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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 09:42 AM
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Bush: Iraq Attacks Signs of Desperation
7 minutes ago
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/iraq_us_military

WASHINGTON - President Bush (news - web sites) said Monday that U.S. progress in Iraq (news - web sites) is making insurgents more "desperate" and spurring attacks such as the bombings at the international Red Cross headquarters and four police stations across Baghdad that killed dozens of people.


"The more progress we make on the ground, the more free the Iraqis become, the more electricity that's available, the more jobs are available, the more kids that are going to school, the more desperate these killers become," Bush told reporters at the White House.


He said those who are continuing to engage in violence "can't stand the thought of a free society. They hate freedom. They love terror. They love to try to create fear and chaos."

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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 09:44 AM
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1. Besides, we have always been at war with Eurasia!
Things are NOT going badly so stop saying that!! :-)

Julie
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MUAD_DIB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 11:25 AM
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24. No, JNelson6563, we have always been at war with

East Asia... always...


If these attacks are signs of desperation then I would hate to see signs of confidence and resolve.
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 02:51 PM
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44. Doubleplus good duck-talk, Muad_Dib
Break out some Victory Gin.
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bif Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 09:44 AM
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2. Sure George
They hate freedom? They hate us. Get it? Is this guy totally clueless?
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zonmoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 08:14 PM
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60. "Sure George"
Is he really clueless or is he setting us up for the destruction of the free press and all other freedoms.
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 09:48 AM
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3. who's desperate?
sounds like monkeyboy is :crazy:
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 09:52 AM
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4. bremer looks happy to be in DC again !....likely he won't go back
anytime soon...

bush* sits there 'spinning' the beginning of the Iraq "TET Offensive" with more of his "the Iraqis are happy, I'm happy, the American people are happy...and paul bremer is REALLY happy that he isn't in Iraq"

the whole cabal are WAR CRIMINALS...take them all to the Haig...

bush* said "bring 'em on", we say "bring OUR troops home"...
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 10:23 AM
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11. History should record the attack in Iraq as
The RAMADAN offensive--for the sole purpose of exposing Bush's actions towards Muslims, as opposed to his rhetoric. BTA, Bush's actions never are consistent with his words!
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dw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 12:26 PM
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35. You committed a MAJOR typo...
You don't really mean to send them all to "the Haig". That's where they got many of their stupid "I'm in charge!" ideas.

You mean "the Hague", where war criminals should be sent (including "the Haig") to reap their just rewards.
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fizzana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 09:55 AM
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5. The new mantra seems to be
The more they attack us the more successful we are so casualties are a good thing.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 09:58 AM
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8. October 26th FIRST day of Ramadan
:scared:
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 10:27 AM
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12. exactly. we should be prepared to sacrifice every man, woman, and child
Edited on Mon Oct-27-03 10:29 AM by truthisfreedom
on this glorious path to success in Iraq.
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eablair3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 12:04 PM
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32. "The more they attack the more successful we are so casualties are good"
very well put

I get it now. The increased attacks are a "good" sign. the higher the casualties, the better Bush thinks he's doing.

what an idiot
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 01:16 PM
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39. this follows the one trick pony
administration - cut down trees- saves the forests; kill the endangered species 2 save them; more attacks means pre-emptive policy good. Once U know the trick the rest falls N2 place.
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Raenelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 12:14 PM
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34. and unemployment is a sign of recovery, pollution of environmental
nurturing, the Patriot Act of expansion of individual rights, Diebold a guarantee of every vote being correctly counted, Chimpy's popularity a sign of rising intellectualism and cosmopolitanism, anti-war protests a sign of emerging support for the war, press whoredom a sign of a vigorous and healthy 4th estate, world-wide antipathy--well, that's just jealousy.
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 09:57 AM
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6.  disgusting liar.
He said those who are continuing to engage in violence "can't stand the thought of a free society. They hate freedom. They love terror. They love to try to create fear and chaos."

Sounds like he is talking about himself--this "freedom--hating freedom loving terror mantra is real old already--mentioning terror in connection with these people who are not terrorists, but the resistance to George's imperialistic invasion and seizing of their country and stealing their lucrative resources--that is what they are saying ,not terrorists as he is suggesting to the American people --Bush loves to make these connections that turn into memes inside the compliant, malleable sheeple heads that believe what he says. He lies--he uses sleeze to sway people--it is getting old to use this rhetoric -- freedom for the Iraqis means the US getting out of their country, giving them back their country and their resources and their sovreignty

With rhetoric like that, lies upon lies upon spurious rhetorical connections, it is not surprising that people approve of the pre-emptive war in the nubers they do. They see the Iraqi still as the enemy--Bush has told them that they are ungrateful terrorists--see?
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eablair3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 11:59 AM
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29. "freedom"
"George's imperialistic invasion and seizing of their country and stealing their lucrative resources"

Oh, but that is King George's definition of "freedom"
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 09:58 AM
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7. "They hate freedom. They love terror."
Who are "they?" I suggest junior to look into a mirror.

.....and .....and the big bad buggy man is none other than Tom DeLay.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 10:00 AM
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9. To Marianne and you -that is exactly what I thought when I read this
Fates freedom? "There ought to be limits to freedom" Who said THAT?

This is more direct reversal of the facts.
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SpongeBob Donating Member (105 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 10:12 AM
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10. Robbedvoter: bush's comments, signs of desperation
They sound lamer every day!
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 10:27 AM
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13. Bush is exactly right.
The Ramadan offensive has begun, and Rove is becoming increasingly desperate.
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yelladawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 11:53 AM
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28. reminds me of Tet, 1968
reminds me of Tet, 1968.
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 02:52 PM
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45. The Ramadan offensive
Nice.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 10:28 AM
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14. as opposed to shock and awe, which is a good thing.
seems like the ground fight was just a little delayed in Iraq.
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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 10:33 AM
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15. Oh, the irony!
These recent attacks are such elegant proof that the US has created the very situation that it seeks to eradicate in the so-called "war on terror." As with the people who blew up the WTC, the US is directly responsible for the terror attacks now happening in Iraq.

It couldn't BE more obvious in Iraq: none of this would be happening if we hadn't invaded that country. It's all the same thing: the WTC would still be standing if we hadn't been treating the whole Muslim world like shit for generations. And Bush has the nerve to imply some equation between al Quaeda and the people blowing stuff up in Iraq...well, yes, there is an equation: it's our fault, on all sides.
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Kitsune Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 10:38 AM
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16. Does he hear himself when he talks?
A sign of desperation? What, was the Tet Offensive a sign of desperation too? Jesus...

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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 10:52 AM
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21. Yah, the Tet offensive...
that's where we broke the back of the North Vietnamese Army, right?
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Palacsinta Donating Member (929 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 10:40 AM
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17. That's a relief!!!
I was worried that the explosions were a bad thing.......I always assumed that death, destruction, violence etc. were negatives. I'm so happy to learn that they are not. I'm sure the families of the soldiers and the civilians killed will be relieved, too. And it's all our doing.....another plus! We've created DESPERATE terrorists...much better than the ordinary kind.
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Mr. Jinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 10:41 AM
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18. Who supplies his rose-colored glasses?
They're better than anything he ever used to distort reality!
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 10:46 AM
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19. same bullsht
i heard during nam..but little fly boy wouldn`t know ,he was hiding somewhere in a drug induced haze. then he woke up in college..wow dude,i don`t remember getting here....
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 10:50 AM
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20. georgie is delusional.
Just like his mother.
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ErasureAcer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 10:53 AM
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22. 5-6 bomb attacks isn't desperation
it is dominance.

30+ people dead many more injured...Bush is stupid.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 11:39 AM
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26. It's somewhere between desperation
and Bring 'Em On!
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ErasureAcer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 12:00 PM
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30. oh come on now, it is dominance
6 bombs in one day...a couple went off at the same time...40 or so dead...a handful of americans, lots of iraqi police...

the Iraqi freedom fighters won this day. They should be able to win tomorrow as well and the next day and the next day...

just bring the troops home now.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 03:40 PM
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49. Well, I know I'm usually feeling desperate
When I pull off a string of unmitigated successes with nary a reprisal or repercussion. Maybe President Stupidhead is trying to lull them into a false sense of security. And maybe the Pope isn't Catholic.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 10:54 AM
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23. Now we know where Rush's Oxycontin supply is going. (nt)
.
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 11:33 AM
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25. ironic......those were my thoughts about 'Murika during his inaugeration..
.....since more progress was made in this country...the more free we become...the more jobs that are available...the more kids goin' to school...the more desperate these killers*BushCo.* have become...*THEY* HATE FREEDOM..*THEY* LOVE TERROR....*THEY* LOVE TO FEAR AND CHAOS....he's just repeated my EXACT thoughts about him and his bunch of demons the very day he took over the WH.....OH THE IRONY... :cry:
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birdman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 11:48 AM
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27. All these people are getting killed because my policies are so successful
This man is unspeakably stupid.

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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 12:03 PM
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31. How long before Bush's sanity is openly questioned?
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 12:07 PM
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33. The more desparate the killers become
Edited on Mon Oct-27-03 12:10 PM by rocknation
the more incompetent you end up looking because because you said the combat part is over. The problem is that you're trying to rebuild a country and fight a guerilla war at the same time. Besides, if the insurgents hated freedom, they'd be blowing up all the nice things you've rebuilt, wouldn't they?


rocknation



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jamesinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 04:15 PM
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52. Well they do sometimes
"Besides, if the insurgents hated freedom, they'd be blowing up all the nice things you've rebuilt, wouldn't they?"

They do blow up the oil pipes lines on occasion. But that is understandable, those are symbols of why we went into Iraq, for the oil. They are also trying to send it to Isreal thru the one pipeline. Outside of that they do not blow up the nice things.
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number six Donating Member (244 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 12:49 PM
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36. This just in...
Black is White! Up is down!
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 12:51 PM
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37. MAP of the DESPERATION
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Sideways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 12:59 PM
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38. Yep Yeah Right Iraqis Are Killing Because Electricity Is Available
ShitFire I gotta kill somebody because the lights are on.

:wtf: does "the more free" mean?
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 01:38 PM
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40. Bush* had to have his war...
...and now he has it and can't deal with it.

- There is no 'coalition' and almost every country on this planet and millions of protestors warned against this invasion and occupation. Yet...Bush* is still blaming HIS failures on phantom terrorists.
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Sideways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 01:47 PM
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42. Malignant Narcissist With Greed As His Supply
It doesn't get much uglier than this. Bush* is a cancerous little fuckwittage. Beneath the belly of a snake. Narcissists just can't take the heat. Fucking cowards and sniveling shit dripping nappies every last one of them.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 01:45 PM
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41. What's REALLY "desperate" is Dubya's increasingly more shrill tone.
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 01:51 PM
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43. Nothing to see here. Move along.
Ah crap!
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 02:53 PM
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46. Watch Bremer in this press conference
He is scared. I expect he'll be retiring to spend more time with his family soon.
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 02:57 PM
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47. What makes me yell at the TV: calling police stations "soft targets"
They should be among the hardest targets in Iraq, next to the US fortifications.
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jokerman93 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 03:19 PM
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48. So the American people
have become so binary and uncritical in their thinking that this content-free statement actually makes some kind of sense to them:

He said those who...engage in violence "can't stand the thought of a free society. They hate freedom. They love terror. They love to try to create fear and chaos."

Lately I feel like half my country is living in an alternate universe...
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 03:40 PM
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50. Hey, Chimpy! Here's a headline you weren't expecting.
The New York Times: Series of Suicide Bombings Plunge Iraqi Capital Into Chaos

The developments over the last two days are horrific. We have to do absolutely everything we can to stand between this administration and four more years of power. When the New York Times is referring to an American-occupied capital as "chaotic," I really begin to worry about what's coming in retaliation...
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 03:51 PM
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51. Oh that? That's just the New york times the paper of record
Plus there was a survey done 35 years ago in which most of their reporters said they voted for Democrats mostly so that means that liberals love chaos and will spit in the troops faces when they come back...if they do and if the commie pinko can sneak onto the tarmac that even the NYT can't get reporters on.....

And anyway how do you know Jason Blair didn't write that?


Okay I'm done now.
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JohnOneillsMemory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 05:24 PM
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53. "I love free speech." Isn't that what he says when heckled?
Now that money is free speech in the US, violence is free speech overseas.
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Maeve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 05:26 PM
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54. No, that's what he said when hecklers were ejected!
Dubya doesn't mind dissent, as long as he doesn't have to hear/see it!
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 05:29 PM
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55. That's because he has never had to face up to anything
Typical of a faux bully (the worst kind) he doesn't say anything while they are there.
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 06:12 PM
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56. hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!! talk about the de-nile
.
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pinkpops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 07:16 PM
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57. They hate us because
We are better looking than they are
We have a better president
our cars are faster
we don't leave childs behind
Jesus likes us better
...
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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 07:36 PM
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58. Bush Desparation Argument a Sign of Desperation
I sure will people would not let this turn into an argument over whether Iraq is doing well or not, however. We can't forget that the key points. We went into this because of lies and hype, and we got nothing out of it. Things are worse than ever now. Thanks, Georgie.
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Aidoneus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 07:39 PM
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59. You know, that's a strange coincidence
I was thinking that Team Bush's attack on Iraq was a sign of desperation also. Funny how it works out.
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The_Gopher Donating Member (857 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 08:25 PM
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61. and Mike Tyson was just wearing down Lews by taking all those punches
what a jackass.
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jeanmarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 08:38 PM
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62. Big Brother's spin on this is pretty entertaining, sad, and horrifying
""The more progress we make on the ground, the more free the Eurasians become, the more electricity is available, the more jobs are available, the more kids that are going to school, the more desperate these killers become," Big Brother said.

"They can't stand the thought of a free society. They hate freedom. They love terror. They love to try to create fear and chaos," Big Brother said."


http://tinyurl.com/smbe

Click there for more. That's one helluva thing Berkeley has come up with.
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 10:33 PM
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63. Things Are Going Bad Because Things Are So Darned Good
Just the latest in Bush manipulation and double-think. You wonder how many Republican focus groups it took to come up with this unique approach.

Similar to the broken logic that has propelled the Bush administration before the American public, like letting lumber companies cut down trees to prevent forest fires, cutting short weapons inspections to we can invade Iraq and patiently search for WMD, waging perpetual war for perpetual peace, destroying Civil Rights to protect America's freedoms, this administration has come up with another inspired subterfuge.

Now, Bush is saying that things are really going quite well in Iraq, but the fact that things are now going bad is because they are going so well...and in turn that's why they're going bad...because they're going so well.... "It's them dad burned ferners who are desperate about how good everything is who are now causing it to go bad." "If it's bad folks, it's because it's so darned good!" Only a country brainwashed on Clear Channel and Fox could possibly fall for this diarrhea.
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osaMABUSh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 10:43 PM
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64. "Signs of Desperation" are signs of desperation.
Here's a sign of desperation: "Bush-Cheney '04"

Shrub's Orwellian double-speak has hit record levels. Do they really think anyone is buying this? Or are they just desperate?
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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 10:53 PM
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65. Direct variation. Nukes by Christmas?
Apparently, they are arguing direct variation which, by their logic will mean that the more successful "we" are, the more frequent and serious the attacks will become.

Perhaps they need to re-take an algebra course and create an indirect variation instead.
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homelandpunk Donating Member (787 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 11:10 PM
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66. It's a sign of a _committed_ opposition, you dumbfuck Smirk!!!!
Edited on Mon Oct-27-03 11:12 PM by homelandpunk
It is a sign of commitment. It is a sign they are freedom fighters. It is a sign we are fucked because of a warmongering little puke.
It is a sign this will get worse. And then worse after that. And then really bad. And then fresh hell BAD. That is what it is a sign of.
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screembloodymurder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-27-03 11:24 PM
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67. Yup
He's lost it.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 01:40 AM
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68. Is this waht is knonn as babbling?
The Evil Republicans are toast!
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