Bush: U.S. Should Welcome Competition

[Judi Lynn]

Bush: U.S. Should Welcome Competition
President Bush Urges Americans to Welcome and Not Fear Competition From India, Other Countries

By DEB RIECHMANN

HYDERABAD, India Mar 3, 2006 (AP)— President Bush urged Americans worried about a U.S. job drift to India and other countries to welcome, not fear, competition with this rapidly growing nation of 1 billion.

"The classic opportunity for our American farmers and entrepreneurs and small businesses to understand is there is a 300 million-person market of middle class citizens here in India," Bush said Friday during a discussion with young entrepreneurs at a business school here, "and that if we can make a product they want, that it becomes viable."
(snip)

The meeting with business leaders and an earlier tour around the dusty campus of an agricultural college were aimed at showcasing ways the United States and India can cooperate to spur innovation across industries.
India's exploding economy has created millions of jobs. India's outsourcing industry alone is expected to bring in $22 billion in revenue this fiscal year, much of that generated by U.S. companies.

"People do lose jobs as a result of globalization and it's painful for those who lose jobs," Bush acknowledged. "Globalization provides great opportunities."
(snip/...)

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=1682407&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312

[Starfury]

1. Wouldn't it be nice if....

...bush actually supported OUR middle class? Of course, he actually supports neither country's middle class, just the ability to profit off other people's work and misery. What an asshat!

[KarenS]

2. Competition??? give me a break,,,,,

From someone who doesn't know or care what competition is,,,,

I have been beyond disgust for so long now.

:puke:

[The Backlash Cometh]

77. Bush always went bankrupt when he had to leave himself open

to competition. Someone was always there to help him land on his feet. Someone the rest of us don't have.

Who's going to trust him now? He had the same lack of experience when he sent those boys to go fight in Iraq. He didn't earn it in that case, and he's not earning it now.

[HughBeaumont]

3. Completely irresponsible Reaganite bullshit.

It's not competition when Indian workers are always going to be cheaper. It's not competition when you're giving them the R&D future that we should be getting our hands on. It's not competition because we don't MAKE anything HERE anymore. It's not competition because they're already getting the jump on sciences such as nano- and Bio-technology while were trying to destroy science to believe a story and appease a bunch of toupeed wackjobs with crosses. It's not competition when you enable corporations to displace thousands of American workers either by offshoring or inshoring via tax breaks and loopholes. It's not competition when you have nothing on the near or far horizon to replace the outgoing jobs

What it IS, however, is the destruction of the American middle class, exactly as the well-monied Robber Baron Republican'ts want it. Offshoring helps NO one but the rich and drives down wages in every job they can ship over or bring here. "Everyone in their station and have the good sense to STAY there." A fearful, low paid, divided and powerless middle class is an OBEDIENT middle class.

What's even MORE depressing is that there are so-called progressives who buy into this asshole mantra of "a rising tide lifts all boats" and play the "xenophobia" card from the bottom of the deck when you disagree with this short-term pillaging. This isn't about hatred of anyone; Indians are simply embracing the opportunity given to them by our companies.

Unfortunately, know that it comes at a huge human price, one which is going to grow more than dissipate. Come to Northeast Ohio and the ghost-towns that litter it sometime and look at the cost. Go to any of the small towns in America that used to thrive, but now have boarded up weed-infested everything. Look at all the vacant office space in most mid-market cities and tell me how "progressive" it is that this dickhead presidope cares more about the events and markets of countries that start with an "I" than he does our own.

[theHandpuppet]

6. Great post!

This needs to be a LTTE to every newspaper in the country! :thumbsup:

[MatthewStLouis]

13. Well said!

And you know those same "progressives" who buy into globalization are the same ones who take contributions from wealthy corporate backers. They want corporate money and our support. Until this changes, the middle class will continue to be exploited. We all know what Bush and his people really stand for: a feudal system with serfs (us, the lower classes, the wage EARNERS) and nobles (them, the wealthy business class, the investment class).

[HughBeaumont]

15. WELCOME to the Palace of DU!

:toast:

You'll fit in just nicely, I can tell.

[raccoon]

16. Great post. As someone else said, this would make a great LTTE.

Thanks for that link, too. Some of the things these folks who lost their jobs due to jobs going to India said make so much sense, I'll quote them here.

"This is a different type of terror. You can't really see it, and it is far, far reaching."

And the US isn't fighting this type of "terra."

"For every lost job, there's a lost taxpayer."

Amen, but do the higher ups ever think about that?

"The multinational corporations are basically selling away the American economy."

What's going to happen when it's an empty shell?

"I believe (offshoring) is unstoppable."

I'm not sure if it's unstoppable but I don't think either the Republicans or the Democrats have the will to stop it. It would tick off their contributors big time.

[HughBeaumont]

20. And a lost consumer. And a lost small business opportunity.

And you're right - it would piss off their donors, who have long supported a fascist-type system which keeps the middle class fearful and obedient to the ruling class and the corporations they run.

Really, how do we stop the corporations when the USA in general is afflicted with such a herd mentality (DU and progressives notwithstanding)? Where is OUR say? If anyone's looking for REAL terrorists, they wear $3000 suits and they're laughing their fat, stogie-sucking asses off at us while we worry about some phantom greybeard on dialysis.

[Occulus]

26. If we eliminated corporate personhood, we could

outlaw offshoring- period.

We could even forbid corporations from discussing it, even among themselves.

Nearly every progressive issue we talk about here has the elimination of corporate personhood at its roots.

[WinkyDink]

21. PERFECT response!!! The narcissist loves the "I" countries!

"Republican'ts"~~~LOVE that!

I think that is THE ONLY WAY from now on that we Dems should refer to them!!!

[Virginian]

24. Bush is good for India.

In order to level, the playing field, ours has to be lowered. That means a lot of out-of-work Americans so that Indians can compete.
He certainly doesn't represent MY best interests. In the years when I should be looking forward to retirement, I am looking for a job.
I really can't afford to go back to school every 5 years to retool my skills. Companies like Oracle charge 1/10 the price for tuition in India that they charge in the US. That is not leveling the playing field.

India is a third world nation and that is where we are headed.

[HughBeaumont]

25. EXACTLY, while they charge an arm and a leg for classes here.

Oracle are huge bastards, not only in practice, but their product is crap as well in terms of cost.

To your point about school, not only can we not afford it, but time simply doesn't allow for constant re-education. Thanks to fiber-optics, BPO is happening so fast and it's literally impossible to keep playing career musical chairs to accommodate. New industries and technologies are just not emerging here fast enough. And how do any of us know that the career we choose to re-train for won't follow it's predecessor offshore?

[area51]

27. Well said, HughBeaumont.

Supporter of offshoring/inshoring = traitor to America.

[Megahurtz]

87. Perfect Post! n/t

[cornermouse]

4. Okay. Let's globalize his job.

Other than attacking Iraq, would a foreigner do anything much different from what he has done with the office?

How about that nuclear arms deal he just reached with India? Coming directly on top of selling security for our ports to Dubai or any other country for that matter, it is a clear indication of just how not seriously he takes the office that he sits in, nuclear arms, and our own security. Let him feel a little of the job loss pain that so many Americans have felt.

[annabanana]

5. "if we can make a product they want"

And if we can make it there we can save on shipping costs, taxes, regulations, labor, those pesky government regulations...

It's good for amurrca..

note: I'm beginning to think that "amurrca" is poplulated entirely of trustfund frat boys.

[truthisfreedom]

7. what, welcome Kerry? he's competition.

deal, Arbusto-man.

[grilled onions]

8. They Will Never Understand

Until it's THEIR jobs that are being outsourced,until it's THEIR homes that they will lose,until it's THEIR retirement that has no future. Their bottom line goes up while more working class Americans are having to visit food pantries,soup kitchens,losing homes,being evicted for lack of rent money. Little kids who should be in their worry free years are finding hunger and fear,forced to sleep in vehicles because their parents can't find work or get enough for a rent deposit. The elderly are making the tough choices of food or--food or rent,food or medicine,food or heat. Middle class? What's that?

[rodeodance]

11. you are right

[0rganism]

83. Even then, they will not understand

They will simply blame other victims. No, I'm afraid your original post title was quite correct about "Never".

[Ben Ceremos]

9. Translation:

"People do lose jobs as a result of globalization and it's painful for those who lose jobs," Bush acknowledged. "Globalization provides great opportunities (for the wealthy and powerful, and for me)."
"But it's not as if I give a flying fuck about anyone, but me,that is." admitted Bush.

[raccoon]

17. Thanks, I needed that. And it is SO true. nt

[rodeodance]

10. wonder if he saw any of these crowds

[HughBeaumont]

12. It's the neo-con 1-2 punch to the stomach of the working class today!!

Just when you think they can't get ANY more insufferable and out of touch with real Americans, along comes Vice President Fudd with this pearl of wisdom!

They're just battin' a GRAND today, aren't they?

[bemildred]

14. Good. Let's start with competitive political races and honest elections.

[M155Y_A1CH]

18. Take care you rich folks...

...if you treasure your security . If we lose this game they're playing,

the poor American will be forced to eat the rich (fat and tender, yum).

There will be plenty of sore losermen and they will be coming for YOU.

[raccoon]

19. This kind of insensitive, dipstick remark is known as

rubbing salt in the wound.

[DiverDave]

22. The ruthuglican art of telling LIES!

"The United States would counter it by educating people with the skills needed to be employed in jobs emerging in the 21st century rather than discouraging outsourcing, he said."

http://tinyurl.com/zjpnr


WHAT education, you fascist bastard?
YOU and your minions CUT education spending so the rich can buy another god damned yacht.

If there is a hell, and I fervently hope there is, he will be roasting for the pain and misery he has caused us.

I don't hate many things, I feel it's a wasted emotion, but I HATE EVERY MOTHER FUCKING republican, I cant help it...lieing stealing cheating BASTARDS, all of them!

Sorry for the rant, I don't feel any better, which goes to show me that it is wasted emotion...christ, what kind of world am I leaving my kids?

On edit: Recommended for the greatest page

[Lorien]

23. So, I can get cheap drugs from Canada now?

"Globalization provides great opportunities." yeah, for a privileged few. The rest of us lose our jobs AND our access to needed affordable medicine.

[Norquist Nemesis]

28. The quote sums it up to "Shit Happens! Tough Shit!"

:grr:

[anotherdrew]

29. if we are to compete, how about lowering our rent and utility costs?

but no... we should be able to live on next to no money yet still be able to pay any cost demanded for housing, food and utilities. To say nothing of healthcare. What is the healthcare system in India like anyway?

[VegasWolf]

30. King Bush the Dumb-Fuck. Competition. NOT! Hey Bush,

why do American Corporations send American jobs to India. Because it is cheaper you turd.

[kurth]

31. "Let's make sure people are educated"

Okay, people, tell your kids to get educated and get into high tech... and watch their high tech jobs go to India.

[grateful581]

32. We should welcome the loss of jobs in the US

WTF is bush thinking!
One thing is for sure he is not thinking of our well being

[Moderator]

33. Kick

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

34. Bush: Outsourcing painful, but remedy is worse

Friday, March 3, 2006; Posted: 11:40 a.m. EST (16:40 GMT)

"It's ... important to remember that when someone loses a job it's an incredibly difficult period for the worker and their families," Bush said in a speech in New Delhi. "It's true that some Americans have lost jobs when their companies move their operations overseas," he said.

"Some people believe the answer to this problem is to wall off our economy from the world through protectionist policies. I strongly disagree." (Watch Bush explain why the U.S. and India are natural partners -- 2:36)

"The United States will not give into the protectionists and lose these opportunities," Bush said.

"For the sake of workers in both our countries, America will trade with confidence."

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapcf/03/03/bush.india.fri/index.html

[bluestateguy]

35. I'm proud to be a protectionist

I'll never apologize for wanting to protect American jobs.

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

38. I was moved and inspired by his comment:

"some Americans have lost jobs..."

SOME? I've got news for ya, Junior...it's more than just a drop in the bucket.

:argh:

[bballny]

56. Mangoes for Nuclear

Man, I just love mangoes and talking to Indian call centers. I actually refuse to talk to Indian call centers and ask immediately to be transferred to an American. Anytime any of us get an Indian we should do this an immediately write a letter to the president of that company.

[havocmom]

65. Don't piss them off. They might well have your tax return.

Google tax return + processing + outsourcing. More and more returns done overseas each year.

Feel safer, America?

[Just Me]

71. What he's really doing is exploiting slave labor.

This administration are a buncha' of pro-exploitation robber barons.

[OnionPatch]

81. I was just thinking

about a bumper sticker that says "Proud Protectionist---Keep American jobs in America!"

[shoelace414]

36. I have a general question for people here

How many people on DU work at a place where they recieve goods from India.

(I do)

How many people on DU work at a place where they SELL goods TO India?

(not me)

[MadMaddie]

46. Another question to add to your list...

How many work in IT environments where at least 50% of the workforce are contracters from India...
(I do).

[Skittles]

53. me

it truly SUCKS

[superconnected]

55. I do - and we're sending 4000 more jobs there this year.

[bluedog]

37. Okay then .lets outsource his Security Protection Units !! n/t

[Benhurst]

72. Hell, let's outsource the presidency itself. Any Indian on any

street corner in New Delhi could outperform George Walker Bush.

[Gormy Cuss]

39. I want him to give one example of how outsourcing has pained HIM.

Just one little example.

[Megahurtz]

40. Sounds like he's just basically telling us

to Fuck Off.:(

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

44. Sounds to me like "outsourcing hurts, but who gives a rat's ass..."

CNN had a video clip on its front page a couple of days ago. It was an American CEO who set up a design firm in India. He had a big smile on his face when he said "In the U.S., most of these people would be working for $70,000 per year. Here? Ten, maybe twelve thousand."

Kanye West needs to update his rap. George Bush doesn't care about black people OR the American worker.

:grr:

[Megahurtz]

49. Grrrrr,

and it seems like it's only going to get worse. I'm tired of everyone in every other country
coming first before us Americans. We're all taking a back seat with Bush in charge.:grr:

[Dawgs]

41. Two things...

1) Great picture. Makes Bush look like a dumbass.

2) New talking point--> BUSH IS FOR OUTSOURCING OF AMERICAN JOBS.

[meegbear]

42. The remedy, as in keeping the jobs here, is worse?

:wtf:

[Sapere aude]

43. It's worse for the investor class. That's all he thinks about.

Workers in this country are just grist for the mill.

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

45. By jove, I think you've GOT it...

After you let the words sink in and shake your head a dozen or so times, it STILL doesn't sound any better, does it?

That's the "remedy," all right...what Bush considers to be "protectionist strategery," also known as keeping American jobs in the U.S.

:patriot:

[meegbear]

70. What a jerk!

And I LOVE your Pink Floyd sig pic :loveya:

[hang a left]

47. That was my first thought.

What is the remedy? Who would be adversely effected?

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

50. Corporate America would be adversely effected...

I remember the buzz around the time of the 2004 election.

Companies were "laying low" with mass-scale outsourcing because they didn't want it to become an "election issue."

One pundit said "If Bush is re-elected, STAND BACK."

So this little India stump speech is nothing more than payback. It's just Bush sending a message to the people who re-selected him that they haven't been forgotten.

Kind of like the love letter Scalito sent to Dobson.

[MadMaddie]

48. When was the last time * visited an American Farmer?

Translated
"We will not lose opportunites to screw our American workers"

<snip>
"The United States will not give into the protectionists and lose these opportunities," Bush said.
<snip>

[Sugar Smack]

51. Oh, for fuck's sake. Is his vocabulary on "shuffle"?

:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

[VegasWolf]

59. Good one!! Perfect description of Bush!!! nt

[Sugar Smack]

79. Thanks! I tell you-

The number of times I personally have had to read these quotes from him makes me dizzy and nauseous---> "important to remember" "difficult" "some Americans" "operations" "Some people believe" "this problem" "I strongly disagree" "The United States will not give in" "opportunities" "confidence"

Apply them to ANY pressing issue. ANY issue.

Katrina
Iraq
Taxes
Iran
UAE Ports Deal
The economy

Impossible that ANYONE would want to swallow that pabulum.

:nuke:

[w8liftinglady]

75. LOL! good one!

[Sugar Smack]

80. Thank you. So you've had enough of the

limited vocabulary shuffle, too? What an embarrassment for all of us this little man is.

[cshldoc]

52. I wish he'd lose HIS job....

n/t

[genieroze]

54. America will trade with confidence? America will take it up the a$$.

[Elidor]

57. That's Bush for you, always offering sand in lieu of lube

"My rich friends got theirs. The rest of you can go pound sand up your asses."

[onehandle]

58. Bush (Hearts) Outsourcing. Bush Hates Average Americans.

Period.

[brentspeak]

60. "For the sake of workers in both our countries"???

For the sake of American workers, we must continue policies which eradicate their jobs?

:mad:

[VegasWolf]

61. Outsource Bush! nt

[truthisfreedom]

62. how come everything with you is always painful for others, mr. bush?

you put a policeman in the hospital for 12 weeks with your bicycle and dickweed shot his friend in the face... not to mention thousands upon thousands of dead and horribly maimed Iraqi innocents... why is there always pain for others associated with your actions?

[Kolesar]

63. "A low, hanging curveball" for the Dems to smack over the fence...eom

[pitohui]

64. if you won't protect your own, you're no good to anybody

the man who won't look out for his own is not a man in my book, sorry

[Virginia Dare]

66. Translation...

Americans have to lose their good-paying jobs so corporations can go exploit people in other countries and make more money.

[antiblazer]

67. "conservative compassion"

more evidence that Bush does not give a damn about the average American. Bush is more interested in being a tool for corporate America than fighting for Americans.

:mad:

[951-Riverside]

68. Sounds like he's playing the RACE card as USUAL when it benefits HIM

If we ever try to get out jobs back we're going to have a HUGE problem on our hands.

[HughBeaumont]

69. You would like to THINK that statements like these will be his undoing . .

But it won't.

[high density]

73. I dunno why all of those Indians were protesting Bush

He's doing great things for that country while destroying our own at a fast rate.

[newspeak]

74. okay, a little off topic

but I was listening to AAR, Majority Report, and they played "I Want My Country Back." I'm not much for country music, but the lyrics were great. Does anyone know who sings it?

[newspeak]

78. never mind

the lyrics for "Takin My Country Back" is at General Discussion---Hey come on ya'll, can't have the Old, oh I mean, the New World Order without some sacrifices--Ya see, first what ya have ta do is make everyone in the world, third world, it's called leveraging the playing field; then as profits are made, my friends might give ya a little of it, after we squeeze ya'll dry with taxes to help support my good ol boys. Now ya'll have to think that the world is a baseball field, that's right and we'all is leveling the field--now, ya'll get what I mean. And, and ya'll are in the outfield and me and my buds are in the in field calling the shots.

[rodeodance]

76. -this from a man who is about to retire in comfort in a few years.

[DiverDave]

84. And who never, EVER, worked a day in his life.

what a sad state we have fallen to.

[OnionPatch]

82. And tell me George

How does one compete with workers who make about 30 cents an hour? Are you suggesting we offer to do the job for 29?

What a slap in the face to American workers. :mad:

[stepnw1f]

85. Coming from a man-child that has never Competed

[Megahurtz]

86. Fuck You * !!!