Attorney general announces voter fraud probe

[Judi Lynn]

Attorney general announces voter fraud probe

September 21, 2005, 7:40 PM EDT

TRENTON, N.J. -- The state will oversee a county-by-county investigation into allegations of widespread voter fraud brought by Republicans, the Attorney General's Office announced Wednesday.

In a letter dated Wednesday and sent to lawyers representing the Republican State Committee, Attorney General Peter Harvey said the state would coordinate the probe and report its findings. However, the investigation must be conducted at the county level, he said, because that is where official voter registration records are kept.

New Jersey Republicans last week called on Harvey to review state election rolls, saying a four-month investigation by the party uncovered widespread irregularities. The GOP asked Harvey's office to conduct an investigation before Oct. 11, the last day New Jerseyans can register to vote before the Nov. 8 election.

More than 6,500 voters cast ballots in New Jersey and another state in last November's election, while 4,755 ballots were cast by deceased voters, according to Republican State Committee Chairman Tom Wilson.
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http://www.newsday.com/news/local/wire/newjersey/ny-bc-nj--voterfraud0921sep21,0,3448394.story?coll=ny-region-apnewjersey

[DoYouEverWonder]

1. While they're at it, how about OH and FL?

Or are they just going to investigate fraud in the states that Dems win?

[madmom]

4. Been saying for years...

the snowbirds from Ohio vote the Nov. elections here in Oh. with an absentee ballot and in Fl. with a regular ballot.

[oneighty]

6. I heard one Snowbird at the local VFW post

(a well known local republican) bragging about being a two state voter. New York and Florida.

A local republican appointee in a large nearby city was caught doing so. Same republican had falsified his military service details as well.

There is something about republicans.

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[madmom]

8. A lot of our farmers here in Oh.

inherited the land and contract it out to be farmed.They don't know shit about farming or managing the land.All they know is they get a big enough check to go south for the winter, and vote in two states.Their only interest is the back inheritance tax that has to be paid when they sell the property, just another one of those devisive issues the repukes love to use.

[oneighty]

9. That reminds me

of an oyster and clam lease in South Carolina owned by a family that moved to California (From South Carolina) and still had legal control over who could harvest clams and oysters from "their" lease and of course pay them a percent of the catch.

There is not doubt in my mind that they too were/are two state voters.

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[madmom]

10. Our problem with these types is compounded...

in that property tax (the shit they are dodging and trying to beat)pays for education. Now it is spilling over into the rest of the country.We can't wait to get out of Ohio.Three children have left now so it won't be long for us.Adios MF

[electropop]

18. And maybe a look at election fraud in addition to voter fraud.

Seeing as election fraud was vastly larger than voter fraud, and the side that committed the election fraud ended up taking office. Just saying.

[In Truth We Trust]

23. Maybe KKkarl is registered there too! Paper ballots NOW! Hand counts NOW!

[annabanana]

2. Rove's Boys seem to be targeting NJ..

There is a dreadful "Democrats for Forrester" ad all over the airways in the NY Metro area right now.. and at least one of those "Democrats"s' bona fides are more than suspect.

see this thread in the NJ forum.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=167&topic_id=2509&mesg_id=2509

[The Backlash Cometh]

3. I'm convinced that Republicans show their hand. We just don't read

the signs. They always accuse Democrats of doing things that they routinely do themselves. We should have paid very close attention to the things they were accusing Clinton of doing in the 90s, because it appears that Rove and other Republicans have been guilty of doing the same things.

[madmom]

5. Called a pre-emptive strike...n/t

[electropop]

19. They must have pulled a load of dirty crap in NJ.

Just gotta broaden the investigation a little.

[dusty64]

7. If New Jersey

uses vapor vote machines, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE include these in the investigation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[anotherdrew]

11. political parties should not have access to voter registration data

without it, they would not be able to gerrymander the districts into "safe seats". Privacy alone should be reason enough to prevent them from getting it.

[november3rd]

12. NJ Voter Fraud Investigation

This will be great! They'll find that the double voters were GOP voters!

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[loudsue]

14. The WHOLE COUNTRY needs to investigate the 2004 elections

Every single state needs to do this....complete with forensic investigations of the voting machines.

:kick::kick::kick:

[mod mom]

15. Decoy for the ELECTION FRAUD that they pulled off in OH and elsewhere.

AG didn't have time to read Conyers and the House Judiciary Staff's "What Went Wrong in Ohio".

I have a great story about "voter fraud". I met with OH State Senator Jefry Armbruster R-Lorain during a Common Cause Lobby Day on Election Reform. When I brought up how provisional ballots were handled in Ohio, Sen Armbruster told me that the real fraud was Dems dragging drunks out of bars to vote and if I was truly interested in ending election fraud I would be advocating breath analyzers for voters."

I KID YOU NOT!

[Griffy]

27. OBFISCATE.. timing.. Carter just stated Gore won publicly...

after the Carter Baker fiasco... we all knew Baker was there to undermine!

This is about premptive strike... if the media looks into '04 they will come up with the evoting stats and other facts we all know. This can be balanced against "claims" like this. If there was fraud then its wrong either way... but the 2 stolen elections must be exposed!

Kerry won!

[ourbluenation]

16. RECK- OH - MEN - DID!!!!

Bastards...bastards...curse these bastards to hellfire.

[Nothing Without Hope]

17. This is about those famous few illegal Dem votes that were mentioned

over and over around the time of the election. They must be feeling some heat to turn up the spin this way.

We need to counterblast with the truth about the election being stolen and DEMAND an investigation of the REAL evidence.

[satya]

20. Hmm...& Jimmy Carter now says Gore won . Something big about to break? n/t

[stickdog]

21. Voters have to go to a lot of trouble to get even ONE extra vote

in the ballot box.

Meanwhile, fraud-o-matic voting machines make changing thousands of votes as easy as clicking a mouse with NO POSSIBILITY of any audit.

Which of these types of fraud concerns Repukes? Why is no one surprised?

[peace_on_earth]

22. Maybe it's pre-emptive attack on Dieb-Throat allegations...

* EXCLUSIVE! * A DIEBOLD INSIDER SPEAKS!
DIEB-THROAT : 'Diebold System One of Greatest Threats Democracy Has Ever Known'
Identifies U.S. Homeland Security 'Cyber Alert' Prior to '04 Election Warning Votes Can be 'Modified Remotely' via 'Undocumented Backdoor' in Central Tabulator Software!


In exclusive stunning admissions to The BRAD BLOG some 11 months after the 2004 Presidential Election, a "Diebold Insider" is now finally speaking out for the first time about the...

In exclusive stunning admissions to The BRAD BLOG some 11 months after the 2004 Presidential Election, a "Diebold Insider" is now finally speaking out for the first time about the alarming security flaws within Diebold, Inc's electronic voting systems, software and machinery. The source is acknowledging that the company's "upper management" -- as well as "top government officials" -- were keenly aware of the "undocumented backdoor" in Diebold's main "GEM Central Tabulator" software well prior to the 2004 election. A branch of the Federal Government even posted a security warning on the Internet.

Pointing to a little-noticed "Cyber Security Alert" issued by the United States Computer Emergency Readiness Team (US-CERT), a division of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, the source inside Diebold -- who "for the time being" is requesting anonymity due to a continuing sensitive relationship with the company -- is charging that Diebold's technicians, including at least one of its lead programmers, knew about the security flaw and that the company instructed them to keep quiet about it.

"Diebold threatened violators with immediate dismissal," the insider, who we'll call DIEB-THROAT, explained recently to The BRAD BLOG via email. "In 2005, after one newly hired member of Diebold's technical staff pointed out the security flaw, he was criticized and isolated."

Article here:

http://www.bradblog.com/archives/00001838.htm

And a bunch of updates here (Diebold stock tanks, etc):

http://www.bradblog.com

Brad Friedman rocks!!

[yurbud]

26. this is most likely--seems to be a favorite GOP tactic accuse

someone of your own crimes before they accuse you. Makes the person who does it second look like a "me too."

[Griffy]

28. EXACTLY.. its scary how easy we can read them.. the patterns nt

[yurbud]

30. the more often they do it, the less effective it becomes

even if people don't see through it, they get bored with it.

[mom cat]

24. Maybe this will crack it open!

[brentspeak]

25. This has mostly to do with the upcoming NJ gubernatorial race

Republican Doug Forrester has been spamming the local airwaves here with commercials featuring "former Democrats" who've become sick of "Democratic corruption". The push by the NJ Republicans to look into alleged voter fraud is meant to imply that NJ Democrats are "corrupt", and that the Republicans are "honest" because they are the ones requesting the investigation.

In truth, and what the NJ Republicans don't want anyone to know, is that there already HAVE been requests by NJ Democrats to look into any and all voting irregularities in the state.

GOP mudslinging, meant to directly or indirectly dirty Jon Corzine, will only get worse as we get closer to Election Day.

[ladylibertee]

29. Good.Someone is still looking into this.I just hope that when it's

time to impeach bush,it wont be too late.What good is trying to fire someone who's no longer working?:shrug: