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ECH1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 04:25 PM
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Zarqawi emerging as self-sustained force-US intel
WASHINGTON, Sept 27 (Reuters) - Abu Musab al-Zarqawi's network of al Qaeda-linked insurgents is emerging as a self-sustaining force, despite repeated blows by U.S. forces and the reported death of his second-in-command, U.S. intelligence officials and other experts say.

The Zarqawi network, responsible for some of the Iraqi insurgency's bloodiest attacks, has grown into a loose confederation of mainly native Iraqis trained by former Baath Party regime officers in explosives, small arms, rockets and surface-to-air missiles.

"The suggestion is that this has shifted from being a terrorist network to a guerrilla army," said Vali Nasr, a national security affairs expert at the Naval Postgraduate School in Monterey, California.

"He has enough force in place to sustain operations," the official added. "Al Qaeda in Iraq ... regenerates very quickly. You knock off a guy who's in charge in a certain area, another person steps into the gap." Although the Jordanian-born Zarqawi has long been associated with foreign fighters, officials believe 85 to 90 percent of al Qaeda in Iraq's members are Iraqi.

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N27231955.htm
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ElectroPrincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 04:30 PM
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1. Can leap tall buildings in a single bound + faster than a locomotive too?
Edited on Tue Sep-27-05 04:34 PM by ElectroPrincess
Oh yeah, he's the perfect Boogie Man! I bet he even regenerates a leg each time he comes back to life? He's Super AL (Zarqawi)!?! :wtf:

On edit - Isn't this is just a TITLE to hype-up an UPRISING of the *Native People*?

"officials believe 85 to 90 percent of al Qaeda in Iraq's members are Iraqi." = Natives! The Natives are rebelling - whoa! What a concept?
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ECH1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 04:33 PM
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2. Reuters is saying in a nice way
Edited on Tue Sep-27-05 04:34 PM by ECH1969
That killing Zarqawi aids doesn't do much of anything to the network.
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ElectroPrincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 04:41 PM
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3. It doesn't do much even if you kill, say a baker's dozen of their
tippy top aides, 2nd in commmands, key lieutenants OR any other fluffy garbage Wolf Blitzer, et. al. media, whores try to impress the USA sheeple with ...

Damn! This either means that al Que-da are something like "The Borg" OR, just perhaps, the native peoples are FIGHTING LIKE THERE'S NO TOMORROW FOR THEIR NATIVE LAND?!? You think?

Just like with Vietnam, we (the USA's troops) WON every battle but LOST the war. We lost the war because although the Vietnamese lost over 2 MILLION people, they would have kept fighting us to their last dying Native. After 58,000 of our troops DIED with NO END in sight, THE PEOPLE demanded that we pull out of Vietnam.

It needs to happen again, but I pray, hopefully SOONER than after we lose 58,000 troops. And guess what? The Military LOW-balls the casualty numbers. Well duh. :puke:
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 04:43 PM
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4. self-sustaining propaganda puppet?
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 04:43 PM
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5. did these pinheads see the Saudi AND Israeli studies
saying most foreign fighters have no particular allegiance to al Qaeda or religious motive?
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ElectroPrincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 04:57 PM
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6. This is just a plain sick game ...
If what the intelligence states is true ... and the past would support this concept, then what we have here is ONE deadly a** WHACK-A-MOLE game. No matter how many insurgents are killed, there will be more to step up and take their place.

Now tell me how "fighting terror" in Iraq is ANY different than what we attempted and failed to do in Vietnam?

Let's sell all our SUVs and become less dependent on Middle-Eastern Oil before some IDIOTs (PNAC) choose to start WWIII?
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 07:51 PM
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10. Todays "Terror" = 60 's Communist dominoes
Only the language of the "enemy" has changed. The same invalid rational about "keeping america safe" is foisted off on us too. I'm afraid that since this country has so many dumb people in it, we are doomed to follow exactly the same course of events. However, with all that oil at stake, this one might go on for 20 years + instead of 10.
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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 09:37 PM
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11. I haven't seen those studies. Could you provide a link
please? That is a very interesting observation.

Thanks
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 10:03 PM
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12. Link to story on Saudi & Israeli study of foreign fighters
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 07:38 PM
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7. This is babble.
The Zarqawi network, responsible for some of the Iraqi insurgency's bloodiest attacks, has grown into a loose confederation of mainly native Iraqis trained by former Baath Party regime officers in explosives, small arms, rockets and surface-to-air missiles.

Which is what it always was.

"The suggestion is that this has shifted from being a terrorist network to a guerrilla army,"

Which is what it always was.

"He has enough force in place to sustain operations," the official added. "Al Qaeda in Iraq ... regenerates very quickly. You knock off a guy who's in charge in a certain area, another person steps into the gap."

Sounds almost like guerilla war. You know, the kind they teach about
at the War College and like that?
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 07:42 PM
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8. Yeah, myths are funny that way. n/t
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-27-05 07:46 PM
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9. He here, he's there, he's everywhere!!! the amazing one legged dead guy
able to escape from moving vehicles only a mile from US heavily armed checkpoints, how did he escape? Why he jumped out of the moving truck and then hopped away.
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