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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 02:49 PM
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White House shrugs off anti-war demos
Edited on Mon Sep-26-05 02:51 PM by sabra

http://www.africasia.com/services/news/newsitem.php?area=mideast&item=050926193646.54d9qqse.php

White House shrugs off anti-war demos

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Spokesman Scott McClellan, asked what effect Saturday's crowds had on US President George W. Bush, replied: "I don't know of any it had on him ... We continued with our schedule."

Bush, who had left Washington on Friday to visit areas battered by Hurricanes Katrina and Rita, believes that "people have the right to express their views," McClellan told reporters.

"The president just strongly disagrees with those who say we need to withdraw from the Middle East. That would be the wrong approach, that would make us less safe and less secure," he added.

...

But the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001 "showed us in a very vivid way that we are engaged in a global war, and we must take the fight to the enemy so that we're fighting them there, not here," said McClellan.



I think Scotty gets a sticker if he puts a 9/11 reference at least once in each press gaggle.
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 02:52 PM
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1. The WH is in permanent group-think mode. But the 2006 elections...
are another story.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 04:58 PM
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23. Provided we still even have the ability to "vote" anyone out on the
national level.

I have my serious questions about that.

These people have invested trillions in Nazifying their "base" so they will feel perfectly comfortable in doing crimes "against the evil ones" (that's the rest of us)

They have had and will continue to have no compunction about disenfranchising people or stealing/stuffing votes.

And they will always have a fanatical core as well as media toadies who will "explain away" any thefts, be it from gas prices or Diebold "voting" machines.
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ecdab Donating Member (834 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 10:53 AM
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39. Nazifying their base........
it's so damn true.
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Dissenting_Prole Donating Member (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 11:18 AM
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40. You think you can vote your way out of this mess?
Ha ha ha ha.

You haven't been paying attention. Go back to sleep.
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defiant1 Donating Member (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 02:52 PM
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2. Or a cookie....
Boy, would I like to slap him across the face.
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 02:53 PM
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3. How would that make us less secure? It was the Saudis who attacked us
Edited on Mon Sep-26-05 02:54 PM by fasttense
on 9/11. Saudi gets to buy Fox Ignore-the-news and we attack Iraq for nothing. I just can't understand brush's America.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 02:56 PM
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5. WH did not pay attention to Katrina-now they brush off the protest. umm..



.....Spokesman Scott McClellan, asked what effect Saturday's crowds had on US President George W. Bush, replied: "I don't know of any it had on him ... We continued with our schedule."
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saskatoon Donating Member (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 05:48 PM
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26. Saudis
But you Must remember the picture of Lover boy and the Saudia Prince Holding Hands!
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 12:54 AM
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43. If he was jawboning the guy to open the spigots
(as he promised before he stole the first election), the guy must have a very weak grip...three bucks a gallon is hardly "opening the spigots" now, is it?
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 02:56 PM
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4. You can be sure it had an effect on the monsters...
:grr:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 02:57 PM
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6. "We continued with our schedule."---te he--they did this with Kat!



.....Spokesman Scott McClellan, asked what effect Saturday's crowds had on US President George W. Bush, replied: "I don't know of any it had on him ... We continued with our schedule."
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 02:58 PM
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8. "we must take the fight to the enemy so that we're fighting them there"
getting to be quite boring!
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 02:59 PM
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9. and it's not working anymore either.
but it seems like Scotty didn't get the memo.
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 02:58 PM
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7. Screw these ASSHOLES!!! nf
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 03:00 PM
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10. Arrogance. disrespect, tin ears. Not a good combination.
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 05:26 PM
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25. And they freely admit to having tin ears.
I guess that falls into the arrogance category.
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young_at_heart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 03:01 PM
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11. How can Bush assure us that withdrawing would be wrong?
We're far less safe now than we were before Bush was forced upon us, so please explain how we can trust his judgement about "the wrong approach"?
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politick Donating Member (885 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 03:22 PM
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17. Uh
I thought it was all Bill Clinton's fault and that we're now more safe. Did I miss something...?
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young_at_heart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 03:27 PM
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19. Maybe they are finally giving up with ....."It's Clinton's fault"
The people who say we are safer are in the same fantasy world as Bush Co.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 04:46 PM
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21. the bushies make a declaritive statement and it is the Truth. simple
as that.


well, it is what happens!!
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hogwyld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 03:02 PM
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12. Not for long
Didn't the WH at first ignore the protesters during Vietnam? This protest will grow until it is impossible to ignore!
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 03:05 PM
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13. McClellan on Bu$h out-Zieglers Ron Ziegler on Nixon.
McClellan: "The president just strongly disagrees with those who say we need to withdraw from the Middle East. That would be the wrong approach, that would make us less safe and less secure."

Ron Ziegler might have added: "This is the operative statement. The others are inoperative."


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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 03:07 PM
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14. Yeah Scottie, well an overwhelming majority of Americans....
think otherwise. The people of this country KNOW how badly your boss screwed the pooch on this one and want the U.S. OUT of Iraq. You cannot spin this away, it's here to stay. The longer bush persists in "staying the course" the worse his poll numbers and ability to lead this country are going to nosedive.
YOU HAVE NO MANDATE! Get out of Iraq, NOW! :grr:
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 03:12 PM
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15. don't you think SOME explanation of the mechanism is overdue?
HOW would withdrawal make us LESS SECURE, and HOW does continued imperialism & brutality in iraq make us MORE SECURE?

cuz i admit, i just don't get what they're thinking.
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 03:20 PM
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16. Shrugs off Antiwar protests?Bullshit!!...Cindy terrifies them!!!
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 03:27 PM
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18.  September 11, 2001
I'm so glad that they spell it out like that, otherwise I might confuse it with any old september 11th.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 03:31 PM
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20. If they didn't own America, they'd already be in jail.
Meaningless. Spend your journalistic efforts on something we don't already know. Or something important like letting Sibel Edmonds speak.
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Corgigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 04:48 PM
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22. OK then
we can have another one and this time ask for a million to show.

This adminstration is nuts.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 05:15 PM
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24. I picture Rove peeping through the Oval Office window blinds
"They're still there, sir."
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 09:06 PM
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41. LOL actually, there was some guy who would
occasionally stand at the front door and watch, then turn tail and duck back inside. The only real constants were the two snipers on the roof...and of course the park police on horses.

As they were putting Cindy in the first van, I began to yell that they were cowards and that they should be ashamed, that they had children and a mother too. Some looked visibly shaken by the thought that should be ashamed, others tried to laugh it off, and still others looked as though they would strike me with their big long sticks.

All in all an amazing experience.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 05:59 PM
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27. I would rather fight them here.
I mean, think about it, does Scotty even realize how many guns are in the hands of Americans who hate terrorists?

I guess the "fight them over there" talking point is their excuse for not keeping security measures for minor things such as nuclear power plants and incoming shipments up to par. :sarcasm:

Fact is, they know damn well we will never "fight them over here." September 11 wasn't a fight, it was an attack because bush was asleep at the wheel (LIHOP). Their fear tactics are pathetic.

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tenshi816 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 07:07 PM
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28. Whoa, damn decent of 'em to say
"people have the right to express their views" - wow, I'm so happy the White House has given me permission to say how much I hate this administration.

terra, terra, terra, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, be afraid, be very afraid, booga booga...

Bastards.
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icymist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 07:17 PM
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29. There's that same old stupid line again!
we must take the fight to the enemy so that we're fighting them there, not here," said McClellan.

Like the terrorists are that fu*king stupid? Or maybe McCellan thinks the American people are that fu*king stupid to believe that terrorists are going to fight us only in Iraq?! Stop insulting my intellengence Scottie!
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Cornjob Donating Member (218 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 07:24 PM
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30. Every day it looks more like Vietnam
An unwinable war, a President out of touch with Americans and reality itself, a growing energy crisis.

As protests grew during the Vietnam war, so did the violence.

Like the Vietnamese, the innocent of Iraq suffer and die at the hands of bloodthirsty combatants.

This Iraq war, like the Vietnam War, is a deadly exercise in futility and just like the Vietnam War has no winners - only the dead and wounded.

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kineneb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 11:16 PM
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33. Yup, "light at the end of the tunnel" bit yet to come...
but am willing to bet that one of BushCo will utter the fateful words. Guess I was paying more attention to logistics than they were, and I was a just a kid during Vietnam.

Hubby reminded me of famous saying: Amateurs study strategy and tactics. Professionals study logistics.
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 07:31 PM
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31. So they're using Iraq as a human shield against terrorists...
...even though NONE OF THEM were from there. Of course NOW that we've invaded the place, it's a terrorist hotbed, where it wasn't previously They occupied that country so they could use it as front for their profit, power, and oil war - calling it the 'war on terror', when a more apt title for the debacle is a war FOR terror.

Iraq had nothing to do with goddamned f*cking 9-11. This whole quagmire is a FARCE. A RUSE.

Scottie needs to have his lips sewn shut so he'll stop spewing sewage out his face.

Do you think Iraqis ought to appreciate our using their country like this? I don't!
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 07:44 PM
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32. What do they care? They now have Diebold & ES&S tabulating our votes
with SECRET, PROPRIETARY programming code! It's all over folks, until we get that changed, however we can. Our democracy is over! Put 400,000 people in the streets. Put a million people in the streets. It doesn't matter. They have no reason to listen to us if we don't have the power of the vote.

We need...

1. Paper ballots hand-counted at the precinct level (--Canada does it in one day, although speed should not even be a consideration, just accuracy and verifiability)

or, at the least

2. Paper ballot (not "paper trail") backup of all electronic voting, a 10% automatic recount, very strict security, and NO SECRET, PROPRIETARY programming code! (...jeez!).


It's only possible to do at the state/local level, and that's where we must do it--despite the formidable obstacle of bipartisan corruption in the $4 billion electronic voting machine boondoggle.

Throw Diebold and ES&S election theft machines into 'Boston Harbor' NOW!
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 01:05 AM
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34. DID YOU CATCH THIS???
"The president just strongly disagrees with those who say we need to withdraw from the Middle East. That would be the wrong approach, that would make us less safe and less secure," he added.

He didn't say Iraq. He said, "THE MIDDLE EAST"

We've got more "hard work" to do in TalibanIraqIranistan.


Iraq is just the beginning. There's no doubt that Iran and Syria are high on the list. But personally I think we'll invade Venezuela first, because that'd be a lot easier, it's in our hemisphere, nobody could stop us, and then we'd control 2.6 MILLION barrels of that sweet light crude per day. The eleventh largest oil producer on the planet.

If the bushies controlled that oil, they'd have no problems gettin' countries to sign up...or else..

Isn't it funny that Scottie says we're not withdrawing from the MIDDLE EAST, rather than Iran Jr....I mean Iraq.
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anitar1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 04:20 AM
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37. Not to worry, Karen is taking care of it right now. n/t
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 09:23 AM
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38. riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. (nt)
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 06:02 AM
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44. Caught it and shook
Damn.
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Justice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 07:00 AM
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45. Middle East? If only

everytime these guys try something like this, it proves further that THEY know the current situation is a miserable failure.
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 01:24 AM
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35. The whole thing was more for the protesters and their supporters anyway
Like if your not outraged your not paying attention

Note to Scotty: Global war is just terrorism on a way over-extended credit card

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alarcojon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 01:29 AM
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36. Just another focus group to the asshat-in-chief
Visualize Impeachment.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 09:16 PM
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42. They could just play a record with a skip in it
that says "We're fighting them there so we don't have to fight them here. Freedumb is on th' march. Fightin' terra." They could shitcan Snotty and they wouldn't have to pay a record player.
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