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jeffgad Donating Member (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 08:06 PM
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CD From Minnesota GOP Also Gathers Data
ST. PAUL, Minn. (AP) - A computer disk that the Minnesota Republican Party prepared to support a ban on gay marriage has another purpose: gathering data on the politics of the people who view it.

http://apnews.excite.com/article/20060302/D8G3N7000.html

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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 08:09 PM
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1. I'm getting to the point where I'm not surprised anymore
For some reason this doesn't surprise me. This needs to get out.
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 08:17 PM
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2. what can I say
Edited on Thu Mar-02-06 08:18 PM by wakeme2008
:rofl:

"But she spoke after Minnesota Public Radio was able to access some of the data that was collected during testing. MPR discovered that data collected by the CDs were being sent to a computer server that was not secured, potentially making personal information in the database vulnerable to snoops."



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jean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 09:41 PM
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3. GOP Spyware - plain and simple. From the great state of Minnesota
Edited on Thu Mar-02-06 09:47 PM by jean
Where else are they pulling this stunt? More spying from the Republicans.


on edit: They're now mailing SPYWARE to private citizens under the guise of taking a simple survey. Cowards and thieves.

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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-03-06 12:44 AM
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7. Hmmm, are they scared that Franken might run?
Or are they doing this in every state?
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jean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-03-06 09:04 AM
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8. MN repubs are really pushing the anti-gay marriage wedge, early
and often.

There's a trifecta of major wedges being driven into the Minnesota political mix - gay marriage, illegal immigration and 'supporting' the troops (supporting bush war). Is this happening all over the country or is Minnesota a testing ground?

The Star Tribune's resident right wingnut 'columnist' Katherine Kersten tapped at the anti-gay marriage wedge with her toy hammer the other day:

http://www.startribune.com/191/story/279305.html (subscription)

Why are DFLers scared of voting on same-sex union?


March 1, 2006

People of Minnesota, Senate Majority Leader Dean Johnson and some DFLers are scared to death of you. They are afraid of what you'll do if they allow you to vote in November on a proposed state constitutional amendment that defines marriage as the union of one man and one woman.

...

The Minnesota House passed the marriage amendment last year, voting to let the people's voice be heard. But the DFL-controlled Senate kept it bottled up in committee. This year, DFL leaders may prevent it from reaching the Senate floor again.

The marriage amendment's opponents have launched a campaign to convince you that the amendment is a bad idea. Their bag of tricks includes soothing words -- "same-sex marriage is only about making marriage available to more people" -- coupled with bruising tactics such as branding you a hate-monger if you oppose it. As the legislative session starts, here are some of the lines you'll hear: ...








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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-03-06 12:11 PM
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11. Was just reading Franken's book - that tactic could backfire
Franken talks about the "values voting" in the 2004 election. He cites a study by Ansolbehere and Stewart from MIT that talked about "gay marriage" and how it hurt Bush in 2004. I looked on line and found an article from the Boston Review that breaks the study down.



source: Truth in Numbers: Moral values and the gay-marriage backlash did not help Bush

In general, then, voters shifted in a pro-Bush direction in 2004. What happens when we factor in the issue of gay marriage?

Eleven states—Arkansas, Georgia, Kentucky, Michigan, Mississippi, Montana, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, and Utah—had measures before the voters that would prohibit gay marriage, and in some cases civil unions. Nine of the 11—all but Michigan and Oregon—had gone for Bush in 2000, and only three—Michigan, Ohio, and Oregon—were battleground states. These are hardly the states one would choose if gay marriage were being used as a wedge issue.

***

At the state level, then, marriage referenda seem not to have worked to Bush’s advantage. If we move down to the county level, we find even firmer support for this conclusion. In states with gay marriage on the ballot, Bush gained additional support in the counties he carried in 2000. But in these same states he also lost votes in Democratic counties generally and—perhaps more surprisingly—in evenly divided counties. The overall result is that the polarization of the electorate over gay marriage aided Kerry, not Bush.

The interpretation of Bush’s 2004 victory will surely shape the agenda of his second term. Many commentators have described the election as a triumph of the Christian right, which rallied around “moral values” using the threat of gay marriage as a catalyst. This interpretation, if it takes hold, will embolden those on the right within the Bush administration. It will also lead Democrats in the wrong direction as they respond to their loss. John Kerry’s running mate, Senator John Edwards, has already commented that “voters have to believe that our values—my values and the values of other Democratic leaders—are the same values they believe in.” The evidence shows that the Republican victory rests more on fear of terrorism and an election-year uptick in the economy than on the activism of the party’s right wing. Responding to the tangible worries of the vast middle of the political spectrum rather than a polarizing moral agenda should be the basis of Democratic strategy over the next four years.

Stephen Ansolabehere is a professor of political science at MIT and the co-author of The Media Game and Going Negative.

Charles Stewart III is a professor of political science at MIT and the author of Budget Reform Politics.

More at link (I only redacted one paragraph from the article).

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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 09:53 PM
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4. is this legal?
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CatholicEdHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 10:15 PM
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5. Probably not
from what I have heard there was nothing in the privacy policy about this. (Still a point even though we know almost no-one reads license agreements anyway)
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-02-06 10:20 PM
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6. didn't sony just get busted for doing the same thing?
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JohnstownDEM Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-03-06 09:48 AM
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9. They're Republicans...
...of course it's legal. To them. Don't you know that the laws of this country only apply when they want them to? You want to get drunk and shoot someone in the face? If you have a little (R) next to your name, go right ahead.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-03-06 10:39 AM
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10. Hi JohnstownDEM! Welcome to DU!
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