Carter says Gore won 2000 election

[jasmeel]

Former U.S. president Jimmy Carter delivered a shocker at an American University panel in Washington Monday: RAW STORY has learned he told the crowd he was certain Al Gore won the 2000 presidential election.

There is "no doubt in my mind that Gore won the election," the erstwhile President declared, saying the 2000 election process "failed abysmally."

He also snubbed the Supreme Court for getting involved, saying it was "highly partisan."

http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Carter_says_Gore_won_2000_el_0922.html

[acmavm]

1. Jimmy is just voicing the obvious. But then again, only Jimmy has had

the guts to tell it like it is.

Thank goodness for Jimmy Carter.

[okieinpain]

48. not guts, balls.

[teknomanzer]

94. Intestinal fortitude...

Cowards can have testicles you know...

[kestrel91316]

95. He doesn't have to answer to anybody, so he is free to speak his mind.

Jimmy, YOU ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!

:bounce: :yourock: :woohoo:

[benburch]

2. But we all knew this already.

I am glad he is finally saying that.

[electropop]

46. Breaking news: Attila invades Europe.

When will he get what happened in '04?

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

89. Apparently he'll say something in 4 more years.

:shrug:

[IndianaGreen]

97. The Pope is Catholic!

How come Carter did not speak up earlier? How about 2004 Ohio, as you alluded to electropop?

[jasmeel]

3. I didn't know he created FEMA! He must be pissed at what *

did to it!

[mvd]

50. Yep

FEMA has become an insignificant part of an already mismanaged Department of Homeland Security.

Many people, even some Repukes, have respect for Carter. So, let's get the word out! If I was Gore, I wouldn't have formally conceded at all. Just said that there was nothing more he could do.

[Gregorian]

4. Woah Nelly.

I feel hollow and empty.

He really backed us up. All the way to 2000. Wow.

[Demeter]

5. I Am Speechless With Admiration

President Carter was and is a difficult, prickly man, but he never told an untruth that I am aware of. He often bit his tongue far more than was good for his career, maybe even for the country, but to come out publicly with this statement goes beyond courage and public duty. We have another spokesman!

[tainowarrior]

6. yes, THANKYOU CARTER!

Maybe the MSM will cover it (i'm not holding my breath).

[goclark]

9. He is an honest man -think he must smell a rat with Baker

and he is trying to finally tell the TRUTH.

Keep it coming Jimmy ,come on , you can do it!

[loyalsister]

120. At a time of universal deceit- telling the truth is revolutionary

I saw that bumper sticker today!
Who knew we would find a Revolutionary in such a gentleman?

[Hawkeye-X]

7. Another one for the No Shit Sherlock file.

That's why I CONTINUE to refuse to recognize Chimp as the legitimate President.

We are still in a Constitutional crisis.

[samsingh]

8. look at all the destruction that bush the thief has caused.

[aquart]

10. Because he never had to worry about the voters.

We were always irrelevant. He had to please his donors, who bought and paid for the election.

Repeating: There was NO Miracle of the Religious Bigots. That was the cover story for all those stolen Democratic votes.

[Uncle Joe]

66. Well said, he also never had to worry about the

corpwhorate owned MSM that enabled him to power after their two year War Against Gore.

[hardrainfallin]

79. YEP! Keep saying it. nt

[Kolesar]

11. Right after the Carter-Baker Commission finishes its election report

Baker probably just tore Jimmy's name out of his Rolodex. Good for President Carter. It's time to proclaim it Bush is illegitimate

[Raster]

23. james baker investigating election irregularities...words leave me

this is like asking the fox to investigate why the hens are disappearing from the hen house.

[Jackpine Radical]

32. Baker SUPERVISED the election irregularities in FL 2000.

[Kolesar]

40. Yeah, old Bush flew him in to manage the affair

...according to Greg Palast

[Raster]

45. james baker, consigliore to the texas white-boy petroleum mafia and

stage manager for coup d'etat 2000. Of course he should be in charge of investigating election irregularities, he knows where the bodies (literally and figuratively) are buried... he helped plant 'em.

[Uncle Joe]

67. I wonder if it was an Enron Jet that he flew on?

[Uncle Joe]

113. Breaking News: Cain now in charge of homicide division. n/t

[himself]

42. Bastard President

You so right. He is illegitimate. Or put another way, a bastard. Doesn't this give us a new meme: the bastard prsident? Works for me.

[slackmaster]

12. Too little and waaaaaay too late

Jimmy,

You were the first person I ever voted for. You were a fine President, but you lack backbone.

[asjr]

19. Carter has always been someone who sees good in

people. I feel certain he never envisioned what has happened. I was like him until 1992. Now I am one of the most cynical persons around. I dismiss nothing.

[okieinpain]

49. man, you could not more wrong. jimmy is the only one in the last

20 years that had any type of backbone. the guy did not blow in the wind, like ronnie, george1, and billy boy.

[Mad_Dem_X]

60. Exactly - Jimmy has always been truthful and

good-hearted. I applaud him.

[Voltaire99]

80. You're right. This doesn't do a damn bit of good now.

It may make a few partisans happy, but the time for Carter to have spoken has long since past.

Carter, Kerry, the Clintons: all have played along with this perversion of our democracy, pretending it was business as usual.

The meek inherit nothing, least of all the earth.

[GR]

13. The Destruction Of The Carter Presidency Was The Precursor

for the model the right wing noise machine has used to attempt the destruction of the Clinton Presidency, and partially succeed, and the destruction of the candidacies of Al Gore and John Kerry.

It was just that when it happened with Carter, we hadn't seen the template used effectively before and blamed it on Carter's ineptness.

Now we know better and so does Jimmy...

[jaysunb]

37. How right you are !

Add the media to the misdirection and you have total disinformation as to the facts.

[okieinpain]

52. that did not happen until the mergers. which clinton has to take

some of the blame for.

[NewJeffCT]

117. the media was deferential to Reagan

and were much tougher on the far less conservative Nixon.

[shanti]

63. they've destroyed EVERY

dem presidency from what i've seen, it didn't start with carter, although they became more blatant at that stage.

[donkeyotay]

70. For a little light reading on the Titanic

try Gary Sick's book, "October Surprise: America's Hostages in Iran and the Election of Ronald Reagan."

St. Reagan should have been impeached and his GOP gang imprisoned. But, of course, Bush Sr. pardoned the few who ever faced time and many are now back in power and running junior's affairs.

Gary Sick was an intelligence analyst and double-sourced all his facts... unfortunately, he does not name all the names. One striking item from the book is that Carter was going to clean up covert operations and in fall, 1977 the "Halloween Massacre" reduced the number of operatives from 1200 to 400. The CIA was really pissed, and many went to work on Reagan's election team. Sick says many had Reagan/Bush bumberstickers displayed with Reagan's name cut off.

You know, if this corruption goes on for a few more decades it could harm the country...

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

90. The key word that the RW used to sow dissent with the Carter

presidency was "vacillate." I still hear it from time to time. It was the precursor(dumbed-down version} of "flip-flop."

[Charles19]

98. Iran is what cost Jimmy re-eletion

only repugs are low class enough to capitalize on a foreign powers medalling in our democracy. And only Bush is low class enough to steal an election _and_ have the least amount of humility of any president in the history of the United States. At this point I wouldn't be surprised if the repugs just did away with elections altogether and just renamed the presidency to the Empororship.

[swimmernsecretsea]

14. Since leaving office...

President Carter has proven himself in many ways. He has worked for the public good, and has supported and performed many humanitarian efforts. One of his qualities, which occassionally gave him trouble with a news media that was moving ever closer to substituting words of substance with sound-bites and USA Today quips that would interpret his plain-spoken words into something meant to be embarrassing.

I've always considered this plain-spoken quality a good thing of his, and today I'm even prouder that he's stated what we've all been thinking about that fateful election.

[okieinpain]

53. you're right, not even the clinton's or any of there people have had

the balls to come right out and say it. ususally it's we need to move on.

[TrogL]

15. Is he saying that in an official capacity?

Isn't he on a UN board having to do with elections?

[melody]

16. This is a major breakthrough in terms of public information

This is a former President admitting the election was stolen. IMHO, this is f'ing amazing. Of course *we* knew that, but the fact Carter feels comfortable enough to admit that is a very strong sign to hope.

[demo dutch]

17. His statement is coming 5 years too late!

[daninthemoon]

24. At least he is saying it now. It would havebeen REAL good to hear

it during this last election, though. I don't remember it coming up at all.

[tainowarrior]

25. the most he said

was that there was legitimate problems with the elections and closed-source voting machines.

I don't want Carter to just say it, I want him to lead a march demanding impeachment of President Bush and a truth commission on how he stole that election. Otherwise, this will just go down the memory hole.

[superconnected]

18. Carter and Clinton have entered new terratory

If what I read about Clinton yesterday is correct(when he spoke about Bushs bad job) ex-presidents don't diss future presidents. Not till now.

These two are stepping up. YAHOO!!!

[qnr]

127. The operative word is "presidents," which doesn't apply to * n/t

[clydefrand]

20. This comment was made on Monday. We're just now hearing

about it? I did a search and read several accounts of this panel. Not one of them mentioned this important message. I'll be happier when I see the video of his saying these words.

Don't get me wrong. I'm a supporter of President Carter and have been before and since I voted for him. We need more like him who gives of himself for the common good.

[mod mom]

21. WE KNOW THIS, but it is an important 1st step in informing the sheeple!

That it came from a former president is big news!

[otohara]

116. They'd Never Admit It

for years they've been screaming on how George Bush won, fair and square! Sickenening denial.

[Digit]

22. Wow

That took some guts...thanks Jimmy!

[cassiepriam]

26. Now for the real test, will the sheeple care?

Or will the media even pick the story up...

[Demobrat]

27. This is just sad.

NOW he says something? When it's too late to make a difference in a way, shape or form?

Thanks Jimmy - for nothing.

[daninthemoon]

30. Still needs to be said, though. Loud and often.

[BamaBecky]

28. Where is the MSMedia on this one? Ha Ha Ha Ha.........n/t

[redqueen]

29. Wow. Way to show some integrity, Carter.

I'm impressed.

Now step up, congressional DEMS!

[lutefisk]

31. His FEMA quote is interesting-

Looks like Bush hit the trifecta on FEMA, too. The reverse Midas touch in action. Reading this quote, one can clearly see the Bush touch in action:

When I founded FEMA "we put it together with three specific commitments," Carter remarked. "One, that it would be led highly trained professionals in dealing with disasters. Secondly, that it would be completely independent and not under another agency that would submerge it. And third, that it would be adequately funded."

[rateyes]

74. And, then added...

"All three of those principles have been violated."

[CreekDog]

109. It bugs me also that Lieberman championed the Homeland Security thing

putting FEMA under them.

Has Lieberman had one good idea in 15 years?

[slor]

33. SLOR says Carter is right, and adds...

that Kerry won the 2004 election too!

[davekriss]

91. Agrees with SLOR

And it may be a long time before a truly democratically elected President gains office again. The capitulation of the Democrats on and after December 12 2000 indicates various degrees of complicity, complacent personal entrenchment, and outright fear. It was a mistake of immense consequences for Gore to cooperate "for the sake of orderly transition" -- but more so was Clinton's "cooperation" in allowing things like the the Telecommunications Act of 1996, which furthered the concentration of major media in the hands of the oligarchic few. Now look at the fine mess we're in, Ollie!

(Don't even get me started on Black Box Voting in Georgia in 2002 and in the Presidential election of 2004, just one of many corruptions of the electoral process, but a fatal one I think.)


Freedom is never voluntarily given by the oppressor. It must be demanded by the oppressed.
-- Martin Luther King

[nvliberal]

100. Most Democrats didn't KNOW what was happening in this country.

What you have to understand is both Clinton and Gore still believed the political system worked. What they didn't know at the time was there was a rising movement of fascism in the Republican Party, a branch of the party which had as its goal a one-party country, and after their attempt at a coup (impeaching Clinton for nothing) failed, they succeeded in installing their puppet my any means possible, even illegitimate.

The elected Democrats' ONLY error during that time was not understanding what was going on. They thought election 2000 was an aberration, and so did most of the public.

But people who DID know what was going on sat on their butts and did nothing to prevent Bush from taking office. That's because we take our system for granted. People in other democratic countries would NEVER have stood for having a court install a popular vote-losing president.

[davekriss]

107. "Clinton and Gore still believed ...

... the political system worked". Now I don't believe that. Not by 1998 anyway, not after the call for impeachment. (Was Hillary hallucinating when complaining about the vast rightwing conspiracy? They knew.) By that time the fascist assault IMO was full blown obvious to anyone with an IQ above 100. Now, if you were to say no one quite knew what to do about it, that's another matter. Wiemar Republic 1933-1934 if you ask me...

[Uncle Joe]

114. I believe that Al Gore

had ultimate faith in the American People to discern the truth, in spite of the vast right wing conspiracy that Hillary spoke of. The corpwhorate owned MSM made this next to impossible up until at least the 2000 elections. I also believe the real reason for the corpwhorate owned MSM's cheer leading of the witch hunt against Clinton was a back door attempt at keeping Al from coming to power.

[Marthe48]

119. I saw the Gores on a TV interview about 2 years ago

and they mentioned that there were mobs screaming death-threats surrounding the vice-president's home in DC 24/7 during the months after the 2000 elections. They had to move their kids to other rooms both for quiet and safety. What good can you say about a crowd screaming for the death of a family? Remember the pictures of the gang terrifying the old vote counters in Florida? If you had the same kind of thugs in your front yard, it'd be pretty hard to hang tough, and even harder if you didn't believe you had the support of the majority. I think if the MSM had reported about that, maybe things would be a whole lot different. But we didn't hear that, so we have a dictator in the White House and our nation is going to hell in a hand basket.

[Hissyspit]

34. Former President criticizing current "office holder" - unprecedented?

[Stinky The Clown]

35. MSM vs BBV ...... this shows that MSM is the bigger issue

In order to get the country on board with the need for election reforms - to get the citizenry out in the streets with torches and pitchforks - we need stories like this to be told by the MSM. Until that happens, I fear all the work we could possibly do about the BBV crap will go nowhere.

Until people know fully the magnitude of the problem, it can't get any legs.

And this is an issue that will cause **all** the citizenry to stand up and take notice.

But they need to know. And until the MSM - or as I like to call them, The Three Monkey Media - tells the whole story, it is just a simmering issue that will never boil over.

[Peace Patriot]

61. The war profiteering corporate news monopolies have not only NOT...

...told the truth about the last 3 elections ('00, '02 and '04), in 2004, they FALSIFIED election data. Late on election day, Nov. 2, 2004, the TV networks, acting in concert, ALTERED their own exit polls (Kerry won) to "fit" the "official results" derived from Diebold's and ES&S's SECRET, PROPRIETARY programming code (Bush won)--thus denying the American people major evidence of election fraud, and squelching protests and calls for investigation.

Kerry won the news consortium's independent exit polls by a 3% margin (not counting vast Dem vote suppression--just polls of voters who made it to the polling booth).

Diebold and ES&S said Bush won by 2.5% (non-transparent, unverifiable result).

The news consortium DOCTORED those numbers to HIDE EVIDENCE that Bush did not win. (Alert bloggers caught screen shots--and it later came out that Kerry won in all the national and state exit polls.)

Diebold and ES&S are far rightwing corporations.

-------

Nobody told the American people that Diebold and ES&S had gained private control over the vote tabulation with SECRET, PROPRIETARY programming code--code so secret that not even our secretaries of state are permitted to review it.

Nor did the Democratic Party leadership.

[Stinky The Clown]

75. I know all that. You know all that. And therein lies the truth to my posit

Unless the media report this, we'll never get verifiable voting again.

[AzDar]

36. BUSH is NOT PRESIDENT!!!! .....but WE already knew that, didn't we?

[raysr]

38. Why the fuck is

he hooked with Baker???

[robbedvoter]

39. That's why he embraced W on the WH lawn right after examining Fla

then led the attacks on Clinton.
yeah, Jimmy, I noticed Gore won too - I am even one of the few who still knows kerry won as well. So, why now?

[davidinalameda]

41. Thank you Mr. President!!!!!!

Gotta love Jimmy!

[The Backlash Cometh]

43. Thank you Jimmy Carter. Show the Democrats the way.

[fshrink]

44. You bet your ass he has.

It's about time someone dares. Of course, that's not really "fuzzy and soft".

[autorank]

47. Well, damn. There is hope. I'd been on Carter for the voter ID

recommendation. This is huge! Of course, it's not been reported except in our media. Get this out.

lala_rawraw and the Raw Story Crew :hug:

[4_Legs_Good]

51. Jimmy's not an idiot

and it would take an idiot to think that George Jr. won that election.

It's astonishing looking back at Florida in 2000 and seeing the machine at work. Bizarre how our country was stolen from us.

Go Jimmy, you are my favorite American!

david

[wakemewhenitsover]

54. RE-ELECT PRESIDENT GORE!

[Uncle Joe]

68. Double Ditto!! n/t

[wakemewhenitsover]

73. I'll ditto myself: "RE-ELECT PRESIDENT GORE"!!

:bounce:

[Uncle Joe]

76. Just don't do it too much or you will go blind.

:)

[wakemewhenitsover]

82. lol Anyone have photo of phony demonstrators Cheney sent to FL?

[rateyes]

77. I'm on board if he's on board...

Come on Al, we need you!

[cassiepriam]

55. Duh. Took you 6 years to figure this out??

I love you Jimmy, so I guess it is better late than never. Now what are you gonna do about it? Can you help us restore free elections??

[WI_DEM]

78. I don't think it has took him six years to speak out on this or any

issue.

[wakemewhenitsover]

56. What took you so long, Jimmy? Wish someone asked about 2004...

[mongo]

57. Thank you President Carter!

You are an honest and honorable man.

Thank you so much for all the good work you do!

[Up2Late]

58. That's great. Either he is VERY angry with what's going on right now...

...or he is finally realizing how much of a scumbag James Baker3 is, and how much his reputation is being hurt by teaming up with James Baker3.

[Mad_Dem_X]

59. Thank you, Jimmy!

What a guy! :toast:

[bluedeminredstate]

62. That sleaze Baker was allowed by the MSM

to repeat his mantra "the votes have been counted, and counted, and counted, and counted again!!" That was absolutelty untrue but he repeated it enough unchallenged so that the public began to believe it. They also let him get away with the completely illogical statement that machines should be trusted over humans in doing a recount. Hell, the automatic recount showed mistakes in the hundreds that cut Bush's lead by about 75%! But not a peep about the fact that the law called for the automatic recount and human beings were capable of interpreting ballots rejected by the machine if there was a legal vote on that ballot - no one challenged his ridiculous assertions and nasty partisanship.
Why he would be asked to sit on this commission when his only experience for this issue is stealing an election is astounding. :crazy:
Carter has decades of election experience and should have had an equal to accomplish this report. :patriot:

[Baconfoot]

64. Good because he did. Just one more reason to go for Gore in '08NT

[Dover]

65. Is Carter attempting to bring credibility to the Carter/Baker Voting Refor

bill? Why else would he say this now.....rather than months ago?

Any 'reform' with Baker's name on it is highly suspect....

[dhinojosa]

69. In 2-4 years...We will find out Kerry won....

ugh.

[rman]

71. Thank you sir

[neuvocat]

72. A Nobel Prize winner who has a large Christian following

is going to be heard regardless of the squelching by the media.

[bobbieinok]

101. before elec 2004 Carter said his group couldn't monitor US elec b/c

US elec didn't meet standards

RW talk radio called for his imprisonment, taking away his Nobel prize, etc

[barb162]

81. Carter needs another Nobel Prize! (I love him)

[Cha]

83. I knew that but nice for

a former president of the good ol' USA to say it out loud in public.

[greekspeak]

84. We're not worthy! We're not worthy! Thank you Jimmy!

:loveya:

[drummo]

85. I always love our Jimmy.

I think he was a very unlucky president but he is a heck of a guy.
:applause:

Shocker???? What is shocking in the truth? People don't like to hear that America is no longer a real democracy, right?
Let them keep their heads in the sand. Sooner or later they will notice they can't breath.

[genieroze]

86. Um President Carter, you were the first President I ever supported

and I'm glad you said that Gore won but Kerry won also. When is that going to be proclaimed by you?

[Carolab]

103. Jimmy was my first too. I totally believed in him.

I am glad he still has integrity and isn't afraid to show it.

[tabasco]

87. Thank you President Carter !

NO ONE can question your integrity and only chickenshits criticize you on message boards.

[dandrhesse]

88. I sure wish he would have said it before Al gave his concession speech!

I think that if more people would have been vocal with the TRUTH, in 2000 as well as 2004 instead of pussy-footing around we would not be in the mess we are today.

Look at all the people that could have stood up and spoken the truth, Famous Clergy, Past Presidents and the list goes on and on. Sure it is nice that he acknowledged it now but at what price to our country for waiting?

How many lives have been lost because those whose opinions are respected did not speak out!

I have been a supporter of Jimmy Carter, especially in his Humanitarian efforts after his retirement but his lack of public scrutiny and his willingness to give some sort of legitimacy to the Carter/Baker commission load of bs was very disappointing.

The time is now. Speak plainly, speak out loud. Over the last few days, Clinton criticized Bush but still didn't state the obvious and the same is true for Kerry and Carter.

Kerry blasted one or two aspects of the administration but failed to state that the white house was seized in a coup by the GOP and retained by the GOP buying our electional system.

Clinton said that he and Witt the former FEMA head both came from "areas that had a disproportionate amount of poor people" instead of stating the obvious. Bush doesn't have a clue, nor does he care about regular folks, if you aren't rich, in his book you don't matter, period.

And now Carter. He is sure that Gore won, but he won't say that Bush needs to be held accountable for vacationing and giving a rip how many poor Americans and tourists drown in New Orleans.

It is time for plain talk people.

This administration does not like anyone who is poor, not white, a woman, and not a Christian, in name only. That leaves rich, white, christian-talk the talk but don't walk the walk, men oh and anyone else as long as they have enough money!

[Rex]

92. 5 years late, but glad to hear Mr. Carter say it.

Maybe he should run again or as VP in the next rigged election.

[cwydro]

93. why wait over 5 YEARS

to comment? I love Jimmy, but geez.:7

[Vasmosn]

102. Sometimes it's better to wait....

Criticisms just for the sake of criticizing are worth only of the Republican Party. In the beginning there wasn't the overwhelming mountain of evidence that there was now, mostly just a lot of suspicion by people who know how such things work. And there was probably no way to get absolute proof of something like that when you know they had to know they were looking at looooong prison stays if caught. But time has a way of revealing all. The thing now is not to somehow overturn the election but to make sure it doesn't happen again. Maybe that's why he's speaking out now. The proof is there and perhaps remedies can be offered now. In the meantime, knowing that the jig is up if the Democrats regain Congress, everyone should really be on the lookout in the months before the mid-term. We may even have another "national emergency" which we'll be expected to fall in line behind the president for.

[kath]

105. Actually, it hasn't been 5 years yet. But it feels like 5 decades.

:-(

[qnr]

128. Lot of background noise then. I think it is better that be brings it up

now, it keeps it in the public consciousness.

[jarnocan]

96. I wonder

what the entire report will say- about 2004 as well. I was not really very hopeful with Baker being involved. but... maybe...

[lateo]

99. Jimmy, why didn't the Democrats stick up for Gore?

Can you answer that question? I would love to see him take a stab at that one in public.

[burrowowl]

104. YES! GORE WON!

Why aren't the PEOPLE in the STREETS?!?!?!?
DUMBKOFTS!

[Festivito]

106. Why did he wait this long to say it? Why? What's up now?

Why years? Certainly he knew long ago, years ago.

OR,

Are these stories to isolate RepubliCONs from Bush himself?
Perhaps to hide a story such as Able Danger being hidden and destroying documents all over the time line even until lately?

[True_Blue]

108. I love Jimmy Carter

Jimmy is right....the court gave bush the presidency and its been all down hill ever since.

Think of how much better the world would be today if the election had gone to the rightful 2000 winner.

[CreekDog]

110. Why didn't Dems stick up for Gore in 2000?

Actually the Congressional Dems that didn't stick up for Gore were almost universally white folks. Those that did stick up for Gore were never even acknowledged by him.

And why not:

Democrats are always worried that doing what they need to do to win the next election will make them lose the current one. But then, oopsie! They lose the current one too.

[GetTheRightVote]

111. What ever the time atleast he had the guts to say finally, Way to Go !

So many more will ever say it.

Thank you Jimmy.

:kick:

[orleans]

112. yeah that's really nice that he said that.....

but what about this recomendation for a national voter ID?
"The national commission, headed by former President Jimmy Carter, a Democrat, and former Secretary of State James Baker, a Republican, offered 87 recommendations on ways to make voting easier while strengthening ballot integrity. Their voter ID recommendation is, in a sense, stricter than the one passed this year by Georgia. It envisions a single, though free, government-issued photo ID card for every voter by 2010. Georgia accepts six government-issued IDs and offers one free to the poor."
http://www.ajc.com/opinion/content/opinion/wooten/2005/092505.html

[regnaD kciN]

115. Did he deliver another 'shocker'...

Former U.S. president Jimmy Carter delivered a shocker at an American University panel in Washington Monday: RAW STORY has learned he told the crowd he was certain Al Gore won the 2000 presidential election.

...and claim that the sun rises in the east and sets in the west?

:eyes:

[Marthe48]

118. Bush was never elected

or Cheney. They and their supporters have betrayed the United States. As long as Bush/Cheney are called legally elected, I won't fly a flag. I didn't trust Jimmy Carter when he ran for president, but I have come to admire and respect him --as long ago as he was in office, the rightwing slime balls were in action against him and derailed a good man's vision. However, I don't need anyone to tell me that Bush was installed illegally. I saw it live on CNN. And the bitter fruits of that decision will haunt all of us: this illegal government has made the poor poorer, this illegal government has legitimzed torture, this illegal government is killing innocent people. In their mouths words I love: democracy, freedom, faith, are made ugly and meaningless. I only want to see one headline and it is so depressing that so many years have passed without reading that these dictators have been overthrown.

[fortyfeetunder]

121. Why this long?

The timing is interesting...because I bet he wanted to do the math and get his stories straight. Remember Pres. Carter was trained as an engineer. Engineers want to have their facts and data impeccable before making a conclusion/recommendation.

The telling part when Carter stated his revelation is when Bush's performance is at its worst: the fiasco in Iraq with no clear resolution, the debacle with FEMA in Louisiana, a faltering economy, and US recognized as #1 adversary against the UN. And for us DUers who've been watching things such as the Plame outing, limited prosecution of Enron execs, a looming energy crisis, etc. without much investigation or intervention from Congress, this revelation is just one piece of the puzzle.

If Carter had said this in December 2000, he would have been dismissed as sour grapes from a Democrat has-been. And for those who remember that long ago, the protests then were dismissed as such. Now I think more people have a clue of what they voted into...maybe Carter's words make more sense today!

[EnemyCombatant]

122. '00 versus '04

Don't confuse 2000 with 2004.

In 2004, the skull n bonesman Kerry rolled over happily.
While Gore fought and demanded a recount despite the popular opposition and lack of support from his party.

Kerry had support and unity.

Gore had nothing. Even Lieberman wanted to give up.

Gore fought until the SC made the decision and then he handled his business like a statesman.
Kerry didn't even flinch.

Remember that in case Kerry and Gore run in '08.

Never trust a bonesman.

[JoFerret]

123. Thanks Jimmy

You are a great man.
If one measure of a president is what they do after leaving office then you are one of the greatest.

[goforit]

124. BRING BACK GORE NOW!!!!!

[shavedape]

125. amy carter '08

long live the carter dynasty!

[lovuian]

126. Finally the Truth speaks out!!! If this was a Democracy Gore won

but this is a coup de tat!!! The supreme Court will go down in history letting this horrible group in office!!!