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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 05:14 PM
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Kansas Minister Wants To Erect Anti-gay Monument In Idaho
(The GOP's "Big Tent" in action once again...)

Kansas Minister Wants To Erect Anti-gay Monument In Idaho

BOISE, Idaho 10.30.03

A minister known for his fiery rhetoric against homosexuals and who unsuccessfully fought to erect an anti-gay monument in Casper, Wyo., is now turning to the tiny town of Rupert, Idaho.

The Rev. Fred Phelps asked Minidoka County Commissioners this week to buy a small section of the courthouse lawn for the same monument rejected by Casper's city leaders on Tuesday.

He got the idea after learning that Rupert's local American Legion post was seeking to buy the land for a Ten Commandments monument. American Legion members hoped that by purchasing the land, they could display the biblical message without violating the separation of church and state.

"I didn't think anybody would come up with buying a 2- by 3-foot spot of the land. That's a wonderful idea," Phelps said.

Commissioners said they have not yet reviewed Phelps' request and do not know if they could legally sell a portion of the land. But their reaction to the proposed monument _ which says that a slain University of Wyoming student went to hell because he was gay _ was guarded.

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ThorsteinVeblen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 05:23 PM
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1. Fred Phelps is Awesome
He is doing more for the cause of the seperation of church and state than any liberal appeal to logic and ideals ever could. He vividly demonstrates why Government must not sanction religous opinions and highlights the reasons why a ten commandments monument on government property is not innocuous.

Go Fred!
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 05:27 PM
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4. That may be so but..
..Goddammit, I can't stomach him! Every time I read his newest trash, I just want to cry, scream, or do both.
He and his kind just...make the world seem to bleak :(
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 05:26 PM
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2. Will it be alright for
Edited on Thu Oct-30-03 05:27 PM by Ilsa
the KKK, etc., to put up some "stuff" also?

I wonder what they'd do if some nonchristian religions wanted to do the same?

Geez. When will people ever figure it out...

(You are so right, ThorsteinVeblen)
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 05:26 PM
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3. More important message?
"My message is infinitely more important than the Ten Commandments, because nobody is delivering it," Phelps said.

Hmmmm, 10 commandments, we're told, were given to Moses directly from God.
Your message......possibly pulled out of your pompous ass!
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karlschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 05:28 PM
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5. Heh...no shit. Welcome to DU!
:D
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 01:28 PM
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14. Hi 54anickel!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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number six Donating Member (244 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 05:28 PM
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6. Can he build it nearer my house
so i can come down and smash it.
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Brucey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 05:40 PM
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7. Maybe they should erect a monument to morons.
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Wwagsthedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 06:34 PM
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11. Suggested erection should be on a certain ranch in Crawford, TX
n/t
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 05:41 PM
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8. As long as he doesn't mine my proposed monument
Which will look something like my foot kicking his sorry ass into the flames of Hell while Satan smiles and says "Welcome, we've been waiting!" and Ronald Reagan, the Bush family, Pat Robertson and Shannon Daugherty peer over the big red one's shoulders.

I'm hoping to erect that monument on his face, but barring that, I'll just put it on Reagan's grave site, which I hope to desecate once in a while, anyway.

Matthew Shepard, you will notice, won't be waiting in Hell, since that is not generally where innocence is assumed to reside.
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kwolf68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 05:46 PM
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9. Christians?


They aim is to erect statues, "protect" songs and keep God on the dollar bill...

Not to actually do the things Christ ACTUALLY taught...LIKE:

Feeding the hungry, promoting peace, love...having no hate, no desire for vengeance.
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Vogon_Glory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 06:06 PM
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10. Fred Phelp's Proposed Monument--As Popular As One Supporting Lynching
I suspect that the burghers of Minidoka County are just sharp enough to suspect that Fred Phelp's anti-gay monument would be just about as popular as one supporting white-on-black lynching. For all that I find Idaho's ultra-conservative voting trends dismaying, I suspect that many Idahoans are also thinking about the effects of this proposed monument as well as the fading effects of the white supremacists of Haydon Lake.
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 06:36 PM
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12. Phelps Can Take His Monument......
... and shove it up his ass.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-30-03 06:40 PM
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13. Also from the article:
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Phelps said he was attracted to Rupert because he believes it is a place where the monument would be safe from vandalism.

"I'm not planning to put one in the Castro district of San Francisco where all the homosexuals rule. We plan to dot this country with these monuments, where at least
they're not determined to destroy it," he said.


I will personally drive to Rupert, Idaho and deface such a monument if it comes to pass. Anyone here who wants to chip in for gas can come along. Bring your camera.
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denverbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 01:32 PM
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15. The family should sue him for slander and libel.
He's claiming Shepherd is in hell. Let him prove it.
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lovedems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-03 01:55 PM
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16. Phelp's is an intolerant creep
I bet he just loves the national attention he is getting. He is a sick bastard to go after a kid who is dead.
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