Rev. Moon urges bridge linking Alaska, Asia

[Newsjock]

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002527631_revmoon29m.html

Challenging U.S. leaders to build a 51-mile "peace" bridge and tunnel from Alaska to Russia, the Rev. Sun Myung Moon rallied hundreds of Seattle supporters last night in an effort to bolster a religious movement best known for mass weddings.

Moon delivered a rambling, 45-minute sermon at the Bell Harbor International Conference Center that heavily criticized the United Nations and called for the end of war and the reconciliation of religious differences.

Moon offered no specifics on how a combination bridge and tunnel could be built or funded.

... Moon declared that his teachings helped Adolf Hitler and Josef Stalin become reborn as new people.

[Cooley Hurd]

1. He's a couple of thousand years too late on that bridge...

... Moon declared that his teachings helped Adolf Hitler and Josef Stalin become reborn as new people.

Yep, here they are:

[tjwmason]

9. Ahhhh - how sweet - they're even wearing matching outfits.

:puke:

[Missy M]

2. With all his money why doesn't he build the bridge himself...

just think Moon is a friend of Poppy and Mama Bush.

[niallmac]

3. Does Moon and or his org pay taxes?

One of those things I really need to educate myself about one day. If you are a religious organization just what is tax exempt beyond the church itself? Are the business enterprises of the church also exempt? Just askin caus you need those nasty taxes to build big bridges and tunnels. Halliburton won't build 'em for free.

[Missy M]

8. As far as I know his Unification Church does not pay taxes....

but the church owned businesses do.

[brentspeak]

33. That's correct

In fact, when Moon was in danger of having his church's tax-exempt status pulled about 15 years ago, the Christian Coalition types rallied to his defense. Not because they liked him or his church, but because they knew that if Moon would be forced to pay taxes, so would they.

[saskatoon]

45. churches and taxes

YES! and why in hell aren't they paying taxes!

[The Backlash Cometh]

4. Why does this man have so much power in this country?

Why? Why?

[truthisfreedom]

6. he's part of the bushco mafia.

[htuttle]

12. Who do you think funded the Christian Right back in the 80's?

Without Moon's money, even to this day, they wouldn't amount to much politically.

[0007]

34. Money buys a lot of friends!

[Gman]

5. Maybe he can talk to Tom Delay about it

Once Delay's out of prison.

[Wabbajack]

7. A useless bridge from Alaska to Siberia?

GREAT idea. It's not like we're in a serious fiscal mess or anything.

[Toots]

47. Why would you suggest it was useless?

I think a land connection to Asia and Europe would be incredible. I would love to drive to Paris or Rome. It may be closed part of the year but for at least eight months a year it would be a spectacular highway.

[Wabbajack]

53. Eh maybe you're right

but let Moon pay for it himself and donate it to the people.

[izzie]

10. Well I am sure Stevens and Young can get the road to the bridge built.

Those two can get your gold fillings.:freak:

[Child_Of_Isis]

11. reborn as new people.?

... Moon declared that his teachings helped Adolf Hitler and Josef Stalin become reborn as new people.


What the hell does that mean? :wow:

[CJCRANE]

14. Prob reborn as * and Cheney... nt

[mccoyn]

13. This makes sense...

From what I here Alaska is more like a tropic resort than an artic wasteland this year. Lets make it a tourist destination.

[Botany]

15. Right on it Rev.

After we finish building the highway from Anchorage Alaska across
the western 1/2 of the state and the Yukon River and then series of
roads and bridges out the 1,500 miles of the Aluetian Islands.

But we have to finish the ladder to the moon first.

How does the nutball have any power in the US?

[leesa]

16. Thanks Moon, must be how we got this current administration...reborn

fascists. Is this what "born again" means?

[Art_from_Ark]

17. That's gotta be what it means

It certainly doesn't mean "born again in Christ"

:banghead:

[genieroze]

18. Sure it does after all Moon says he's Christ

" THE UNIFICATION CHURCH teaches that on Easter morning 1936, Sun Myung Moon had a vision. The 16-year-old Korean, a Presbyterian, was praying when Jesus Christ appeared to him. Jesus informed Moon that God had selected him to take up where Adam and Eve had failed, to complete a task that Christ himself couldn't finish: uniting and leading humanity as God intended. Moon was to be the Third Adam, the Lord of the Second Advent, the Messiah of the Second Coming. His assignment: to create a theocracy that would reign over the earth."

http://www.freedomofmind.com/resourcecenter/groups/m/moonies/parents.htm

[Megahurtz]

36. Maybe Moon is the AntiChrist. n/t

[genieroze]

49. I think he's just a nut.

[Amonester]

50. Actually, I think it's ** himself. - eom

:scared:

[Selteri]

19. As much as a nutball as Moon is... a train bridge could be

a good thing for everyone in the long run... provided that it's made for an electrical train and they think far enoguh ahead to make sure that it's completely enclosed so that it is protected against the elements.

Even a nutcase can have a good idea once in a while... too bad he doesn't seem to get the idea overall on a lor of other things.

[muriel_volestrangler]

22. How much traffic is there between Alaska and Asia already?

Why build a connection when no-one wants to use the route now?

[Stuckinthebush]

26. Right

Once you get over to the other side, you still are in the middle of nowhere.

You'll have to get a plane to get somewhere else...unless you plan to drive the Alaskan Highway down through Canada, and then come on into the States.

Fun idea but the utility is just not evident.

[MarsThe Cat]

56. if you build it, they will come-

i don't know if they still do, but Alaska Airlines has/had regular service to Kamchatka from Alaska.

if such a bridge were feasible, and rail lines included- it could be very useful.

[muriel_volestrangler]

57. Not always

And in the mean time, you will have spent an awful lot of money. Projects like the Channel Tunnel between the UK and France have not been commercially profitable, and that's at one of the busiest sea crossings in the world. Alaska and Siberia are both very lightly populated, and a long way away from the major population centres - which can send things to each other happily by sea. The world economy is a long way away from being able to build things because it sounds like a nice idea - we have to be able to say why the project is better than what we've got now.

[hatrack]

20. How about building a tunnel to New Zealand?

Then, when it's finished, all the Unification Church members can begin to march from Los Angeles to Wellington. Once they're all inside, we can seal the tunnel at both ends. :eyes:

[Stuckinthebush]

27. OK...I know that you are kidding

But it occurred to me...how long would it take to drive from LA to New Zealand? You'd be in a tunnel for a few days. What a drag!

OK...back to reality.

[zbdent]

21. Man, I'd love to have stock in Kool-Aid these days

even if it wasn't really what was used in Jim Jones' day . . .

(strawberry Flavor-Aide)

[underpants]

23. No specifics on funding huh?

This is too funny.

[noonwitch]

24. Interesting idea from a wacko source

I don't know how useful such a bridge would be, since using it would involve a ton of driving.

[davidinalameda]

31. you could run a train and have a dedicated traffic lane for cargo

sort of like the Chunnel

it could open up both areas to economic development

[Historic NY]

25. Ah the bridge would make invasion easier...............n/t

[oneighty]

40. We would not need missiles anymore

we just truck bombs, germs, gas and bullshit and whatever back and forth across the bridge.

180

[MADem]

28. If that asshole thinks it is such a great idea, he can PAY for it!!

After all, he thinks he is king of the friken world!!!

[Gregorian]

29. As children starve?????

These people are outta their fucking minds!!!

I wasn't going to post on this. But I walked away with this image of a bridge. And rich people who are focused on these weird-ass things. And then a crying child with no food.

This guy is no reverend. I'd go as far as to say Satan smiles on this gang.

[maxsolomon]

30. hundreds of followers IN SEATTLE?

i'm so embarassed.

[0rganism]

42. In a city of a milliion, there's always at least a thousand utter nutjobs

If 10% of those nutjobs are Moonies, well, that's to be expected.

[Xithras]

32. A bridge would be doable, getting to it wouldn't be.

In case anyone wasn't aware, there are NO roads or rail lines to Nome or the Bering coast right now. The ONLY way to access that location is by boat or plane. Considering the military importance of this area during the Cold War, don't you think the government would have built a road or rail lines if they were easy?

Connecting a road or rail line from Fairbanks to Nome would involve crossing two mountain ranges and some of the nastiest frozen wastes in the country. We're talking about hundreds upon hundreds of miles of nothingness. To build that, we would need a HUGE economic imperative.

To be honest, the primary purpose of this thing would be freight traffic, and to make sense it would have to be cheaper than ships to use. Since trains can only haul a fraction of the load of a cargo ship, it's unlikely that they'll be the cheaper option any time soon. Without freight traffic, the bridge wouldn't be economically worthwhile.

[tatertop]

37. I never thought of that

[ticapnews]

44. Yeah, but thanks to global warming that won't be a problem much longer...

Those frozen wastes will be just another nice stretch of land waiting to be developed...

[MarsThe Cat]

59. actually, as the permafrost thaws- you end up with a big mess-

it'll be quite awhile before it could be economically feasible- but that's never stopped congress from authorizing bridge expenditures in Alaska before, has it?

[Megahurtz]

35. What trunk did this guy just crawl out of? n/t

[sofa king]

38. Don Young has already started.

That must be why he wants that $223 million Gravina bridge so badly.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/editorials/2005-05-17-alaska-edit_x.htm

[Gnostic]

46. Bridge to nowhere

I read that link you provided and I'm adamantly against it's opinion of the so-called "bridge to nowhere". I live in Anchorage, and I have lived in the "Valley", the towns of Wasilla and Palmer which this bridge is intended to connect to. It's needed. The "valley" is no longer just a small suburb of Anchorage....it's becoming a large town all of it's own. Literally thousands of commuters travel the 40 mile plus commute from the Valley to Anchorage twice on a daily basis, and there is a huge amount of commercial and private traffic as well, all clogging a single 3 lane hoghway that gets so backed up it is not uncommon to see 10 mile long back-ups if just a single car breaks down or what have you. It's a nightmare in other words. The Valley is growing at an unbelievable rate....building out there is tremendous (it is the fastest growing area of Alaska and probably one of the fastest in the nation). This bridge would end up PAYING for itself through reduced travel times, reduced accidents, and higher productivity all around for the entire region. It's not a bridge to nowhere. It's needed infrastructure.

[Roland99]

39. He just wants to make it easier for terrorists to come to the U.S.

Why does he hate America?

[0rganism]

41. How much traffic does the Bering Strait ferry handle during peak season?

Oh wait, there isn't one. How about Rev. Moon starts by funding a capital venture for providing a twice-daily ferry service and we'll see how much business it does before we buy the bridge.

Talk about your public works pork projects, this bridge would be the King.

[olddad56]

43. One would think that asshole could just walk on the water.

[morgan2]

48. sounds like someone wants to build a pipeline

from anwar to asia. Get in on that budding Chinese market.

[Matariki]

51. why is this nutjob still around

didn't he do some very questionably legal stuff in the US?

[pro_blue_guy]

52. Ummm........

Does anyone here think that the rest of the world would want to be connected to us via land? I mean, our president has made sure we stay detached from everyone else....

[PATRICK]

54. Reborn? Bush, Cheney?

[Dr Fate]

55. The Rev. Moon is a true-life James Bond villain. n/t

n/t

[struggle4progress]

58. Next week: An elevator to Mars will encourage interplanetary harmony!

[Rex]

60. Let him fork over 150 million, I know he has that much!

Moon is our new Prince of Profit! Crowned in his throne room - Congress! AMEN LORD MOON! :crazy: