State bill proposes Christianity be Missouri’s official religion

[phantom power]

Missouri legislators in Jefferson City considered a bill that would name Christianity the state's official "majority" religion.

(...)

The resolution would recognize "a Christian god," and it would not protect minority religions, but "protect the majority's right to express their religious beliefs.

The resolution also recognizes that, "a greater power exists," and only Christianity receives what the resolution calls, "justified recognition."

State representative David Sater of Cassville in southwestern Missouri, sponsored the resolution, but he has refused to talk about it on camera or over the phone.

http://www.kmov.com/topstories/stories/030206ccklrKmovreligionbill.7d361c3f.html

[TechBear_Seattle]

1. Not a bill but a resolution. Here is the text

A bill would be unconstitution. A resolution defines policy on how laws will be created, enacted, enforced and interpreted but is not, in and of itself, a violation of the First Amendment.

The text of the resolution, taken right from the Missouri State House's website, can be read at http://www.house.mo.gov/bills061/biltxt/intro/HCR0013I.htm

[phantom power]

2. For some reason, that doesn't make me feel better...

but I see the distinction.

[TechBear_Seattle]

18. It shouldn't make you feel better, it should make you feel worse

There is no restriction on passing a resolution, no matter how bigoted or anti-Constitution it might be. And such resolutions can shape policy for years, directing laws and motivating interpretations that edge very, very close to violating the Constitution without actually doing any violations.

And once such boundaries start getting pushed.... Ever read "A Handmaid's Tale" about how the religious nutters accomplished their coup?

:scared:

[phantom power]

22. Yes, I think about Handmaid's Tale frequently these days.

What's sad is, here in the real world, they may not even need machine guns. A bloodless coup by the American Taliban.

[trixie]

39. The founding fathers ...

are spinning in their graves.

[Zhade]

81. Something tells me that, thanks to the nature of his followers...

...Jesus, if he existed, must be spinning in his grave!

[Zhade]

80. Agreed, the danger is that this can't be overturned, IIRC.

This is reprehensible!

[brooklynite]

35. Actually (and unfortuately) its perfectly legal...

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

The Constitution says nothing about a State's ability to define a religion.

[Solon]

37. False: Amendment 14....

Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Now this Amendment means that the Bill of Rights, a Federal Restriction on power of the Federal Government now applies to the states as well. Now, this is a resolution, not a law, so it may squeak by this restriction.

[michiganbuckeye1970]

101. Unconstitutional

Even as a resolution. Not only that, it is just plain silly. When are the mainstream Christians going to fight back against the way they are being played by the fundamentalists Christians in this country?

[treestar]

106. The State Constitution may even have its own "First" Amendment

Most state constitutions do.

[TechBear_Seattle]

38. You forget the 14th Amendment

Specifically, a clause from Section 1: "No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States"

The Court has long held that the Constitution does not merely prohibit Congress from doing certain actions, it guarantees certain rights; ie the First Amendment does not prohibit Congress so much as guarantee a right at the federal level to belief, speech, media, assembly and redress. The Court has also long held that because these rights amount to "privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States," the 14th Amendment prohibits states from making or enforcing any law which shall abridge, among other things, the guarantee of rights regarding belief, speech, media, assembly and redress. By extension, states must prohibit local governments (cities, towns, counties, etc.) from enacting such laws.

[brooklynite]

44. The court has also held that women had a right...

to make private decisions about their health, but that doesn't seem to be stopping people from trying to get the Court to change its mind.

nb - The proposed language doesn't seem to infringe on anyone's right to practice any other religion, it just makes Christianity more equal than others.

[Solon]

74. Look up the Lemon Test...

Its the way that the courts test Religiously themed cases, so to speak. Also, on Roe v. Wade, the courts used both the 4th and 14th amendments to justify the majority decision. The 4th protects the right against unreasonable searches and seizures, in other words and as interepreted by the Supreme Court, the right to privacy, and used the 14th Amendment to say that this applies to the states too.

[maxrandb]

52. Yes! But isn't a resolution different?

I mean, isn't their "out" on this that it is not a law, but a resolution? Sort of like declaring it "Gropenfurher Day" in Austria or something, or a non-binding sense of the Senate?

I am in no way supporting this crap, but I'm not sure the 14th applies. Of course, I'm a Sailor, not a Constitutional expert.

In any event, I hope there are enough "rational" elected officials in MO to vote this down.

Hopefully, this will be like what happens in Virginia all the time. The "wing-nut" House throws some shit on the wall, and the Senate wipes it off. And make no mistake about it...this resolution is SHIT!

[stepnw1f]

41. lol....oh boy (nt)

[struggle4progress]

116. Missouri Constitution Article I (Bill of Rights) Section 7

... no preference shall be given to nor any discrimination made against any church, sect or creed of religion, or any form of religious faith or worship ...

http://www.moga.mo.gov/const/A01007.HTM

[pro_blue_guy]

78. Tyranny by the majority? Maybe so.........

[SpiralHawk]

3. "My Christianity is better than your Christianity" - Dominionist Fundies

"And if you don't reject your Evil low-grade sucky Christianity, and swallow mine Whole Hog, you will die a horrid, painful grisly death with putrid pustules on your 'Pagan Private Parts'"

"Assume the Position"

- With "Christian" Love, Charity & Felicitations for One and All,
Your Un-humble, Self-Sanctified Dominionist Fundy* Masters



* Sole Possessors of the Ultimate Cool Totally True Truth (TM)

[saigon68]

20. Next up in the legislature

This quaint pronouncement

Hey muslim boy how would you like an electric clip



Attached to your privates

[Breeze54]

70. "Totally True Truth (TM)" LOL

Self-Sanctified Dominionist Fundy* Masters
* Sole Possessors of the Ultimate Cool Totally True Truth (TM)
:rofl: :rofl:

[SharonAnn]

117. That's what I wondered, which Christianity? Which version? Which sect?

[MadMaddie]

4. Wow....they have pulled out all the stops...

So now they are going to impose their form of religion on the masses....

Once they try to implement this...then they will strip gays of any American rights they have...
They will go after minorities because they are not white.....

This is dangerous, dangerous territory......

I gotta a feeling that they sense the end is near for the repug power hold on this country.....

[Zhade]

83. They're either emboldened, or aware their days are numbered.

I think it's the latter.

[Mist]

5. How insane, and unconstitutional (do we still have a constitution?)

The resolution "would not protect nimority religions" - wow, right in your face with it, aren't they. It would "protect the majority's right to express their religious beliefs" - WHEN has the majority felt they couldn't do that?? I guess it means they'll get their xmas displays on public property-big whooop. But the precedent this sets is beyond disturbing.

[proud2BlibKansan]

16. Yes this is really stupid

I am a teacher in Missouri and I can assure you NO ONE is prohibiting anyone from saying silent prayers in public schools.

[The Taxman]

89. Insane? Yes. Unconstitutional? Well, since Congress has made "no law

respecting an establishment of religion," is it unconstitutional?

[Drum]

6. WHAT are these people smoking??? nt

[ChairmanAgnostic]

7. not enough, whatever it is.

[Zhade]

84. Certainly NOT the good stuff, since *I'm* sitting here...

...thinking how fucked-up this is!

:smoke:

[oneighty]

8. All Hail the Ori

Right outta Stargate SG1.

Claudia Black is in tonight's episode.

Yipppeeeeeee

All Hail the Ori...hahahahaha


180

[Norquist Nemesis]

9. Good!!! I hope they do it!!!

Opens the door Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, etc. to take it up to the Supreme Court how the government that is Constitutionally mandated to represent them has an inherent bias to discriminate based on religion.

Go for it boys! Do it!

[proud2BlibKansan]

17. Oh how I agree with you

We have a HUGE population of Muslims in my community. And an ACLU office too. :)

[NJ-Dem]

43. Agreed

This kind of thing is going to backfire in the fundies faces. This and the abortion restrictions now being sought in N.D. and Missouri are going to create a general backlash against the GOP. They are already in a tailspin and these issues are going to push them down much further.

[maxrandb]

53. I concur with you NJ-Dem

and welcome to DU.

That 20-30% that "cringed while pulling the GOP lever" because they always thought..."Oh man, they'll never do that stupid shit" will run away in droves.

There going over the cliff, like they always do when they are in power, and "reasonable" people are going to give them a push

[JitterbugPerfume]

10. Missouri is

the home of Ashcroft , and the Assemblies of God headquarters is in Springfield. The Ashcroft family is very powerful there

[proud2BlibKansan]

19. And the legislator who wrote this nonsense

is from that part of the state. Also don't forget the Blunt family is from down there too.

[MoJoWorkin]

69. I live in Springfield---and I am proud to be a LIBERAL---

and yes, I live where they produce Aschrofts and Blunts :puke:
But there is hope. I made up a big sign for the back window of my car that says
IMPEACH BUSH/CHENEY and W = AMERICA'S BIGGEST DISASTER; and when I came out from shopping today I found a note on my windshield. I thought it would be someone mad at my signs. To my surprise, it said "Thank you for your bumper stickers. Lord help the USA!!!"

I have seen a lot of W stickers gone off cars recently. I do believe there is a change blowin' in the wind, even here in SWMO.

[Zhade]

85. My best friend commented on the vanishing stickers.

She says she's seen a lot of cars (she drives the 405 here in SoCal) with clean areas in the shapes of ribbons and those oval "W" stickers.

I think just about everyone except the insnae, the evil, and the uninformed is superpissed.

[StrongbadTehAwesome]

11. I weep in shame for my state.

It's not enough that we had to jump on South Dakota's abortion ban bandwagon yesterday, now we have this?

Although, what can you expect from a state whose constitution preamble reads, "We the people of Missouri, with profound reverence for the Supreme Ruler of the Universe, and grateful for His goodness, do establish this constitution for the better government of the state."


:grr: :grr: :grr: :grr: :grr:

[Zhade]

86. Wait, now MISSOURI is also banning abortion???

In *addition* to SD and Mississippi?

[proud2BlibKansan]

12. Not about Christianity, but about prayer in school, etc:

"Now, therefore, be it resolved by the members of the House of Representatives of the Ninety-third General Assembly, Second Regular Session, the Senate concurring therein, that we stand with the majority of our constituents and exercise the common sense that voluntary prayer in public schools and religious displays on public property are not a coalition of church and state, but rather the justified recognition of the positive role that Christianity has played in this great nation of ours, the United States of America."

[sarcasmo]

58. As a Teacher, how long do you think it will be before they force you

to start your class with a prayer.

[DarleenMB]

90. Prayer in school?

Not that farfetched folks.

I was born, and grew up in Colorado, and I remember DISTINCTLY in the first grade (which would have been 1951?) our day began with the Pledge of Allegience and the Lord's Prayer, all dutifully lead by our teacher.

[countryboy1949]

103. Prayer in School?

I agree DarleneMB. I was in the first grade in 1955 and we began our day with the Pledge of Allegience and prayer also. Like you all led by our teacher. Just as it had been done (the prayer part) for almost 200 years before us.

And as far as the 1st amendment "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion" that applies to the federal government, not the states.

[proud2BlibKansan]

93. Good thing I belong to the ACLU

because I will respectfully decline to lead any prayers in my classroom.

[stlsaxman]

96. Wonder what Ray Hartman will have to say about this on Donnybrook...

he's the local chairman of the aclu, as you know.

should be interesting. :popcorn:

[Zhade]

87. "voluntary prayer"

No one's saying people can't pray, you fucking liar - just that people can't be forced to pray by the school.

Fucking LIAR!

[proud2BlibKansan]

92. Don't these people just make you sick?

They are just despicable.

[CrazyOrangeCat]

13. Horseshit! Horseshit! Horseshit!

This state has officially gone down the toilet.

I assure you, they would lock Jesus up and throw away the key--they know more about fornicating than Christianity.

:mad:

[Sequoia]

14. Against the Constitution!!!!

Show me Missouri that your God is better than their God. You can't because "in my Father's house are many mansions. If it were not so, I would have told you". See Missouri I'm "showing" you the verse in the Bible.

[maxrandb]

27. Love the lyrics from that Dylan song

"You say in your house there's many mansions,
each ones gotta fire-proof floor"

[Sequoia]

73. Firemen not needed I guess.

[shantipriya]

15. Christian State--Missouri

Beginning of the end of America!!!

[Sapere aude]

21. Just like all the other lying right wing bastards. Up until they got

their guys on the Supreme Court they told us that they have no intention of forcing their religion on anyone else. I remember seing fundies on TV telling us how all they want to do is practice their religion and leave the laws as they were.

Jesus would call them hypocrites like the ones in the temple.

[genieroze]

23. Holy Christ on a cracker!.

[sakabatou]

24. -_-

AUGH!

[maxrandb]

25. I wondered what they were going to pull "this" Easter

They don't have Terry Schiavo to prostrate themselves over, so it looks like a little religious hate is in order to "rile" up the fundies this Easter.

I give them credit. It's actually brilliant. Sick, cynical, hateful, and divisive...but brilliant none the less. It's going to take a LOT of integrity to vote against this resolution. I can see the ads now. "So and so voted against God!"

How very Christian of them.

"Effing" Old-testament Christians.

---Bumper sticker idea---

"You're not a Christian if you haven't made it past the book of Leviticus"

[CrazyOrangeCat]

28. Great bumper sticker idea!

Of course, these idiots wouldn't even get it. So sad.

To think that these fundementalist pricks were on the fringe twenty-five years ago. We used to laugh at their nuttiness. Now they are running the show. Big time.

Sometimes I shed a tear over this stuff, other mornings I'm just numb. It's like waiting for a train wreck to happen.

[VegasWolf]

26. my gawd is bettere than your gawd. my holy babble says so! nah nah! nt

[PassingFair]

65. WWSD?

What would Scooby Do?

[smoogatz]

29. God HAS been very good to Missouri.

Evidently it's a state in which everyone has a good job and affordable healthcare and a decent place to live. Apparently there's no poverty or hunger in Missouri. There must not be any crime, and the schools must be excelling in all departments. The farmers must be doing great, the air and water are apparently clean as a whistle, the roads and bridges have got to be in excellent repair, and public transportation must be running smoothly. Otherwise, how could their state legislature have time to spend ramming through a resolution such as this one, that does nothing to make the residents of Missouri safer, smarter or more prosperous?

[Khaotic]

30. Don't Just Get Mad, Write the Idiot that Wrote the Bill

Don't just flame here on this board ... give the idiot who wrote the bill a piece of your mind.

Here ya go:

http://www3.capwiz.com/y/bio/?id=145143

There you'll find the miserable idiot's picture and all his personal info, along with his email address and a link to use a form to contact him.

I say DU his ass so he knows what the rest of the nation thinks. Don't hesitate to give him a piece of your mind even if you don't live in Missouri.

In case you didn't read the whole story his name is Representative David Sater.

Just look at this idiot!

?size=147x105

Hopefully those in his district will NOT reelect this miserable ass in November, but knowing how backward southern Missouri is ...



... this move will probably make him a hero.

I feel sad for Missouri and worse for the decay this will do to the constitution and the bill or rights.

Worse ... if this passes other red states will follow.

MORONS!!!!

[bain_sidhe]

31. This is a test

There are some reich-wing legal types who contend that the first amendment means that the federal government can't "establish" a religion, not that state governments can't. I suspect this is meant to test that proposition in the courts.

The question is, has Bush packed enough reich-wing judges on to the courts for this to pass?

[Khaotic]

33. The Reich-Wing

Legislated Insanity

[AzDar]

32. Jeebus! They are just BUSTIN' OUT with this crap...first South Dakota

with the abortion bill; then (was it?)Mississippi with theirs...now THIS unconstitutional nightmare.
WHAT exactly do you suppose is emboldening these assclowns? Are they smelling Bush-blood in the water, and want to get all of this nonsense 'rolling' before the backlash cometh, or WHAT?

[StrongbadTehAwesome]

51. oh, yeah...

not wanting to be left out, Missouri drafted and introduced its very own bright, shiny abortion ban into the state senate yesterday:

http://www.senate.mo.gov/06info/BTS_Web/Bill.aspx?SessionType=R&BillID=165801

I guess giving Christianity special protection is the next logical step?

:argh:

[superconnected]

55. they believe the diebold lie.

[zann725]

34. In the "heartland" of America? Why does this make me somewhat queasy?

Sounds like something the Repugs purposely want sent to Supreme Court for a "decsion" on "Christian" nation.

...when they're done deciding on Anna Nicole Smith, of course. First things first in this Alice-in-Wonderland rabbit hole our country has haphazardly tumbled into.

[brooklynite]

36. Do we have a conflict of interet here?

Here's another bill he's supporting:

HOUSE JOINT RESOLUTION NO. 39

93RD GENERAL ASSEMBLY

JOINT RESOLUTION

Submitting to the qualified voters of Missouri an amendment repealing section 5 of article I of the Constitution of Missouri, and adopting one new section in lieu thereof relating to the right to pray.

...snip...

Section 5. That all men and women have a natural and indefeasible right to worship Almighty God according to the dictates of their own consciences; that no human authority can control or interfere with the rights of conscience; that no person shall, on account of his or her religious persuasion or belief, be rendered ineligible to any public office or trust or profit in this state, be disqualified from testifying or serving as a juror, or be molested in his or her person or estate; that to secure a citizen's right to acknowledge Almighty God according to the dictates of personal convictions, neither the state nor any of its political subdivisions shall establish any official religion, but a citizen's right to pray or to express his or her religious beliefs on any public property, including schools, shall not be infringed;

[BiggJawn]

40. Hey, just what's going on here? Missouri is infringing...

...on Indiana's claim of having the Stupidiest Lawmakers in The World...

Not just the White House, H. L., Morons everyplace else, too...

[stepnw1f]

42. People Have Any Doubts about Fascism being on the Rise?

"Everybody must be like me... me, me, me, me, me, me, me....."

[daleo]

45. This is stupid beyond belief

No doubt just grandstanding, but today's grandstanding occasionally becomes tomorrow's reality.

[riona]

46. so smug

must be comforting to feel you are a member of the world's most superior religion

[rodeodance]

47. it is dangerous that they are even considering this!! much less if it pass

es.

[EVDebs]

48. Wait wait, I thought they'd sell the 'naming rights' ! Or at least

privatize it first !

[tomg]

49. About 2 years ago, World O'Crap

wrote a piece about David Limbaugh and how in his "book" - Persecution: How the Liberals Feed Christians to the Lions - Little Numbnuts (he is to Rush what Jeb is to George) claimed that the Constitution only prevents the Federal Government from establishing a state religion, but states can do what they want ( like set up their own Talibans I guess). All I can assume is that this clown out in Missouri (the Show Me State that once again has shown that it has some pretty strange wingnuts out there - hey Dave and Rush are both from Cape Giradeau - and Dave and I share a birthday) got this idea from Limbaugh. I doubt Mr. Sater could figure it out on his own.

Incidentally, for a pretty hilarious list of official state religions, check out World O'Craps list: http://blogs.salon.com/0002874/stories/2003/11/22/theOfficialStateReligionList.html

[proud2BlibKansan]

94. The guy who proposed the anti abortion legislation is also from Cape G.

http://www.senate.mo.gov/06info/BTS_Web/Bill.aspx?SessionType=R&BillID=165801

[Atmashine]

50. What's all this crap about the Founding Fathers wanting a Christian Nation

Someone needs to read their Age of Reason by Thomas Paine. Maybe send them a copy.

[NYC Liberal]

56. Or the Treaty with Tripoli, ratified UNANIMOUSLY in the Senate in 1796

and signed by GEORGE WASHINGTON:

Art. 11. As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Mussulmen; and, as the said States never entered into any war, or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions, shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.

[countryboy1949]

115. Holy Trinity Church vs. United Sates

Supreme Court Justice David J. Brewer (serving 1890-1910) spoke of the United States as a Christian nation:

"This Republic is classified among the Christian nation of the world. It was so formally declared by the Supreme Court of the United States. In the case of Holy Trinity Church vs. United Sates, 143, U.S. 471, that Court, after mentioning various circumstances, added, "these and many other matters which might be noted, add a volume of unofficial declarations to the mass of organic utterances that this is a Christian nation." (Unanimous opinion, Feburary 29, 1892).

They were only saying that the majority of people here then and now consider themselves to be Christian. Our founding fathers never intended for the church to be separated from our government the way it is today. The original phrase from the constitution "Congress shall make no law respecting as establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof" only means that congress cannot establish a national religious denomination, such as Catholicism, Christianity, or any other denomination.

[Khaotic]

57. Our Founding Fathers Were Not Christians

http://freethought.mbdojo.com/foundingfathers.html

The following taken from the link above:

Our Founding Fathers Were Not Christians

One of the most common statements from the "Religious Right" is that they want this country to "return to the Christian principles on which it was founded". However, one only needs to do a little research into American history to discover that this statement is a lie. The men responsible for building the foundation of the United States had little use for Christianity, and many were strongly opposed to it. They were men of The Enlightenment, not Men of Christianity. They were Deists.

When the Founders wrote the nation's Constitution, they specified that "no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States." (Article 6, section 3) This provision was radical in its day-- giving equal citizenship to believers and non-believers alike. They wanted to ensure that no single religion could make the claim of being the official, national religion, such as England had. Nowhere in the Constitution does it mention religion, except in exclusionary terms. The words Jesus Christ, Christianity, Bible, and God are never mentioned in the Constitution.

The Declaration of Independence gives us important insight into the opinions of the Founding Fathers. Thomas Jefferson wrote that the power of the government is derived from the governed. Up until that time, it was claimed that kings ruled nations by the authority of God. The Declaration was a radical departure from the idea of divine authority.

<snip>

There's much more and it's worth while to check out the write up.

The modern day manipulation of religion has basically destroyed it for me. The closest thing to religion I think there might be left is "string theory." If you can provide me with scientific proof then I might perk up my ears, other than that there's a big chance that we're here until we die and that's that. If there are other planes of existance then we're wasting our time with religion and not figuring out the properties and abilities to make heads of tails what's actually out there. I mean, the Philidelphia Experiment is STILL classified. Chances are we'll never know why those poor sailors bodies were partially in bulkheads, overheads, and in the deck. Did that experiment stumble onto the ability to travel to another physical existence? Who knows, just pray and wait to die right? Shit.

[still_one]

54. the new Amerika

[woo me with science]

59. This is great

for Democrats. This is exactly the type of crap that is going to send moderates running away from Republicans and back to Democrats. This nation has NEVER been fond of one-party leadership, and this kind of overreaching is exactly what triggers the pendulum to start swinging back in the opposite direction. I hope we hear more and more of this as the elections draw near.

[Roland99]

60. Jesus H. Christ on a popsicle stick. These people are batshit insane.

Seriously, why don't all these Fund-A-Mental cases and pseudo-Christians go skydiving w/o parachutes?

[geniph]

61. Why in hell (pun intended)

is the state recognizing ANY religion?

[Megahurtz]

62. Holy Crap!

Literally.

What the hell is going on with these midwestern States?
And why are The People not allowed to vote on anything anymore?

Oh yeah now I remember.....

[Charlie Brown]

63. Missouri's Bill of Rights

There is NO WAY that this will stand.

http://www.moga.state.mo.us/const/A01007.HTM

Section 7. That no money shall ever be taken from the public treasury, directly or indirectly, in aid of any church, sect or denomination of religion, or in aid of any priest, preacher, minister or teacher thereof, as such; and that no preference shall be given to nor any discrimination made against any church, sect or creed of religion, or any form of religious faith or worship.

[VegasWolf]

64. Great. Now Allah will be pissed and smite Missouri with tornadoes! nt

[atlang]

102. The Missouri Resolution

Gee, I wonder what they will do with JESUS? AFTER ALL HE WAS A JEW! :)

[Jamison]

66. This isn't shocking at all to me.

I'm from Missouri, and I'm convinced that this is the reddest state in America.

[november3rd]

67. This is blatantly unconstitutional

Not to mention fascist and unAmerican.

[VegasWolf]

68. New justice Alito says bring the issue to me, I told you I would support

us xians.

[katty]

71. Thank God this issue is settled-I just couldn't sleep!

[Solon]

72. That's it, I'm calling my Democratic State Representative...

And telling him to bring about a new bill to have Missouri become a Discordian State. Hail Eris!!!! :evilgrin:

OK, in all seriousness, considering I'm not a Christian, this shit scares the shit out of me, but I'm still calling my rep, I like my idea after all.

[windy252]

75. Another day

My state embarasses me again.

[panzerfaust]

76. Can I, again, say I told you so?

What did that old piece of paper say?

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion ...

How Quaint.

God (Approved Christian Abrahamic version, of course) Bless

[superconnected]

77. Anything for Gilead.

Actually, I'm trying to figure out how to get out before I have to don the burqua.

[Roland99]

100. Gilead of Mid-World is no more. The world has "moved on"

:(

[lovuian]

79. "God wills it" you can hear the MO legislators yelling it

from the raftors... It shows how far South Dakota and Missouri has fallen
into the Crusader spell...

and those who oppose us are evildoers...

See how simple it is...

That man has not progressed since the day of the Crusades so dissapoints me...

dark Ages...

[Zhade]

82. And some scoff when we worry about infringement.

"It's only a meaningless phrase on the money."

"No one really cares about the Pledge, anyway."

"So they were crosses paid for by the state, so what?"

Well, guess what? You give these freaks an inch, they'll seize all the forward momentum they can.

[opiate69]

113. Pre-Fucking-cisely, Zhade.

[Guaranteed]

88. Next stop, Auschwitz, MO!

WHOOHOO!!

[DarleenMB]

91. Why is everyone so surprised?

I mean, really, why are you so shocked?

When Ronald Reagan was nominated to run for President, hubby and I woke up. We watched in horror as the right wing fundies began their takeover of the Republican party. 26 freakin' years ago!!! They did it right in front of everyone. They had training sessions on how to win elections (and this was long before the internet and DU, folks. We were aware of it so where were you?) without letting on their true agenda.

With asswipe in the Whitehouse, they have accelerated their push to shove their beliefs down our throats. Did you really think THE HANDMAID'S TALE was science fiction and made up out of thin air? Where do you think the author (sorry her name escapes me at the moment) got the idea? It's been a long time coming. I'm not saying I like it, just that I'm not surprised. Dismayed, yes, surprised and shocked, no.

[HockeyMom]

95. You are right

The Reagan Era also ushered in the arrival of Jerry Falwell and the then called Moral Majority. All this is just the culmination of that.

While older Americans became complacent, younger Americans grew up oblivious. And these people planned, schemed, and bided their time.

[Rainscents]

98. You're right!

Reagan also deregulated Radio wave... This is to get the right wing talk radio on the air wave without no balance and to brain wash people slowly. I am not shocked by what is going on as this whole thing got into high gill with Reagan.

[renegade000]

112. an excellent book

margaret atwood i believe

[NoodleyAppendage]

97. At some point we're going to need to start kicking some fundie ass...

I'm quite serious. Fascism is at our doorstep and unless we actively fight against the push the Dominionism process will continue unchecked.

JB

[VegasWolf]

99. "I am the Lord, you are my sheep! Leave your 10% tithe at the door on

your way out. "

:puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke:

[HuffleClaw]

104. surely this can't be remotely legal?

sounds to me like one more thing they want the 'new' supreme court to rubber stamp.

[ButterflyBlood]

105. Blatantly unconstitutional

Would be struck down in court in a nanosecond. And those righties actually claim they repsect the constitution. hah!

[ChairmanAgnostic]

107. "Say, Justice? Dobson here. I need a decision from you. . . "

[lovuian]

108. This is so they can get ready to Burn the witches again...

Its coming...

[Joey Liberal]

109. This bill is un-American

Just another step towards a church-state.

[fshrink]

110. Allahou akbar.

[KainNero]

111. wow talk about moving how many steps back?

Well wouldn't it be funny when they die, they find out that their religion wasnt the right one? I wonder what the spaghetti lord would say about this.

[Dem2theMax]

114. I just wrote to the *sshole. I swear, I'm ready to move.

To anywhere that doesn't say US of A.

I am so ashamed of this country.