NY Times reporter Judith Miller released from jail

[LiviaOlivia]

Posted on Thu, Sep. 29, 2005
NY Times reporter Judith Miller released from jail
By John Shiffman and Steve Goldstein
INQUIRER STAFF WRITERS


WASHINGTON - Judith Miller, The New York Times reporter who has been jailed since July 6 for refusing to identify a source, has been released, The Inquirer has learned.

Miller left an Alexandria, Va. jail late this afternoon, a jail official said.

She was released after she had a telephone conversation with the Vice President Dick Cheney's chief of staff, I. Lewis Libby, sources said. In that conversation, Libby reaffirmed that he had released Miller from a promise of confidentiality more than a year ago, sources said.

~snip~

http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/12775934.htm
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http://www.bugmenot.com/view.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.philly.com

[ChairmanAgnostic]

1. no warning? and she will start PR crap for Bush again?

damn. that sucks.

[hellbound-liberal]

65. So which Ambassadorship will she get? Maybe head of FEMA?

I'm sure Mr. Loyalty will figure out some way to repay her (or at least shut her up)

[ChairmanAgnostic]

66. Supreme Court? She's had experience with the court system

so has Larry Franklin and a few other traitors.

[fooj]

2. WTF? WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?

Does this mean that Fitzie is ready to pounce?

Peace.

[Nordic65]

12. Hmm, four months in the slammer...

and a lousy phone-call was all that it took to get out of jail.

Why the hell didn't she just call him before she went to jail?

[rodeodance]

30. that thought crossed my mind. fleetedly.

[MADem]

125. Maybe they are hoping Fitzie will disband the GJ with this testimony

Wouldn't it be a real bitch if she was just a peripheral player, and they are held over by popular acclaim....

[MaineDem]

3. Oh boy!

She had been released from confidentiality a year ago???!

Is that something one would just forget??

[rodeodance]

29. wasn't it the contents of this 'pledge' that Fritz wanted?

[MidwestTransplant]

4. IIRC she didn't think she had a real release and wouldn't testify

now it appears that she must think she does and will testify.

[grytpype]

5. Woohoooo!

This means she is gonna SING people! Yeah! Now Rove and Libby are going to join the lineup of Repug criminals under indictment!

Yes! Yesssssssssssss!

[Jackpine Radical]

8. But whos lyrics is she gonna sing? (nt)

[Halliburton]

45. she's willing to lie for them, but it's probably not a good idea

as Fitz is very good at detecting lies, as he has put many people in the slammer for perjury.

[ClintonTyree]

81. Please, she's already demonstrated the lengths she's willing to..

go in order to please her masters. She wont say dick, and even if she did it would probably be a lie. She's already established that she's willing to go to jail for this gang of thugs what's a little perjury to ensure their monetary support later on.
She's a bush whore and nothing will ever change that. I'm sure the Corporate Whore New York Times will take her back with open arms and she'll continue her propaganda campaign for the bushies.
This makes NO sense at all. She knew she had permission from Scooter to talk if she wanted, yet she refused. Now, after a phone call merely reaffirming that fact she's free to go? Something smells to high heaven here, I don't quite yet know what it is but after some serious thought I'm sure I or someone else will put the pieces together. Time to do some thinnin'!

[serryjw]

131. Yes, Here it is!

quote......
After nearly three months behind bars, New York Times reporter Judith Miller was released Thursday after agreeing to testify in the investigation into the disclosure of the identity of a covert CIA officer.
"My source has now voluntarily and personally released me from my promise of confidentiality regarding our conversations," Miller said in a statement.

The Times, which supported her contention that her source should be protected, reported late Thursday that her source was Vice President Dick Cheney's chief of staff, I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby.

end quote...
http://dailynews.att.net/cgi-bin/news?e=pub&dt=050929&cat=news&st=newsd8cu900g0&src=ap

[Jackpine Radical]

6. This whole business doesn't pass a smell test.

"Libby reaffirmed that he had released Miller from a promise of confidentiality more than a year ago"

She sat months in jailwaiting for Libby to reaffirm that she was released from confidentiality? If Libby had given that release way back when, then why wouldn't she ask for, and he give, the reaffirmation immediately instead of letting her sit in the slammer?

Blaaaap.
Blaaaap.
Blaaaap.
Does not compute.
Blaaaap.
Blaaaap.

[Tatiana]

14. More likely she was giving Libby a heads-up that she was gonna squeal! n/t

[The Backlash Cometh]

79. Maybe they were waiting for Cheney to negotiate a deal with Fitz?

Maybe Cheney didn't want to be the first domino to fall and he decided there was no reason to delay once Delay was indicted?

[Imagevision]

218. Bolton visits her last week - this week Scooter sets her free

this should be really interesting...!

[jazzjunkysue]

144. Right. Watch how hard Delay tries to stay out of the slammer.

This is total crap. She had released a statement that she was afraid of the B* crime family. I'll bet the hogs finally decided who to sacrifice, and so, it's all been bargained and decided, so, she can squeal.

Bastards let her sit there and rot. Compassionate. Christian. My ass.

This means it's gonna be a blood bath, kids.

Pass the popcorn.
:popcorn:

[CoffeeCat]

159. I've got popcorn, Junior Mints, a large Diet Orange Soda and some Goobers!

Let the show begin!

[jazzjunkysue]

223. Leave room for me on the sofa! Pizza, anyone?

:hug:

[BonnieJW]

208. Why?

For the Publicity

[leQ]

217. i think she just wanted to play victim (eom)

[stepnw1f]

7. Did She Speak?

Did she make a deal to get released?

I heard a couple weeks ago, that she was about to spill the beans. Anyone?

[fooj]

10. Damn. I can't remember from where...

Grrrrrrrrr...

Peace.

[democrat in Tallahassee]

64. huffington post had it

[ncteechur]

9. Not necessarily. I think she has been promised something and not from

Fitzgerald--her loyalty has been purchased not sure how.

[fooj]

11. Huh?

:shrug:

[rodeodance]

13. no one is talking. see here.

.....A spokesman for Fitzgerald did not immediately return phone calls.

Libby's lawyer, Joseph A. Tate of Philadelphia, declined to comment.

Since July, Miller had been held in suburban Virginia at the Alexandria Detention Center. According to The Washington Post, her visitors included former NBC anchor Tom Brokaw, U.N. ambassador John R. Bolton and former senator Robert J. Dole (R-Kan.).

[rodeodance]

16. recall she is a friend of Bolton.

....Since July, Miller had been held in suburban Virginia at the Alexandria Detention Center. According to The Washington Post, her visitors included former NBC anchor Tom Brokaw, U.N. ambassador John R. Bolton and former senator Robert J. Dole (R-Kan.).

[Pirate Smile]

57. Maybe he told her he was going to go after her for Criminal Contempt

and she flinched.

[Lerkfish]

206. that would explain the Bolton visits. now the followup question is:

what would Bolton offer/threaten her with, and from whom?

[barbaraann]

15. Hmmm.... the day after DeLay was indicted.

Hmmm.....

Oh, and same day Larry Franklin decides to plea.

[rodeodance]

17. Fritz office not saying anything either. No surprize

[Nordic65]

26. Somebody, somewhere is pouring gasoline on the fire...

[bear425]

142. AND the same day Roberts is confirmed. n/t

[BR_Parkway]

198. Or the day Roberts gets sworn in as Cheif Justice?

[Boo Boo]

203. Yeah, it is sort of interesting that the very day Bush

gets his own personal rigger installed as Chief Justice, Miller stops stalling. I'm too dumb to see how it directly helps the situation, but it's a nice insurance policy.

He (Bush) must be feeling pretty good about that. Even if hell froze over and Bush faced impeachment for some thing or another (torture, for instance) Roberts would preside over the Senate during the trial. Bush has Gonzales as AG, and now Roberts...

Both believe in Bush's virtually unchecked powers as CINC.

[jaysunb]

18. Why isn't this being reported anywhere else ?

This would be some pretty hot news.....

[babsbunny]

67. Keith Olbermann is on it

on MSNBC

[MADem]

126. All the networks have it, the cables are hot on it nt

[Scout1071]

19. Saaaaaaaay What?

WTF? What a tease! Something is happening here. What it is ain't exactly clear. (sorry, slipped into a little lyric)

[MADem]

127. There's a man with a gun over there, telling me, I got to beware! nt

[Algorem]

20. they need her to promote their new war.

I guess Joe Wilson was on Ed Schultz today saying he thinks somebody gonna get indicted,Rove I guess.Or something.

[The Night Owl]

21. Miller freed after phone conversation with Libby?

Miller freed after phone conversation with Libby? I would bet that Libby is about to be indicted.

[rodeodance]

22. not much of a clue.

[Seabiscuit]

28. Doesn't make much sense. Only the judge can release her.

And where are the links to other sources? I don't feel like subscribing to either of the links provided.

[Pirate Smile]

58. She will testify tomorrow, maybe, I think - ???

[rodeodance]

23. kick and recommend

[rodeodance]

27. i did not know or forgot that Libby had released her from a pledge

a year ago. makes no sense to me. tease!


....She was released after she had a telephone conversation with the Vice President Dick Cheney's chief of staff, I. Lewis Libby, sources said. In that conversation, Libby reaffirmed that he had released Miller from a promise of confidentiality more than a year ago, sources said.

[John Q. Citizen]

38. It was a blanket release signed by everyone in the Whitehouse.

The journalists involved all said they felt the releases were obtained under duress, so to speak, and wouldn't honor them unless they got direct and specific release of confidentiality from their sources.

[rodeodance]

54. oh that one. thanks again.

[MADem]

129. Perhaps he also told her that monkeyboy let her off the hook

...but they sorta didn't mention that part.

[unblock]

24. libby: "you're released"; miller: "you couldn't say that FOUR MONTHS AGO?"

i mean, if you're gonna release a reporter from your confidentiality agreement, why torture them with 4 months in jail?

sometimes these guys don't even take care of their own properly....

[patricia92243]

34. Maybe they see the Bush regime is starting to crumple and want to be on th

the correct side of things. Or maybe they are not scared of Bush anymore.

[Demonaut]

36. lol, I thought you wrote "property'.......fits though

[Baltimore]

77. properly-property

I read "property" too!

[Kingshakabobo]

71. All the administration staff were forced to sign a release 1 year ago.

Both the Times reporter and Miller considered those releases given "under duress."

The only thing that has changed is her threshold for a release not given under duress. She held out longer than the pudgy, pasty Times reporter who folded under the pressure, prior to the slammer, thinking about life away from his lay-Z-boy.

[HereSince1628]

83. Actually I think he did. IIRC she said it was a coerced release

and didn't accept it.

sorry about that, I should read all the way through the thread before I comment...

[ClintonTyree]

89. Coerced, schmoerced..........

if they didn't agree to the release it would be obstruction of justice. Whether she thought it was coerced or not doesn't make a damned bit of difference, it was a blanket release. The only reason she wouldn't talk is because of loyalty to the bush regime. She knew she had this a year ago yet chose to spend three months in jail protecting the slimeballs in the White House. There's a quid pro quo here somewhere, you can bet on it. What that happens to be is unknown at the moment but it will surface sooner or later.

[Gregorian]

25. Now that all of their stories are in line, she can purjure.

Who says they won't all lie their ways out of this, just like every single other thing they've done.

I probably don't know enough to even say anything. I'm just blabbing my gut feeling. No fact to base it on.


I do know that Dan Rather and Martin Kalb were talking about making this a public issue. They were very upset that she was in jail. Especially having not published anything regarding Plame. I don't think they even get it. It's about crime. Not journalism.

[The_Casual_Observer]

84. They can probably lie in the interest of national security

or something. It's a "time of war, with solders in harms way" you know.

[ClintonTyree]

106. Is bush back to being the "war president" again?

Last time I knew he was playing the "hurricane president" part. The man wears many hats, all of them black.

[kcass1954]

119. Jack of all trades - master of none. n/t

[bearfan454]

155. Jack off of all trades

[calimary]

214. Aw MAN - beat me to it!

Jackal of all trades, too. But jack-off is the best of all. :D

[MidwestTransplant]

31. Any conversations that Miller had may have been recorded

if not with her attorney, right?

[FourStarDemocrat]

199. I believe that any conversation except for attn-client can be recorded in

prison. And I don't think perjury is going to help them in this case..Fitz knows too much and will get to the bottom of it.

[John Q. Citizen]

32. It seems obvious that Miller has agreed to testify and so is

no longer in contempt.

I think it's a good sign, especially coming on the same day Joe Wilson said on the radio that he expects there will be indictment(s) handed down by the grand jury.

[rodeodance]

33. um.. Joe W. on the radio. He keeps up this matter that is for sure.

[John Q. Citizen]

41. He was on Ed Schultz today. Didn't say a thing about

Miller, but it seems the timing is maybe relevent.

He did say if he were a betting man he'd place money on an indictment.

[shraby]

42. Yup, I believe you're right...she has agreed

to testify otherwise she wouldn't be walking. The judge put her in there until the Grand Jury is done..only he can let her loose early if she decides to testify.
Big question is if she is going to commit perjury or tell the truth. Her testimony would have to match the details in a lot of other testimonies, not just one other persons.

[alcibiades_mystery]

167. Exactly right: there was scuttlebutt lately that jail was getting to her

she cajoled and pleaded, and probably the people at the ny times said you get libby to nod or we're pulling our support: they don't wanna be on the wrong side of a big administration indictment either. She's singing like a canary, probably as we speak, and Libby will be standing tall before the man in under a month. with any luck, cheney's gonna take a fall too, hence his ridiculous knee surgery publicity, warming up the crowd for the big smear.

judy's singing for sure, and she's had just enough of a taste of jail that she wouldn't dare perjure herself and land there for 6 more years. this is a catastrophe for bush, with any luck. the dirt is getting fucking deep.

[snippy]

35. So she is going to testify. I think Fitzgerald showed her lawyer a draft

of a complaint for criminal contempt. It would have been a slam dunk conviction and she could have recieved a two year sentence. She was willing to do a few weeks but not two more years. I hope Fitzgerald puts her in front of the grand jury right away. Based on parts of the written opinions of Judge Hogan and Judge Tatel in this case the indictments should start flowing pretty soon after that.

[rodeodance]

37. yes, Fritz will have here talking now (or else she would still be in jail)

[rodeodance]

39. kick

[rodeodance]

40. been doing a little surfing and can not find anything else on this.

[MaineDem]

44. Dallas Morning News has it

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/093005dnnatmiller.dee44338.html


It's based on the Philadelphia Inquirer report.

[rodeodance]

53. thanks

[pearl]

46. It could also mean the Grand Jury is done

And that means maybe indictments real soon.

Bastards

[rodeodance]

47. doesn't judith have to go to grand jury now that she is released?

[understandinglife]

74. That's where she will be, tomorrow.

Peace.

[bear425]

143. Oh, please let her have to testify tomorrow.

And not have to take any small planes to get there!

edit: because tesify is not the same as testify

[mike_c]

85. hey, is that a new celibratory avatar?

:toast:

[Nordic65]

86. This could be the beginning off the end...

Let's see what we have so far. Bush was seven months into his second term. Things were not looking pretty. And now, in the eight month, we can add these little nuggets into the fray:

+ Delay, house majority leader - GOP. indicted, finished and not looking forward to his day in court.

+ Frist, senate majority leader - GOP. Being investigated, going downhill fast and his future isn't looking to bright either.

+ Abramoff, asshole and big time power broker - GOP. Indicted, radioactive and is probably going to jail for a loooong time.

+ Safavian, incompetent asshole and Whitehouse procurement honcho - GOP. Arrested, radioactive and is now looking forward to do some quality time with buddy Abramoff.

+ Franklin, neocon sucker and DoD spy - GOP. Made a plea with the feds and is going to jail.

+ Brown, fired FEMA director - GOP. Hemorrhaging political capital for * and ridiculed for giving incompetent people a bad name by just showing up.

+ Rove/Libby, gatekeepers for * and Cheney - GOP. If Miller squeals and these jokers get indicted, will set off the biggest political scandal since Watergate.

= GOP core meltdown and the lamest, most fucked-up president in the history of the United States. Probably drinking like a sponge by now...

[wicket]

163. She's going in front of the grand jury tomorrow morning

This could get good! :evilgrin:

[Lone_Star_Dem]

43. If Libby had given her a release a year ago

Don't you think he could have called and reminded her that she was sitting in the slammer for no reason?

There's more to this than what we see from the outside looking in.

It was reported last month that she was seeking a release from her source. We know it's not as if she just all of a sudden came up with the idea to give him a ring and see if he had previously released her.

Keep in mind that he did make her sit there for months, that could tend to make a person a bit angry.

[rodeodance]

48. msnbc has story right now.

[rodeodance]

49. saying she goes to Fed. court tomorrow.

[rodeodance]

50. saying JM had been skeptical about 'releases" saying they do not know

the sourse!! but this PHilly art. says it was Libby.

[rodeodance]

51. the 'sourse' decided she no longer had to protect her sourse!!

[rodeodance]

52. msnbc did not mention Libby as the 'sourse'. strange.

[rodeodance]

55. but they did not give a hint as to why.

[Rose Siding]

120. They probably mean the form releases that the WH made them sign

Then the WH turned those over to the FBI. The journalists didn't give any weight to them because of the likelihood of coercion- as in: "here, sign this or you're fired"

[DLnyc]

146. Sounds like everyone sees at this point Fitz has Libby cold.

so there's no point in Miller holding out. In other words, Libby is nailed (via other testimony, or maybe even his own admission), so might as well let Miller testify and get out of jail. That's seems like the most sensible read to me, at this point.

[AuntiBush]

154. Or his boss, maybe...

just thinkin' aloud...

[DLnyc]

157. Yes, that's a pleasant thought.

Couldn't happen to a more deserving cyborg.

[AuntiBush]

161. Hm.

Think:

During Katrina, *^wife place deposit on a 2.5$ St. Mary's Island mansion. Just lookin' out for an early retirement, maybe?

In & out of hospitals, a lot these days lately.

[Lerkfish]

207. hey! that's an insult to good cyborgs everywhere...Booyah!

:)

[rodeodance]

56. kick

[rodeodance]

59. Olberman story on now also. they are also saying 'sourse" but it is

the same reporter that was msnbc a few minutes ago. repeating the same story.

[rodeodance]

60. sourse not confirmed so he will not speculate. Pilly paper seems to know.

[rodeodance]

61. "why now"---he asks and no one knows why now and 'abruptness"

[rodeodance]

62. just saying that Judith has been 'released by her souce' who they do not

know that is. and will not speculate.

[rodeodance]

63. he just says we may know more tomorrow when she appears in court.

[OzarkDem]

68. And tomorrow is a Friday...

great day for burying bad news about Bush.

[rodeodance]

75. well, the court where Judy will go tomorrow does not follow Bush schedule.

[rodeodance]

76. Keith recapping--well know the courts tomorrow will know the source.

[rodeodance]

69. Olberman now is reporting the Philly story--Libby as the source! slow

today Keith.

[rodeodance]

70. need to remember this is about wmd. yes!!

[rodeodance]

72. Olberman asking "why now" again to reporter. Rich Wolfee (sp) is the

reporter.

[rodeodance]

73. He, too is frustrated cause Fritz does NOT leak -saying the WH is

frustrated also. te he.

[goforit]

92. Hope she will live through it.

[batt188]

110. Why now?

hmmmm. isn't * selecting a supreme court justice tomorrow. I suspect that it will be a doozy and the Judith Miller news will disappear down the rabbit hole.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

124. Doesn't matter

This is one event that doesn't require media coverage. Her testimony tomorrow is all that's required. After that the case should wrap up pretty quickly and then the indictments will be handed down.

The indictments are what I want to see the media cover and I'm sure they will.

[JanusAscending]

166. OK!! Enough damn it!! It's SOURCE!! SOURCE! not sourse

My sensibilities are spinning out of kontrole!!!:7

[BigBearJohn]

78. I guess she saw no use in going down with the buship..er. ship.

[goforit]

107. Now this is just too logical.

[zonkra]

80. Maybe

Judy Miller and Michael Brown can share an office as consultants at Halliburton, working for Joe Allbaugh? Sort of like an evil version of Mork and Mindy?

[leetrisck]

82. Could this be tied to the Franklin plea

deal today? Possibly???

[DemReadingDU]

88. Hmm, interesting thought

[AuntiBush]

153. Might Be...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIPAC_espionage_scandal

[The_Casual_Observer]

87. For some reason the wh told libby to release Miller.

They took a LONG time to do this. If there weren't anything to this whole thing they would have released her right away. Is it possible they have been backed into a corner and are about to surrender?

[goforit]

111. Hmmm...Yah, this is becoming too obvious, something else may be up.

[Bumblebee]

132. Hope you are right but am afraid to be so optimistic.

[LiviaOlivia]

90. from the "unbiased" AP

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-miller30sep30,0,597094.story?coll=la-tot-promo&track=morenews
NYT Reporter Leaves Jail After Agreeing to Testify
From Associated Press

5:39 PM PDT, September 29, 2005

After nearly three months in jail, New York Times reporter Judith Miller was released Thursday after agreeing to testify in the investigation into the disclosure of the identity of a covert CIA officer, two people familiar with the case said.

Miller left the federal detention center in Alexandria, Va., after reaching an agreement with Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald. Legal sources said she would appear before a grand jury investigation the case Friday morning. The sources spoke on condition of anonymity because of the secrecy of the grand jury proceedings.

[hippiegranny]

91. if she really IS going to sing

she better stay out of small planes and have an army of body guards.

[rodeodance]

93. AP: JAILED NEW YORK TIMES REPORTER JUDITH MILLER RELEASED AFTER AGREEING T

Breaking News from ABCNEWS.com:

AP: JAILED NEW YORK TIMES REPORTER JUDITH MILLER RELEASED AFTER AGREEING TO TESTIFY IN CIA LEAK PROBE


http://abcnews.go.com?CMP=EMC-1396

[xultar]

94. oooo so Scooter didn't free her, she ratted on his ass!

[Davion]

104. He called her

It seems that he did call her and free her to testify. But that begs the question of why he let an older woman (and political ally) rot in a cell for so long.

I have my theory:

"
L. "Scooter" Libby, Chief of Staff to the Vice President of the United States

[aquart]

105. Raw Story says he did.

<http://rawstory.com/news/2005/NY_Times_reporter_Judith_Miller_released_0929.html>

[xultar]

114. OK that makes sense.

[FourStarDemocrat]

200. Libby might be preparing to resign anyway... that wouldn't surprise me

Maybe they just don't care anymore about protecting Bush/Rove.

[skooooo]

95. This would seem to bring even more damage to the pugs, right?

All of this is snowballing so fast, I can already see a future evening news story:

The faces of Brownie, Abramoff, Delay, Frist, Rove, Libby under the title of LARGE SCALE FEDERAL CORRUPTION.

Did I miss anyone? Seriously, what if all of this turns out to be Watergate cubed??

[ClintonTyree]

116. Yeah, but Bill Clinton had sex with Monica Lewinski.......

and that's SOOOOO much worse than ANY of this! :eyes: I shit you not, there are people that actually think this way. You can't make shit like this up, there are people who really DO think that Bill Clinton's sexual peccadillo's are far worse transgressions than anything the bush administration has done. :banghead:
I see stupid people! :wow:

[skooooo]

123. Bill did something nasty!

And that's a REALLY bad thing!!!!!

[Name removed]

158. Deleted message

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[AverageJoe]

162. self delete

[Lindacooks]

165. Uh, no, he didn't.

Perjury has to be a deliberate lie (his statements were vague) about a material matter (relevant to the case), in a case that has merit (the case was dismissed). The Senate ACQUITTED him of perjury.

Get your facts straight.

[Jawja]

96. Can't Contain my GLEE

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

:woohoo: :woohoo:

:applause: :applause:

:popcorn:

[shadowknows69]

97. smells fishy

I hope not. Looking forward to the rolling of heads.

[rocktivity]

102. I think the timing is odd

Was Miller "assigned" to stay in jail until after a Bush-friendly Supreme court chief justice was installed?

:headbang:
rocknation

[Pirate Smile]

103. I bet Fitzy told her he was going to go after her for criminal contempt.

Just a guess though.

[stillcool]

112. Such a coincidence...

Roberts confirmed...Judith sprung!!..and i'm all out of tinfoil.

[jazzjunkysue]

147. Here you go. Have some of mine. I stocked up for the hurricane.

:hug:

[jillan]

115. My thoughts exactly! Now that Roberts is in, Judith is free.

It is too odd.
I was thinking this months ago.
And it is happening.

I'm starting a new thread on this!

[alcibiades_mystery]

172. That doesn't make any sense

Roberts has nothing to do with Miller, the investigation, the grand jury, or any pending proceedings. You're being paranoid, and not even in a sensible way.

[buzzard]

178. Not likely Rehnquist was not yet dead and who knows how long he could have

lived.

[goforit]

101. Quite the artistry!!...But keep pppraying for justice!!!

[batt188]

98. oh boy oh boy

please please please let this come to a conclusion (indictments all around)- the suspense is killing me!

[Rabrrrrrr]

99. Jesus, I'm damn near actually giggling with delight,

the way Homer sometimes gets his little giggle thing going when chasing a squirrel.

[nadinbrzezinski]

100. Hmm she will finally turn on Karl?

:popcorn:

Anybody else

:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:

[BootinUp]

109. OK Then! :)

[BootinUp]

108. What the hell?!! n/t

[ellenfl]

113. she's going to name brownie as the source. eom

[CountAllVotes]

117. Miller Agrees to Testify in CIA Leak Probe

WASHINGTON - After nearly three months behind bars, New York Times reporter Judith Miller was released from a federal prison Thursday after agreeing to testify in the investigation into the disclosure of the identity of a covert
CIA officer, two people familiar with the case said.

Miller left the federal detention center in Alexandria, Va., after reaching an agreement with Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald. Legal sources said she would appear before a grand jury investigating the case Friday morning. The sources spoke on condition of anonymity because of the secrecy of the grand jury proceedings.

The sources said Miller agreed to testify after securing an unconditional release from Vice President
Dick Cheney's chief of staff, I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, to testify about any discussions they had involving CIA officer Valerie Plame.

Miller has been held at the federal detention facility since July 6. A federal judge ordered her jailed when she refused to testify before the grand jury investigating the alleged leak of CIA officer Plame's name by White House officials.

The disclosure of Plame's identity by syndicated columnist Robert Novak in July 2003 triggered an inquiry that has caused political damage to the Bush White House and could still result in criminal charges against government officials.

more ...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050930/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/cia_leak_investigation;_ylt=AhRwAeU9vjJIVAyyhsKg_4Ks0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA2Z2szazkxBHNlYwN0bQ--

[rodeodance]

121. the emphasis needs to be on the leak.

[lovuian]

136. I love that "unconditional release from Vice President Dick Cheney"

chief of staff office!!! That sooo says connect the dots here people!!! The newspapers have!!!

[jazzjunkysue]

149. The VP outs a CIA operative as retribution. Oh. How. I. Love. This.

:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:

[barbaraann]

118. Maybe she was worried about her marriage and decided to talk.

http://talkleft.com/new_archives/011660.html

[GeorgeGist]

122. New York Times

Jailed Times Reporter Freed After Source Waives Confidentiality

By DAVID JOHNSTON
and DOUGLAS JEHL
Published: September 29, 2005

WASHINGTON, Sept. 29 - Judith Miller, the New York Times reporter who has been jailed since July 6 for refusing to testify in the C.I.A. leak case, was released from a Virginia detention center this afternoon after she and her lawyers reached an agreement with a federal prosecutor to testify before a grand jury investigating the matter, the paper's publisher and executive editor said.
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Ms. Miller was freed after spending more than 12 weeks in jail.

Ms. Miller was freed after spending more than 12 weeks in jail, during which she refused to cooperate with the criminal inquiry. Her decision to testify came after she obtained what she described as a waiver offered "voluntarily and personally" by a source who said she was no longer bound by any pledge of confidentiality she had made to him. She said the source had made clear that he genuinely wanted her to testify.

That source was I. Lewis Libby, Vice President Dick Cheney's chief of staff, according to people who have been officially briefed on the case. Ms. Miller met with Mr. Libby on July 8, 2003, and talked with him by telephone later that week. Discussions between government officials and journalists that week have been a central focus of the investigation.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/29/politics/29cnd-court.html?hp

Libby does what Cheney wants. What is Cheney up to?

[Bumblebee]

128. it's weird. Something does not quite add up.

Fortunately, not too long to wait to find out what was going on since her testimony is tomorrow. There will be reporters at the courthouse and she will make some kind of a statement.

[rodeodance]

133. maybe she will talk. we will see.

[catnhatnh]

134. In the case of the Delay Indictment out of Texas....

...wording of the indictment indicated prior contact with both Delay and his legal team....My bet is that someone in the administration has been notified they WILL be indicted and that whatever Judy knows,Fitz already knows too...hence, no need to stonewall any longer-the wall has been breeched....

[Bumblebee]

137. They may also want to have all bad news not drip by drip but together

Sometimes it gets so overwhelming that way that people forget half of it. I have felt for a while that this "overwhelming" technique is a part of their strategy.

[goforit]

170. There is nothing like momentum....Let the pendulum swing.

[shavedape]

150. this reeks of rove

dirty tricks

[Tight_rope]

175. I totally agree...this makes no sense...why didn't she cough up ...

good before. She had to know that she would be caught with the evidence in her bag...why not just cough it up from get go.:spank:

Anyway...can't wait to see her sing like a canary.:popcorn:

[sofa king]

130. Hmmm. Scooter let her go, eh?

A little thinking out loud. Forgive my rambling--or enjoy this glimpse into a troubled mind.

The other night I joked that the Night of the Long Knives might be upon us, but I never suspected that the good guys might be the ones doing the stabbing.

With a nice thirteen-month lead time for damage control before the next Congressional elections, we have some of the most egregious offenders of the Republican leadership being knocked off by scandal, arrest, or indictment.

For the past month I've been ranting that Jack Abramoff is connected to the 9/11 terrorists, that the Bush Administration must have known in advance of the attacks, and that if the American public ever figured it out, it would be blood in the streets.

Maybe someone has orchestrated a graceful exit: start actually prosecuting certain offenders for the litany of lesser crimes in which they are all involved, while continuing to conceal that most dangerous revelation. Maybe they cut a deal.

Except for one thing: the War Wing of the executive branch has been notably unmolested--promoted, even. Cheney, Bolton, Wolfowitz, and Rumsfeld--the ones who philosophically asked for a "Pearl Harbor" attack back in 2000 as part of the PNAC, all seem to be doing just fine. All except Scooter, that is.

Not one of these pending cases will reach sentencing before 2007, just in time for the President to pardon them all.

I suppose the real question is: who will that President be?

[mirrera]

151. VERY good point...n/t

[goforit]

168. I like the way you think out loud......This is what just might be happenin

[Mind_your_head]

169. Interesting analysis.....very good point(s)! n/t

[savemefromdumbya]

135. she is going to lie, probably nt

nt

[TOOLZ]

138. Libby's falling on the sword for Rove

This was calculated to release pressure from Repub leaders after Delay and Frist got tarnished.

[lovuian]

139. I think Judith was obstructing justice making the trial delay

so as to drag out the trial!!! Now she was looking like she was obstructing justice and so was Libby!!! Just the fact she refused to testify made her obstructive to justice!!! This is good!!!

[Bumblebee]

140. The updated AP article is quite informative

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/national/AP-CIA-Leak-Investigation.html

[creeksneakers2]

141. She couldn't handle prison

The Times story indicates that Miller's lawyers started working on a new release from Libby in late August. (After Judy held out a couple of months) Its gone almost the whole way until October for a deal to be worked out? Libby must have really not wanted to give the release. Judy must have threatened to talk with or without it. Eventually a deal was worked out.

Folks like Judith Miller have no souls and will sell out their partners every time. No honor among thieves. It was only a matter of time.

[bhuddaboy]

145. Wake Me Up

When September Ends.

[MadJohnShaft]

148. I never knew anything was odd about Judith Miller from watching TV

I'd been following the Judith Miller story very closely on the MSM and I never once got the impression that she was anything but a nobel journalist protecting the highest aspirations of her profession.

(offtopic: Is it okay to stick in here how much I love this website?
thank you all so much. I'm really getting addicted and everytime something happens in the news I click over here right away to get the truth and some jokes).

[alcibiades_mystery]

173. Judith Miller is a neoconservative ideologue and party flack

The only thing she was honoring was Bush's backside.

But also, welcome to DU, and sorry for being mean. It's just that that woman's egrewgious reporting paved the way for the slaughter that is the Iraq war, and for that she should be up on charges, as are the radio talking heads who contributed to the genocide in Rwanda. She is directly culpable for tens of thousands of unnecessary deaths, and there's nothing honorable about that. So, it's not you I'm angry about, but rather Judith Miller, who sets me off every time. Welcome, gain! :hi:

[Festivito]

152. Time to cluster indictments?

Many indictments all at once, blame Dem partisanship. Then, it's all done well before elections.

Bush just successfully stopped public from learning that he did not order help to Orleans county. Not one morning program, not one news program, not one.

If they can get past Katrina, anything is possible.

[Trevelyan]

181. I am disappointed - I have been emailing Cooper, Brian Williams and

sometimes Shepard Smith and Geraldo when I can find their email to report on the Blackwater mercenaries, the planned incineration of tons of food from UK, Spain, Italy and Israel, and the NOLA evacuees being sent around the country, some behind barbed wire or guarded behind fences not allowed to speak to the press.

Bush asked a number of governors to accept 10,000 evacuees each but only sent several hundred. The governors had to declare a State of Emergency to get aid which is a step away from Martial Law in which all laws are suspended. Thought bushco was trying to evade Fitzgerald indictments by illegally declaring Martial Law in NOLA then many other, if not all, stated.

I hope and pray that Fitzgerald can send the Federal Marshalls in after the entire bush regime and since Fitz can't indict POTUS but the Congress can Impeach = Indict. Rep. McKinney mentioned and may be called for Impeachment and as usual the mention of Impeachment was stricken from the Congressional Record. If she called for Impeachment and not just mentioned it, according to law, just one House member is necessary to start Impeachment.

Shamefully for the liberal blogosphere, Rep McKinney had to place her speech against the word impeachment being striken and the rest of the speech deals with the deliberate obstruction of aid to NOLA and the MK-ULTRA and Tuskee experiments related to evacuees behind barbed wire herself on Bellacio and at the bottom Rense.com.
I thought it took only one Representative to call for impeachment to get the ball rolling but if they censor the Congressional Record... Rep. McKinney should be invited to do article for DU or at least DU should do a story on this speech.

http://bellaciao.org/en/article.php3?id_article=8235

technorati.com/Introducing ... The 'Impeach Bush Coalition'
A United Coalition of Blogs for the Impeachment of George W. Bush
'Impeach Bush' is the #1 searched term on Technocrati today
http://impeachbushcoalition.blogspot.com/
http://www.petitiononline.com/DropBush/petition.html
http://www.counterpunch.org/boyle09162005.html
Katrina, Bush and Cheney - Grounds for Impeachment

[tableturner]

156. Here's what I think happened.......

Fitz made it clear that he would pursue criminal contempt, and that he would do so relentlessly. Obviously, she would absolutely be forced to testify because of this. So at that point, knowing that her testimony would eventually be given, Libby released her just to get the process moving.

In other words, why make her sit in jail for a few more months, when eventually, she would have to give in and testify, anyway? All it would do would be to postpone the inevitable for a few more months, and even Libby wants this case to go ahead and move forward.

[Bumblebee]

160. The WP story

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/29/AR2005092901974.html

[paineinthearse]

164. Libby's lawyers claim they are shocked, shocked!!!!!!!

On August 8 Conyers blogged about Libby waiver of confidientality

http://www.conyersblog.us/archives/00000260.htm

Blogged by JC on 09.29.05 @ 11:10 PM ET

Miller to Testify on Friday

Just learned from the on-line edition of the Washington Post that Judith Miller was released from jail today in exchange for agreeing to testify before the grand jury tomorrow. Apparently, she called Libby and was able to confirm the he was releasing her from her pledge of confidentiality.

Amazingly, Libby's lawyers claim they are shocked, shocked, that their client's failure to provide a waiver of confidentiality had anything to do with Miller refusing to testify for three months, stating innocently "We are surprised to learn we had anything to do with her incarceration." I guess they don't read the conyersblog, because on August 8 I wrote to Mr. Libby pleading for such a waiver.

Anyway, here is to hoping that the testimony breaks Plame-gate wide open. Maybe this is part of the House and Senate GOP strategy of taking the heat off of Frist and Delay by changing the subject from insider trading and money laundering to treason?

[volitionx]

171. The Bitch Is Protecting Her Masters

Little whiner Judy wouldn't snitch on Lewis Libby? Why the fuck not? Does he DESERVE to be protected? Surely not.

She's not a civil libertarian for pete's sake. She's ONE OF THEM. Anyone protecting these fascists is ON MY SHIT LIST, and should be on yours, too.

[Historic NY]

174. Bolton must be in on this too, he just visited her in the last week or so.

More pieces to the puzzle, they might think they got Roves ass covered and Libby is going to take the heat for him. I think old Fitz is about to hand down some indictments. It would look pointless to keep her locked up for nothing.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/16/AR2005091601646_pf.html

[jazzjunkysue]

224. Bolton is an original neocon, and that's behind everything. Period.

Bolton signed the famous 1997 letter to Clinton begging him to invade Iraw. Clinton just laughed at them. So, they cooked up Lewinskygate, and decided to steal middle eastern oil.

And that's behind all of it, because Wilson exposed the lies that gave the neocons cover for their occupation. This crime family is like all others: Defiance (Wilson) will be punished, and outing his wife risked her life and ended her power base. It was supposed to be a warning shot off her bow, to deter other defections.

Well, that strategy hasn't worked, and now the entire administration is going to be up on charges of treason.

This is impeachable, and that's why Miller didn't want to finger Libby: It opens them all up to treason, and they'll kill to prevent that. That's the only good reason someone would sit in jail for months for something someone else did.

Let's hope her testimony today fingered Cheney. It will be the beginning of the impeachment when it's made public.

[Nothing Without Hope]

176. Here is NYT link and also a link to a thread on Conyers' blog on this

The OP does not have a link to the NY Times article. Here it is, with an excerpt:

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/30/politics/30COURT.html?hp&ex=1128139200&en=2ad1e58f95f5ea69&ei=5094&partner=homepage

Times Reporter Free From Jail; She Will Testify

By DAVID JOHNSTON and DOUGLAS JEHL
Published: September 30, 2005

(snip)

Ms. Miller was freed after spending more than 12 weeks in jail, during which she refused to cooperate with the inquiry. Her decision to testify was made after she had obtained what she described as a waiver offered "voluntarily and personally" by a source who said she was no longer bound by any pledge of confidentiality she had made to him. Ms. Miller said the source had made clear that he genuinely wanted her to testify.

That source was I. Lewis Libby, Vice President Dick Cheney's chief of staff, according to people who have been officially briefed on the case. Ms. Miller met with Mr. Libby on July 8, 2003, and talked with him by telephone later that week, they said.

(snip)

As part of the agreement, Mr. Bennett gave Mr. Fitzgerald edited versions of notes taken by Ms. Miller about her conversations with Mr. Libby.

In statements on Thursday, Ms. Miller and executives of The Times did not identify the source who had urged Ms. Miller to testify. Bill Keller, the executive editor, said Mr. Fitzgerald had assured Ms. Miller's lawyer that "he intended to limit his grand jury interrogation so that it would not implicate other sources of hers."

(snip)

The text said that the deal made with Miller's lawyers was based on not asking anything about other sources. This, and Libby's willingness for Miller to testify, tells me that the dirt she knows doesn't come from Libby, or else she is sure she and the Bush Administration are sure she can get away with perjury because her notes do not record the illegal parts of what was said.

There are also various statements on this development, linked to in the NY Times heading on the article. {Mods: the statements by individuals are not under copyright rules and thus the 4-paragraph rule, they are official disclosures.}

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001219289
Statements by Sulzberger, Keller, and Miller on Her Release

Arthur Sulzberger, Jr.



By E&P Staff

Published: September 29, 2005 9:30 PM ET
NEW YORK The New York Times' publisher, editor, and formerly jailed reporter Judith Miller all issued statements Thursday night after her release, with Miller's grand jury testimony in the Plame probe now set for Friday, they confirmed.

A Times story late on Thursday revealed that as part of Miller's agreement, one of her attorneys, Robert Bennett, gave Patrick J. Fitzgerald, the federal prosecutor, edited versions of notes taken by Miller about her conversations with I. Lewis Libby.

According to the Times, Libby, Vice President Cheney's chief of staff, "had made clear that he genuinely wanted her to testify," and gave her an uncoerced waiver on their confidential conversations.

The Times story also revealed that Libby and his lawyers say he offered the waiver a year ago -- and then again ten days ago -- but Miller did not accept it. She was released today after she and her lawyers met at the jail with Fitzgerald to discuss her testimony, which will be severely limited, the Times revealed. A full E&P report can be found here (http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001219261).

(snip - says any indictments in the Plame case may come "as early as next week.")

STATEMENTS FOLLOW:

***

Arthur O. Sulzberger, Jr., Publisher:

As we have throughout this ordeal, we continue to support Judy Miller in the decision she has made. Judy has been unwavering in her commitment to protect the confidentiality of her source. We are very pleased that she has finally received a direct and uncoerced waiver, both by phone and in writing, releasing her from any claim of confidentiality and enabling her to testify. We continue to believe that a strong Federal Shield Law must be passed by Congress, so that similar injustices, which the laws of both New York and Washington, D.C. already prevent, are not suffered by other journalists.

***

Judith Miller:

It's good to be free.

I went to jail to preserve the time-honored principle that a journalist must respect a promise not to reveal the identity of a confidential source. I chose to take the consequences -- 85 days in prison -- rather than violate that promise. The principle was more important to uphold than my personal freedom.

I am leaving jail today because my source has now voluntarily and personally released me from my promise of confidentiality regarding our conversations relating to the Wilson-Plame matter. My attorneys have also reached agreement with the Office of Special Counsel regarding the nature and scope of my testimony, which satisfies my obligation as a reporter to keep faith with my sources.

This enables me to appear before the Grand Jury tomorrow. I'll say nothing more until after my testimony. I do, however, want to thank The New York Times, and my husband, family and friends, for their unwavering support. I am also grateful to the many fellow journalists and citizens from the United States and around the world, who stood with me in fighting for the cause of the free flow of information. It was a source of strength through a difficult three months to know they understood what I did was to affirm one of my profession's highest principles.

***

Bill Keller, Executive Editor:

It's an enormous relief that Judy's ordeal is over. Her steadfastness in defense of principle has won her admiration from around the world, wherever people value a free, aggressive press.

Judy refused to testify in this case because she gave her professional word that she would keep her interview with her source confidential. At the outset, she had only a generic waiver of this obligation, and she believed she had ample reason to doubt it had been freely given. In recent days, several important things have changed that convinced Judy that she was released from her obligation.

Her friends and colleagues are delighted she's free, and -- if there is satisfaction in what she has endured -- I am satisfied that she has held fast to a principle that matters deeply.

The idea that Judith Miller is being allowed to set her lying self up as any kind of defender of freedom is beyond sickening. The blood of thousands of soldiers and civilians, dead in the Iraqi War that she played such a willing and ambitious role in promoting, are on her hands forever. She does not care, but we will never forget. We need to LTTE the NYT to object to this hypocritical pose, blatantly supported by the paper. There is no hint that they regret the thousands of deaths due in part to Miller's publications in their paper. And she STILL has her job. This is unnacceptable.

Re Miller testifying, if the Bush Administration thought she would spill the dirt, she would not be speaking. I don't see any way her testimony can be proven to be truthful - and we know from her Iraq stories that she's very comfortable with truly murderous lies if they advance her career. Plus, by the terms of her deal, no questions can be asked about her OTHER sources - if the traitorous leak came from one of them instead of Libby, she doesn't have to tell.

I'm betting it was Bolton. By the terms of her deal, she doesn't have to tell.

Here is a link to a thread on Conyers' blog entry on Miller's release:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4932095
thread title: On August 8, Conyers blogged about Libby waiver of confidientality

[Binka]

182. Oh My Gawd NWH I thought I was reading a satire piece

Arthur O. Sulzberger, Jr., Publisher:

As we have throughout this ordeal, we continue to support Judy Miller in the decision she has made. Judy has been unwavering in her commitment to protect the confidentiality of her source. We are very pleased that she has finally received a direct and uncoerced waiver, both by phone and in writing, releasing her from any claim of confidentiality and enabling her to testify. We continue to believe that a strong Federal Shield Law must be passed by Congress, so that similar injustices, which the laws of both New York and Washington, D.C. already prevent, are not suffered by other journalists.

***
What The Fuck??????

Bill Keller, Executive Editor:

It's an enormous relief that Judy's ordeal is over. Her steadfastness in defense of principle has won her admiration from around the world, wherever people value a free, aggressive press.

Judy refused to testify in this case because she gave her professional word that she would keep her interview with her source confidential. At the outset, she had only a generic waiver of this obligation, and she believed she had ample reason to doubt it had been freely given. In recent days, several important things have changed that convinced Judy that she was released from her obligation.

Her friends and colleagues are delighted she's free, and -- if there is satisfaction in what she has endured -- I am satisfied that she has held fast to a principle that matters deeply.


Mother Fucking Cock Sucking Assholes! Unreal and I want to kick something really hard. Judy is a traitorous BITCH FROM THE SEWER. A GUTTERSNIPE. These fuckers sing her praise like she is God Damn Joan Of Arc?

[Nothing Without Hope]

201. yes, EXACTLY. And Arianna Huffington NAILS this in her piece today:

It is absolutely not to be missed. The brief excerpt cannot do her justified outrage justice:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/arianna-huffington/miller-walks-the-plot-th_b_8116.html
Arianna Huffington / Huffington Post / Sept 30, 2005

Miller Walks: The Plot Thickens

It’s time for Judy Miller and Arthur Sulzberger to change their talking points.

The claim that Miller “has finally received a direct and uncoerced waiver” is laughable… and, indeed, has already been laughed at by 1) my increasingly frustrated sources within the Times 2) a chorus of voices in the blogosphere (see here, here, and here) and 3) (and much more significantly) Joseph Tate, Scooter Libby’s lawyer, who told the Washington Post yesterday that he informed Miller’s attorney, Floyd Abrams, a year ago that Libby’s waiver “was voluntary and that Miller was free to testify”.

So it defies credulity for Miller, Sulzberger, and Bill Keller to keep insisting that Libby’s earlier waiver was coerced when Libby says that it wasn’t. I don’t have much good to say about the vice president’s chief of staff, but I don’t doubt that he knows the difference between being coerced and acting on his own free will. How deep is the Times’ contempt for its readers that they really think they’ll buy the “Oh, Judy finally has the right waiver” line?

The truth of the matter is there is no way that the New York Times editorial claiming “it should be clear…that Ms. Miller is not going to change her mind” can be squared with Ms. Miller changing her mind. And there is no way to accept at face value Miller’s grandstanding about “fighting for the cause of the free flow of information.” Who is she still trying to convince? Herself?

(snip - much more)

[Binka]

204. Blistering Great Stuff From Arianna

"How deep is the Times’ contempt for its readers" indeed. Fuck the Screw You Times, if I'm gonna take it up the ass it had better be with MY consent! Fuckwittage!

[Nothing Without Hope]

177. My two reasons for thinking this will NOT GET AT THE TRUTH:

1. There is no way to ensure that Miller's testimony does not include perjury about what was actually said in those Plame-related conversation(s). Her Iraq War work show she's perfectly comfortable with murderous lies, and the paper editors must be too because she still has her job after her criminal role in passing the Administration's lies in the leadup to the war.

2. According to the deal made with Fitzgerald's team and Miller's lawyers, she cannot be asked about any of her other sources. So if it was BOLTON who was the traitor who told her, or indeed if it was anyone but Libby, she DOES NOT HAVE TO TELL.

I'm betting it was Bolton who talked to her, and by the deal that has been made, she will not have to divulge this. This is JUSTICE???

[paineinthearse]

179. I don't understand how and why Murray Waas' August 8 Libby memo expose

was lost.

See http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4932547&mesg_id=4932547

[TheModernTerrorist]

180. cmon everybody...

give her a break.... she was just waiting so they could all get their stories straight and find a patsie to pin it on ;-)

[GOPAgainstGW]

183. CNN: Judith Miller-Cheney Chief of Staff Was Secret Source

Judith Miller-Cheney Chief of Staff Was Secret Source
Jailed reporter reaches deal in CIA leak probe

(CNN) -- After spending 12 weeks behind bars protecting a confidential source, New York Times reporter Judith Miller was released from jail after receiving permission from her source to provide evidence to a federal grand jury investigating the leak of a CIA operative's name.

<snip>

Lewis "Scooter" Libby, Vice President Dick Cheney's chief of staff, called Miller in prison September 19 to personally free her from the pledge of confidentiality, a move that apparently contributed to her release, Libby's attorney, Joseph Tate of Philadelphia, told CNN.

New York Times publisher Arthur Sulzberger Jr. said the newspaper supported Miller's decision to testify. "We are very pleased that she has finally received a direct and uncoerced waiver, by phone and in writing, releasing her from any claim of confidentiality and enabling her to testify," he said in a statement.

<snip>

The chain of events that led to the contempt charges against Miller began in July 2003, when syndicated columnist Robert Novak, who is also a CNN contributor, identified Plame as a CIA operative in his column. He cited unidentified senior administration sources for the information.

<snip>

"In recent days, several important things have changed that convinced Judy that she was released from her obligation," Keller said in a statement. He did not provide details of what those changes were. Miller said in her statement that she would not comment until after she testifies before the grand jury.

'Why didn't someone call us?' Tate said Libby signed a waiver of confidentiality more than a year ago, which Tate followed with a phone call to New York Times attorney Floyd Abrams assuring him that Libby's waiver was voluntary. Over the Labor Day weekend, Miller's attorney, Robert Bennett, tracked Tate down in Martha's Vineyard to tell him she had not accepted the waiver as valid because "it came from lawyers." "I assured Bennett that it was voluntary, and he asked, 'Would Scooter say that to Judy?' And I said, 'Scooter doesn't want to see Judy in jail,'" Tate said. "My reaction was, why didn't someone call us 80 days ago?" he said of his conversation with Bennett.

<snip>

GOPA Says>>>READ THE REST OF THE ARTICLE - THIS IS VERY STRANGE, IMO

http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/09/30/cia.leak/

[mike_c]

184. libby watched Miller sit in jail for four months....

Something has changed. Something is very fucked up.

[Old Mouse]

186. took that long to convince Libby to take the fall n/t

[NVMojo]

185. you are right, this is very weird ....and very fucked up at this time!!!

[oldtime dfl_er]

187. It's all very strange

There are still way too many questions here. Why did she sit in jail for another 10 days after the phone call? What kind of deal is being brokered here?


http://www.cafepress.com/scarebaby/658010

[Fridays Child]

188. Roberts confirmed, Miller released. Hmm.

:tinfoilhat:

[radfringe]

195. my first thought

when I heard about Miller's release because her source waived confidentiality was -- hmmmmm...right after DeLay gets indicted? was it done to take the media heat off of DeLay? :tinfoilhat:

[nonconformist]

189. Does this administration do anything that isn't completely inept?

He said he and Libby assumed Miller was jailed for protecting another source or for another unknown reason, and said he did not know why it took 10 days to release Miller following her conversation with Libby.

This whole story is bizarro.

[Pachamama]

190. The straws were drawn, Libby takes the fall for Cheney, Bush, Bolton etc.

Looks like they figured they better have one person fall and hope that the rest don't get dragged down with him.

I'm sure that Judy has her "talking points" for the "official" story....

My hope is that Fitzgerald and the Grand Jury have much more evidence that goes much deeper than the Neo-con Bush/Cheney Cabal suspects and that all that Judy's testimony to the grand jury and the revealing as Scooter Libby as her "source" will just confirm what they know and help substantiate further the bigger truth behind the lies....

[Why Syzygy]

191. Seems she is CYA

I hope so. Libby? Has he "served" enough already? Time to retire.
In the big house.

[Ben Ceremos]

192. I would sketch it like this...

Libby takes the fall, because Rove or Cheney are the actual source and the White House Gang That Couldn't Shoot Straight cannot afford to have these 2 fall. Bolton/Miller connection is a red herring. Cheney's chief of staff is expendable because all he is really handling are Halliburtons no-bid contracts. Rove/Cheney are the "masterminds" behind the entire operation for Global Oil Domination (GOD), with it's unnecessary wars and Bolton is needed to buttfuck the UN into compliance. The Bolton/Miller link was most likely offered as a first attempt to distract because Bolton has managed to get the IAEA to do an Iraq on the Iranians. Libby isn't going to go to jail for too long as Bush is issuing pardons like they are going out of style. Also, Libby is going to receive a juicy bonus for being the fall guy, I bet.
Fitzgerald is hot on their heels and they are desperate to shut down his investigation, thus, Libby's "confession". Fitzgerald will probably be ordered to end the investigation in a week or two. But he won't because this Libby/Miller pact is a fake, just as it appears to be. Fitzgerald cannot miss the fact that Libby being offered up is a sign that there is blood in the water, and Fitz is the only one who could have bitten hard enough to spill it...so he knows he can't stop now.
Can anyone further my prognostications?

[OneBlueSky]

193. sounds about right to me . . . n/t

.

[Pachamama]

194. Spot on assessment my friend...I think that's a good sketch...I also think

that Fitzgerald has got more info than they realize and that Rove/Cheney are hedging their bets hoping he doesn't have more and hoping that offering the sacrifical lamb will help close things down. My hunch is that it will do no such thing and that Fitzgerald will actually be helped with this offering. I think that Novak and some other unknown sources sang....I think that Fitzgerald got info that even Rove/Cheney thought would stay secret....

PS: Welcome to the DU :toast:

[Nothing Without Hope]

221. I actually suspect Bolton is in the middle of this. Reasons in this thread

especially in the articles in the replies:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4932994
thread title: Here are two reasons why I believe JUDITH MILLER WILL NOT GIVE THE TRUTH:

[davsand]

220. Who all got Presidential pardons yesterday or even this week?

Seems to me that somebody got let off the hook, and now Judith gets sprung from the pokey...

I'm just saying...


Laura

[Nothing Without Hope]

196. RELATED THREAD on why Miller won’t give truth and Bolton is likely leaker

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4932994
thread title: Here are two reasons why I believe JUDITH MILLER WILL NOT GIVE THE TRUTH:

Please come join this discussion. There is documentation there to support the following arguments and scenarios:

First, the two reasons why Fitzgerald will NOT get the truth from Judith Miller:

1. She can lie and no one will be able to tell Her previous career in helping to foment the Iraq war based on lies shows she’s quite willing to do ANYTHING promote her career.

2. The specific agreement between the legal teams of Miller and Fitzgerald allows Fitzgerald to only see an EDITED COPY of Miller’s notes on the talk with Libby and – very important – prevents him from asking about WHO ELSE might have told her about Plame.

Second, I strongly suspect it was not Libby but BOLTON who was the leaker who spoke to Miller. Not only did he visit her in jail, but he was at the epicenter of the neocon group who blocked REAL intelligence on Iraq WMDs and substituted LIES to push the Iraq War. Seymour Hersh made that clear in his important “Stovepipe” article back in 2003. Remember that the most important aftermath of the Plame leak wasn’t the outing of Plame herself but the DESTRUCTION OF THE ENTIRE LONG-ESTABLISHED GROUP OF EXPERTS GATHERING REAL INTELLIGENCE ON MIDEAST WMDs. Bolton had a powerful motivation to do exactly that. He is insanely vengeful and can surely be imagined demanding that Wilson be punished, but more important, he would want the destruction of the conduits of information that contradicted the Administration’s lies on Iraqi WMDs.

Finally, Marie26 has come up with a plausible scenario that needs to be considered:

BOLTON told MILLER, and then MILLER told ROVE.

Remember how Rove claimed that he heard about the Plame leak from a reporter but couldn’t remember which reporter it was? (But it was not Novak.) What if the reporter in question was MILLER, who had been told by BOLTON? This would fit everything we know and would explain Bolton’s visit to Miller in jail. Rove would “forget” this because he would be protecting Bolton. And Bolton (possibly through his aides) would be a likely source for Miller’s printed lies in the leadup to the Iraq War.

Please come read more about the bases for these ideas and join the discussion:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4932994
thread title: Here are two reasons why I believe JUDITH MILLER WILL NOT GIVE THE TRUTH:

[Bumblebee]

197. if he is worth his salt

he must know something already, otherwise he would have not agreed to natrrowing the scope. After all, he had all the tools to put the pressure on her.

[Caretha]

209. Lying to a Grand Jury is not a good idea

If you thought refusing to testify in front of this Grand Jury was a "walk in the park", think again.

All of this is spin by Miller, The Times and her lawyers. More than likely J. Miller was advised by her lawyers that the special prosecutor, Fitzpatrick had informed them that the Grand Jury would be handing down indictments within the next 2 to 4 weeks and that if Miller did not testify by that time, they would also hand down an indictment for Miller charging her with obstruction of justice. If they could charge her with "Obstruction" then they damn well have the goods on all of them.

A good attorney, and Fitzpatrick is one, already knows the answers to the questions before he asks them. Don't forget that the job of the prosecutor and a Grand Jury is to not only make decisions on whether a crime or crimes have been committed, it is also to investigate those crimes, and it doesn't just mean gathering testimony from a small group of individuals related to those crimes. They have certainly subpoenaed mountains of documents and heard testimony from a multitude of sources who have not made the news.

Miller doesn't dare lie in front of a Grand Jury, and especially this one. Hence, the negotiation between J Miller's attorneys and the prosecutor Fitzpatrick on the scope and confines of the questions that will be asked.

The only information that has come out of this investigation by the Grand Jury, has been small bits and pieces from a few who have testified. Miller and her attorneys do not know what others have testified to, making it impossible for Miller to lie and risk perjuring herself. That too is a crime, and one I doubt Miller is willing to go to jail for.

[teryang]

202. Cheney-Libby-Miller-Plame, Cheney-Libby-Miller-David Kelly...

...murdered.

Miller also just happened to publish a book about biological warfare coincident with the 911 related Anthrax attack on democratic congressional leaders.

[katinmn]

205. Miller is a despicable cheap whore parading as a journalist

And I hope she finds her ass back in jail again soon.

This final paragraph in an ABC News story says it more diplomatically:

"Starting in 2002, her stories about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq helped bolster the Bush administration's case for toppling Saddam Hussein. The failure to find the weapons prompted heavy criticism of Miller and the Times as well as of the Bush administration."

http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=1172220&page=3

[Bumblebee]

210. this is an AP story. ABC just has it on its page.

[katinmn]

211. True.

[The Stranger]

212. Here's to hoping still that Judith Miller fries somehow.

[gristy]

213. NYT reporter breaks silence in CIA probe case (Libby named!)

www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/30/AR2005093000488.html

This, after the WH had claimed for two years that neither Cheney nor Libby were involved..

Miller agreed to break her silence and testify after receiving what she described as a voluntary and personal waiver of confidentiality from her source, identified as Vice President Dick Cheney's chief of staff, Lewis Libby.

Lawyers close to the case said Miller's testimony appeared to clear the way for prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald to wrap up his 2-year-old inquiry into who in the Bush administration leaked CIA operative Valerie Plame's identity and whether any laws were violated.

With Miller's testimony, lawyers said, Fitzgerald could move quickly to bring indictments in the case. Or he may conclude that no crime was committed and end his investigation and possibly issue a report on his findings.

[zonkra]

215. Okay

so Scooter takes the fall, just like Michael Brown took the fall, Judy Miller takes the fall for the media whores at the NY Times, and all three end up sharing a suite of offices as well paid "consultants" at Halliburton. Everybody's happy and RepubliKlan inbreeding experiments continue as usual, and if anything happens, its pardons all around when W exits the WH, just like Daddy did. Scot free. It's the family tradition. Screw us peasants in steerage, its only the prominent on the promenade that matter here on the good ship Titanic. So, let's rearrange a few deck chairs and have a stiff brandy. We are on the finest vessel of the Halliburton line, with the finest Enron china! We are unsinkable, they say!

[symbolman]

216. Miller is in a world of hurt

remember she said she feared for her life when she went into the slammer.. Bolton and his pal Fietz (who was double dealing with both the CIA and with the Bolton's rogue intel unit) are ones that I'm pretty sure leaked to Miller, Libby was just following orders from Cheney..

This is going to get really stinky and complicated, that's why I spent the last month finishing up my Rove's War double set DVD.. it's 2 and a half hours of total info, a chronology, side trips such as the meeting in Rome with Leeden, Karl Rove’s foreign policy advisor and organizer of the meeting..

Nicolo Pollari, head of the the Italian equivalent of the CIA, the SISMI

Italy’s Minister of Defense, Antonio Martino (no relation apparently to the spy Rocco Martino), Pollari’s boss

Larry Franklin, an American who presently is being prosecuted in the US for giving classified information to an Israeli front group, AIPC (American Israel Public Affairs Committee) -- which some would call "spying," even though he has not been charged with espionage

Harold Rhode: member of Dick Cheney’s Office of Special Plans, protege of Ledeen, go-between with Iraqi exile and CIA asset (at the time) Ahmed Chalabi.

Ledeen already had a longstanding friendship with Francesco Pazienza, an Italian felon and forger...

Plus lots of soundbites from Comedy Central's daily show, fun graphics, ex CIA statements, Hearings, Downing Street Minutes Hearing which I filmed, lots of Wilson laying it all out - - and I wrote and performed a song for the end called "Secret Agent Plame" (like the old song "Secret Agent Man") for fun..

I plan to have it done over the weekend and start shipping - for all those who donated, I apologise for the delay, but I wanted to get it ALL in the film, and also have been to the emergency room twice this month, been really sick, but getting better..

especially with all this GREAT news!

Should be finished by over the weekend, then I'll fill the donations I received already and ask Skinner if I can fund raise (yeah, Takebackthemedia.com is running on fumes) here with my Rove's War Epic double DVD. It's good solid MEAT for political junkies that cuts through the confusion and fills in areas you never dreamed of, with no tin foil :)

[katinmn]

227. Wow! I can't wait! Sounds like pure joy to me.

Sorry you've had some health problems, symbolman. Hope that is all in the past now.

Maybe you need to take it easy for a while after this project. :yourock:

[onehandle]

219. This means the lawyers have figured out how to get Rove free.

Scooter just fell on his sword as part of the plan to save General Rove.

[dennis00]

222. She won't say dick...

Re: post 81 "She won't say dick..." Finish that line with Cheney. She won't say dick Cheney. If I ,grudgingly, after four months, offer my dog a bone, he won't know I'm hiding a steak. Who is Miller really protecting?:spank:

[lakercub]

225. I'm having a tough time with this

I see a lot of posts on this thread predicting this is another nail in the coffin for the Bush criminals. Others aren't so sure. I'm in the second camp.

Everything about this story is weird. Did Libby really release her to speak a year ago? If so, why did she go to jail? Is Libby lying (probably)? Is Miller (probably)? For what purpose?

Also, I'm skeptical Miller will do us any favors because of her reporting leading up to the war. She absolutely carried the administration's water for them. She was a huge Chalabi fan if I remember right. I personally put some of what happened in this war on her. She sacrificed all her journalistic integrity before the war, and I don't see why she'd act with integrity now.

There is a lot going on with Roberts, another vacancy, Frist, Delay, and Bush's abysmal ratings. That's why the timing of this worries me. Something stinks here. If she really was getting out ready to sing like a canary against the administration, I would be euphoric. But I've gotten my hopes up too many times in the last 4 years and I won't be fooled again. Plus, whenever there are strange coincidences with this administration, the stink of under-reported scandal soon follows. They are the masters of timing. They have made an art of burying newsworthy scandals under other political minutiae, and I sort of see that happening here. I hope Miller nails them and they all end up in jail, but I'm not betting on it.

[jazzjunkysue]

226. Yeah, I hear you, but we got Delay and Frist is twisting in the wind

They don't own the judges, most of whom got their seats before the B** Cleptocracy.

What matters more than actual days behind bars is how smelly the GOP has become and how well dems do in the next 2 elections.

Imagine if your dems had all this filth all over them? How would you feel about your party right about now?

The smoke is almost worth more than the fire.

This has been a very good week. What have they got to pull them out of this nosedive? Terra doesn't work like it used to.

[shavedape]

229. if they keep falling in the polls we might lose another coupla towers!

i put nothing past them.

[jazzjunkysue]

232. Nor should you. MIHOP, all the way, baby.

[lakercub]

230. I agree with you

that the republicans are reeling right now...and I'm loving it. I'm just not looking for this Miller thing to help us.

[jazzjunkysue]

233. Then why did Fitz need her so badly? Why did the judge jail her?

That draws so much attention to the whole gang, that you don't do that unless you really have to.

We all know the leak was Libby: But her sworn testimony is needed to write the indictments...You can't write indictments on "We all know that...." You need sworn testimony, and I think that's what Fitz got.

Libby's the sacrificial lamb.

[Voltaire99]

228. You're right: she's a weasel

And worse than a weasel, as her hyperbole for the Bush administration helped lead the chant for war.

There's a reason over 70% of the American public salivated over invading Iraq. And little Judy Miller--chief cheerleader and willing dupe for the New York Times--is a significant part thereof.

[mvd]

231. Let's hope that..

she wants to give her profession some honor, but I'm not so sure.

[jazzjunkysue]

234. That's total bull. She's a lying shill whore, and always will be. She

was so afraid of the B*** crime family, she hid in prison. For some reason, she feels safer, now. We'll find out why in the next weeks.

On edit, I wouldn't be surprised if what they told her is that they've finally found enough incriminating evidence to hang Libby, and so they told her they won't need to use her as a scapegoat. Someone decided who to finger, and so she could sing.

[mvd]

235. No need to jump on me

I said that I don't trust her. But I believe the Repuke ship is going down, so who knows..