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rooboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 07:25 AM
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Jessica snubs her rescuer
Palestine, West Virginia: An Iraqi lawyer who helped US forces in the rescue of Jessica Lynch ended a tour of the soldier's home town today, but he didn't get to meet the young woman because she was too busy recovering from her injuries and preparing for her book's release.

"I will not forget. It will stay with me, in my mind, in my heart," Mohammed al-Rehaief said as a ceremonial yellow mum was planted in a garden planted in his honour.

The Lynch family's lawyer Stephen Goodwin said the 20-year-old former Army supply clerk was too busy with five day a week rehabilitation from her injuries and commitments related to next month's release of her book, I Am a Soldier, Too: The Jessica Lynch Story.

"Jessica Lynch is deeply thankful to Mohammed," Stephen Goodwin said. "She looks forward to a private meeting with him in the near future."

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/10/28/1067233164415.html
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Racenut20 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 07:27 AM
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1. Made a joke out of the bronze star. How shameful
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TheLastMohican Donating Member (753 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 07:54 AM
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8. Give the girl a break!
She didn't have a desire for that medal nor she wished any fame. She just happened to be in the right place and Pentagon wanted some living war heroes.
Although, I agree with you, all those recipients of Bronze Star should quite naturally be offended, if all it takes to receive one is to have an auto-accident.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 07:56 AM
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9. No excuse for Lynch not seeing her rescuer
unless that part of the story is also a total fabrication.

If someone saved your life, the least you can do is invite him for tea.
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Scairp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 08:04 AM
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12. Agreed
He came to her hometown, the least she could do was spare the man five minutes to say thank you. Very classless on her part.
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lostnfound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 08:51 AM
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20. Maybe not classless -- might be 'conflicted'
Imagine this:
You are young, naiive, relatively poor, and find yourself swept up in a charade which promises millions in short order just for going along with a story about what happened to you. Maybe you have some questions in your mind about what happened and why, but you have no way to see how it fits with the big picture. You're uncomfortable with going ahead with it, but gosh, how can you deny your family the chance to be lifted out of poverty?

If you knew parts of it were a lie, would you be enthusiastic about meeting one of the conspirators? Or perhaps your handlers are keeping you away from him, advising you it might not be best for you to meet him, because they see you as 'conflicted'?

Total speculation, but I can easily imagine it.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 09:22 AM
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26. I have empathy for Jessica, but even an eight year old
would know right from wrong on this one. And to snub the very person who is responsible for your rescue is just plain wrong. SHe may have handlers who are manipulating her on her story and the $$$ contracts, but she is NOT a child. She knows better and I can't condone this.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 09:24 AM
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27. Unless there was no rescue, or rescuer
and the entire thing was nothing but a staged PR event. Lynch needs to speak out if this is the case, or else the impression will be left that she has a racial problem (her lack of communication with her former comrades is also troubling).
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 09:34 AM
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28. the Iraqi's had her in an ambulance trying to get her back to the
Americans but we fired on them.
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7th_Sephiroth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 09:35 AM
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30. your right
it sounds all staged to me, her writing a book (for millions of dollars) just confirms it
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 08:51 AM
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21. Unless someone didn't actually 'save your life' and a big deal was all
blown up from nothing.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 08:59 AM
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23. I suspect that the entire story about Lynch is a fabrication
If you recall the British press interviews with the medical staff at the clinic that treated Lynch, she was never a prisoner, was well taken care of, there were no guards guarding Lynch, and the medical staff was very protective of her. They were surprised when the US military showed up and roughed them up.

This "defector" probably took advantage of knowing where Lynch was in order to ingratiate himself with the conquering Americans, not to mention getting a permanent visa to the US for himself and his family.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 09:08 AM
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25. And working for the honorable Bob Livingston ($550K)
See post #24
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Say_What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 09:39 AM
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33. This guy is working for the PR firm who spun the Kuwaiti incubator
story for Bush I.

PR Specialist of Debunked Persian Gulf War Incubator Story Promotes New Book on Lynch "Rescue"

...Along with the chance for U.S. citizenship, al-Rehaief received $300,000 from Rupert Murdoch's Harper Collins for his new book about the Lynch rescue. He also was given a job at the Livingston Group, a high-powered D.C. lobby firm. His book "Because Each Life Is Precious: Why an Iraqi Man Came to Risk Everything for Pvt. Jessica Lynch" is being promoted by his Livingston Group colleague Lauri Fitz-Pegado. She is infamous for her work at Hill & Knowlton PR in 1990 coaching the Kuwaiti girl called "Nayirah" in her shocking but phony testimony on Congressional hill that she'd seen Iraqi soldiers murdering Kuwaiti babies.

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=03/10/17/1530239
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 09:44 AM
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35. I can think of an excuse for her not seeing her resucer
Maybe she KNOWS that he WASN'T her rescuer.

Never forget that we only have the Bush White House's word for it that she's lost her memory. The people at the Iraqi hospitial she was in say that they were the ones who contacted the U.S. military--if so, she was never really a prisoner.

Maybe she's trying to stay alive now that three of her rescuers are now dead of a single-car accident, a street gang shooting, a bullet in the back in Afghanistan.

Maybe her book really WILL be worth reading.


rocknation

P.S. He could have called ahead, by the way.
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Say_What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 09:48 AM
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36. PROMOTER: Lauri Fitz-Pegado infamous for coaching NAYIRAH for Bush I
From Democracy Now!!

Lauri Fitz-Pegado. She is infamous for her work at Hill & Knowlton PR in 1990 coaching the Kuwaiti girl called "Nayirah" in her shocking but phony testimony on Congressional hill that she'd seen Iraqi soldiers murdering Kuwaiti babies.

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=03/10/17/1530239

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RapidCreek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 08:08 AM
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14. If she didn't want the medal or the fame
Edited on Tue Oct-28-03 08:10 AM by RapidCreek
all she had to do is decline to accept the medal and the book and movie deals....not a terribly difficult thing to do. Or are you being sarcastic?

RC
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 10:23 AM
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39. Excuse me, but how does one become a "war hero" when...
...rendered unconscious by the crash of the vehicle in which he or she is riding?

And as you and others have mentioned, just how does that square up with all of those people that have earned the Bronze Star by actions during actual combat?

And what of the other people in her unit that were wounded and are not only receiving LESS benefits, but also NO book and movie deal? Could it be because they're not blond and blue-eyed?

And what of the family and friends of the soldiers that were killed in her unit? How do you think they feel about all of this?

Lynch and her family could have just said "no", couldn't they? The fact that they didn't makes them part of the issue, IMHO.
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Heddi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 12:38 PM
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50. yep. She sure didn't want any fame :rolling eyes:
that's why she got a really huge book deal, and every tv station in the world wanting to put her story on TeeVee....yep. She's just living quietly in the W.Va woods...not looking for any fame whatsoever.....:eyes:
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WillParkinson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 03:16 PM
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57. Fame, I wanna live forever...
If she didn't want the fame then why write a book on the subject?
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coralrf Donating Member (656 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 09:16 PM
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67. If she did not want in on the scam...
then why the Amnesia bullshit? Why did she not turn the story away from herself? She could have diverted some of that attention to more deserved comrades. But she did not.

She knows the whole thing is bullshit and yet she shuts her yap to make a buck. She will get no break from me as she has had a shitload so far from other sources.
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sujan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 07:29 AM
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2. big deal
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 11:01 AM
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42. "Jessica… looks forward to a private meeting with him in the near future"
Doesn't sound like a snub at all. Give the 20 year old kid a break. She's served her country honorably and has, thanks to the Bush propaganda machine, been tossed into the media spotlight where she's being used by a country desperate for real heroes. Everything I've read about her suggests she isn't misrepresenting her own story and is genuinely upset about the loss of her comrades.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 09:17 PM
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68. There is no story for Lynch to "misrepresent"
She became unconscious when the Humvee she was riding in overturned. She has no memory of what happened. I cannot fathom what could she possibly have to say about her Iraq experiences that could not be told, with far more detail, by any of the other survivors of the 507 Maint Co.

Considering the contemporary press reports that Lynch had been a very close friend of the only Native-American in her unit, PFC Lori Piestewa, how come Lynch has yet to meet with Piestawa's family to share in their grief?

Seems to me that the real heroes of the 507th have yet to be recognized for their gallant actions while under fire on a battle that lasted between 60 to 90 minutes according to the following report prepared by TRADOC:

Attack on the 507th Maintenance Company
23 March 2003
An Nasiriyah, Iraq
Executive Summary


Luten was wounded in the leg while reaching for his M16. The group took increasing small arms and rocket-propelled grenade fire from all sides; and like the first group faced attempts to block the road with debris and vehicles. The tractor-trailer immediately in front of CPL Luten’s tractor-trailer, crewed by SPC Zhang and SGT Campbell, was hit multiple times and became inoperable about 5 kilometers south of the city—but short of CPT King’s final location further south. Zhang jumped out of the disabled tractor-trailer and got on the tractor-trailer rolling immediately behind, occupied by Dubois and Luten. SGT Campbell was shot while attempting to fire Zhang’s M16/M203. The HMMWV crewed by Nash and Jackson stopped to pick up Campbell, and was disabled a short distance further south. SSG Jackson had received multiple wounds prior to stopping to rescue Campbell. Dubois, Luten, and Zhang turned around and returned to the disabled HMMWV.

SPC Grubb returned fire with his M16 until wounded in both arms, despite reported jamming of his weapon, while PFC Elliot maneuvered their fuel truck through the ambush. SGT Rose, driving a tractor-trailer, maneuvered through obstacles in the road while under fire. CPL Carista, who was riding with Rose, was wounded by shrapnel. The fuel truck, crewed by SPC Grubb and PFC Elliot, and the tractor-trailer, occupied by SGT Rose and CPL Carista, linked up with the Soldiers already at the disabled HMMWV. This group formed a defensive perimeter, while Combat Lifesavers (Carista, Elliot, Rose, Zhang) under the leadership of SGT Rose tended to the wounded Soldiers (Campbell, Carista, Grubb, Jackson and Luten). The Marines arrived at the scene and rescued the 10 Soldiers at this location.

<snip>

In the HEMTT wrecker towing a 5-ton tractor-trailer, SPC Hudson attempted to fire his M249 SAW while driving, but it malfunctioned. After he had driven past obstacles and debris, including an Iraqi tank blocking the road, his vehicle was disabled on the southern edge of the city. Iraqi forces continued to fire on the vehicle after it stopped. CW2 Mata, in the passenger seat, was killed, having sustained multiple wounds. Hudson, also wounded, was immediately surrounded after the shooting stopped, and was pulled from the vehicle by Iraqis and captured. (FIGURE 8 shows the final disposition of the convoy).

The 5-ton tractor trailer (#8), crewed by PFC Howard Johnson and PVT Ruben Estrella-Soto, and the 5-ton truck (#9), crewed by SPC Jamaal Addison and SPC James Kiehl, attempted to drive out of the city. After both vehicles maneuvered several miles under fire, and nearly out of the city, both were destroyed. There are few details to describe what happened to the Soldiers in these vehicles. Both vehicles were stopped: #9 overturned at the Highway 8-7/8 intersection, possibly hit by direct or indirect fire, and #8 was disabled south of the intersection. There is some evidence to suggest that vehicle #8 struck the barrel of an Iraqi tank. All four Soldiers were killed in action.

http://www.4law.co.il/Le845.htm

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davhill Donating Member (854 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 07:30 AM
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3. The battle of the books
Is shapeing up to be bigger than the battle for Baghdad.
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 07:34 AM
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4. Where was he when he was blinded?
"He was left blind in his left eye after a bomb exploded as he fled for his life."

Was this at the scene of the "rescue"? Did we injure him?

I'll wait and hear about it when Lynch's book comes out. It'll all be in there, I'm sure. :eyes:
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OldSoldier Donating Member (982 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 07:37 AM
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5. Please don't tell me you're going to buy that!
There will be more reality in "Dick and Jane" stories than in that book.

It's going to be a "God bless America, God bless George Bush" lovefest.
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 07:42 AM
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6. Gosh no, I'd never buy that book
That's why I said I'd hear about it. It'll be 24/7 on all the so-called news channels. (Unless it criticizes; then we won't hear a word.)

Oh, no, that's one book I will never ever read.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 09:06 AM
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24. Are your ready for this story??? ARE YOU SURE?
NBS's Dateline (and NBC has NO interest if suportnig his story which they are making a movie off of and paying Lynch nada) last Friday Rashief told the story of the Marines who told him to make sure he got across a certain bridge before that night as it was to be blown up.

Rashief is just now learning English while working for Bob Livingston's lobbying group. So how he communicated with the first Armericans he ran into is a whole other question.

Anyway after going back to his apartment to get his family (they had fled to a relative's) he had to use what on Friday night was called "martial arts training" to fight off two proSaddam neighbors and get out of the apartment building. By Monday morning on the Today show Rashief was "former kung fu champion of Iraq". Both stories featured his jumping spinning kicking re-enactment. How his neighbors knew what he was doing is a whole other question.

By this point in the story he is driving, not walking as earlier (first it was 6 miles now it is 36) , and some Fedayeen just knew what he was supposedly doing so they chased him guns ablazing. As he raced across the bridge with bombs raining down he JUST made it...........the car full of Fedayeen did not, they were hit. His eye was hit with shrapnel amidst the explosions.

I asked you first.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 07:44 AM
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7. Well, that's very white of Jessica!
Oh wait! She is WHITE! She is the white heroine that the media adores, while ignoring the plight of her other comrades of the 507 Maintenance Company.

If Jessica had been a fat, ugly, African-American woman, she would not be getting a million dollar book deal and she would be getting only 30% disability instead of 80% as Jessica is.
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TheLastMohican Donating Member (753 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 08:04 AM
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11. Do you mean Shaushauna Johnson?
The other ex-Pow of African_american decent. We haven't heard much from her lately. Not good-looking, not all-american type of girl, not white, eh? /sarcasm off
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 08:13 AM
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15. Shoshana is being discharged from the Army with 30% disability
and she, who unlike Lynch did fight off the Iraqis, is not getting anywhere the recognition or the help that Lynch is getting by virtue of her golden hair.
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ninkasi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 08:23 AM
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17. Why not a book and a movie
about Shoshana's ordeal? I can still remember seeing her on t.v. in the early days of this mess, when she was still held captive. The look of fear on her face was heartbreaking.

The battles she has continuted to fight for medical treatment, rehab, disability, all of it, would make a more true story of an American soldier, as far as I'm concerned. I want to see her story.
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gibbyman Donating Member (78 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 03:23 PM
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59. Can't be Right
Shaushauna Johnson is only reciveing 30% she was in same army as the White Girl
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 08:28 AM
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18. Yes, and her rescuer is not
West Virginia, cute blond girl rescued by a dirty Muslim? Wouldn't fly, would it?

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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 08:55 AM
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22. Tha's right! If she weren't a little white girl, she'd be homeless,
jobless, and without medical care for injuries sustained fighting as a US taxpayer funded oil companey mercenary er I mean US soldier liberating the oppressed iraqis. She and her daughter would be living on the street. If she wasn't a lily white little girl.

But she is a lily white little girl who was was in a car wreck ,er I mean captured by the horrible oppressed iraqis er I mean... what do I mean? I'm confused.
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DemVet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 09:39 AM
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32. What does being white have to do with it?
Are you accusing Jessica of being a racist?
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 10:43 AM
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40. No...but I'm personally stating that the people who are pushing this...
...story ARE racists in terms of the policy they're pursuing. Why is Lynch...white, blue-eyed, and blond...receiving an 80% disability package from the Army while Johnson...black and dark-eyed...is being given a 30% disability? Do you think that's the correct policy for the Army to pursue?

Why aren't the other members of Lynch's unit that were POWs being singled out for special treatment such as an award of the Bronze Star, 80% disability, offers of college scholarships, a book deal, and a movie deal? How about the families and friends of the soldiers in Lynch's unit that were killed...what's being done for them?
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DemVet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 11:42 AM
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47. If there is wrong-doing
..in the assignment of the disability percentages assigned between the two soldiers, I believe it will eventually come out.

Look, I'm no supporter of this whole Iraq thing, but I'll put my spin on it concerning my military experience if I can.

I've been through the military disability system and know how it works, something most people here can't claim. It would require me to know exactly which permanent injuries each still has before making the charge of racism.

Disability ratings are assigned based on residual function for the rest of a person's life, not necessarily the actual injury sustained at the time of incident. It's quite possible, in fact, for a gunshot victim to get no benefits if they make a full recovery with no lasting residual effects.

Both girls will be subject to follow-on examination at which time their disability percentage can be raised or lowered, depending on their medical progress.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 12:50 PM
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51. I haven't been through the disability process, but I have been in the...
...military. IMHO, this whole story stinks, and the silence coming from the direction of the Army and the Bushies on this topic is deafening.

If you want to wait a while before making the charge of "racism", or never making that charge at all, that's your absolute right to do so. However, when someone else offers their opinion that the Army appears to be using polocies based on racism, that's their right as well.

What I did find a little odd was your earlier response to another poster asking if that poster thought Jessica Lynch was racist. Was that just a mistaken interpretation on your part, or was it an attempt redirect the conversation?
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DemVet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 09:46 PM
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69. It was a simple..
..question because of the fact that her race was brought up and others were implying, I believe, that she didn't meet with this Iraqi lawyer because she was a racist. I don't think I misinterpreted it incorrectly when previous comments made included:

"Well, that's very white of Jessica"

"But she is a lily white little girl who was was in a car wreck"

"West Virginia, cute blond girl rescued by a dirty Muslim? Wouldn't fly, would it?"

"Can't be right. Shaushauna Johnson is only reciveing 30% she was in same army as the White Girl"

"The other ex-Pow of African_american decent. We haven't heard much from her lately. Not good-looking, not all-american type of girl, not white, eh? /sarcasm off"

As one who is married to someone not of my own race and having kids as a result of that union, my ears perk up when any charge of racism occurs, direct or implied. Am I wrong here in believing others were making a charge of racism on Jessica Lynch's part?
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 11:03 AM
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43. LOL! No, little baby jessica isn't, but the media whores seeking to profit
from her staged ordeal sure are, since her contemporary has been, as we've stated, homeless, unemployed and without medical treatment for her ordeal.

The nice little white girl gets the check for a million bucks. The black chick gets shit. It's the American Way!
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RapidCreek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 08:57 PM
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66. What?
Can you explain EXACTLY why you asked that question? I mean, you know, describe the steps, one after the other, in your train of thought, that lead you to ask it.

Do you know what equivocation is?

RC
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Astarho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 10:22 AM
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38. And if she was an Indian
Edited on Tue Oct-28-03 10:23 AM by Astarho
at least she'd get a mountain named after her.
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 07:59 AM
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10. What does Mohammed know?
Something that Jessica doesn't want the media to get hold of? The facts?

When your angel comes to town from the other side of the planet you make time.
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DarkPhenyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 08:06 AM
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13. Anyone else want to defend her as...
...a poor little girl caught in the middle of something bigger than herself?
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 08:19 AM
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16. Ahh, stardom
You understand the real story, don't you? This visit was scheduled for some time-- at least enough to reschedule her events for a few hours, if she wanted to meet with him. But this rescuer is Muslim. Can't appear with a Muslim if you want to be an American hero. She'll thank him privately, but not publicly. Wouldn't want to get dirty. Might hurt her book sales, or worse, the Army's PR cash cow.

My only question is whether that decision came from DC, or her publicist, or if there is some ingrained racism in her.

I've never felt anything particularly towards Lynch, except a bit of warmth that she was "rescued" by being checked out of a hospital without having to file the paperwork, but this is disgusting. She's so busy with the trappings of stardom earned from her rescue that she can't publicly thank one of her rescuers? The rescue to her is not about having her life saved, but about writing her book and making her money. I can't imagine someone who had been in genuine danger treating someone who had helped save her life like that.
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gbwarming Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 09:41 AM
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34. C'mon now. His story may be a complete crock. The rescue was videotaped
...for public consumption. She was being treated by doctors and there's no evidence aside from Mohammed that she was mistreated in any way. The story stunk of PR at every stage - gunshot wounds, amnesia... puhleeze.

Will y'all want to be in the photo, hugging Don Rumsfeld all grateful and teary-eyed in thanks for protecting you from Saddam's terror machine when he's on his book tour? I won't.

As for Mohammed.. He's worried about his security BUT that doesn't keep him from doing a well publicized book tour taking job with a Republican lobbying firm in DC. There may be an opportunist in this picture but is doesn't look to me like it's Pvt. Lynch.
http://msnbc.com/news/985474.asp
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 10:47 AM
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41. IMHO, the fact that Lynch and her family CHOSE to take the book deal...
...and the movie deal, and the 80% disability package, along with the award of the Bronze Star for conspicuous UNCONSCIOUSNESS above and beyond the call of duty, tells me that the Lynch family is as much an OPPORTUNIST as the Iraqi may be.
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 01:19 PM
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52. Sheeee-it, Jim Bob! You ought to know that the acquisition of wealth
IS patriotism in the new America.

New American Rule #1759A: If it was done to make money, it is a saintly endeavor no matter what crimes are commited in the acquisition.

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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 11:16 AM
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45. When SHE disclaims the military's story, then I'll clear her
Until then, she's spreading the story, too, and either she's an opportunistic liar or she's ungrateful to someone who helped save her life.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 08:31 AM
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19. Wonder if the lawyer would like to rewrite any parts of the book now? n/t
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Say_What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 09:35 AM
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29. PR Specialist of Debunked Gulf War Incubator Story Promotes New Book
The story about this new book was on Democracy Now!! last week and someone posted it in GD, where it, unfortunately, died a quick death.

<clips>

PR Specialist of Debunked Persian Gulf War Incubator Story Promotes New Book on Lynch "Rescue"

“Expect lots of media hype soon over the first Jessica Lynch-related book by Iraqi Mohammed Odeh al-Rehaief. According to some reports he told U.S. Marines the location of the captured Private Lynch. He and his family were then granted U.S. asylum. Along with the chance for U.S. citizenship, al-Rehaief received $300,000 from Rupert Murdoch's Harper Collins for his new book about the Lynch rescue. He also was given a job at the Livingston Group, a high-powered D.C. lobby firm. His book "Because Each Life Is Precious: Why an Iraqi Man Came to Risk Everything for Pvt. Jessica Lynch" is being promoted by his Livingston Group colleague Lauri Fitz-Pegado. She is infamous for her work at Hill & Knowlton PR in 1990 coaching the Kuwaiti girl called "Nayirah" in her shocking but phony testimony on Congressional hill that she'd seen Iraqi soldiers murdering Kuwaiti babies. That stunt helped propel the U.S. to war against Iraq in 1991. Fitz-Pegado's client was the ruling family of Kuwait and the baby-killing claims were later shown to be false. The new book is well timed since it will precede by a few weeks Jessica Lynch's own book, half-a-million copies of which will hit bookstores on Veterans Day, November 11th.”

* John Stauber, co-founder of PR Watch and co-author of the book, Weapons of Mass Deception: The Uses of Propaganda in Bush’s War on Iraq. which takes a look at how the Bush administration’s highly successful public relations campaign sold the Iraqi war to the American public.

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=03/10/17/1530239




See PR Watch Spin of the Day for Wednesday, October 15, 2003 for more information mentioned in the Democracy Now! clip.

http://www.prwatch.org/spin/index.html

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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 09:38 AM
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31. So the American moral of the story: 'Money is worth more than life'.
Edited on Tue Oct-28-03 09:42 AM by dArKeR
I can't believe Jessica does this!

If the published Media Whore story, of the rescue, is correct, in my opinion, this is disgraceful.
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Say_What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 09:52 AM
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37. SPIN OF THE DAY: "Nayirah" Handler Hypes Iraqi's Book on Lynch Rescue
<clips>

“Expect lots of media hype soon over the first Jessica Lynch-related book by Iraqi Mohammed Odeh al-Rehaief. According to some reports he told U.S. Marines the location of the captured Private Lynch. He and his family were then granted U.S. asylum. Along with the chance for U.S. citizenship, al-Rehaief received $300,000 from Rupert Murdoch's Harper Collins for his new book about the Lynch rescue. He also was given a job at the Livingston Group, a high-powered D.C. lobby firm. His book "Because Each Life Is Precious: Why an Iraqi Man Came to Risk Everything for Pvt. Jessica Lynch" is being promoted by his Livingston Group colleague Lauri Fitz-Pegado. She is infamous for her work at Hill & Knowlton PR in 1990 coaching the Kuwaiti girl called "Nayirah" in her shocking but phony testimony on Congressional hill that she'd seen Iraqi soldiers murdering Kuwaiti babies. That stunt helped propel the U.S. to war against Iraq in 1991. Fitz-Pegado's client was the ruling family of Kuwait and the baby-killing claims were later shown to be false. The new book is well timed since it will precede by a few weeks Jessica Lynch's own book, half-a-million copies of which will hit bookstores on Veterans Day, November 11th.”

* John Stauber, co-founder of PR Watch and co-author of the book, Weapons of Mass Deception: The Uses of Propaganda in Bush’s War on Iraq. which takes a look at how the Bush administration’s highly successful public relations campaign sold the Iraqi war to the American public.

To purchase an audio or video copy of this entire program, call 1 (800) 881-2359.

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=03/10/17/1530239

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ohiosmith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 11:03 AM
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44. Ungrateful bitch.
Nuff said!
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 11:26 AM
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46. That's uncalled for
:thumbsdown:
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ohiosmith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 11:48 AM
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48. No it's not,
she's being pimped by the government, her family, lawyers, and media like a cheap whore and is obviously focused on what's important....the money.
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 12:14 PM
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49. I agree, inappropriate (n/t)
.
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Mushroom Donating Member (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 03:20 PM
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58. oh my goodness
a woman called a bitch because she didn't measure up to standards you don't seem to live by.

oh dear.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 01:19 PM
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53. I'm sure he'll have an accident...
and die like the rest. She snubed him because they can't risk the real story surfacing.
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ohiosmith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 03:15 PM
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56. Don't be surprised
if she meets with a fatal accident, overdoses on pain killers or commits suicide.
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Logansquare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 01:45 PM
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54. His story is dubious
After the fall of the regime, her doctors had no reason to lie about whether she was interrogated by Iraqi security.

"What troubles the staff in Nasiriya most are reports that Lynch was abused while in their case. All vehemently deny it.

Told of the allegation through an interpreter, nurse Shinah wells up with tears. Gathering herself, she responds quietly: 'This is a lie. But why ask me? Why don't you ask Jessica what kind of treatment she received?'"

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0504-05.htm
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 02:40 PM
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55. Anyone remember the hospital staff had TRIED to take her to the Americans?
(snip) Ambulance Attempts Return of Pvt. Lynch; Americans Open Fire
There was one more twist. Two days before the snatch squad arrived, Harith had already arranged to deliver Jessica to the Americans in an ambulance. But as the ambulance, with Private Lynch inside, approached a checkpoint American troops opened fire, forcing it to flee back to the hospital. The Americans had almost killed their prize catch. (snip/...)
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/savingpvtlynchdisinfo17may03.shtml


(snip) Today's L.A. Times has a story on Jessica Lynch's return home from the hospital after her experiences as a prisoner of war in Iraq. It contains the following sentence:

The BBC reported that the hospital staff actually tried to return Lynch to American forces two days before the hospital was stormed, but that their vehicle came under heavy fire from American troops.


The BBC did report this, and papers the world over echoed it, and the L.A. Times is still printing it as the truth, even though a New York Times reporter named Nicholas Kristof subsequently reported that the actual ambulance ride may have been something very different, part of a plan to assassinate Lynch and blame it on heavy fire from American troops. Of course, the L.A. Times may never have seen Kristof's revelation, since he buried it, as if it were unimportant, deep in an anti-Pentagon diatribe. (snip/....)
http://idleryet.blog-city.com/read/151290.htm


(snip) The hospital's staff contends the Americans could have retrieved Lynch without the show of force.

A day before Iraqi troops left the hospital, doctors said, the staff received instructions from Nasiriyah's governor, Younis Ahmed al-Thareb, to transfer Lynch to the Maternity and Children's Hospital on the other side of the Euphrates River, where American forces were in control.

The governor told them it was for her own safety because he feared the Americans might attack the hospital because Iraqi soldiers were there, al-Jabbar and others said.

But they also said they didn't try to notify U.S. troops of their intention. They said an ambulance carrying Lynch set out at 11:45 p.m., but as it approached the al-Zaytoun Bridge in the darkness it was fired on by American troops and the driver sped back to the hospital.

"The next day, we decided to put her on a donkey cart so she would be in open view of the U.S. soldiers," said Dr. Miqdad al-Khazaei.

But before they could do that, Iraqi forces _ including the regional commander of the Baath Party, Adel Abdallah al-Doori, and the governor _ began pulling out of the hospital and the city, al-Khazaei said. "By noon, they were all gone," he said.

Hours later, the Americans arrived. (snip/...)
http://www.msnbc.com/local/arkcity/m299507.asp?cp1=1

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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 05:02 PM
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60. Jessica is NOT part of the spin...nor is her family
Remember how they did not participate in the movie...and how her father vociferously reported that she had NOT been shot or stabbed, AFTER the govt kept saying she had.. Remember how we did not see Dad after that?? Also, she had been in the hospital for DAYS before her family was even "allowed" to talk to her... Remember the live shot of a soldier wounded in Iraq,MINUTES earlier, as he WAS IN THE PHONE TO HIS MOM??

Jessica must tread carefully, because her future healthcare is somehow involved here.. I have the feeling that if she "speaks out of turn, they will make her life miserable... This is her way of flipping them the bird.. IMHO..


ps.. Washington Post did a brilliant series called Ward 57...and one little snippet that caught my eye, was how the guys & women all got to know each other while in rehab at Walter Reed, EXCEPT for Jessica, who was "kept in her room and had armed guards by the door"... WHY WOULD SHE NEED ARMED GUARDS AT WALTER REED????
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 05:11 PM
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61. Probably scared to death a reporter might find a way to "bust" through
and get that one unguarded interview.

They can't keep her incommunicado the rest of her life, and it wouldn't be prudent to leave her running around where she might just unburden herself to anyone. The remaining choices are somewhat limited.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 05:45 PM
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62. I found the link from the Washington Post article
The famous POW, Pfc. Jessica Lynch, is in a private room at the end of a hallway on 57, with a military police officer seated outside her door. In the rest of the ward, doors are open, visitors flowing in and out. All day long, soldiers buzz the intercom at the nurse's station.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A20666-2003Jul20¬Found=true
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 09:54 PM
Response to Reply #62
70. Thank you for posting this
Interesting that they used guards to keep other GIs from talking to her. Why?
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leetrisck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 05:56 PM
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64. Secret Service all around her the day she
was brought into DC. Remember? Also, I'm assuming Lynch and Johnson will both receive $1,000 extra per month (& other POW's) for having been a POW. It was just increased to $1,000. All POW's get it regardless of whether you were a POW for 10 years or 10 days - at least that is the way it is worded. Ms. Johnson will have to appeal her disability rating - it takes years - you are shuffled all over the country for different tests, etc. Not like you can run down the street to the local hospital.
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 05:49 PM
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63. Damn her...
...after the awesome performance al-Rehaief gave, and not even an Oscar nod for him! The least she could do is hook up and buy him dinner at Denny's...
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 08:50 PM
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65. Denny's doesn't serve people of color
as many lawsuits have shown...
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