Jesse Jackson Jr. Throws His Support to Dean

[unfrigginreal]

By JODI WILGOREN

Published: October 28, 2003


CHICAGO, Oct. 27 — Representative Jesse L. Jackson Jr. said Monday that he would soon endorse Howard Dean for the Democratic presidential nomination, telling a mostly black audience on the South Side of Chicago that Dr. Dean had "the best chance to be the next president of the United States."

"I'm not wasting my time with any more non-straight-talking candidates," Mr. Jackson said in introducing Dr. Dean, a former governor of Vermont, to a group of about 150 people at Chicago State University.

"I've seen him stand up for health care," he said. "I've seen him stand up for students. I've seen him stand up for ordinary Americans. I'm asking you to stand up for Howard Dean."

The support of Mr. Jackson, the son of the Rev. Jesse Jackson, has been coveted by several presidential contenders in part because he carries some of the imprimatur of his father. He said after Dr. Dean's 45-minute question-and-answer session that he would "make it official in the next 7 to 14 days."

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http://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/28/politics/campaigns/28DEAN.html?ex=1067922000&en=891970444288e0cc&ei=5062&partner=GOOGLE

[bluestateguy]

1. Jesse Jr.

Very big endorsement.

[MissMarple]

6. Yes, that can be a good thing.

Also, Howard strikes a fair balance. I think he has a good message.

But, then, I think all of the Democratic candidates have good points to make. This debate process is counter productive. The worst thing they can do is to attack each other.

That is a bad thing.

[Voltaire99]

16. Not at all - the debate process is very healthy

Not only healthy for the Dems, who desperately need to figure out if they're going to be Republican Lite or a viable alternation. But also healthy for the nearly 50% of the nation that is being exposed weekly to searing criticism of Bush through the debates - criticism they will scarcely hear otherwise through mainstream media.

[Cha]

2. WooHoo! And I love Jesse Jackson Jr!

Jesse is a great speaker and now he's for Dean! I'm so Happy right now! :toast:

Jesse :yourock:

[tsipple]

3. Woo Hoo!

Way to go, Howard!

Even sweeter because JJJ is not a Daley stooge.

[alphafemale]

4. Well I wrote a letter to his dad asking same...

[PartyPooper]

5. Thank you, Congressman Jackson!

We love you!

:dem:

[KeepItReal]

7. Sweet! Thanks Rep. Jackson, Jr.!!

Go Gov. Dean!

Cheers, y'all

[silverweb]

8. Wonderful news!

I'm sure that official endorsement will be headlined here soon!

http://www.africanamericansfordean.com

:toast:

[huckleberry]

9. this has got to be newsguyatl's big news for dean!

Yay!! Go Dr. Dean!

[jsw_81]

10. Excellent

This is terrific news! Rep. Jackson's support will be really important in the crucial SC primary. I have a feeling that Dean is going to win the nomination and it won't even be close.

[Vikingking66]

11. booyah

JJJ is a rocking Congressman, and I hope future president.
It's great to have his support.

[dfong63]

12. yow!!!

[metisnation]

13. this holds water

president bush be prepared to be gang tackled by TEAM DEAN. HOORAH

GO GOV DEAN!!!

[Pastiche423]

14. Ah, sookie sookie now!

[meti57b]

15. very significant endorsement for Dean.

[GOPBasher]

17. That's huge.

I'm a Clark supporter, but I can still change my mind before the primary election. I'm leaning a bit more towards Dean lately, and an endorsement from one of my favorite congressmen certainly won't hurt.

[metisnation]

55. DEAN or CLARK

whoever makes it out of the primary I am voting for. Time to get the illegal BUSH junta out of office

[kwolf68]

18. Patiently

Waiting for that Dean guy who complained that politicians shouldn't endorse other politicians. I seem to be missing him on this thread.

Surprising endorsement nontheless...I didn't think Jackson would go in this direction.

[Corgigal]

19. I knew he would

because he was with Dean when he came to Charleston last month.
Here is the link to the visit. My hubby and I do this website.


http://www.charlestonfordean.com/howard_dean_visits.htm

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[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

21. Says the guy whose icon is Che Guevara

"WE Hate Jesse Jackson, a lot of people cant seem to understand that hes a polariser and stuck in the 60's"

HA!

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[IndianaGreen]

28. red herring

Rev. Jackson is not endorsing Dean. It is his son that is doing the endorsing.

[Padraig18]

63. Sorry to say...

... but as an IL Dem, nothing of this magnitude comes out of Jr.'s mouth without Sr.'s approval. This is HUGE, and you might as well chalk up IL in your list of prmary states Dean will almost certainly win.

[soleft]

36. You use newsmax as a resource?

very interesting...........

[Derrick Lang]

38. you arent the first one to point it out

i know about thier history and leanings, but since there really isnt a centerist news source i look at all sources except maybe sometimes townhall.com

[thebigidea]

47. might want to stick with "My Weekly Reader" or your "centerist" news

[thebigidea]

46. hooboy

1) This isn't about Jesse Jackson.

2) Anyone who uses "Shakedown Artist" re: Jackson is either a big O'Reilly fan, or an avid reader of books published by Regnery.

3) A Black Democratic Christian Socialist who reads Newsmax? Geez, why not throw in Scientologist, Devout Muslim, Zionist, etc. too?

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[Corgigal]

50. O' Really

came from the stupid show Inside Edition and got lucky. He was raised in one of the nicer areas of Long Island and his daddy wasn't middle class or poor by a long shot. If you listen to that jerk who did nothing for this country, including not serving in the military and going after ShowBiz people who were trying to get funds to the 9-11 victims families then I understand why you are posting what you're posting.
I have NO need to listen to some lucky , flavor of the month for any reason. I do my own research and make up my own mind. I also don't follow or love any one political figure either. I know why they do what they do and consider it par for the course. Illusion is not used only in magic acts.

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[thebigidea]

52. in other words, I'm right. Snicker. Thought so.

"newsmax while so awry u can see it a thousand miles away is nonetheless a news source however unbalanced it is."

Stunningly stupid statement, dear.

So you've read Mein Kampf, eh? Ok, sum it up for me.

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[thebigidea]

56. indeed it is, and it gave you away pretty quickly

The Che thing is a nice touch, though.

[Derrick Lang]

57. The whole che thing....

As i said im not exactly a commmie sympathisier but i do admire che slightly, maybe its just the revolutionary seal i mean im a malcolm x admirer too and that one was considered taboo throught high school and on till today. How many of us are truely dedicated to quitting our profession and leading a revolution, and also it was the first socialist revolution in america hes definately amngst the bravest men ever. I could go on about negatives and positives as i could every single leader ever.

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[thebigidea]

60. so Castro and Che = good, yet Jackson is bad?

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[soleft]

65. if you referenced mein kampf to back up your opinions,

yeah, I think that's a negative thing

[Derrick Lang]

67. No i referenced mein kampf..............

to show that even being black i can read everything including the turner diaries to gain knowledge of what it is i dont agree with im astounded at how many people who hate hitler just because hes hitler, they know nothing but the superficial the holocaust i mean that makes him th most eveil dictator in his history but what about the ideology that lead to it, the man himself, he wasnt just born a evil dictator.

[w4rma]

76. Hitler's ideology was fascism. It was corporatism + a belief in ethnic,

cultural and religious superiority.

fascism = totalitarianism + capitalism according to Mussolini and FDR
capitalism and socialism are opposite ends of an axis.
democracy and dictatorship/monarchy are opposite ends of another axis.

A state can be totalitarian and capitalist (fascism):

“Fascism should more appropriately be called corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power.” -- Benito Mussolini

“The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic State itself. That, in its essence, is Fascism -- ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or any controlling private power.” -- Franklin D. Roosevelt

A state can be totalitarian and socialist (communism)
A state can be democratic and capitalist.
A state can be democratic and socialist.
A state can be anywhere inbetween the two axis. The U.S. has both capitalist policies and socialist policies.

Here is a list of some of the socialist ones:
socialized armed forces
socialized water
socialized police
socialized fired department
social(ized) security
medicare
road building/maintanance
public waste and water treatment
public schools

[Hawkeye-X]

62. I'm calling on you

Why would you post right-wing claptrap? Newsmax is a well-known right-wing crap.

Hawkeye-X

[thebigidea]

64. the answer was real enlightening

"nonetheless a news source however unbalanced it is."

Speaking of being unbalanced...

[Derrick Lang]

66. What is the myth exactly

If the story is true its true the only thing is they would be getting sued for liable by him if it wernt, this media bias only pertains to what they choose to cover and with how much tenacity. As long as shits not made up (coulter) than who gives a shit where it comes from, you know the game from the left and from the right there is no center you have to balance it yourself.

[VermontDem2004]

75. Those links are evidence?

rotflmao.

[IndianaGreen]

22. You do realize that this is the son of Rev. Jesse Jackson...

that is endorsing Dean, or does that Che avatar (which I find extremely ironic coming from this sort of post of yours) prevents you from reading the story.

This is the son of Rev. Jesse Jackson, a US Congressman in his own right, that is endorsing Dean.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

23. Hey, I spotted the irony first!

<bobboudelang>
And you're stuck in the 19th century, so there! Nyah nyah nyah! :spank:
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[IndianaGreen]

25. Oooooh, a padaka stick

May I have another one, Sir!

:spank:

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

34. I'll be a READ sadist...

...NO! :evilgrin:

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[IndianaGreen]

30. Another red herring

that has nothing to do with Rep. Jackson's endorsement of Dean. It is almost as if you don't care to comment on the endorsement.

Why don't you start a Jackson bashing thread in GD then?

[RaulGroom]

79. You may not realize it

But you are interposing yourself in an argument between a couple of high school students. Is it worth it?

[Derrick Lang]

83. Actually i wraped up college last year n/m

[Skwmom]

40. Thanks for your insightful posts.

I wondered what the angle was. Dean seems to be very good at appealing to people who are looking out for numero uno. He's trying to paint his candidacy as a done deal and if you don't get on board with me you'll be left out in the cold.

[fob]

51. A Schwarzenegger, is that you?

nt

[Rich Hunt]

43. JJJr.

JJ Jr. is my congressman, and I'm very impressed with him. He is most definitely NOT his father - unfortunately, because of his name, he is in his shadow.

I was undecided, but this is a big endorsement for me, because I like JJJr.

[Chico Man]

27. Lacked more minority support than any onther contender? Not in RI!!!

Dean aupport at RI Dominican Festival...

http://www.rifordean.org/PostNuke/html/modules.php?set_albumName=album02&op=modload&name=Gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php

Dominican festival another RIFD success

Rhode Island for Dean (RIFD) had an information booth at Festival Dominicano de Rhode Island last Sunday at Roger Williams Park. Howard Dean was the only presidential candidate who was represented there.

The festival, which brought over 15,000 people together, was very important for the Dean candidacy since Providence is the home of one of the largest Dominican communities in the United States and is the only city with a Dominican City Councilman, State Representative and State Senator. We hope to continue building political alliances with the growing Dominican and Latino communities in the United States.

A few Rhode Island for Dean “regulars” were joined by Maryelyn and Eulogio Acevedo, who introduced us to dozens of people from the Latino community in Rhode Island. They campaigned enthusiastically and vigorously for Dean throughout the day. Matthew Jerzyk, Director of Jobs With Justice, also contributed his time and effort to the cause, as did Juan Ruben Gallardo and Saul Urbina. They distributed hundreds of flyers and spoke about the candidate to many, many people in the crowd of thousands who were at the festival. George Lally, a new member of RIFD, was there and he too did a great job.

Thank you! Thank you to all of these wonderful people who came out to support Dean.

More..

http://www.rifordean.org/PostNuke/html/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=8&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0

[Derrick Lang]

29. i meant african american but thanks for................

but thanks for letting me know about the hispanic vote i hadnt gotten to the story yet, that one indeed is a surprise, but i guess on close anylysis who else could they pick, ive really got to catch up on the latino movements

[Corgigal]

31. Who else can anyone pick?

I just want a Dem to win and whoever wants to endorse them is fine with me. I'm not going to change who I'm going to vote for because someone I don't care for is selecting the same person. Elections are bigger then one endorsement.

[Derrick Lang]

33. That i admit is true

[realFedUp]

35. So you are speaking for all African-Americans?

That is some power.

I think JJ's endorsement at this point is a big deal.

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[slinkerwink]

41. Give me some specifics

This is the SON of Jesse Jackson, hence the little attachment, "Jr."

Can you give me specifics about how his policies have HELPED or HURT African-Americans in SC?

:kick:

[VermontDem2004]

68. It's an endorsement by Jesse Jackson Jr

Not Jesse Jackson

[Derrick Lang]

69. i know that n/m

[thebigidea]

70. then why did you start your inane line of "debate"?

[Zhade]

80. Better question: why are 'they' always such horrific spellers?

I mean, sheesh!

[Derrick Lang]

84. Nothing i can do about that i type to fast n/m

[VermontDem2004]

86. I bet you I type faster

I can type and spell fast, that is what 3 years of computer keyboarding class has taught me. I do mispell every now and then but nearly as bad as you.

[Derrick Lang]

87. Is it that big of a deal...................

sure i spell bad, yes and im a professional writer so ive developed the useful trait of continuing on till prose completion and then editing however, to spend limited time alotted to me and use it editing informal messages isnt really sensible, however at 80 words per minute ill leave the spelling errors consider it avant garde (S.O.C.)

[thebigidea]

88. professional writer?

Ok, what have you published and where? Links?

"to spend limited time alotted to me and use it editing informal messages isnt really sensible"

Out of courtesy to your audience, you could translate it.

[Derrick Lang]

95. I've been published in Paranan

a small local literary magazine as well as working on my manuscript "A Summer's Gun" in addition to completing a short story set to appear in the anthology Soldiers Stories ive taken the liberty to include the rough draft here. The maximum alotted word usuage is 1,500 (1,492 in this version)



*Fwd to:Editor Max Roarshawk*
-Medal of Honor-
By Derrick Lang

The celebratory hour of attainment of the seventy-fifth year, and yet not a sign of degenerative dotage could be attested to, Considered to be a milestone even by his insouciant mind’s cynical beliefs. Count one more accolade for the man who brooked through life and conquered the average expectancy of existence. He spent the entire day so far in a wainscoted bedroom, entrance willfully left ajar, staring at honorary degrees, sports palms from his youthful days of rugby, but most importantly his congressional medal of honor.
Inhumed memories of the tribulation circa nineteen forty-four gave way to stolid reactions, immobile stance and eyes a gaze into the abyss. His intellect had gone awry searching for retrospective comprehension. The advantageous chance to view the sunrise through the glistening jalousie of the infirmary, or yet the honor obtained in a soldiers omega through the capriciousness of the battlefield. The once menacing left hand that reft and fired his first kill’s K-32 Krieghoff Luger at Normandy, now thinly grasped a half-empty seidel. Slightly inebriated his mind attentively paid homage to the interior anomalies that he neglected to amend.
The phone rang startling him out of his aloof state. “Hello,” He said, sitting down in his recliner.
“Hi Dad, Happy birthday old man,” his son spoke.
“Hello Daniel.”
“Me and Sue were wondering if you wanted to go out for you sweet-sweet grand old seventy-fifth,” Daniel Chuckled.
The old man let out an apologetic sigh. “Daniel I’m not much up for it today, been a bit, a bit under…the weather.”
“Well we can drop by around--.”
“How about some other time Danny boy. I’m just so tired, thanks for calling but I’m just a little tired, ill give you a ring later, ” With that the Senior bid his only child goodbye. The memory of his squad would not cease. Everyone from the acerbic Lieutenant Morgan to Captain Fairchild, but most importantly his own brother Jonah Everest, came rushing to him as raindrops in a great flood of memories.
For months now the aging ex-G.I. made numerous otiose efforts to confabulate all to no avail. Even the incessant consumption of holy fermented grain, became abortive after the perpetual pattern of aurora and eventide. Eventually his will failed and his mind drifted into a state of abstract sentience.
“Private Everest!” A mail carrier shouted as he threw a letter onto a young private’s gurney. The young man unenthusiastically opened the envelope. The world was still in jubilation, the Great War was over the axis was now defunct, yet Franklin Everest was still confined to an infirmary in France; his excitement was transient at best. As he unfolded the letter he immediately saw the White house letterhead and a salutation Dear Private 1st class Everest.
I take pride in informing you that the President of the United States has awarded you the Medal of Honor with citation to yourself, Private first class Franklin Everest, United States Army, for conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity at the risk of your life above and beyond the call of duty in action against enemy German forces at Normandy, the northwest coast of France, 6 June 1944.
In accordance with custom, this Headquarters wishes to arrange a formal presentation of the medal and citation to you under such conditions and at such place as may suit your wishes and convenience.
I tender my sympathy and condolence in your bereavement over the loss of your platoon.

Sincerely General Abraham Brigham
A grin briefly made an appearance, before the thoughts Jonah and his opinions. His fists clenched together, fingernails digging into his palms, a masochistic attempt at distraction to fight back the tears swelling in his eyes. He folded the citation and held it in his hand. Tears trickling down his cheek he muttered, “God I miss you! With all the strength his shrapnel ridden body could muster he made a futile effort to reach for his brothers picture, that lay what seemed like an infinity of inches away.
The servile soldier sat idle overlooking the headstones of causalities from conflicts passed. The reverberation of the seventeen gun salute for general Brigham; still echoed inside his head. In stark contrast to the somber toned, marathon of small memorials he attended for his infantry comrades. Families of the deceased and onlookers trekked through the grounds, ignorant of the aloof senior citizen clinching a glistening medal. Raindrops trickled down his forehead galling his eyes. With a coup d'oeil his faculty received a wake up call and placed the medal in his pocket; He languished from head to toe, collapsing onto the damp soil. Hands now mired, he stroked his fingertips through the dirt that imprisoned his kin. Slowly he desired to no longer wage war on the essence of the warriors manifesto.
‘Here Lies Jonah Everest’, the realization Unfathomable even after more than a half-century. “Jo-Jo-nah,” he muttered summoning all the strength afforded to him. Soiled hands now covering the departure date. “O, O brother, I’m so, so very sorry.” Now the fluids that enriched the earth, aggregated with the teardrops of a deprived soul.
With a swig of whiskey from his kettler flask memories became crystal clear. Eyes still heavy at six-thirty a.m. the two brothers hunkered together. Both their lineaments strewn with sand, blinding their peripheral vision. “Stay down!” the elder private commanded his brother, with his cubitus forcefully doing so, had the younger not obliged. A rapid glance up could be a death wish. Wandering German artillery shells seem to take out the first infantry haphazardly. Clutching his m-one Garand, Jonah Everest arose firing aimlessly at the bluffs.
While his brother advanced only a few meters, young Everest lay frozen attempting to allay the surrounding ambience; shells separated soldier’s extremities, splattering their life fluid onto his fatigues. Surely it’s all just an excessively realistic lucid dream; and they’re still at their small ranch home in Ohio. Mom would be awakening them any second for breakfast, sausage omelets with blueberry flapjacks, which was her own specialty. He became disquieted when he couldn’t spot Jonah through the haze of gun smoke and spewing earth. “Jonah! Jonah!”
An opened hand rap on his shoulder startled him, “Stay the hell down, Wait till I--.” In brevity his brother paused, immediately collapsing onto Private Everest. “Jo-Jo,” he whispered to himself. “Jo-Jo! Get Up Joe.” Shaking his brother violently to get up to no avail, he shouted at his comrades, “Help! Someone! No response, pleas deafened by the cacophonies of warfare. “God! Why him! Help please anything help please, do it!” he pleaded to the heavens pounding his brother’s chest plate, as acute pains ravaged his dorsum.
Doing away with plebian sentiments, he wailed as if he were a newborn. Clutching the headstone as if it were going to vanish. “I’m so sorry,” he said while simultaneously hawking phlegm. “I didn’t deserve it. All I did was survive.” His arbitrary quest for brotherly absolution had rattled him. An open hand clutched his stomach moments before disgorgement, throughout the quick involuntary act he never managed to release his tight grip on the decanter; which contained but a few drops. “I’m so sorry I didn’t mean to,” he apologetically uttered while rummaging back his forelock.
“I-I should have been the one. Jo-Jonah I know, please…forgive….”
Plagued by opinions that he failed miserably the expectations of his tutelary. Out of all deleterious pursuits he had undertaken only now did the storming of the German defilade, seem to matter, for only it clamed the throne of the non-abdicable of memories. “It’s my…Fault. I knew it was an error, or-or-or some--.” With a flood of tears to accompany the monsoon of guilt he pulled his medal from his coat pocket. As he stared at the eagle perched on a cross cannon. He could only utter the words “NO.” As he turned it over he released it from his grip. In what seemed like an instant the highest of honors sat there in the grass face down reading, ‘The Congress To.’ The eternal indelible name inscription now had a sticker over it ‘Jonah Everest’.
In his trembling left hand he held his prized spoil, the Krieghoff Luger. Its thin bore hadn’t ejected a single slug in over half a century. “Brother, I wonder if this old thing still works.” He brought the barrel upwards to his sweaty temple. The years of uselessness had to in some manner come to a conclusion tonight. “I never deserved this! I appreciated it all Jonah, I swear to you.” As he erected his posture he distinctly spoke, “but you did.” With one shot a thunders of hundreds of decibels echoed across the quaint landscape. As the smoke arose and disappeared, he stood with an altitudinous left arm. “But you did. Thank You.” Finally a smile appeared as he placed the gun barrel down into the soil. “Good Job Soldier,” he said as he saluted his long gone brother, with mettlesome honor.

[Ripley]

32. Wow, must be too early for the Dean haters...

But never too early for a freeper who can't spell.

I like JJ's reasons for endorsement..."I've seen him stand up for health care," he said. "I've seen him stand up for students. I've seen him stand up for ordinary Americans. I'm asking you to stand up for Howard Dean."

Great news!
:bounce:

[GypsyBob1]

39. so what?

Jackson is a looney.

Dean doesn't need him. Clinton didn't.

[Rich Hunt]

44. you must have the wrong person

Jesse Jackson Jr. is very down to earth.

Health care is a big issue with him, so I can see why he would endorse Dean.

JJ Jr. is really popular with the seniors around here.

[GypsyBob1]

45. yep - ur right

thx

[thebigidea]

71. but by all means, continue your attack on Jesse Jackson in this thread

apparently it hasn't stopped any one else from acting like an utter nincompoop.

[JaneQPublic]

42. Jesse Jr. is a rising star of the Democratic Party

Unlike his father, he actually has been elected to office, serving as U.S. Representative from Chicago since 1995.

Although not quite the orator his father is, he's very well spoken, as you know if you've ever heard him interviewed on TV.

Plus, as a member of a subcommittee on small business, he's done a lot to help businesses in his home district, including the poorer neighborhoods of Chicago.

An endorsement from Jesse Jr. is a valuable feather in Dr. Dean's cap.

[Derrick Lang]

48. i agree

he is a rising star although i consider harold ford jr to be much more pragmatic i'm worried about dean getting affected by this endorsement because of the timing. If this was the general elec. i wouldnt be as worried, im just scared going into iowa the associasiont people have with him and his dat henceforth rainbow push. Then there was that whole deal about the night club fire and the owner being a huge donor to jrs campaign nonetheless i think this does dean no good at the moment, if you weigh it out. Thats just my opinion and ill still support dean until the end.

[VermontDem2004]

72. It will help Dean alot more then it will hurt him

I guarantee you that. Plus I like JJjr much more then Harold Ford Jr, if you compare the two's voting record JJjr is much more progressive.

Then there was that whole deal about the night club fire and the owner being a huge donor to jrs campaign nonetheless

What? JJr burned down the night club?

[thebigidea]

73. didn't you know that? Jackson Jr. also drinks the blood of infants!

Newsmax told me so, and I don't doubt it even though they are biased... I mean, they're still a news source, right?

[Derrick Lang]

74. the club owner

The club owner was a huge donor to the campain and he seemed to get cosseted by the jacksons moreso than the vitims themselves,

[w4rma]

77. A **whole lot** of folks give $2,000 to campaigns (max federal limit).

Are candidates supposed to keep track what of all of them do in their personal lives? Do you **want** the government to keep track of what folks do in their personal lives, Derrick Lang? I don't think it's anyone's buisness.

[Derrick Lang]

78. im sure child molesters feel the same way

Plus we have that whole law thing you know dictating what we can and cant do, taxes (which i so happen to love). I guess we can go ahead and let the klan and militias run wild wild too, not like they ever commit terroist attacks, its just a myth, incest producing deformed children corrupting the genetics of the country who cares as long as no ones involved in peoples personal lives.

[thebigidea]

89. interesting riff

gotta admit, you're pretty entertaining.

But I still think you HATE FREEDOM!

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[thebigidea]

98. "I'm assuming u admire clinton" - why?

"check his history at oxford pertaining to the soviet union then talk about me hating freedom. "

Bwhahahhaha.

"All these conclusions from an abstract che avatar my man lol"

Well, there is the Newsmax/O'Reilly thing to consider.

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[thebigidea]

101. what the hell is a "centerist media"?

I gave up on the rest of your paragraph. If you want to communicate, try English sentence structure.

[Derrick Lang]

104. ok how about a media outlet that doesnt lean left or right....

i spelled it wrong to amuse my self you know centerest IN THE MIDDLE

[thebigidea]

105. you're amusing a lot of people

is centerist that much more amusing than centrist?

[Derrick Lang]

109. Let me draw it out for you.....

centerist-is not a word
centerest-is

there is no centerest media ie centerist

[thebigidea]

115. I'm trying, but I can't make heads or tails of that

do you write using William Burroughs-style cutups? Just half of one page glued to half of an unrelated page?

[Derrick Lang]

130. William Burroughs i admired but im quite Joycean

in asense i use portmanteau like i just did in my lasr post

[thebigidea]

131. Finnegans Wake you aint

[Derrick Lang]

137. Yea you were the first human being to comprehend the most

difficult piece of literature in the 20th century im not joyce? okay show me who is, alas

[VermontDem2004]

116. centerest is not a word

No entry found for centerest.

Did you mean centrist?

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=centerest

So much for being a professional writer.

[Derrick Lang]

132. You Ever hear of neoglisms?

CENTER+Intrest gee if i was to use portmanteau which i did what would that give me....? and if i wanted a pun omg that would give me...... Yea so much for being a professional writer, way to debunk the myth there my non literary pal

[VermontDem2004]

133. You said centerest is a word

You said nothing about CENTER+Interest, I used a dictionary, you didn't but you should use one much more often because you have trouble spelling.

[Derrick Lang]

139. geez...........

I type fast and im doing two things and once let me break it down 4 u again

You can use neoglisms okay i dont know if youre a lexicologist ill assumenot. you see each year dictionaries add neoglisms (new words or uses for words) see thats how this thing we have called language grows. Did i say it was in the dictionary no? becaus eits a fresh new neoglism but its a word and portmanteau see look it reall is Center+Intrest oh my God it works. However Centerist is not either way and centrist is in the lexicon. I know its far to elaborate i just like to amuse myself with wordplay, its not like im using anagrams or anything.

[VermontDem2004]

143. Stop with the typing fast excuse

I can type fast and I am typing fast and I don't have trouble spelling. My point is this, I am not typing spanish or swahili on this message board, I am typing english. So you said something like centerest is a word which isn't an english word I just pointed it out.

[Derrick Lang]

147. if my spelling..

is so bad read the story i posted up a few messages. So since you happen to be a great spller + fast typer i guess your mind leads you to believe everyone has that inherrent gift??????? Am i right?

[VermontDem2004]

152. You are not a fast typist if you have problems spelling

When I was taking computer keyboarding classes I had to type as fast as I can with no spelling errors, if you are going to type something atleast type slow enough so you can spell correctly, sometimes I have problems reading your posts because I can't make out what words you are trying to say.

[thebigidea]

134. thankfully, Joyce didn't post to message boards in FINNEGANese

even more thankfully, we have you to fill the void - Derrick Lang: modernist heir to James Joyce, literary icon, defender of the realm, lord of newsmax, friend of o'reilly, daily rush listener.

Let us all praise famous centerists!

[VermontDem2004]

136. rotflmao

lord of newsmax, rotflmao.

[Derrick Lang]

146. Now im evil becasue i believe in free speech and fredom of the press n/m

[thebigidea]

149. exactly. Didn't you know that people who believe in free speech...

... are directly controlled by Stalinists?

Its true. I read it in Newsmax.

[VermontDem2004]

103. Newsmax is insanely right

Go to the front page and they will have a negative story on Hillary. The never report ANYTHING bad about Bush or something simply unflattering. If you are citing Newsmax as a source you lost credibility with me, browse the LBN thread, you will notice noone is posting news stories from Mother Jones or some left wing news site. It is all reputable news sources. Plus the story you posted from Newsmax was a letter or something like that from a pro-war revered blasting black leaders for being anti-war.

[Derrick Lang]

106. Oh like everyone didnt switch

I was pro war at first too most people were, i tend to give people the benefit of the doubt whatta mistake. However cnn is liberal with the exception of tucker and novak really they are, cbs liberal i mean you are at the mercy of what the media wants to report just like honestly i would not write something unfavorable towards Al franken if my life depended on it but would do oreilly in a second, i wouldnt lie or do that much of a spin job id just cherry pick. Even the most reputable paper in the country has left leanings (like myself)

[VermontDem2004]

108. CNN liberal?

:eyes: hahahahahaha CNN is just another Bush whore and I was against the Iraq War from the start. CBS, I didn't CBS was a 24/7 News channel. Ok I can understand a slightly right story from the Wallstreet Journal but Newsmax? Come on? Unfuckingbelievable if you actually think Newsmax reports the truth.

[Derrick Lang]

114. Oh i know they take liberites

We all do were human in fact i find them to be very belying and afected however that reference happened to be true. Cnn isnt really a bush whore just timid and meek afraid of Fox (by the way im anti fox) Go TEAMFRANKEN

[thebigidea]

119. what the heck are liberites?

sounds like some weird sexual fetish cult that do rude things to busts of Thomas Jefferson.

"Cnn isnt really a bush whore just timid and meek afraid of Fox"

Paula Zahn isn't a bush whore?

" (by the way im anti fox)"

yet you watch Billy Boy "religiously."

[Derrick Lang]

135. liberties i just got out n out lazy and spelled it wrong accidently

Im anti Nazi but guess what i read mein kampf and watched triumph of the will, gee i guess its hard to be aginst something and view it to pick apart thier myths, guess im agrandizing fox and giving them effectual ratings to take over the world. Im not a blind oreilly adherent man i just like to be entertained by his obvious affectation when hes on camera. Also Alan Colmes is a nice guy, no really he is

[thebigidea]

138. ALAN COLMES IS MORE THAN A NICE GUY!

Alan Colmes has had more brilliant thoughts than you've had HOT DINNERS!

ALAN COLMES is the TRUE liberal savior - all others are moneychangers in the temple, idols at best...

Take that back at ONCE. I expect a lengthy Derrickian essay praising Alan Colmes on my desk by morning, or i'll start jamming your RUSH LIMBAUGH broadcasts.

"nice guy" - humph. I'll have you know that ALAN COLMES kept me alive during the war.

I'll have you know that ALAN COLMES is the only thing standing between you and a fascist dictatorship!

The NERVE of some people, to dismiss Alan Colmes... damning him with such faint praise.

SOME Democratic Christian Socialist you are.

[VermontDem2004]

145. yes! yes! yes!

I am glad someone brung up Alan Colmes!

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[thebigidea]

151. he is NOT Hannity's bitch... he is a strong, articulate voice for the left

quite frankly, his voice gives me an erection. And I'll be damned if some Hannity-come-lately comes between me and my hardon.

You owe Mr. Colmes an apology, sir!

Good heart? He is almost as pure as a Vermont snowfall, a beacon of hope in a world gone mad.

Mr. Clean has a "good heart" - That guy that delivers your mail has a "good heart" - but Alan Colmes... he IS the heart. The very soul of Democratic Party.

[thebigidea]

110. bwhahahah - CNN IS LIBERAL! The best line you've come up with

outside of Carville/Begala, can you name ONE liberal on the station?

LOU DOBBS, right?

JUDY WOODRUFF?

PAULA ZAHN?

JACK CAFFERTY?

[VermontDem2004]

112. I chocked on my chicken sandwich when I read that

[Logansquare]

81. Jackson Jr. is rock solid!

He has a 100 percent voting participation record, and more importantly, he's one of us. Look at his ratings at VoteSmart:
http://www.vote-smart.org/issue_rating_category.php?can_id=BC028365#Liberal

Maybe the dad's star attitude annoys you, but the son is fighting the good cause in our government.

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[VermontDem2004]

85. Why are you going to be sick with rage?

We have other fine candidates in the race. I like JJjr because he is one of us and you can drag his father down all you want, I don't care this is a GREAT endorsement for Dean.

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[thebigidea]

93. so you're saying Jesse Jackson is the equivalent of Pat Robertson?

disgusting.

[Derrick Lang]

100. oh my God you a great spinner...

It was a hypothetical question, let me break it down If Pat Robertson endorsed a canidate i would think (if i were your typical voter) hmm his agenda isnt in line with mine and i dont want anyone amendable to the right, ie he loses my vote. Its hypothetical if the people have antipithy towards the whole family and rainbow push it could damge the only hope you guys have in ousting dubya

[thebigidea]

102. I'm not the O'Reilly/Newsmax fan here, dear

"the only hope you guys have in ousting dubya"

ah, there's a giveaway.

"you guys"?

On behalf of "you guys," we thank you for your interest. Please drive through.

[Derrick Lang]

107. As i said before i am a Democratic Christian Socialist .

its not like we have a plethera of canidates, the Dnc hijacked the party so i packed up and left

[thebigidea]

113. so Newsmax caters to "Democratic Christian Socialists," yes?

does O'Reilly really carry the Socialist torch for you?

Be careful, you might get burned.

[VermontDem2004]

118. rotflmao

does O'Reilly really carry the Socialist torch for you?

bigidea I swear you are the funniest poster on this board. Bring back Colmes!

[VermontDem2004]

111. I am waiting for him to bust out a

"This is a no spin zone" "you are living in the land of Oz" "Shut up! Shut Up!" or other famous O'reilly lines.

[thebigidea]

117. time for a pre-emptive strike

O'REILLY: "Now, Derrick - I respect your right to an opinion, and I'll let you have the final word - but you're wrong, alright? Now you can't come on here and spin the American Public, because this is a no-spin zone, alright? Now, I believe in freedom of speech, but only for me, so please shut up."

[VermontDem2004]

120. rotflmao

[Derrick Lang]

123. That was inded quite adroit of you and amusing too but

unfair. I know thats not a swatstika. Hes not a racist

[thebigidea]

125. ok, give me your argument...

how is O'Reilly NOT like the unholy combination of Goebbels and Father Coughlin?

Please insert your spirited defense of Mr. Shut Up here.

[VermontDem2004]

127. Not a racist?

Perhaps you missed the wetback and hubcaps comments. Perhaps you don't pay attention to how he goes on about rap this rap that but never brings up heavy metal which can have just as vile lyrics as rappers. Now you have been funny since you been here but please stop, I can't stop laughing.

[Derrick Lang]

121. As i said before

being in such a small "party" (which really is nothing more than independants) i can balance myself. I am a left leaner i find oreilly to be entertaining and he has a liberal side (anti death penalty, pro marijuana decriminalization) hes a bully and a persnicty fuck, so what im not hypnotised by idealogy. So my daily digests includes levine and goldman to fox and rush

[VermontDem2004]

122. Fox and Rush?

Wow what an interesting combo!

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[thebigidea]

126. George, is that you?

"prevaricative"

we may be misunderestimating you.

God, this is fun. I hope you never get tombstoned.

[Derrick Lang]

140. Prevarication sorry hey i never clamed to be Landol MaCHAND N/M

[VermontDem2004]

129. Here is why

"I think what we've had here is a little social concern in the NFL. The media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well. There is a little hope invested in McNabb and he got a lot of credit for the performance of this team that he didn't deserve. The defense carried this team."

[Derrick Lang]

141. seeing as in im black...

i didnt agree with him. but since when is the fact that you listen to someone mean your thier supporter, if anything its to debunk and prove him wrong, ie how do you know rush is bad if you never listen? i find talk radio to be entertaining but i dont recieve anyhting from it, escept for stonger resolve

[thebigidea]

144. "how do you know rush is bad if you never listen? "

how do you know eating ground glass in your hamburger is bad if you never try it?

[Derrick Lang]

150. Is that a person a powerful entity? A Human being that deserves to be

respected??? (although i dont think rush is much for the human part or needs respect)

[thebigidea]

128. you listen to Rush daily?

Well, no wonder.

[Derrick Lang]

142. not literarly but i try to keep up maybe 2x a week oreilly about 4

[thebigidea]

153. some freedomlover you are... lets try to up those stats...

[thebigidea]

154. awww, damn. He's been tombstoned

I'll miss his centerest charm and odd syntax.

[VermontDem2004]

155. I am curious

Why did he get tombstoned? I am sure he was an honest socialist who lists to Rush and Oh Really rigoursly(spelled it wrong probaly).

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[Democat]

94. Jesse Jackson Jr. is a Congressman

Your post will be gone by the time most people read this, but I just wanted to make that clear.

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[Democat]

92. Jackson Jr. is a good Rep.

This is a great endorsement for Howard Dean!