed in its final report.

Some Able Danger analysts, including Army Reserve Lt. Col. Anthony Shaffer (search) and Navy Capt. Scott Phillpott (search), claim that in October 2003, they told commission staffers of the presence of Al Qaeda operatives in the United States in 2000.


more
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,166800,00.html


Senate May Hold Hearings on Able Danger, Info Sharing
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1727804&mesg_id=1727804




Condi in Middle of Able Danger ‘Cover Up’"

Weldon is now saying that the Pentagon cover up of able danger “will shake the country to its roots."

...

If the claims made by the Able Danger participants and Rep. Weldon are confirmed, former National Security Adviser Rice and other Bush Administration officials will face a barrage of questions. First would likely be an inquiry into why the administration unceremoniously axed the Able Danger project in May of 2001.

During an August 20th interview on C-Span’s Washington Journal, Able Danger member Lt. Col. Schaffer posed a question of his own:

"The American public should ask themselves: Why would the leadership of DoD shut down, terminate, a project which was aimed at targeting al-Qaeda offensively? ...

"Why would they shut that down, four months before 9/11? That’s the big question right now, we have to ask that. I don’t know the answer to that question because I know my side of the story, I know that when a 2 star general got in my face and said, “I’m a 2 star general and you are not. You are to stop your support of Able Danger.” That’s what I know personally. But the question has to be: Who told him to do that? ...

"And why did the rest of the project, I’m talking about Special Operations Command and the Army portion of this, why was that terminated?

"Those are the questions that need to be asked."


more...

http://www.theinternationalpost.com/z30082005.html

Congressman Weldon -- Why now? Why ever?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4500623


Three more assert Pentagon knew of 9/11 ringleader By Will Dunham

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Three more people associated with a secret U.S. military intelligence team have asserted that the program identified September 11 ringleader Mohammed Atta as an Al Qaeda suspect inside the United States more than a year before the 2001 attacks, the Pentagon said on Thursday.

The Pentagon said a three-week review had turned up no documents to back up the assertion, but did not rule out that such documents relating to the classified operation had been destroyed.

Navy Capt. Scott Phillpott and Army Lt. Col. Anthony Shaffer last month came forward with statements that a secret intelligence program code-named "Able Danger" had identified Atta, the lead hijacker in the attacks that killed 3,000 people, in early 2000. Pennsylvania Republican Rep. Curt Weldon (news, bio, voting record), vice chairman of the House of Representatives Armed Services Committee, also went public with the allegations.

Pat Downs, a senior policy analyst in the office of the undersecretary of defense for intelligence, told reporters that as part of the review, the Pentagon interviewed 80 people.

Downs said that three more people, as well as Phillpott and Shaffer, recalled the existence of an intelligence chart identifying Atta by name. Four of the five recalled a photo of Atta accompanying the chart, Downs said.

Pentagon officials declined to identify the three by name, but said they were an analyst with the military's Special Operations Command, an analyst with the Land Information Warfare Assessment Center and a contractor who supported the center.

Downs said all five were considered "credible people."

But officials said an exhaustive search of tens of thousands of documents and electronic files related to Able Danger failed to find the chart or other documents corroborating the identification of Atta. Phillpott has said Atta was identified by Able Danger by January or February of 2000.

"We have not discovered that chart," Downs said.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050901/pl_nm/security_attacks_pentagon_dc


Three more assert Pentagon knew of 9/11 ringleader
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1744982&mesg_id=1744982

[redqueen]

67. The PNAC already had its plans laid...

Nice post. :thumbsup:

[pretzel4gore]

69. who cares about this crap?

the theft of the 2k election is going to kill everybody....just the fact any talk about it is 'loonie conspiracy' says that this contrasting eagerness to create masses of info on atta and obl etc terrorists and hijackers is based upon knowing there were no goddam hijackers/terrists (what better way to giggle off the herd?)
there are books published with documented stories of gopig insiders plotting how to seize control of usa despite fact most voters hate the gop righteous conmen hypocitical pigs with a passion....years of lying followed by massively funded pretending results in them saying reagan was a popular president despite the fact it's known he wasn't popular among workers, the poor, the black, the liberal or the gays etc....iow the majority of the people....anything ANYTHING the mediawhores push in the media is a lie...this stuff is a lie. the downing street minutes weren't a lie (thus the pigmedia were hush hush about it)...you can tell what's true and what aint by whether the pigmedia pushes it or ignores it...like mama bates, mohammed atta wouldn't hurt a fly

[seemslikeadream]

70. Paul Thompson does

since I know who he is and he did write 9/11 Timeline and was at the McKinney hearings that's him on the lower right.

I believe Richard Clarke includes Paul's book in the university class he teaches








The Terror Timeline : Year by Year, Day by Day, Minute by Minute: A Comprehensive Chronicle of the Road to 9/11--and America's Response (Paperback)

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_project

[rateyes]

15. IMHO, this smells fishy...

I mean, 2.5 terabytes? 1/4 of the material in the Library of Congress? Do you realize how long it would take to gather that kind of information on one person? I don't think there's that much information on any one person in the world. And, then get ALL of it destroyed. I'll wait for something more substantive than an allegation by a Repig like Curt Weldon.

edit for spelling.

[seemslikeadream]

16. You should read post 11

There is way more info than Weldon

[rateyes]

19. Just read it! Thanks.

Not arguing about that---but 2.5 terabytes is a HELL of a lot of information on one person. I hope that ABLE DANGER info comes to light and brings down the neo-con house of cards.

[seemslikeadream]

20. Yea I don't understand that 2.5 stuff at all

but I bet Schoomaker does

[Minstrel Boy]

24. Perhaps it's this:

nothing in the story demands that all of the docs have been about Atta; only that his docs were included in the total destroyed. So perhaps we're talking about a purge of a huge amount of data, of which Atta's material was a small part.

[patdem]

21. 2,5 terabytes and post-it notes to cover it up..wow...and I thought repubs

suffered from 'lack of imagination'...they certainly have lots when it comes to trying to attack Clinton...too bad they do not use it to protect America!

[paulthompson]

26. Explaining 2.5 terrabytes

Do you all know what Able Danger was? It was a data mining program, kind of an early version of Total Information Awareness. Its goal was to go through massive amounts of publicly available databases and look for patterns. For instance, they apparently connected Atta to al-Qaeda by looking at records of people attending radical mosques and making connections on people attending mosques at the same time as known al-Qaeda members.

I'm assuming the 2.5 terrabytes is ALL the data Able Danger had collected in its couple years of existence. Apparently, the entire Able Danger database was wiped out (which meant their copies of large databases). Obviously, only a tiny fraction of this had anything to do with al-Qaeda.

Weldon may be a bit of a loon, but there are many whistleblowers in the Able Danger program coming out. Three by name so far, three anonymous, and apparently more coming forward all the time, like the guy mentioned in this article.

People at DU keep dismissing the Able Danger story due to the connection with Weldon, but I don't think it can be dismissed.

[seemslikeadream]

27. I was just thinking of you paul

thanks for the post

[Barrett808]

37. Paul, what do you think of the latest post from Hopsicker?

Mohamed Atta Senior in U.S. Two Weeks Before 9.11 Attack
http://madcowprod.com/08232005.html

[myrna minx]

63. Thanks n/t

[savemefromdumbya]

30. Atta is still alive

isn't he?

[WoodrowFan]

40. um, no

he crashed one of the planes into the WTC.

[savemefromdumbya]

46. are you sure

how do you know? you mean the bogus passport in the wreckage!

[WoodrowFan]

56. oh please

the passport that the tinfoilers keep going on about wasn't Atta's! And it was clearly burned. Do CTers EVER tellt he turth?

bye bye. enjoy your Kool aid in the tinfoil cups..

[carlvs]

59. Short answer to your question:

NO!!!

[jillan]

34. I'm having a bad feeling about this. Tell me I'm wrong.

I keep thinking about Sandy Berger taking those confidential papers.
He got caught, and made up some dumb excuse about how they ended up in his pocket.

Please tell me this is not going to be about us.

[jillan]

36. here's the link to the Berger story

http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/09/08/berger.sentenced/

[WoodrowFan]

39. what he had was unrelated

Berger took copies of some material unrelated to this. The originals are still, and have been, in the archives.

[jillan]

53. not UNrelated

totally related -
Here's a snip from my link

Berger's associates admit he took five copies of an after-action report detailing the 2000 millennium terror plot from the Archives. The aides say Berger returned to his office, discovered that three of the copies appeared to be duplicates and cut them up with scissors.

[WoodrowFan]

57. dude

Atta and Able Danger are DIFFERENT from the 2000 Plot. Jeezus.

bye bye.

[IndyJones]

47. I was wondering that, too. This just keeps getting weirder.

I wish they could get to the truth, but it seems unlikely.

[dflprincess]

35. I'd feel more comfortable if "the employee"

went public now. If s/he waits until next week, s/he might suddenly get the urge to commit suicide before s/he appears before the committee.

[Bushwick Bill]

38. I Trust Weldon More Than the Whitewash Commission

I know I may take some heat here for that, but as Paul says, you can't just dismiss the mountains of evidence that are coming out here about this operation. You may say that Weldon is just out to point the finger at Clinton, and if that's the case, I stand corrected. It seems incredible at this point that the "Commission" so vehemently denies any existence of Able Danger. Weldon's reaction here is in line with anyone who has delved into 9/11 and can't believe things like that leads weren't followed up on and investigations were spiked when FBI officials (see Minneapolis, Phoenix and Robert Wright) wanted to investigate and bust the eventual hijackers.

If it takes Weldon to reopen 9/11 or blow the doors off of the official coverup, I'm all ears.

[deadparrot]

42. Weldon: Atta Papers Destroyed on Orders

WASHINGTON - A Pentagon employee was ordered to destroy documents that identified Mohamed Atta as a terrorist two years before the 2001 attacks, a congressman said Thursday.

The employee is prepared to testify next week before the Senate Judiciary Committee and was expected to name the person who ordered him to destroy the large volume of documents, said Rep. Curt Weldon (news, bio, voting record), R-Pa.

Weldon declined to name the employee, citing confidentiality matters. Weldon described the documents as "2.5 terabytes" — as much as one-fourth of all the printed materials in the Library of Congress, he added.

A Senate Judiciary Committee aide said the witnesses for Wednesday's hearing had not been finalized and could not confirm Weldon's comments.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050916/ap_on_go_co/sept11_hijackers

[kiraboo]

43. Oh crap. This has gotta be Clinton's fault. n/t

[sniffa]

44. WRONG!!

it's his penis' fauLt.

[seemslikeadream]

52. Read post 11

[kiraboo]

68. That's what I meant, silly! n/t

[lancdem]

45. Who cares

It's too late. Weldon's trying a change the subject. It won't work.

Even the 9/11 Commission thinks Weldon's a fruit loop.

[seemslikeadream]

49. Zelikow NEVER gave The 9/11 Commission the info on ABLE DANGER

Shoomaker NEVER gave the info to Clinton

[seemslikeadream]

51. Weldon can not blame Clinton - Clinton was NEVER told

Able Danger is a Pandora's Box that will blow up in the RW's face.
Re-open the 9/11 investigation? BRING IT ON! Here's why:

So the responsibility for stopping DIA program Able Danger, which had Identified Atta and 3 other hijackers and linked them to 56 other al-Queda terrorists overseas, has been laid at the feet of Bill Clinton--except he and Richard Clarke were never told about it at all.

That's right. Bill Clinton was never told about Able Danger and the ID of Atta because Richard Clarke was never told about AD. How do I know? He never wrote about it in his book, nor did he testify about it's existence before the 9-11 Commission!

You see Richard Clarke was known for being obsessed with Osama Bin Laden and HE was the guy the neo-con moles did not want to find out about Atta and the gang. Schoomaker and the neo-cons knew telling the FBI would inform Clarke and then Mr. Laser Beam himself, President of the United State William Jefferson Clinton, would have gotten involved--and the Pearl Harbor-type attack would never take place (the neo-cons talked about the need for a Pearl Harbor-type attack before the PNAC Plan would be accepted by the American people--so when one presented itself, they let it happen).

General Pete Schoomaker, who were later heavily rewarded by the neo-cons in the Bush Administration, blocked the upward motion of the DIA information by having Shaffer and Philpott meet with Pentagon lawyers opinions--lawyers who were rubberstamping ridiculous legal opinions to carry out the neo-con plan. These certain people were neo-cons in the Clinton Administration, covertly carrying out the PNAC plan to let a Pearl Harbor-type attack occur so Iraq and 6 other countries could be invaded.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

48. Makes you think there's more to the Atta story, doesn't it?

[noonwitch]

60. They should really look into the guy who ran the flight school in Florida

Something is really fishy about that guy. I think his name was Klinghoffer or something like that.

[lovuian]

50. This is getting interesting!!! Perfect Storm!!!

:bounce:

[sattahipdeep]

62. WHO BENEFITED from the Short Sell orders put on the two airlines

in the week prior to 9/11?

WHO?

[seemslikeadream]

65. Ask Buzzy Krongard sattahipdeep

I would if I could


Former CIA director appointed to board as outside US director - Krongard
Baltimore, MD (March 18, 2005) – DLA Piper Rudnick Gray Cary US LLP (DLA Piper), one of the world’s leading law firms, today announced the appointment of A.B. “Buzzy” Krongard as an outside U.S. director to its Global Board of Directors which has been organized to oversee and coordinate the worldwide operations of the firm. The board will be led by Senator George J. Mitchell who will serve as Chairman and continue his role as a partner within the firm.

Krongard is the former Executive Director of the Central Intelligence Agency and former Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of investment banking firm Alex. Brown, Incorporated. He currently is the Non-Executive Chairman of the Board of Directors of PHH Corporation, a leading outsource provider of mortgage and vehicle fleet management services.

“We’ve assembled a board of directors that reflects the global reach of the firm and the depth of our core practice areas,” said Senator Mitchell. “As a group and individually, we are firmly committed to guiding this firm during a period of tremendous global growth.”

In January 2005, DLA and Piper Rudnick merged to form a legal services organization with more than 2,800 lawyers in 49 offices in 18 countries around the world. The firm has concentrated its global practices into seven areas of focus which include Corporate and Finance; Litigation; Real Estate; Regulatory & Legislative; Commercial; Human Resources; and Technology, Media and Communications (TMC) practices.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=1332757


:hug:

[sattahipdeep]

71. "Spanish Guitar"

I don't see how you get the word out, but one tries because
there is nothing else to be done.

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/GI15Ak01.html

http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=20050913&articleId=941

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1778478&mesg_id=1778478

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[Miss Chybil]

64. Delete

:shrug:

[seemslikeadream]

66. I don't believe that is what Curt Weldon said

I just watched the press conference on CSPAN2 from yesterday and all he was saying was that they can not account for it all not that it all was destroyed.

Hopefully I will catch the rerun or watch it at CSPAN.org

and double check what I thought I heard