GOP unity is strained by attacks (Lott: "Just mow the whole place down")

[Barrett808]

Senior Republicans have begun raising concerns about the administration’s strategy in Iraq amid daily attacks on U.S. forces there.

But congressional Republicans still echo President Bush’s overall positive assessment of reconstruction, even as some warn of political trouble unless signs of improvement become clearer fast.

Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), who recently compared aspects of the conflict to Vietnam, yesterday said U.S. forces need to be more proactive.

“To set up roadblocks after the bomb goes off is not the answer,” he said. “We’ve got to get into prevention.”

...

Asked whether he favored any policy changes in Iraq, Sen. Trent Lott (R-Miss.) responded: “We need to have a different mix of troops, is the key. We may need to move some troops around.”

Lott suggested moving more troops from the relatively stable south closer to the region around Tikrit, where attacks on U.S. forces have been common. He said there was a need for more trained military police, adding that his comments were not a criticism.

“Honestly, it’s a little tougher than I thought it was going to be,” Lott said. In a sign of frustration, he offered an unorthodox military solution: “If we have to, we just mow the whole place down, see what happens. You’re dealing with insane suicide bombers who are killing our people, and we need to be very aggressive in taking them out.”

(more)

http://www.thehill.com/news/102903/gopunity.aspx

(on edit: added link)

[T Roosevelt]

1. Military advice from someone who avoided service

oh wait...that's right - this whole Iraq fiasco is being run by people who avoided service. Lott should just sit the f down and shut the f up.

[bigwoody]

26. Exactly. "Hi, my name is Trent Lott and I'm a giant, southern-fried PUSS!

:puke:

[Dr Fate]

61. FACT: Lott was a Male Cheerleader at Ol' Miss during Vietnam

While many young men (many minorities, for that matter) were holding M-16s, this "patriot" was holding Confederate Flag pom-poms!!!!

[saigon68]

72. Ah Yes, -- a FINE SOUTHERN GENTLEMAN

With impecable prejudices. I'm sure he comes from a "FINE" class of people.

He was too high class to employ a sheet and a hood--- that was someone else's job.

[E_Zapata]

2. Mow the place down??????????????????????

Okay, this statement has got to raise the ire of any sentient being. It has to.

He isn't going to get away with saying that, is he???????

Those damn iraqis didn't handle their occupation right - time to nuke the whole region, folks!

[samsingh]

8. i find lotts statement to

be very offensive and a window into the way repugs think.

[w13rd0]

20. Lott calls it a policy of...

..."aggressive liberation"...

[goforit]

37. Sounds like Trent Lott is talking about Ethnic Cleansing!!!

Hmmmmm...........

He needs to look in the mirror and see just what it would be
like if people like him were "agressively Liberated" Or
better yet if he and his kind were "mowed over".

[Cronus Protagonist]

56. but but but he supports affirmative action! (pic)

In fact, he's almost black himself!



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[Guaranteed]

48. I liked the "let's see what happens" part.

As in "I wonder what happens if I put a cat in a microwave. I mean, I know what's going to happen, but, just to make sure...."
Absolutely disgusting.

[Mika]

63. Bill Frist might know

As in "I wonder what happens if I put a cat in a microwave. I mean, I know what's going to happen, but, just to make sure...."


Lott could just ask Bill Frist about that cat experiment.

[progressiverealist]

3. wow the Hair Helmet wants to "mow the place down."

That should win those hearts and minds. Didn't we try that in Vietnam, when we de-foliated the jungles and flew B-52's over the north?

Didn't work so well, it seems.

[joeunderdog]

43. I thought we WERE mowing the place down. A policy change now?

We have taken the law into our own hands, we don't investigate or count civilian deaths, we have thrown the Geneva Convention Regs in the shredder and we are looting the assets of the unarmed country we attacked.

Everything is going according to plan...

[tridim]

4. Link?

Lott's comments are insane, he should be in a mental institution or federal prison if he really believes what he said. The problem is, the Dittoheads all agree with this method of creating peace. Nuke em, and let god sort it out, then steal their resources.

[Barrett808]

6. Got it in there, now

Good stuff, eh?

[KoKo]

5. Oh I get it! If they refuse to be "liberated" by God we'll just "Mow the

place down!"

Lott should be thrown out of the Senate entirely for this remark. This goes against everything the Repugs claimed about "Liberating Iraq" from an Evil dictator with WMD.

The object wasn't to "harm the Iraqi people" we were told but to give them "Democracy."

Now a former Speaker of the Senate says "Mow it Down?" I hope the "powers" that blew Lott out of his former position of power will now go after him to make sure he's booted out.

[0007]

21. By God!, Boykin thinks there's something

to what Trent Lott is saying. How else we gonna win this thingy, or what ever one wants to call this cluster fuck.

[Bozita]

7. Keep Lott's quote alive. Send it to media folks. Get this on the airwaves.

Lott sounds like something from "Dr. Strangelove."

[Bozita]

17. I sent this to Mike Malloy and Thom Hartmann

[Bozita]

23. sent to Randi Rhodes - Anybody got email addies for TV folk like Begala...

...and Olbermann?

[Barrett808]

25. Sent to Michael Moore's news page

hope he posts it

[grytpype]

9. "Kill them all. God will know his own."

[goforit]

38. Supremacy at it's finest!!

Hitler still lives!!!

[Ripley]

10. Mow the whole place down, see what happens. ??

Well can you say major combat is back on?

I don't think Russia and Iran will just casually sit on the sidelines if that happens.

[gasperc]

11. Let's give Lott a command and send him over

let's sign a draft petition to send Lott over to "mow the place down."

I____________ request that Senator Lott be sent immediately over to Iraq to, in his own words, "mow the place down". Mr. Lott would bring the appropriate aggressiveness needed to stop "insane suicide bombers who are killing our people," Only Senator Lott uderstands the situation in Iraq, so it would be in America's best interest that Senator go to Iraq immediately and clean it up.

Respectly,


Patriotic American Citizen


Can I get someone to get the Draft Lott to go to Iraq website?

:kick:

[Barrett808]

15. This would make a spanking fine petition at petition.org

"Draft Lott" -- I like it.

[RebelOne]

27. Well, get it started. I'll sign.

[Barrett808]

33. Okay, how's this?

On 29 October 2003, Sen. Trent Lott (R-Miss.) is reported to have suggested his final solution to the Iraq problem:

"We need to have a different mix of troops, is the key. We may need to move some troops around. Honestly, it’s a little tougher than I thought it was going to be. If we have to, we just mow the whole place down, see what happens. You’re dealing with insane suicide bombers who are killing our people, and we need to be very aggressive in taking them out." ("GOP unity is strained by attacks", By Geoff Earle, http://www.thehill.com/news/102903/gopunity.aspx)

We request that Senator Lott be sent immediately to Iraq to, in his own words, "mow the place down". Mr. Lott would bring the appropriate aggressiveness needed to stop "insane suicide bombers who are killing our people." It is clear that only Senator Lott uderstands the situation in Iraq, so it would be in America's best interest that the Senator go to Iraq immediately and clean it up.

We note that Senator Lott declined military service when when he had the opportunity ("Chickenhawk Database", http://www.nhgazette.com/cgi-bin/NHGstore.cgi?user_action=list&category=%20NEWS%3B%20Chickenhawks), but with a few weeks of modern Army training, he should be prepared to patrol the streets of Fallujah and start mowing with gusto.

Sincerely, The Undersigned

[Barrett808]

55. SEND LOTT PETITION IS UP

http://www.petitiononline.com/SendLott/petition.html

To: Senate of the United States of America

On 29 October 2003, Sen. Trent Lott (R-Miss.) is reported to have suggested his final solution to the Iraq problem:

"We need to have a different mix of troops, is the key. We may need to move some troops around. Honestly, it’s a little tougher than I thought it was going to be. If we have to, we just mow the whole place down, see what happens. You’re dealing with insane suicide bombers who are killing our people, and we need to be very aggressive in taking them out." ("GOP unity is strained by attacks", by Geoff Earle, http://www.thehill.com/news/102903/gopunity.aspx)

We request that Senator Lott be sent immediately to Iraq to, in his own words, "mow the place down". Mr. Lott would bring the appropriate aggressiveness needed to stop "insane suicide bombers who are killing our people." It is clear that only Senator Lott uderstands the situation in Iraq, so it would be in America's best interest that the Senator go to Iraq immediately and clean it up.

We note that Senator Lott declined military service when he had the opportunity ("Chickenhawk Database", http://www.nhgazette.com/cgi-bin/NHGstore.cgi?user_action=list&category=%20NEWS%3B%20Chickenhawks), but with a few weeks of modern Army training, he should be prepared to patrol the streets of Fallujah and start mowing with gusto.


Sincerely,

The Undersigned

(Thanks to gasperc for the second paragraph and the inspiration.)

[mbperrin]

64. I signed!

Every one of those chickenhawks that go means we bring back 20,000 real soldiers, right?

[Barrett808]

74. Petition is up to 69 signatures

Keep on signing!

http://www.petitiononline.com/SendLott/petition.html

[Orrin_73]

76. Signed the petition

"Dont be a pussy Trent be a man and join the troops"

[Tommy_Douglas]

18. Lott and only Lott...

Can take out these damn "suiciders"...

[sendero]

51. Beautiful :) n/t

[zbdent]

12. Genocide 101. Oh, and by the way, Bush told you before -

it's "homicide bombers".

These people can't even remember their own rhetoric.

[City Lights]

29. It used to be "homicide bombers."

As of yesterday, it's "suiciders." ;-)

[coldwatercyn]

44. Condi better "unstick" this!!!!

[phillybri]

13. Kick

:kick:

[Sagan]

14. typical freeper sentiments..

It's all about talking in broad, emotionally-charged terms with no perception of the reality, and no real thought on how to make what is said to happen.


"We need to get those terrahists!"

Yeah, but how?

"Mow the place down!"

What does that entail, exactly? Are you talking about razing Baghdad? Nuclear weapons? What?

"uuhhhhhhhhh.....9/11! 9/11!"

[arcane1]

16. "mow the whole place down"- for the good of the Iraqi people

so much for liberating those poor Iraqis, who had drummed up such agonizing sentiment...

so, are they STILL better off without Saddam???


ya know, many repubes are sure to be glad for these remarks. I imagine many are angry at bush for putting them in a position where they have to pretend to give a shit about brown people. Now we are seeing their progression from poor oppressed people we should care for, to raving vermin we should destroy

the freeps will be glad to finally be able to say it

[Aristus]

19. It's official: We are definitely back in Vietnam!

It's LeMay's "Bomb them back to the Stone Age", and Cam Ne, the village they had to "destroy to save", all over again.

[Old and In the Way]

22. Spoken like a true pansy-ass cheerleader-chickenhawk

Hell of a solution from the Reoublican braintrust....kind of defeats the whole idea of liberation, doesn't it, Trent?

Thanks, I'm sure that will help the troops by making the middle/moderates in Iraq wonder what this is government's true plans are for Iraq.

Another example of the adults being in charge. How friggen' pathetic.

[Swede]

24. Inside every Iraqi is an American just dying to get out.

[salin]

28. geez Trent... why not just tell them to "Bring it On!"

Just up the inflamatory ante. Smart move when it isn't your spine about to take potshots from a sniper, inflamed by rhetoric and perhaps believing that if they don't act quickly to discourage the Americans on the ground that the US leadership will let loose with more shock and awe. Sheer irresponsibleness from the former maj. leader.

[Say_What]

30. GOP sounds pretty desperate to me....

Reminds me of Vietnam....

From a PBS documentary VIETNAM: A Television History LBJ Goes to War (1964-1965) (Transcript)
:

<clips>

NARRATOR

To the Communists in Hanoi, America's presence in the South was yet another act of foreign aggression. They recalled 1,000 years of struggle against foreign invaders: Chinese, Japanese, French. And now they faced Americans.

NARRATOR

Ho Chi Minh stepped up his support for the Vietcong at the same time Johnson renewed the American commitment to defeat them. Each responded to the chaos in the South with new resolve.

...SENATOR WAYNE MORSE

Being in the minority never proves that you're wrong. In fact, history is going to record that Sen. Greuning and I voted in the interest of the American people this morning when we voted against this resolution.

And I'd have the American people remember what this resolution really is. It's a resolution which seeks to give the President of the United States the power to make war without a declaration of war.

NARRATOR

Lyndon Johnson signed into law the Tonkin Gulf Resolution. Congress gave the President full authority for military action in Southeast Asia. Backed by both political parties, Johnson had removed the war as an issue from the campaign.


http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/vietnam/104ts.html

[Rowdyboy]

31. Bush Lott in 2004!

The Mouths that Roar!

[DivinBreuvage]

32. The stupidest thing about this theory...

apart from its utter violation of every principle America is supposed to stand for, is the plain fact that IT JUST DOESN'T WORK.

It didn't work for Napoleon in Spain, it didn't work for Hitler in Europe, and it's not working for Putin in Chechnya. After four years the Russians are still suffering daily attacks, with 8 killed and 5 wounded in the past 24 hours: http://www.azdailysun.com/non_sec/nav_includes/story.cfm?storyID=75790

There are too few American soldiers and too many Iraqis who have too many weapons and too many places to hide. I don't see any way around it short of using a nuclear bomb or some other terrible weapon of mass destruction that would annihilate every living thing in the targeted zone.

On the other hand, no one can deny that it would be a most beautiful and fitting capstone to Trent Lott's career to make American soldiers more brutal than the Nazis. Doesn't the mere thought make your heart beat with pride?

Then there's the sheer criminality of it, which would get the nasty ole cracker hanged if there were a nation or coalition of nations that was strong enough to impose its will on us.

Françoise

[Say_What]

35. Nam didn't work either, and the WMD--we did that to Japan

and that didn't win us any prizes. 250,000 people in Nagasaki and Heroshima wiped out in with the drop of two bombs. That count doesn't even begin to touch the long term effects of what we did to them. There's also the matter of genocide against millions of Native Americans right here at home. :puke:

and the Nazi thing--Gitmo is the closest thing so far and I don't doubt for a second that some of these soldiers are as brutal as the Nazis--our history around the world proves that. :puke:

[ElementaryPenguin]

34. Makes good sense to me. Kill everyone in the place to liberate them!

That's the price you have to pay for freedom, you know. Hilter was undoubtely one of history's most prolific liberators according to Herr Lott!

[Say_What]

40. Helen Thomas: "What are you gonna do, bomb them into democracy?"

She's beautiful!! and then that f*ck'n Ari threatened her.

Here's the transcript:

" MR. FLEISCHER: I hope -- (laughter) -- at the same time. No, the President, of course, believes that democracy can spread to Iraq. Why shouldn't it? Democracy is not boxed in. Democracy doesn't live in limits. Democracy, as the President says, is God's gift to the world. Liberty does not come from America. Liberty is a naturally endowed right that comes from the Creator, according to our own Declaration of Independence. There is no reason in the world that the President does not think that democracy can spread. And the President does believe that the people of Iraq are fully capable of living under a democratic way of life. Of course, they are.

Q Then why are you going to bomb them? (Laughter.) I mean, how do you bomb people back to democracy? This is a question of conquest. They didn't ask to be liberated by the United States. This is our self-imposed political solution for them.

MR. FLEISCHER: Let me guess that you will not be at the speech tonight. Helen, the President is going to --

Q I'll be very interested in what the President has to say because I don't think -- I think if you ask five people anywhere, what's the reason the President wants to go to war, you'll get five different answers. Usually there's one defining moment and solution.

MR. FLEISCHER: Tonight, the President is going to discuss this. I think you will hear the President tonight talk about the threat of Saddam Hussein and how he poses a danger to the American --

Q In 12 years he hasn't done anything.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/02/20030226-7.html

[Barrett808]

Fax to my senators -- any suggestions?

The Honorable Patty Murray
United States Senate
173 Russell Senate Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20510-4701
DC Phone:[phone]
DC Fax:[phone]

Dear Senator Murray,

On 29 October 2003, Sen. Trent Lott is reported to have suggested his final solution to the Iraq problem:

"We need to have a different mix of troops, is the key. We may need to move some troops around. Honestly, it’s a little tougher than I thought it was going to be. If we have to, we just mow the whole place down, see what happens. You’re dealing with insane suicide bombers who are killing our people, and we need to be very aggressive in taking them out." ("GOP unity is strained by attacks", By Geoff Earle, http://www.thehill.com/news/102903/gopunity.aspx)

This kind of reckless and violent rhetoric is what got us into the quagmire in the first place. It should not be allowed to go unanswered. Not only is such a "solution" against every principle for which this nation claims to stand, it is also impractical (as Mr. Putin is learning in Checnya). Sen. Lott should be called to account and, if necessary, censured.

Please do not allow this statement to pass unnoticed in the halls of government.

Sincerely,

Barrett808

[Bozita]

39. That's a great letter, Barrett.

Short, sweet, and very to the point.

Uuh, mind if I use it as a model to send to my reps?

[Barrett808]

41. I would be honored for people to use it as a model.

Let 'em have it!

[Zhade]

53. I used it too, thanks!

NT!

[dixiechiken]

47. You took the words right out of my mouth, Bozita ...

I was going to ask Barrett the same question!


"Uuh, mind if I use it as a model to send to my reps?"



:evilgrin:


It really is an excellent letter, Barrett! :) As was said, it's short and sweet and IMO, gets the point across very, very well.

[Barrett808]

50. Send it far and wide

And thanks for the kind words (bats eyelashes).

[leesa]

36. Brilliant. We illegally and immorally invade a non-aggressive

country...the people fight back to defend their country from our aggressions and they are "insane suicide bombers"???? This jerk needs to be in the Federal penitentiary. He is a false christian and a lunatic to boot. Get these murdering fools out of office!

[thebigidea]

42. visual aid

[robbedvoter]

45. So, that's what W was trying to say the other day when he uttered this:

"The ambassador and the general
were briefing me on the—the vast
majority of Iraqis want to live
in a peaceful, free world. And we
will find these people and we will
bring them to justice."—
Washington, D.C., Oct. 27, 2003

Thanks Trent for the translation!

[Barrett808]

46. Just called my senators

Sen. Murray's staffer laughed sadly and seemed interested, asked for the source (TheHill.com). Sen. Cantwell's staffer seemed kind of puzzled, like "Why are you telling me this?" But they both promised to pass it up to the Senators, fwiw.

[Neecy]

49. shades of Reagan

Didn't he propose in 1968 or thereabouts that North Vietnam be bombed into a 'parking lot'?

Same mentality. When the little boys who have never fought a war get frustrated, they just want to kick over the chess board.

[Zhade]

52. Advocating War Crimes?????????

Lott's on The List, too!

[Sick of Bullshit]

59. So which prominent Nazi

is Lott playing the role of?

[benfranklin1776]

54. Trent Lott-Scumball Extraordinaire

Trent would have fit in nicely as the unit commander at My Lai but of course he did not serve in Vietnam,
preferring to attend to his duties as cheerleader and chief racial enforcer in college in Mississippi. Thankfully for the lives of Vietnamese civilians he did not serve.
Obviously in Trent's world anyone who is not like himself i.e. a white, Confederate sympathizing, racist, cast reject from Deliverance should be either forcibly segregated or "mown down."

[Rex]

57. Can't wait to hear what Mike Malloy says about Lott's

'mow em down' comment.

I can already see the damage control on Lott's newest, Stalinesk,
comment:

"It was taken out of context."

"Figure of speech."

"Just jokin."

Spin spin spin...

[Barrett808]

58. Send Lott petition is up (see post #55)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=189802&mesg_id=190258&page=

[Wednesdays]

60. Let's give Trent his own lawn mower...

hell, I'll even pay for it. And he can mow Iraq down, one lawn at a time.

Oh wait, I forgot. Today was a horrid day for the Democrats. I'm supposed to be depressed.
Oh, the humanity...the humanity...

[dusty64]

62. This is bullshit, not a word

of this anywhere. The repig agenda is laid bare for all to see and the whore media says nothing. Kinda like the big lie yesterday about the "mission accomplished" banner, gone!

[coldwatercyn]

65. It's now on Drudge's

front page, finally,.

[Gman]

66. I've got a better solution

why don't we just get the fuck out of Iraq.

[argyl]

67. If we go back with our killing machines in full auto Pakistan collapses

xx

[KoKo]

68. Could someone alert this up in GD Forum. I didn't know there was action

proposed on this thread because I saw it very early today and just got back and see that folks are faxing their Senators about this. It's too late for me to deal with the Petition and Faxing, but if someone could put it in GD it would get even more action for tomorrow a.m.

[bpilgrim]

69. sounds like we are getting ready to kill millions...

again :'(

peace

[Kinkistyle]

70. Kill'em all and let God sort them out.

The "Christian" God that is, ahyuk hyuk

Disgusting barbarian pussy... :mad:

[The_Casual_Observer]

71. This is Lott's admission that they have won

It only took six months to get to this point this time. In Vietnam it took 10 years!

[dusty64]

73. Another repig outrage

ignored by the media.

[Barrett808]

75. Petition is up to 96 signatures

Keep on spreading the word!

http://www.petitiononline.com/SendLott/petition.html