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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 01:48 PM
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Two More Explosions in Central Baghdad
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=564&ncid=716&e=11&u=/nm/20031026/ts_nm/iraq_explosions_dc

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - At least two explosions detonated Sunday evening in an area of Baghdad that includes the headquarters of Iraq's U.S.-led administration, the U.S. military said.

A military spokesman said the explosions had gone off in the capital's Green Zone, which also includes the Rashid hotel. The hotel came under rocket attack earlier in the day.

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thinkahead Donating Member (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 01:51 PM
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1. This is becoming sad
"Nothing to see here" "move along"
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 01:51 PM
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2. Busy little beavers!
This is pissing all over the happy news the Bush people want on TV.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 10:38 AM
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45. Aren't wheaties tasty with pee?
.....then again junior's tongue has not one taste bud. His tongue is like the snake.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 01:51 PM
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3. FAUX says...
...that the advent of Ramadan last night may bring increased "mischief"
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 01:55 PM
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5. Is the cognitive motivation for that statement memories of Tet (sp?)
Those of us around for the fireworks remember the Tet offensive and all the anxiety that each new lunar year brought.

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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 02:04 PM
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7. Mischief?
Interesting choice of words.

Mischief is spray painting grafitti.
Mischief is egging a building.
Mischief is a pie in the face.

How much long can Faux keep up this charade? THINGS ARE NOT GOING WELL!

MzPip
:dem:
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 02:08 PM
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8. "The bigger the bang...
the more meat on the trees."
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Noordam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 02:32 PM
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21. Mischief does not cause Fucking Body Bags
Fox...............grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr............
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 04:21 PM
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31. yes, those little savages...like children are they
creating nothing but "mischief". I wish Foxnews would get swallowed by the Earth...
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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 01:53 PM
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4. I'm listening to WLS in Chicago and some guy is talking about
how good things are in Iraq. The host interjects with the news of two more explosions in Baghdad. As I often say to my students...........

"What part of "no" don't you understand?"
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 01:56 PM
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6. looks like Wolfie-witch has
skedaddled -

old saying "if you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen"
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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 02:08 PM
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9. Or, Mr Wolfowitz, "if you can't stand the heat,
why did you set the kitchen on fire?"
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frank frankly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 01:00 AM
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42. hahaha
perfect, Minstrel Boy!!!



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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 02:12 PM
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10. MSNBC just quoted Al-Jazeera as saying there has been a third explosion
Strangely, right after saying this, MSNBC cut away to a rerun of Hardball.
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shockingelk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 02:13 PM
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11. must be celebratory gunfire
Curfew being lifted and all.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 02:15 PM
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12. MSNBC showing rerun of Hardball, while CNN is showing rerun of Concorde
Nothing to see here! Keep moving!
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 02:19 PM
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14. good to know we have a 24 hour a day
deflection of the news :mad:
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 02:19 PM
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13. More info from ABC News (a leadership strike?)
Late Sunday, two explosions were heard in the coalition-controlled zone that includes the hotel, but the location had not been determined, the U.S. military said.

The blasts, which could be heard across the Tigris River in the center of the city, occurred after 9 p.m. The area, known as the "green zone," also includes the coalition headquarters at one of Saddam Hussein's palaces and the convention center, which includes the military's press office.

http://abcnews.go.com/wire/World/ap20031026_828.html
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thinkahead Donating Member (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 02:23 PM
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15. well if they hit the press office
it could explain why the story is slow to get out.
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 11:24 PM
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39. tee hee
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 02:23 PM
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16. FAUX says...
....that the Coalition says the location of the explosions can't be determined.

Did they send reporters out of the Green Zone?
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jenk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 02:26 PM
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18. they know damn well where it is
spins away.....

misinformation campaign.
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Eddie Current Donating Member (401 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 02:56 PM
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23. red alert in the green zone
attention. attention.
red alert in the green zone.
terror level orange.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 02:26 PM
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17. "Something happened in Baghdad today.
No further details have been reported."
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thinkahead Donating Member (247 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 02:31 PM
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19. More: Assailant fired RPG at US convoy next to Hotel
http://www.sunherald.com/mld/sunherald/news/breaking_news/7110369.htm

However, an Iraqi policeman, speaking on condition of anonymity, said that an assailant fired a rocket propelled grenade at a U.S. convoy next to al-Mansour Hotel, located about a mile northeast of the Al Rasheed. He said there were no casualties.

Immediately after the attack, two U.S. armored personnel carriers and a number of Humvees cordoned the area off and prevented journalists from approaching.

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hail to the thief Donating Member (44 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 02:32 PM
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20. Welcome to StalinTV, The RIGHT news
Edited on Sun Oct-26-03 02:34 PM by hail to the thief
This is just incredibly frustrating, where the hell are the so called media? MSNBC is showing Hardball reruns and CNN is showing People in the news, nothing to see here. They just completely gloss over it hoping the hypnotized sheep don't notice that the situation is out of control in Iraq.

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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 03:23 PM
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26. Faux is the only even giving any resemblance of news
which is better than the reruns MSNBC and CNN are showing. COMCAST won't even carry CNN International.
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fizzana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 02:43 PM
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22. Life in the Green Zone
From Newsweek's cover story. This is the only way they can keep the casualty rates to a tolerable level. Did all the Iraqi's who got to hug Wolfowitz have to pass through this security check or were they waiters from the hotel after he gave them a nice tip?

The whole article is worth reading.

http://msnbc.com/news/985306.asp

What’s life like for an American businessman or contractor in Iraq? If you’re from Halliburton’s Kellogg Brown & Root, you’re installed in the prized Green Zone, Baghdad’s Beverly Hills. That’s the four-square-mile patch of downtown where the CPA is headquartered under heavy U.S. military guard. Bechtel is there as well, holed up in Uday Hussein’s former villa on the Tigris. But smaller companies or those that arrived too late to scoop up prime real estate—that’s wherever the U.S. military is—are dug into one of the many hotels around town under heavy guard. You’ll know you’re approaching one when you see tall concrete barriers, known as blast walls, and chicanes, which are obstacle courses designed to create traffic jams.

If you’re berthed in either the Palestine or the Sheraton hotels, the only ones guarded by American troops 24/7, you’ll have to make a two-mile detour through extremely heavy traffic to get around the blocked-off streets to the lone access point. First your car will pass through a series of concrete barriers guaranteed to make sure you crawl at five miles an hour. Then you’ll see the now closed riverside boulevard, Abu Nawass Street, and you’ll be staring down the cannon of an M1A1 Abrams tank leveled at chest height. From there, no matter how important you are, you’ll walk with your bags to the first American checkpoint. It’s next to the sidewalk, where there’s a double row of concrete blast walls and huge wire-meshed sandbags; they form a sort of tunnel without a roof, 100 yards long, with machine guns covering it. There you’ll be searched under the supervision of American soldiers, who are so tired of the drill they often deputize street kids to pat you down, while an Iraqi policeman looks in your bag. Your mobile phones will be disassembled, other electronics taken apart, bags opened on the ground. At the end of this process you’ll find yourself in one of these two former government-run hotels, with grim and dirty rooms, and dangerously bad food, and few amenities other than the tanks outside.

After checking in, your first stop should be the U.S. Consulate at the Iraqi Convention Center, just inside the Green Zone. To enter, you have to walk down a narrow pathway for about 100 yards between two double rolls of concertina wire, so close together you have to be careful not to snag your safari shirt. This is designed to keep Iraqis in a straight line, and possibly also to prevent a frontal assault on the first American Army position. Then you’ll pass through three Army posts and be searched twice. If you’re meeting with anyone important inside, you’ll be searched yet again and have your belongings sniffed by dogs.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 03:10 PM
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24. MSNBC reporter just said 4-6 Explosions!
Just heard at 3:00PM! He said the military confims nada! Suprise...:eyes:
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hail to the thief Donating Member (44 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 03:16 PM
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25. Something's fishy
These explosions occurred over an hour ago and still nada? Something don't seem right, I also saw the reporter on MSNBC say 4-6 explosions, and the military ..... ..... nothing!
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 03:31 PM
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27. New details in this LBN thread...
US Shocked at Baghdad Hotel Attack

US Secretary of State Colin Powell has admitted that the US did not expect that American forces would face such intense and sustained attacks in Iraq.
Mr Powell was speaking after rockets hit the Rashid hotel, used by US officials and one of the most heavily guarded sites in Iraq's capital.

US officials say they are facing increasingly sophisticated attacks.

Late on Sunday, just hours after Mr Powell's comments, two blasts detonated near the US-led coalition's HQ.

A military spokesman said the explosions had gone off in the capital's Green Zone, which also includes the Rashid hotel.
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Eddie Current Donating Member (401 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 03:32 PM
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28. more news
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 04:08 PM
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29. from the article....
Thanks Eddie!

<snip>However, an Iraqi policeman, speaking on condition of anonymity, said that an assailant fired a rocket propelled grenade at a U.S. convoy next to al-Mansour Hotel, located about a mile northeast of the Al Rasheed. He said there were no casualties.

Immediately after the attack, two U.S. armored personnel carriers and a number of Humvees cordoned the area off and prevented journalists from approaching.

....can't have those journalists reporting what is Really happening!

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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 04:19 PM
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30. Still more information...
from Aljazeera....http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/518F98E0-E217-46E1-8254-7BA181309B47.htm

The US must really be putting the hammer down on reporting now....

<snip>
A total of 29 rockets were fired on Sunday morning at al-Rashid hotel, which lies within the supposedly secure compound housing occupation administrative offices in Baghdad.

The strike was the second on the occupation force's power base since US President George Bush declared an end to major combat operations on 1 May.

“One US soldier was killed. Seven US civilians were wounded, four military were injured, along with four foreign nationals,” a US military spokesperson said at a news conference

and this...<snip>
Increasing sophistication

Sixty-eight-millimetre (2.7 inch) calibre rockets are usually fired from helicopters and 85-millimetre (3.3 inch) rockets are normally fired surface-to-air, he said.

The attack, on the eve of the holy Muslim month of Ramadan, coincided with the first day without night curfew in the city since Baghdad fell to the Americans six months ago.

....there is also a picture of the trailer used.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 04:42 PM
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32. I found this interesting....
“One US soldier was killed. Seven US civilians were wounded, four military were injured, along with four foreign nationals,” a US military spokesperson said at a news conference"

Who are the 4 foreign nationals?

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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 04:47 PM
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34. they have been very secretive about these four from the start....
initially refering to the as "civilian CPA people" or some such crap...curiouser and curiouser....
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agincourt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 04:43 PM
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33. Let's see now,
why are they doing this? Oh I know, it's all dem dang protestors givin' aid and cumfert to the enemy. That's the ticket, if only we had more flags on our cars the eyerackeeees wouldn't attack us.
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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 05:21 PM
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35. MSGOP's web headline is misleading... on purpose! 'Badhdad Attacks'
As most of you know, many people don't read a story and only glance the headlines. I almost didn't click on the story either because I thought it was the previous story I read about hitting the hotel. Not until you click on the story does the link bring you to a story which says, 'Two new explosions'. Which is also not clear.

I'm telling you guys many many people don't read the anything but the heeadlines. I used to be one of them, for 20 years. I would guess at least 50% of the population can be manipulated by immoral editorial headline wording.

RICO the Whores!

http://msnbc.com/news/default.asp?0ct=-34o
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guajira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 07:54 PM
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36. Network Evening News (I think NBC) Mentioned Explosions, but said
they haven't been given any info by US.

They also showed some video of Hotel attack, which included someone yelling - "get out! We don't need any press here!!"

Looks like media is not welcome in Iraq!
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T Bone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 11:06 PM
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37. Npr report late this afternoon
Said two huge explosions 16 hours after the RPG attack on the hotel. At that time around 5 pm they were saying the location of the 2 blasts were not available. Semmed fishy to me at the time that no one can say exactly WHERE the blasts were.

Do you think they got Wolfie? He sure seemed to be the individual drawing the fire at the hotel.

I am puttin g this info in as a kick too, since I saw no previous reports from NPR listeners. This sure is odd that 6 hours after hearing of the explosions we have not heard anything about WHERE they were exactly, oany casualty info.
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T Bone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 11:20 PM
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38. MSNBC has some coverage online
but still not much as to the actual location of the blasts occuring 15 hours after the RPG attack on the hotel. They are also counting 4-6 blasts 15 hours after the hotel incicent.

http://www.msnbc.com/news/870749.asp?0cv=CB10

some quotes from the article:

1. An Al Rasheed maintenance worker, he was asked whether he now feared staying in his house, situated between the firing point and the hotel. "Every place in Baghdad is dangerous now that the Americans are here," he said.

2. "There is no guarantee we can protect against this kind of thing unless we have soldiers on every block," said Lt. Brian Dowd of Nanuet, N.Y., a 1st Armored Division reconnaissance officer at the scene.



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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-03 11:25 PM
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40. Why the news clamp down?
The reporters know what is going on, but are silent. Why?
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 12:34 AM
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41. Al Jazeera - New Blasts Near Baghdad Hotel....details
New blasts near Baghdad hotel

Monday 27 October 2003, 3:45 Makka Time, 0:45 GMT


Trailer used for first attack was boobytrapped, US officials say


Two fresh explosions rocked the main US-led occupation compound in Baghdad, hours after a rocket attack on a hotel hosting the US deputy defence secretary.


A total of 29 rockets were fired on Sunday morning at al-Rashid hotel, which lies within the supposedly secure compound housing occupation administrative offices in Baghdad.

The strike was the second on the occupation force's power base since US President George Bush declared an end to major combat operations on 1 May.

“One US soldier was killed. Seven US civilians were wounded, four military were injured, along with four foreign nationals,” a US military spokesperson said at a news conference.

Though the attack was not specifically aimed at Deputy Defence Secretary Paul Wolfowitz, it had been prepared for “a couple of months,” a senior US officer told AFP, suggesting resistance attacks are becoming increasingly sophisticated.

Then, late on Sunday evening, two more explosions hit the US-led force's main compound in Baghdad, Aljazeera's correspondent said. Local residents said Katyusha rockets had been fired from the southern suburb of al-Dura....>> MORE

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/518F98E0-E217-46E1-8254-7BA181309B47.htm


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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 01:51 AM
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43. How could they possibly know that the attack had been planned
for a couple of months? Is this the same intel network that tells them how much the Iraqi's would be grateful to be liberated by the US?

Congratulations George...I think you have managing to lose a war that you unilaterally declared. And it is solely your total incompetence which has created this situation. The world begged you not to start a pre-emptive war and you did anyway. Your post-war focus was contracts for your buds instead of fixing the infrastructure that you broke.

You will go down as the most shameful loser that was ever selected President.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 08:51 AM
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44. October 26th FIRST day of Ramadan
As someone (US military I think) was quoted a few weeks ago ~"If things don't settle down before the 26th there could very well be a whole lot of trouble" (loose quote)
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