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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 08:42 AM
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Proposed shutdown of VA hospitals sparks torrent of protests
CANANDAIGUA, N.Y., Oct. 27 — Once a week, Frank Woods meets up with a dozen fellow World War II veterans to exorcise the nightmares and other chilling aftereffects of battles they fought more than a half-century ago.

''It really helps when you've got somebody to talk to,'' said Woods, 79, leaning on a cane in a courtyard at the Veterans Affairs hospital in this lake-shore town in western New York.

The 70-year-old hospital, which sits on 170 acres of tranquil parkland on the edge of open country, is one of seven around the country that could be closed as the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs looks for ways to streamline its $26 billion health care network.

That threat drew more than 1,500 protesters, many in uniform, to a boisterous hearing last week before a federal commission charged with overseeing the biggest overhaul of the VA system since the end of World War II.


http://famulus.msnbc.com/famulusgen/ap10-27-232429.asp?t=apnew&vts=102820030528
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 08:47 AM
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1. good on them
170 acres of "tranquil parkland"--hmm sounds like they are blocking progress--are "old and in the way" how many new homes--or malls--how much money to be made on real estate /construction ventures?
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iam Donating Member (453 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 08:48 AM
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2. Troops?
Now that's what I call supporting the troops.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 08:52 AM
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4. Hey they are only "streamlining"
a promis is a promise.

Hillary is on it though.

Welcome to DU :hi: iam
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dreissig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 11:20 AM
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8. Hillary is On It
Oh, yes. That should make everyone feel better. Things are in good hands. Hillary is on it.

Give me a break, willya?
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davhill Donating Member (854 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 08:51 AM
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3. This may seem to cortradict the Neo-con strategy
But in the long run it really doesn't. The concept is not to have a lot of expensive American citizens fighting the wars of the New American Century. It is to hire cheap soldiers from third world countries to fight as mercenaries. They will receive no veterans benifits. The object is to have Americans become the master class, living off of investments and the rest of the world supplying the labor. The last time something like this was tried, in the Roman Empire, the world was plunged into the dark ages.
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pw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 09:10 AM
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5. In the minds of the PNAC folks
Anyone poor enough to join the military and get wounded isn't a Real American. Only property-owners are real to them.
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7th_Sephiroth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 09:42 AM
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6. yeah
it sickens me
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Snow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 12:57 PM
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10. "The world was plunged into the dark ages"
Actually, Asia was doing very well, thank you. A flourishing culture, arts, poetry - esp China & Korea. Very civilized time. But you have a goodp oint about mercenary armies. Isn't that what came against the American colonies in the 1770's?
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 10:55 AM
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7. The BFEE and PNAC bunch have the Leona Helmsley mentality
the little people are meaningless to them...
Well, you gilded-caged assholes, harken back to what happened to King Louis and Marie Antoinette, and remember what happened to the Tsar in Russia..
dont f*ck with the people. They will rise up everytime.
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-03 12:26 PM
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9. Oh, but we'll never do that
because we're a nation of laaawwwws and oooorrrrder.

Terra! Terra! Freedom! Terra! Wor! Wor! (sic)

:puke:
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