NYT- US Sues, Citing New York Delay on Vote system(HAVA)

[Tiggeroshii]

U.S. Sues, Citing New York Delay on Vote System

ALBANY, March 1 — The Justice Department sued New York State on Wednesday for failing to overhaul its election system and replace its aging voting machines. It is the first lawsuit the federal government has filed to force a state to comply with the voting guidelines enacted by Congress after the 2000 election debacle.

The new federal guidelines were designed to prevent the kind of electoral chaos that marred the 2000 presidential election in Florida, and to make voting easier for disabled voters. But New York State's efforts to modernize its election system have fallen far behind the rest of the nation, delayed by Albany's chronic gridlock and partisan bickering.

New York was supposed to create a statewide database of registered voters by Jan. 1 to make it easier to register and to detect fraud. It has not even come close to doing so, the lawsuit contends.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/02/nyregion/02vote.html?hp&ex=1141275600&en=bf2b3980313f9e04&ei=5094&partner=homepage

[Botany]

1. HAVA = Bob Ney = Diebold + EES count >80% of the vote = stolen election

Fucking nazi pigs .... as their ship is sinking they are trying to hold onto power.

[Tiggeroshii]

2. Do they have a repug sec of state, do you know? n/t

[corporatemedia]

10. Great Dem Elliiot Spitzer - not afraid of big corporations or FUed govts.

http://www.oag.state.ny.us/

[Tiggeroshii]

3. I think this is a little bit more important than people are thinking

I guess glancing over it, we don't think much of it. However, this is directly related to the pressure the states are just now getting to submit to electronic voting. They are resisting it in good spirit. I think that we need to give New York a lot more credit for things Florida and California have failed to succeed in.

[NYC]

4. :)

I like our voting machines.

[Tiggeroshii]

5. The new or the old?

The new jack your vote and turn it repug, the old may every once in a while, but it's not guaranteed as it is for the new ones

[NYC]

6. The old.

We don't have the new ones. I want to keep the old ones. I know how they work.

[Tiggeroshii]

7. totally

I miss the old ones here in cali

[NYC]

16. I feel sorry for you,

but soon I will have to feel sorry for myself, too. I will be totally despondent when they give us trackless Republican voting machine.

[ConcernedCanuk]

8. I prefer our Canuk voting machines

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:silly:

[NYC]

18. I also prefer your Canuk vote counting method.

It's very sad down here. Soon, we'll have nothing.

[phylny]

13. I like them, too.

They're pretty straightforward to use, and why spend money on new ones? Where to dispose of all the old ones?

What a waste of time and resources.

[NYC]

But it has a purpose.

No more trackable voting. No more proof of election tampering. It's no wonder they are willing to spend OUR money, and FORCE us to do it. It's very sad.

[Warren DeMontague]

9. Yeah, you know, they're just really, REALLY worried about disabled voters.

You know, these fuckers have had FIVE years to solve the Anthrax attacks and Put Ken Lay on trial. But for some strange reason they've got a fire under their ass about this.

Gotta get them diebold machines in there! C'mon! C'mon! Hurry! Hurry! C'mon!!!

[xxqqqzme]

11. and we all know why too.

they're getting more and more blatant. I thought voting was a STATE issue...why should the feds be soooo concerned? no answer needed.

[Tiggeroshii]

12. It's funny

...This is the first time the feds ever actually showed any real concern for voting: When one state decides not to go with the status quo. I"m sure there is nothing devious about this whole thing. They are certainly just worried about keeping votes from getting hacked -er umm.. marked differently.

[fasttense]

14. And this is how they will steal the election in 2008.

While American citizens shrug and wonder where the middle class went.

[pushycat]

15. another stolen election and the dems will say look to 2012....

[Tiggeroshii]

19. ...2006

shouldn''t that be the election we're worried about?

Or can we already count that lost?

[loudsue]

17. Republicans aren't even ASHAMED at showing their hand in this.

They are DEMANDING, by threat of lawsuit, that states install fraudulent voting machines.

If they could be any more OBVIOUS about their willingness to steal elections, they'd have to just come out and say it: "the states WILL COMPLY IN STEALING ELECTIONS!!"

It's just life under REPUBLICAN america.

:kick::kick::kick:

[hedgehog]

20. If I may be permitted to quote my daughter's paean to NYS's

voting machines:

"when I was young my mom took us kids with her when she went to vote. I was fascinated. what the hell was this? she pulled a lever, the curtain closed, she did something up top, and then pulled the lever the other way, opening the curtain. and she was very serious about the whole thing. seemed like fun to me.

I've read about the way elections are conducted in other parts of the country. punch cards? touch screens? ruins the whole experience. there's just something so fun about the chunk-chunk sounds and the levers and the latches. it's like an engine room! an engine room of DEMOCRACY."