Breaking: WH Confirms it produced the USS Lincoln's "MA" Banner

[stopbush]

Just saw it on Buchannan & Press. Press held up a press reelease from the WH stating that the WH DID, in fact, produce the fuckin banner that flew behind El Lame-o on the Lincoln.

A lie that didn't even last 4 hours.

[Cha]

1. Did bush say the lie that

they didn't have anything to do with it?

[Jacobin]

7. Big time

He said: "some people think my advance people put up the banner. They aren't that ingenious." Very specific lie. Completely denied it and said the ship put it up.

Lying MoFo can't take responsibility even for a fricking banner

[wryter2000]

10. Here ya go

The "Mission Accomplished" sign, of course, was put up by the members of the USS Abraham Lincoln saying that their mission was accomplished. I know it was attributed somehow to some ingenious advance man from staff. They weren't that ingenious, by the way.

I don't think he can weasel out of this one. Besides, if he IS taking credit for the banner now, he has to live with THAT fact.

[donotpassgo]

2. He didn't lie...

he said the troops 'put up' the banner, meaning they only hung it. What a crock of shit.

[wryter2000]

3. Wow!

Pants on fire. Busted. He's toast!!!!

[Ksec]

5. LMAO

I watched him today tell that lie. What a fraud this dude is..

[davekriss]

20. Bush is a Confabulist

A confabulist: Someone who fills gaps in memory with fantasy all the while believing the fantasy to be true. And Bush has some yawning gaps to fill!

[TacticalPeek]

28. Probably caught it from Raygun.

[Tuttle]

4. great news

what a bunch of losers!

(memo to freeper lurkers: that is the correct spelling of what you guys spell as "loosers")

Tut-tut

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

6. Too bad he didn't stick his dick in the banner

then it would matter to the American people. (you know those intelligent rocket scientists that voted for him and continue to believe him that we can't call stupid because then they will be assholes and alienated)

[MO_Dem]

19. Hmmmm, so now we know

why he had that big ole jock strap on!

[TacticalPeek]

29. ROFLMAO!

:toast:

[snippy]

30. Bush is all bulge and no bone.

[lefty_mcduff]

8. Bush credo - "Buck stops anywhere BUT here"

n/t

[Endangered Specie]

13. How'd Press find out about that?

Was it from another 'unidentified white house official'

Hehehe if it was, betcha Bush will REALLY start to crack down on them leaks, now that theyve REALLY made him look stupid. Wouldnt hurt to shut that busted open lying pipe known as his mouth

[dArKeR]

9. The Media Whores keep quoting 'polls', Americans think Bush is honest

above all.

I heard Aaron Brown say this yesterday and David Gergen agreed.

http://democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=604142

We need to adopt a strategy. We can't run our heads against a brick wall even if we all know he's a liar. If this is indeed true, poll, we must change tact to accept and not fight it too much. We should go for publishing Bush is incompetent

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[phirili]

11. Repugs should stop Bush from giving press conference

as he mucks up all the smooth lies his senior staff

[stopbush]

14. This was only his TENTH press conference in 2 years, 9 months.

How much less can he be expected to answer to the people he suppossedly serves (ie: us)?

[diamond14]

12. video and transcript of todays pResidential remarks (link)

-snips-

Nora.

Q Mr. President, if I may take you back to May 1st when you stood on the USS Lincoln under a huge banner that said, "Mission Accomplished." At that time you declared major combat operations were over, but since that time there have been over 1,000 wounded, many of them amputees who are recovering at Walter Reed, 217 killed in action since that date. Will you acknowledge now that you were premature in making those remarks?

THE PRESIDENT: Nora, I think you ought to look at my speech. I said, Iraq is a dangerous place and we've still got hard work to do, there's still more to be done. And we had just come off a very successful military operation. I was there to thank the troops.

The "Mission Accomplished" sign, of course, was put up by the members of the USS Abraham Lincoln, saying that their mission was accomplished. I know it was attributed some how to some ingenious advance man from my staff -- they weren't that ingenious, by the way. But my statement was a clear statement, basically recognizing that this phase of the war for Iraq was over and there was a lot of dangerous work. And it's proved to be right, it is dangerous in Iraq. It's dangerous in Iraq because there are people who can't stand the thought of a free and peaceful Iraq. It is dangerous in Iraq because there are some who believe that we're soft, that the will of the United States can be shaken by suiciders -- and suiciders who are willing to drive up to a Red Cross center, a center of international help and aid and comfort, and just kill.

It's the same mentality, by the way, that attacked us on September the 11th, 2001: we'll just destroy innocent life and watch the great United States and their friends and allies crater in the face of hardship. It's the exact same mentality. And Iraq is a part of the war on terror. I said it's a central front, a new front in the war on terror, and that's exactly what it is. And that's why it's important for us to be tough and strong and diligent.

Our strategy in Iraq is to have strike forces ready and capable to move quickly as we gather actionable intelligence. That's how you deal with terrorists. Remember, these are people that are willing to hide in societies and kill randomly. And therefore, the best way to deal with them is to harden targets, harden assets as best as you can. That means blockades and inspection spots. And, as you notice, yesterday, one fellow tried to -- was done in as a he tried to conduct a suicide mission. In other words, an Iraqi policemen did their job.

But, as well, that we've got to make sure that not only do we harden targets, but that we get actionable intelligence to intercept the missions before they begin. That means more Iraqis involved in the intelligence-gathering systems in their country so that they are active participants in securing the country from further harm.

Remember, the action in Iraq was -- to get rid of Saddam Hussein was widely supported by the Iraqi people. And the action -- the actions that we're taking to improve their country are supported by the Iraqi people. And it's going to be very important for the Iraqi people to play an active role in fighting off the few who are trying to destroy the hopes of the many. You've heard me say that before. That's just kind of the motto of the terrorists. It's the way they operate.


http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/10/20031028-2.html

[Rose Siding]

15. Nora O asked point blank

Do you think she knew the spin he'd been fed/absorbed/hallucinated?

It didn't sound like your average convivial WH press corp when it was asked.

[fishnfla]

26. "suiciders" (?) any more of this crap and I'm one!

is this a word?

[TacticalPeek]

32. Like suicidee, one and the same.

[frank frankly]

16. damn--this one will stick in the sheeples minds

maybe enough to make them the people again! wake up, America!!!

[Endangered Specie]

18. bush should really stop doing press confrences

he really makes a complete fool out of himself. its these little glimpses that let us take a peak at what he really thinks is going on. Lights on but nobody home

[Greyskye]

24. You mean he hasn't already?

Averaging 1 press conference every 3.3 months has got to be the fewest in modern history! Anyone know a way of counting them up for past presidencies?

[dusty64]

25. Yeah, but only if the

whore media would report it. I'm not willing to bet that they will, now if it were a Democrat ..............................

[phirili]

21. Nora burnt Bush bigtime. Took a woman

to mention deaths and amputees in Iraq when questioning Shrub/Ashes.

[Neecy]

22. Lying sack o'crap

I wonder if anyone other than Press will cover this ridiculous whopper?

Never mind. I know the answer to that.

[liberalmuse]

23. As I remember, 'Liberals' <spat out>...

were blamed for distorting the truth on this matter. If there was a god, the fires of hell would open up and swallow the White House whole--and then puke its contents back up.

[snippy]

27. The DNC needs to start running President Pinocchio ads.

[barbaraann]

31. Bannergate!!!!!

It sure is getting a lot of coverage on the cable news channels.

[VolcanoJen]

33. LBN Rules... locking

font color = red]ON EDIT: One part of this story has now been verified (with link) by DU user party_line, in the following LBN Thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=188592

Please feel free to continue discussion of this issue there. Thank you, stopbush, for initially breaking this story in the LBN Forum.

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As there is no link to verify this story (I did see it myself and concur with your opinion, for what it's worth), and since a transcript isn't yet available, it's best to lock this LBN thread for the time being.

Please feel free to add your comments about the Buchanan & Press show in the existing LBN thread about Bush disavowing the "Mission Accomplished" Banner, which can be found here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=188402&mesg_id=188402

You could also start a new discussion about the B&P show in the General Discussion forum.

Thanks!
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[Malva Zebrina]

34. disgusting coward of a little man

pretending to be a president. Looks like Wesley Clark hit the button right on with his released commentary on this lie. How can anyone, including the vowed military, ever support this pathetic little man whose only recourse when faced with his own errors is to blame someone else like the coward he is--and this time he put the blame on the troops and the military--he, in his arrogance, expects these military people to cover up for him even though they have to come off looking like idiots--they must not only put their lives in jeapardy for this coward,but they must also absorb the resonsibility for his lies, for their incompetent dumbassed Commander in Chief.