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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 05:54 AM
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American arrested with weapons in Iraq-official
Edited on Tue Mar-14-06 06:05 AM by maddezmom
BAGHDAD (Reuters) - An American described as a security contractor has been arrested by police in a northern Iraqi town with weapons in his car, said a provincial official.


Abdullah Jebara, the Deputy Governor of Salahaddin province, told Reuters the man was arrested in Saddam Hussein's hometown of Tikrit on Monday.

The Joint Coordination Center between the U.S. and Iraqi military in Tikrit said the man it described as a security contractor working for a private company, possessed explosives which were found in his car. It said he was arrested on Tuesday.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060314/ts_nm/iraq_american_dc;_

Iraqi governor survives car bomb attack on convoy
13 Mar 2006 11:41:04 GMT

Source: Reuters

(adds details, previous BAGHDAD)

TIKRIT, Iraq , March 13 (Reuters) - The governor of Iraq's Salahaddin province survived a car bomb attack on his convoy on Monday in Saddam Hussein's hometown of Tikrit, police said.

They said Hamad al-Qaisi, a Sunni, was not hurt in the attack but five of his bodyguards were seriously wounded.

"The car bomb coincided with the trial of Saddam to convince people that he is the only person who can rule Iraq," said the governor's deputy, Abdullah Jebara.

more:http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L13124404.htm
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 06:04 AM
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1. CIA operative?
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 06:05 AM
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2. "police in a northern Iraqi town"
I never know what this means these days. This is just another article that doesn't have the essential fact nuggets it needs to make it meaty. I long for fact nuggets.
Like the answers to:
What security company?
What happening in Salahaddin province?
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 06:06 AM
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3. I just added another link...Tikrit is there
:)
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 06:12 AM
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4. link updated, he is in custody of US forces
~snip~
Abdullah Jebara, the Deputy Governor of Salahaddin province, told Reuters the man was arrested in Saddam Hussein's hometown of Tikrit on Monday. He was removed from the provincial government building by U.S. forces on Tuesday, Jebara said.
~snip~
The man was stopped by police for violating a daytime curfew in Tikrit, a security source said. American security personnel rarely travel alone.

U.S. officials had no immediate comment.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060314/ts_nm/iraq_american_dc_2
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 06:28 AM
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5. well there you have it....
no doubt at all who the guy was working for now is there?
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 05:21 AM
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32. Another CIA agent
Working as a contractor.

To Eliminate a few (insert racial epithet here)Heads with EXTREME PREJUDICE.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 10:18 AM
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9. Did the US use tanks?
He was removed from the provincial government building by U.S. forces...

Or was this outsourced to the British?
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 10:21 AM
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10. a tad more...the officials in Tikrit wouldn't take him into custody
The man, driving a BMW, was stopped by police for violating a daytime curfew in Tikrit, a security source said. American security personnel rarely travel alone.

A spokesman for the major crimes unit in Tikrit said the man was first brought to their headquarters but they refused to take him into custody.

The arresting police were told to take the man to the provincial council building, the spokesman said, where he was taken by American forces.

U.S. officials had no immediate comment.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060314/ts_nm/iraq_american_dc_3
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 10:47 AM
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13. Thanks!
:hi:

(Actually I was being a tad sarcastic :blush:)

the man was first brought to their headquarters but they refused to take him into custody.

Can you blame them? After what happened with the British commandos, the Iraqis probably didn't want another jail to rebuild.
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 11:20 AM
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16. "U.S. officials had no immediate comment." - hmm, - - think "rendition"
.
.
.

Which country would they be taking him to now?

AH!

The PNACers are building USA Military bases like crazy - they must have a spare room or two around right there in Iraq.

(sigh)

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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 06:28 AM
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6. Interesting. The Iraqis think that we Americans are at the bottom of
all this killing. They think we're stirring up all the troubles. They might be right.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 10:39 AM
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12. Bingo. This leads me to believe we could be behind
inciting all the killing going on, but what's in it for us? To blame it on Iran?
Whatever the answer is, it can't be good.
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 05:39 PM
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24. Bush has always said we won't leave until Iraq is stable. Well,...
...if he wants to stay (keep a foothold in the middle east and Iraqi oil fields and get ready to launch attacks against Iran) then the only way to do so is to make sure Iraq never get's "stable".
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RazzleDazzle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 07:59 PM
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25. I posted this on another thread, but I'll post it here too
Links for that Basra incident (remember that?), and a few links related to the notion of U.S. involvement:

Britain's captured soldiers allegedly spying on Iraqi prison torturer
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1853491&mesg_id=1853491
Link: http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20051016/wl_mideast_afp/britainiraqbasra

Those Not-So Very Mysterious British "Insurgents"
http://www.progressiveindependent.com/shalom/britishinsurgents.htm

SAS in secret war against Iranian agents
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1804566
Link: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/newspaper/0,,176-1796566,00.html

So what were two undercover British soldiers up to in Basra?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x159467
Link: http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/article314977.ece
also see: The US War with Iran has Already Begun
by Scott Ritter http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0620-31.htm

Scrap Basra police and start again orders MoD
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1803803#1803912
Link: http://news.scotsman.com/politics.cfm?id=1990832005

Those Not-So Very Mysterious British "Insurgents"
http://www.progressiveindependent.com/shalom/britishinsurgents.htm

I'm having trouble wrapping my mind around what happened in Basra (Will Pitt)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4837870#4837883

SO, WHAT are we to infer about the two British "soldiers?"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=4823586


Basra incident - a dot to connect (Rumsfeld's P2OG to foment terror)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4833722


SO, WHAT are we to infer about the two British "soldiers?"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4823586#4823600

Two British soldiers dressed as Arabs arrested over killing
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4819548&mesg_id=4819548
and: Proof that something strange is going on in Iraq
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4821425&mesg_id=4821425
Link: http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1573681,00.html
also: http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,16661037-38201,00.html


CIVIL WAR -- is it a GOOD thing? PNACers and their propaganda arms want to know.

Dahr Jamail...."Who Benefits?"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x193106#193113
Link: http://dahrjamailiraq.com/weblog/archives/dispatches/000365.php

FAUX News: All-Out Civil War in Iraq: Could It Be a Good Thing?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x510889
Link: http://mediamatters.org/items/200602240003

Many Iraqis Believe "Suicide" Bombings Done By US To Start Civil War (several good links)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5554171#5554406
Link: http://benfrank.net/blog/2005/09/17/suicide_bombers


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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 09:52 PM
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27. Nice work connecting the dots there...
Edited on Tue Mar-14-06 09:52 PM by file83
...and that is exactly what I'm talking about. These stories pop up and then disappear - and even though some gained more notariety than others, they usually just get passed off as "unimportant".

But the difference between people like us (you & me) and the general public is that we are AWARE of a larger context in which the stories fit. This doesn't mean we know exactly what's going on, just that we are AWARE there is a lot MORE going on than what most people think.

Once again, excellent work, I'm bookmarking that post of yours as a reference!
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RazzleDazzle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 12:02 AM
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28. Actually,
I was mostly just COLLECTING the dots.

Hahah.

I do have to say, though, that after all this time, esp. all the time I've been lurking and then eventually posting at DU, you develop a sixth sense -- oh hell, it's not even that esoteric. It's just enough EXPERIENCE with these weaselly fascists to know that what comes out in the press is NOT the whole truth and that if the Bush admin says one thing, more 'n likely the opposite is true, etc., etc.

IOW, we all pretty much know their MOD by now, don't we?
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Higans Donating Member (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 01:59 AM
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30. That's great. thanks for all the links.
You should definantly add this post to your journal if you have not allready.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 12:00 PM
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35. Thanks so much for posting these threads & links for those of us
who haven't been able to read nearly as much as we wanted about this, due to time problems. This is so very, very helpful.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 09:59 AM
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7. Reuters: U.S Contractor Busted With Arms In Iraq
Edited on Tue Mar-14-06 09:58 AM by Hissyspit
Via HLMungo at Daily Kos:

BREAKING - US Contractor Busted With Arms In Iraq
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060314/ts_nm/iraq_american_dc
BAGHDAD (Reuters) - An American described as a security contractor arrested by police in a northern Iraqi town was carrying weapons in his car, a provincial official said. Abdullah Jebara, the Deputy Governor of Salahaddin province, told Reuters the man was arrested in Saddam Hussein's hometown of Tikrit on Monday. He was removed from the provincial government building by U.S. forces on Tuesday, Jebara said. The Joint Coordination Center between the U.S. and Iraqi military in Tikrit said the man, whom it described as a security contractor working for a private company, possessed explosives which were found in his car. It said he was arrested on Tuesday. The man was stopped by police for violating a daytime curfew in Tikrit, a security source said. American security personnel rarely travel alone. U.S. officials had no immediate comment.


HL Mungo's diary :: ::
This is a day after Connie Rice was complaining about Iran being behind the violence in Iraq as she was trying to beat the drums for our next miltary adventure. Prepare for a new "Shock and Awe" campaign against ourselves.

The contactors in Iraq, from Haliburton to Custer Battles, have been associated with plenty of corruption. This tops it all.

Could all be explainable though. This could be a legitimate contractors evil twin.

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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 11:38 AM
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17. Round and Round the Mulberry bu$h
Edited on Tue Mar-14-06 12:14 PM by ClayZ
:nuke:
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thoughtanarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 10:05 AM
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8. I wonder if those explosives were...
"made in Iran"

:grr:


Recommended.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 10:23 AM
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11. Bush: Still trying to hide WMDs to justify his war...
One carload at a time.
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Jose Diablo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 10:49 AM
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14. I keep coming back to the news early in the war
about 300 tons of RDX missing from a warehouse in a remote place in Iraq. And how the military didn't guard or destroy the explosives (nobody told them to).

Where did the explosives go? According to reports, the warehouse was raided over a period of months by guys in pick-up trucks. Uh huh, right.

And now, we find the mercs are in the business of supplying weapons. To whom?

What happens to those caught doing this, why they are released to the military.
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libertypirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 10:54 AM
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15. Nothing left to blow up in Iraq, except people...
"possessed explosives which were found in his car."

Why does this man need explosives, in a place where there is only people left to blow up?
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951-Riverside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 03:00 PM
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18. He was probably on his way to blow up another mosque
Albert Zachery *nudge* *nudge*
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 04:06 PM
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19. giving a helping hand to the...
sectarian violence and civil war?
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 04:10 PM
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20. hmmmmmm
'security contractor'

had it been an iraqi the phrase would have been 'suspected terrorist, and he would not have been 'briefly held'.
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 05:37 PM
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23. Even more so, they would have called him an "insurgent" had he
been an Iraqi. He'd probably be at some Army interrogation center with cables hooked up to his nuts right now if he wasn't on the BushCo payroll.
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wordpix2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 04:11 PM
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21. not enough info to figure this out but very interesting--lots of possibili
ties
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file83 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 05:28 PM
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22. This is a MAJOR find. "Explosives" are OFFENSIVE weapons...
...not to be used by "security" (defensive) contractors.

This guy is obviously doing something covert. But of course, this story will blow over like all the rest of these kinds of stories do...

And people scoffed when the Iranian leader recently accused the US of being involved in covert bombing operations inside Iraq to further their cause of staying there. :eyes:
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RazzleDazzle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 08:07 PM
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26. you might find my post upthread of interest
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 01:01 AM
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29. Related thread:
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 04:49 AM
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31. We have met the terra'ist and he is us!
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Lopakhin Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 05:33 AM
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33. Change in yahoo story
Could I just say that the original Yahoo article you link to seems to have been changed since you linked? But the second link you posted does contain the original material.
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donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-17-06 11:35 AM
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34. "security contractor working for a private company, possessed explosives"
But for purely defensive purposes. This whole privatization of war is a boondoggle. We won't know who's doing what to whom over there. It'll be a nightmare for years to come, and the only interests not being represented in this mess are those of the American people.
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