Schwarzenegger Seeks 'Bad Teacher' Stories

[Judi Lynn]

Schwarzenegger Seeks 'Bad Teacher' Stories
Gov. Schwarzenegger Requests 'Bad Teacher' Stories, Then Reconsiders
By JULIET WILLIAMS Associated Press Writer
The Associated Press

SACRAMENTO, Calif. Sep 21, 2005 — Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger's campaign posted a form on its Web site asking Californians for stories about inferior teachers to support the ballot initiative to lengthen teachers' probationary period.

The form was then removed Wednesday after an Associated Press reporter called to inquire about it.

Posted on the Web site http://www.joinarnold.com the form asked: "Have a story about a teacher who just might not be cut out for the job, yet nothing can be done because of tenure? Please tell us. We'd like to share the stories of Californians like you!"

It was part of Schwarzenegger's campaign in favor of Proposition 74, which would boost the probationary period for new teachers to five years from two years. The governor argues that it's nearly impossible for districts to get rid of poor teachers who have been in the classroom for years.
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http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=1147909

[Starbucks Anarchist]

1. We should seek Bad Governor stories.

60% of California voters could tell you about it.

[dusty64]

13. Thats exactly

what I was going to write.

[Cha]

24. Especially ones that got in

under a paid for recall by a billionaire who wanted the job himself and was cast aside in favor of the more greasy shovelnator.

[Im_Your_Huckleberry]

30. bingo.

[sakabatou]

51. Bingo the Clowno?

[Demeter]

42. How About Bad Republican Stories?

Those are a dime a dozen. Some of them even make the papers and media.

[XanaDUer]

62. Lol!

And bad actor stories.

:rofl:

[DrDebug]

2. How about finding inferior governors

I think I see one right there

[pinniped]

3. So much for this marvel idea.

--The form was then removed Wednesday after an Associated Press reporter called to inquire about it. --

I hope the word gets out about these sick repig tactics.

[longship]

4. How about some bad governor stories?

nt

[punpirate]

5. It's an old, old Repug tactic...

... generalizing from a particular. It was the basis of Reagan's welfare policies--the welfare queen driving a Cadillac. Same-same. *sigh*


edit for syntax

[trogdor]

12. Turns out the Caddy was 14 years old...

...with bad valves, bald tires, and a leaky radiator.

Any schmuck can buy a Cadillac that's 14 years old. At that point, it's no better than a Chevy.

[lolly]

50. Of Course!

I had a bad teacher once--I think it was in 5th grade.

Ergo, they should all have their salaries cut in half, have all job security snatched away, and be subject to firing if they say anything bad--on or off the job--about Republicans.

Actually, isn't this pretty much their plan for everyone?

[fasttense]

6. Why doesn't he just make it up?

I mean the repugs are always making up statistics and saying black is white. Why bother with the truth?

[fob]

34. They will. The "form" was the cover story for how they will answer

the question, "Where did you get THAT story".

[Sabriel]

7. Next up: Report bad parents

"Hey, kids! Do your parents bash the current government, take drugs, or talk about moving to another country? If so, give our hotline a call, and we'll help you out!"

How about reporting bad politicians, too?

What exactly is a "bad" teacher, anyway? Is it someone who challenges you to think for yourself and not accept what's being spoonfed to everyone else? That's what some parents might consider "bad."

[tainowarrior]

8. wow..that's dirty

demagouging teachers and asking the citizenry to remember whatever little incident they ever had with a teacher to now use it against them.

This lends itself to the settling of old scores and petty rivalries between teachers.

What an asshat!

[bleedingheart]

18. it could also lead to law suits

which would really make Arnie look like an even bigger asshat

[tainowarrior]

20. how about

inciting the citizenry into harrassment?

Teachers could claim that Arnold unfairly slandered all of them and opened them up to frivolous lawsuits from disgruntled former students.

You know, this stuff is very scary to me. I'm already used to considering the U.S. a nascent fascist state, but when the intelligentsia gets attacked and the ignorant masses are encouraged to "report" their teachers, it just smacks of the book-burning and hatred of intellectuals during the Nazi regime.

We already have the ignorant masses, we already have the religious zealotry, we already have the replacing of science with hokey religious theories, we already have the engaging in "pre-emptive" wars, we already have the promulgation of jingoistic, patriotic propaganda. And now the incitement to harrass or "report" teachers?

You just couldn't try harder to make America look fascist.

[WildClarySage]

9. In 12 years of public schooling,

I had two teachers that were "bad". Now I will grant you that both were sadistic abusive and had no business being around kids, but I think that statistically 2 outta 30+ teachers in 12 years, well that ain't too shabby.

[The Backlash Cometh]

11. There are no bad teachers. Just...

teachers who are requested to teach subjects they are not familiar with (an administrative issue), or teachers, mainly substitute teachers, who think their job is to baby-sit.

I had an incredible conversation on the net with a Libertarian who claimed he was a teacher. He condescendingly said that most of the minorities in his class were wrong-minded, but at least they were trying to better themselves. I reached the conclusion that these people had no right to get access to my child.

[Southpaw Bookworm]

19. Sometimes I think that's the result

Of an era when women had few options for working outside the home, and the bitterness it created in women who may have been terrific engineers but who had to settle for becoming a science teacher because engineering schools didn't admit women, or because of family pressure about a woman getting an education.

[Skittles]

21. ooh I remember such a teacher in the fifth grade

I loved drawing and painting until I got her as a teacher -she was so cold and cruel I dropped all my artistic endeavors after being in her art class.....I cannot remember her name but I'll never forget her face

[tainowarrior]

22. how about painting the face

and putting on the DU. We'll know who she is, AND it will jumpstart your artistic inspiration.

Don't let art go. My music is the only thing that keeps me going these days. That...and being touched by HIS noodly appendage (Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster).

[Skittles]

28. know what it would look like?

that bus driver on South Park

[tainowarrior]

33. hah, no way...

with braces and all?

[Bob3]

29. Not to sound like a cultist but have you read the Artist's Way

by Anne Cameron? Part of the book deals with how you can move past memories like this and give yourself permission to draw and paint and whatnot - All I really know is that it helped me - I write songs and even perform them from time to time - I would never had the nerve to do this if I had not read that book.I'm not going to make Brittany Spears lose any sleep but when something works it is like nothing in the world.

Again sorry to sound like a fan boy.

[Mark E. Smith]

10. Isn't Diva Arnold Being A Bit Of A Bitch Here?

Arnold talking about the criticism he has received from Warren Beatty: "There are some people who are close to him that say that he is just starving for attention and that's the way he gets attention ... I just think that he is jealous."

Kitten has claws!

[no_hypocrisy]

14. I confess! I confess! I am a Bad Teacher! I am not worthy!

I confess that as a substitute teacher in a surburban school system in northern New Jersey, levels of elementary and middle school that I TAUGHT THE KIDS HOW TO BE CRITICAL THINKERS. That's right. I taught them to use common sense, logic, and to question the teacher when they don't understand him/her. No Child Left Behind?! No siree! In in MY class. Hit-and-run liberal arts for these developing minds.

So, Arnold, come and get me. I'm the posterchild of everything you fear. I'm up there with Socrates, poisoning the minds of impressionable youth. I should be the kind of teacher mandated to be sequestered from the public schools.

[tanyev]

15. What's wrong, Arnold? Is the evil librul media only reporting

on good teachers and all the good things they do? Why can't they just tell the truth???????

[livetohike]

16. How about inferior corporate leaders or managers?

Let's do some company bashing :-).

[bleedingheart]

17. Well I see this backfiring...

if people come forward with heresay and unfounded stories...it will only backfire on him.

While people sometimes don't like teachers it is sometimes the parent that is the problem and people will make themselves look like petty assholes if they come forward with goofy stories....

[FlaGranny]

23. Well, there ARE bad teachers -

how about the ones who bring their personal politics and religion into the classroom? I hope that's the kind of complaints he gets - if he gets any at all. What a dope, though.

[Cha]

25. Yeah, we see a lot of those examples

on DU..maybe arnie can get some of those brought up before his voters..the ones who bring their religion to class and try to indoctrinate the kids. Would he lose his base?

[yellowcanine]

26. Shouldn't they have PLENTY of "bad teacher" stories IF the change is

justified? Otherwise it seems that the gropinator has com up with a solution and is now looking for the problem to justify it. Kind of cart before horsey of him, no?

[warrens]

27. Reminds me of the drowned business owner stories

Jeff Sessions was trying to find. What a vile pack of pukes. They make a decision based on their fucked up ideology, and only after it's made do they try to find any evidence to back up their crackpot theories. God, I loathe them.

[bmbmd]

31. How about some "Bad Actor"

stories? Won't have to look far....

[rocktivity]

32. I know of a GOVERNOR who "just might not be cut out for the job"

yet nothing can be done about until next year because he rewrote the very recall laws that got HIM into office!

:crazy:
rocknation

[fob]

35. I know about this one teacher, I know she was a Librarian, maybe a teacher

but anyway, one day while driving she ran a stop sign and smashed into another car and killed her ex-boyfriend.

Then that teacher/lie-brarian went on to have kids of her own with another "man" and one of those kids went to college to become a teacher and was reported to have accepted an inner-city teaching assignment only to then scuttle that in favor of tooling around the country on taxpayer money campaigning for her sperm donor*.

Arnie, you may be on to something here.

[caligirl]

36. Warren Beatty speaks to the Cali Nurses Association tonight/link

http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/09-19-2005/0004110775&EDATE=



Local news says he has somethings to tell Arnold. Noon news still to come.

[Lilyhoney]

37. I am going to send him this story. It fits like no other.

Does anybody remember this? I was outraged.

From Wikipedia>

California Secretary for Education
When Davis was removed by the 2003 California recall, there was speculation that Riordan might run for his office. However, after friend and fellow moderate Republican Arnold Schwarzenegger announced his intention to run, Riordan decided against running himself. He endorsed Schwarzenegger, and, following his victory, served on his transition team, and was appointed to the cabinet as Secretary for Education.

Not known for his eloquence, Riordan became the center of a media circus, due to a remark made July 1 2004 to a 6-year-old girl in Santa Monica. During a children's library event, a girl asked Riordan if he knew what her name, Isis, meant. Riordan responded, "it means stupid, dirty girl," laughed with several others in the crowd, and then asked her what it really meant. She then replied, "It means 'Egyptian goddess'," to which Riordan stated, "That's neat." He later explained it as a failed attempt at humor. Although Governor Schwarzenegger continues to support him, Riordan's resignation has been demanded by State Assemblyman Mervyn Dymally, citizens' rights groups, and civil rights groups, including the NAACP and LULAC. The NAACP, however, rescinded their insistence after learning that the girl was white.

[AlCzervik]

38. That is an excellent idea!!!

[Lilyhoney]

40. Thank you.

I will send it off after I check the source, I would have sworn that it happened here in Santa Barbara at the main library.

Blame the leadership, not the the teachers.

[ridgerunner]

39. Worst teacher story ever

[TroubleMan]

59. I was thinking the same thing

nt.

[shanti]

41. turnabout

i'll send him some GOOD teacher stories!;-)

[Baconfoot]

43. There IS NO such story because tenure doesn't guarentee you a job in CA

All it gets you is the right to a hearing if they want to fire you.

[nvliberal]

57. Anti-public education activists leave out that undeniable fact.

They want to paint "tenure" in public education as a lifetime job. It isn't. It is only a teacher having the right to a hearing before the district can fire him or her.

Every employee should have that right.

I was a "post-probationary" employee (i.e., tenured) at a public school district, but I was laid off two years ago because I had a temporary contract.

Remember, Arnold wants to ABOLISH tenure, and this initiative basically does it. It not only raises the probationary period, but if a teacher has two negative evaluations in a row after gaining tenure, he or she can be fired.

That little fact hasn't been pointed out by anybody except talk show host Bernie Ward of KGO.

[Baconfoot]

60. I'm really afraid of this proposition. All the public hears is "5 years"

All the public is hearing on this is that the time until you are eligible for tenure is increasing from two to five years. But that's NOT all this proposition would do, as you know.

I have started calling this election the... you'll have to pardon me for a moment but I have been calling it the... Fudge Public Education election because of propositions 74, 75 and 76.

I can't tell which of 73-76 I hate the most. Right now I am leaning towards 76 (that's the School Funding Limits one which effectively takes money away from schools but which also hysterically grants the Governor the power "under specified circumstances, to reduce appropriations of Governor's choosing, including employee compensation") but 73 also has a special place in my heart (that's the one which inserts language into the State Constitution defining abortion as "causing 'death of the unborn child, a child CONCEIVED but not yet born'")

73 is not just about parental notification anymore than 74 it just about increasing the number of years before a teacher is eligible for "tenure."

[Patchuli]

64. Arnold is low-life

trying to f*** with our lives as is *. And it's going to bite him in the ass, just like it's now biting *. Everyone hates Arnold, even most repugs and * is getting there too. I have now had two republican friends tell me in the last couple weeks that they are sorry they ever voted for *, are embarrassed and horrified and want nothing to do with the party as long as it's run by these freaks.

Arnold is not going to hamfist California like * has hamfisted U.S. in general. This will NOT EVER be a red state! 74 punishes teachers, 78 gives more of our money to buy prescriptions,

I have read the props and know that I'm am voting : No on Prop 75. No on Prop. 76, No on Prop. 74 and No on Prop. 78. 75 cheats firefighters, police, nurses, teachers, and school staff on paychecks and as to how union dues can be used. Ruse to limit Democrats from contributing. 76 just plain cuts school funding and allows Governator to ignore the voter approved Prop. 98 which approves of minimum funding for school, fire, police, and let's him cut them. It also lets him off the hook for the two billion dollars Schwarzenegger (I hate typing that name) 'borrowed' from the school system and doesn't want to pay back (even with his photo op business he can't make enough extra to pay his debts?! LOL)

I detest this guy. I used to occasionally watch one of his movies. Now? I couldn't listen to his voice or look at that face. uuuekkkk!

Yes on Prop. 79 and Yes on Prop. 80. These two are for cheaper RX prices in CA and for affordable electricity and preventing blackouts. The rest of that is special interest crap!!!

[mitchum]

44. mitchum seeks bad Austrian stories

hmmmm...
C'mon, I know there have to be a few out there...

That teutonic douchebag can go to hell

[geniph]

45. One of my brothers is a new math teacher in California

and he frigging HATES Ah-nuld. I'm going to forward this to him - he'll go ballistic. I'll bet he starts a recall petition.

[Fight_n_back]

46. I knew a guy who took steroids so he would look better in a swim suit

but he wasn't a teacher, not in the least.

[Orsino]

47. 'Cuz he couldn't find any good teacher stories...

...to prove he's doing a good job?

No, he's just de-cloaked as part of the movement to dismantle public schooling.

[xxqqqzme]

48. well that should really endear him...

I was volunteering yesterday @ Alliance for a Better California and They R so organized, I was thrilled 2 see something other than the CDP is out there fighting this fight. We might have a chance.

[Megahurtz]

49. What a caring and compassionate man! n/t

:sarcasm:

[onager]

52. I think he means stories about teachers...

...in leather greatcoats with SS insignia, bustiers, garter belts and fishnets. With whips, chains and GREAT BIG...paddles. I mean, this IS Arnold we're talking about...

Or maybe he means bad teachers like the degenerate liberal child-rapist Mary Kay LeTourneau...

Whoops, she was the daughter of a REALLY bad teacher, far-right konservative kook John Schmitz. Who knocked up not just one but TWO of his college students.

[teryang]

53. Anecdotal evidence, the obscurantists' substitute for reason

...makes great propaganda though.

[PassingFair]

54. Do the people of California

...still think this guy is cool?
Are the superficial celebrity lovers still entranced?
Where's Mr. GrabAss polling now?
Anyone?

[goforit]

55. Arnold going on a witch hunt, eh?

Whata a schmuck.

[jbm]

56. I live in a very red area..

My son has a science teacher who refuses to teach evolution, a history teacher who spends her days teaching 'anti-liberalism', and a math teacher who fasted for 40 days last year before the election, so that God would let Bush win. By day 20 the math teacher had totally stopped teaching and spent the day strumming his guitar and singing gospel songs. Can I submit them?

[onager]

61. Good grief! Where do you live?

And why are they recruiting teachers from the insane asylum?

[jbm]

66. central Missouri...

and I really understand now the importance of the school board. It's not a total loss here..there is one wonderfully liberal teacher up there who does her best to counter the cons. There is also a group of liberal retired teachers who have filed several complaints over the conservative influence in the school.

I'm hoping we can get some of the retired teachers to run for the school board next election. I'm beginning to believe that the school board is a precursor of where the culture will go. Anyway, keep an eye on your school board!

[onager]

70. Good luck!

I'm in the Los Angeles area, where Fundies getting on the school board isn't a problem (yet).

This has happened in more rural parts of California, like Vista, down by San Diego.

AFAIK, there's a pattern whenever the Fundies have seized a majority on a school board out here.

Since they're unable to compromise, they immediately over-reach and start trying to ram thru idiocies like banning evolution and sex education, and forbidding any mention of homosexuality.

This enrages the reality-based voters, who throw them out of office ASAP.

[barb162]

58. those two photos are GREAT together!!!!

[Patchuli]

63. I'd rather answer a form

about what a shitty 'governor' he is. He's the worst by far. A true creature of Karl Rove.

I'm so sick of these f***ing neocons!!!!!!!!!

[Rex]

65. I vil terminat al zee teechers!

"I vil go back in time and terminate the first teecher so ve can all be stupid fucking Repukes robotz!"

[peekaloo]

67. Find the one who taught him English, for starters.

[philosophie_en_rose]

68. Does he mean Kindergarten Cop?

That was a downright shitty teacher story.

[Darth_Kitten]

69. Someone should make Arnie sit in the corner......

and stop bothering the other children.

No cookies for you at recess time, Arn-uld. :(