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NeoConsSuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 04:25 PM
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Rita could equal $5 gas
And oil executives have orgasms as they watch the weather channel.
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NEW YORK (CNN/Money) - Remember when gas spiked to $3-plus a gallon after Hurricane Katrina? By this time next week, that could seem like the good old days.

Weather and energy experts say that as bad as Hurricane Katrina hit the nation's supply of gasoline, Hurricane Rita could be worse.

Katrina damage was focused on offshore oil platforms and ports. Now the greater risk is to oil-refinery capacity, especially if Rita slams into Houston, Galveston and Port Arthur, Texas.

"We could be looking at gasoline lines and $4 gas, maybe even $5 gas, if this thing does the worst it could do," said energy analyst Peter Beutel of Cameron Hanover. "This storm is in the wrong place. And it's absolutely at the wrong time," said Beutel.

http://money.cnn.com/2005/09/21/news/economy/rita_threat/index.htm
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glugglug Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 04:28 PM
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1. This is why I invested in Harley Davidson during Katrina
Edited on Wed Sep-21-05 04:29 PM by glugglug
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 05:11 PM
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7. Honda would be a wise choice as well
Lots of young people probably considering a scooter.
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trogdor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 07:24 AM
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26. Went and got me one of these...


35 MPG around town, no matter how much I dog it.
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NickB79 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 12:45 PM
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31. Go Scion!
Love my xA! Keep it at 55-60 mph on the highway and you'll see 40+ mpg :-) Congrats.
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 02:55 PM
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35. I bought SCION 2 1/2 months ago!!! I love my car!!!
Edited on Thu Sep-22-05 02:57 PM by Rainscents
It gets very good gas millages!!!

Last gas tank, I got 45 mile per gallon!
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Im_Your_Huckleberry Donating Member (160 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 04:26 PM
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36. i like the boxy one.
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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 04:29 PM
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2. I'd say $4.00 easily ......
Edited on Wed Sep-21-05 04:31 PM by doublethink
$5.00? Maybe ... but for sure when Bush invades Iran, $5.00 easily like immediately. And who knows from there? :freak: Peace.

on edit: I should say when Bush bombs Iran, not too sure an invasion after this hurricane would be feasible no matter how bad his cronies want to. Bastards.
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glugglug Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 06:15 PM
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45. Is glass easier or harder to drill for oil through
than sand?
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TroubleMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 08:53 PM
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48. LOL....that question probably has been pondered in the White House

It's sad, but they probably have considered that.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 04:31 PM
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3. Rita=Repug jackpot, once again nt
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dethl Donating Member (462 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 04:32 PM
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4. That'll make most of us college students unable to drive....
At $5/gal, I won't be able to afford the gas at all, which means most of my fellow classmates won't be able to either. This is gonna suck.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 04:36 PM
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5. "Wrong place at the Wrong time"...
Oh, cry me a fucking RIVER. This storm is the best damn thing to happen to Oil Company stockholders since the creation of the Hummer...

And it'll fuck-up heating fuel prices this winter, too. Why? because all they have to say is "Rita really kicked our asses" and the BFEE will say "See? They have it rough, too. So wipe your dripping nose and just bust the ice in your toilet so you can piss while I sign this 47 billion-dollar Energy Industry Relief Bill of 2006...Nnow watch this drive!"
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 05:29 PM
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10. Excuse Boy wins again
This hereditary nobody uses excuse after excuse to justify his greedy selfishness. In the '00 campaign, the surplus and booming economy were proof that the rich should get a tax cut. When the economy softened, it was the old Reaganite excuse: stimulate the flaccid economy with a tax cut. Even though Mitch Daniels projected a $1 Billion defecit in August of '01, 9-11 was the cause of all budget woes. Excuse after excuse. This guy is the poster dork for shirking.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 05:35 PM
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11. Yeah, and now *WE* are stuck with "Mah May-un Meetch"...
He's our governator, you know....:(
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 04:38 PM
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6. $5.00 or more. I agree........
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 05:17 PM
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8. I haven't taken a commuter bus since my car got stolen at a park
n ride last year.

Crumb, I didn't want to go back. I hate the feeling when you get off the bus and your car isn't there. It's fucking traumatizing.

The Transit companies won't monitor the park-n-rides.
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Joebert Donating Member (726 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 08:01 PM
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16. We have the same problem here.
Every time I went to the one here, there would be another pile of glass where a windshield used to be.

No cameras, no witnesses.

It sucks.
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physioex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 09:41 PM
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17. Yea that's a real problem.......
Even the local Walmart has like 50 cameras in the lot. It can't cost that much more to install cameras......
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 10:09 PM
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19. It doesn't. What osts a lot is people to watch them all
Do you really think someone monitors all those cameras?

No way.
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physioex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 10:51 PM
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20. LOL.....
I don't think that each camera needs to be watched continuously, it simply not necessary or fesible like you mentioned. However when a crime does take place, there is a record. So I stand by my statement. And also the the tapes should be rewritten after a given time frame.


Or.....They could outsource the process to India.... ;)
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obxhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 01:52 PM
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32. My car was broken into while sitting in full view of a camera
They spent 2 hours riping my car apart, taking everything that was bolted down. The police told me that the car had been sitting in the best possible place for video taping a crime. 2 hours of tape and they never got the crooks.
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boise1 Donating Member (248 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 05:19 PM
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9. This model has been working nicely for me:
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 08:25 AM
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28. Giant is made in China. Buy an American made bike fer christs sake. n/t
Fuck Giant!

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boise1 Donating Member (248 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 10:07 AM
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30. That wouldn't be a laserjet printer on your desk, would it?
or an inkjet, or a cellphone, or any other consumer electronics item, virtually all of which are manufactured in China or other parts of Asia?
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chopper Donating Member (345 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 04:38 PM
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38. well
are there any cellphones or motherboards made in the US?

but i can sure as hell show you a quality bike that's made here.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 08:53 PM
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47. I can, too -- and the best is made in Canada
Rocky Mountain. Only three bikes still made in NA -- Specialized, RM, and I THINK Gary Fisher...
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CatholicEdHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 05:01 PM
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40. Actually all major bike parts are made in China
In Giant's case it is also assembeled over there. Otherwise most Trek parts are make in China, though assembeled over here in Wisconsin.
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oostevo Donating Member (293 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 05:09 PM
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42. Name one that's not
Name a bicycle that's made completely in America.

I can't. None of the major component manufacturers, Shimano, Campagnolo, and FSA, are US-based.

Even American-based companies don't build their cheap bikes here.

If you want to buy a very, very expensive mountain bike, you might be able to swing it, though. But that's not exactly a smart choice for someone who just wants to commute.
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DisgustedTX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 05:35 PM
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12. Finished my $2.80/gallon fill in TexAss this afternoon
Tomorrow is likely to begin a rapid gouge - they (BIG OIL) need a closer confirmation of a Houston-area hit before they can immediately raise to $4+.

At least the 3/8 of a tank I've used in 3 weeks only cost $19 f'ing $$ to re-fill!
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 05:37 PM
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13. Just filled up at 2.70
a freakin bargin nowadays :sarcasm:
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DiverDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 05:49 PM
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14. Both of our cars gets 28-33 MPG
My wifes 97 accord gets about 28, My 90 CRX, even with my vtec motor swap, gets anywhere from 30-33.

I just filled up for 2.89, and I spent 21.00...I was complaining about THAT.
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trogdor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 07:29 AM
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27. Reminds me of an argument I sometimes get into...
...where some freeper asshole tells me, "well you support terrorism, too. You buy gas, right?"

That's when I say, "I sure do, but my car gets 30 miles per gallon. If everyone's car was that thrifty with gas, we could tell the Saudis to kiss our asses. But that would mean you don't get to look cool in your big badass truck, so we can't."
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Kelvin Mace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 07:22 PM
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15. Is there no end to the money
the oil companies will make off our suffering?
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I_Will Donating Member (211 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 09:43 PM
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18. Increases across the board...because they can
I filled up tonight, prompted by a post that gas in Ontario, Canada had gone from $1/liter to $1.98/liter.

After saying the obligatory "thanks george" curse and heading inside to pay, I jokingly said to the guy at the counter, "So, how much is gas going to be in the morning?" Another clerk said, "why, is it supposed to go up?" I told them about the Ontario post and the first one said, "that's funny; we get all our gas from Canada, so nothing happening in the gulf will affect us."

We know about the "bigger picture"/futures-speculation/supply&demand thing, but it's infuriating how three stations within a few hundred feet of each other -- one selling 100% Canadian gas (Qwik Trip), one selling (I assume) Venezuelan gas (Citgo) and the other selling gas from who knows where (Mobil) -- are all selling it at $2.67/gal (outside of Madison, WI), and that we know the prices will move up in lockstep, regardless of source, cost-of-goods, overhead or any other "real" factor that most other businesses have to deal with.

Oh, well...just had to vent.

Good luck in the coming days.



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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 10:53 PM
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21. Time for a 100% windfall profits tax on the oil companies
Edited on Wed Sep-21-05 10:55 PM by high density
'till they get their prices under control. This new tax revenue can be spent on alternative fuel research.
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tainowarrior Donating Member (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 06:49 AM
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25. but they won't.
We could have already had an alternative fuel, and infrastructure laid down, if we were a society that actually planned their economic development.

We haven't moved an inch toward getting off the oil fix..and the drugs are starting to get hard to get.
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susanna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-21-05 11:22 PM
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22. Thankfully, I live only seven miles from work (I'm in a city).
Added to that, I still have my old '93 5-speed manual VW...it is paid off, what more can I say? It gets 28 MPG city. The thing just won't quit, and I will not get a new car until it does (and to that end, the old thing only has 56,000 miles on it).

I fill my tank every month or thereabouts. I accidentally mentioned that once, and I will say that it really ticked off my co-workers. Most of them drive in from the far suburbs (30+ miles) in SUVs. They are dying under these prices. I can only imagine what $5 will do. For the record, I am not an "I told you so," sort of person. So I just stay quiet and am grateful for the fact that my budget can handle gas (for now).
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 12:05 AM
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23. Fucking oil companies! More gouging!
I agree with those that are trying to fight the gouging by the oil companies. According to a recent study, oil prices would have had to hit 90 dollars a barrel to actually equal 3 dollars a gallon.

WHY doesn't any of the MSM TELL Americans about EXXON's RECORD 90 BILLION dollar profit for just LAST QUARTER??? Oh yeah, I forgot, the Mainstream media is a bunch of bloated, overpaid, insipid hacks who own oil stock AND make enough not to have to worry about gas.
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tainowarrior Donating Member (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 06:47 AM
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24. $5 gas
would mean $70.00 to get 14 gallons, which is what my tanks holds.

I can't afford $70 weekly. I drive a Nissan Pathfinder (sorry folks, it's a necessity, I'm a drummer/percussionist, and I need it to transport drums and equipment), and it's killing me.

I'm probably going to buy a long sedan style smaller car.
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adigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 09:36 AM
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29. I am thinking about a mini-cooper
The mileage is pretty good and they are just too cute, too!! I cannot sell my X-Terra, because I own a lot more than I can get for it, but I could save that for my kids - maybe, if gas ever goes down.
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termo Donating Member (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 05:02 PM
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41. mileage is pretty bad indeed...
except for the diesel one

in city:

the Mini One D (diesel):
5,8 l/100 km
(41.2 mpg)

the Mini One:
9,6 l/100 km
(24.9 mpg)

the Mini S:
11,8 l/100 km
(20.1 mpg)


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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 02:40 PM
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33. Filled up this morning, its already creeping up
The OIL men are salivating.
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 02:45 PM
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34. So glad I decided to take a road trip vacation to DC
:silly:
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Danmel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 04:29 PM
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37. This is going to raise school taxes
Districts haven't budgeted for gas and diesel prices this high - they won't be able to run the school buses.
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Dave Reynolds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 04:49 PM
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39. A 20 cent jump today,
and Rita is still a day and a half from landfall.
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 06:02 PM
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43. Coworker (in Toronto, ONT Canda) reports:
Regular unleaded petrol is $2.50Cdn / liter.

In dollars per gallon, that's over $8 per gallon (US).
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 06:11 PM
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44. Any chance Rita will sweep away all the Big Oil execs?
It'd be fun to see all them swept out to sea, sharing a large raft, stabbing each other in the back during the power grab to remain on the boat.
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 06:37 PM
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46. Just looked at chart of oil platforms offshore Texas
...in an energy newsletter. Based on the projected course of the storm the offshore damage could be huge.
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 09:02 PM
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49. This won't be a total gas company giveaway
If prices spike in California expect some serious lawsuits to hit the front pages, we have our own refineries and don't use the Texas or Louisiana ones as well as four major commercial ports that can handle the importation thankyouverymuch.
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