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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 08:41 AM
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Mass grave reveals more Iraq victims

http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/mass-grave-reveals-more-iraq-victims/2006/03/15/1142098528944.html

Mass grave reveals more Iraq victims

FOUL odour at a children's soccer match in the suburbs of Baghdad has led to the discovery of another mass grave on a day when at least 87 victims of the death squads that now work the capital were delivered to the city morgue.

The children led police to a shallow pit in the south-eastern suburb of Kamaliya. All 29 victims were bound, blindfolded and had recently been shot.

Hours later, in the eastern district of Rustamiyah, 15 more bodies were found on the back of an abandoned pick-up truck. Wire marks on their necks suggested they had been strangled.

Security sources told The Age that the 15 were believed to have been among 50 Sunni guards abducted from a Baghdad security firm in mysterious circumstances last week. Forces attached to Iraq's Interior Ministry are believed to have mounted the daylight raid.


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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 08:47 AM
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1. Iraq's Interior Ministry = BushCo Goons
Skull & Boner Evildoery
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 09:43 AM
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6. John Negroponte's WORK
He is teacjhing themn to kill the opposition

Like he did when hee killed the Nuns in Central America a few years ago
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 10:54 AM
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8. The Salvadorian Option
Negroponte proposed it, Bush approved it and Negroponte put it into action.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 01:36 PM
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9. ONE WAY TO GET RID OF YOUR CRITICS
Or anyone else likely to Resist.

Simply Blow their brains out.

And bury them in an unmarked pit

Thanks John Negroponte
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 04:02 PM
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13. SSDD
Negroponte's Time In Honduras at Issue

After winning the 1980 election, President Ronald Reagan needed someone reliable in Honduras to replace Jack R. Binns, a Carter administration holdover. The new ambassador would coordinate a huge increase in military assistance, from $3.9 million in 1980 to $77.4 million in 1984. Negroponte had hawkish credentials: A former aide to Henry A. Kissinger, he had criticized his patron for making too many concessions to the North Vietnamese in the previous decade.

Before his departure, Binns had sent cables to Washington warning of some ominous human rights trends. Gen. Gustavo Alvarez Martinez, who was selected to be commander in chief of the Honduran armed forces, told Binns privately that "extralegal" methods might be necessary to "take care" of subversives, declassified State Department documents show. He praised the "Argentine method" of dealing with the problem, which Binns took to refer to the kidnappings and disappearances of thousands of government opponents.

In June 1981, Binns cabled the State Department to say that he was "deeply concerned at increasing evidence of officially sponsored/sanctioned assassinations," which suggested that the repressive policies Alvarez favored were being implemented "much faster than we anticipated." The State Department's response, Binns said, was to instruct him to use "back channels," meaning the CIA, to report on sensitive human rights issues that could create problems for Honduras if they were leaked to Congress or the media.

A 1994 report by Oscar Valladares, a lawyer appointed by the Honduran parliament to investigate human rights abuse, blamed the Honduran army and the contras for 174 disappearances and kidnappings in the 1980s. Most of the incidents took place before the March 1984 ouster of Alvarez as armed forces chief.

The kidnapping of Manfredo Velasquez in September 1981, a few weeks before Negroponte arrived in Honduras, established what would be a familiar pattern. A university student and left-wing political activist, Velasquez was seized in daylight in a public parking lot by several men in civilian clothes, one of whom was later identified as a Honduran police sergeant. They bundled him into a car, and he was never seen again.

According to a November 1985 CIA report, which has since been partly declassified, the kidnapping was the work of the Honduran Anti-Communist Liberation Army, or ELACH. A 1997 CIA study identified ELACH as a "death squad" with close ties to a special security unit reporting to Alvarez.


‘The Salvador Option’

Updated: 8:59 p.m. ET Jan. 14, 2005

Jan. 8 - What to do about the deepening quagmire of Iraq? The Pentagon’s latest approach is being called "the Salvador option"—and the fact that it is being discussed at all is a measure of just how worried Donald Rumsfeld really is. "What everyone agrees is that we can’t just go on as we are," one senior military officer told NEWSWEEK. "We have to find a way to take the offensive against the insurgents. Right now, we are playing defense. And we are losing." Last November’s operation in Fallujah, most analysts agree, succeeded less in breaking "the back" of the insurgency—as Marine Gen. John Sattler optimistically declared at the time—than in spreading it out.

Now, NEWSWEEK has learned, the Pentagon is intensively debating an option that dates back to a still-secret strategy in the Reagan administration’s battle against the leftist guerrilla insurgency in El Salvador in the early 1980s. Then, faced with a losing war against Salvadoran rebels, the U.S. government funded or supported "nationalist" forces that allegedly included so-called death squads directed to hunt down and kill rebel leaders and sympathizers. Eventually the insurgency was quelled, and many U.S. conservatives consider the policy to have been a success—despite the deaths of innocent civilians and the subsequent Iran-Contra arms-for-hostages scandal. (Among the current administration officials who dealt with Central America back then is John Negroponte, who is today the U.S. ambassador to Iraq. Under Reagan, he was ambassador to Honduras. There is no evidence, however, that Negroponte knew anything about the Salvadoran death squads or the Iran-Contra scandal at the time. The Iraq ambassador, in a phone call to NEWSWEEK on Jan. 10, said he was not involved in military strategy in Iraq. He called the insertion of his name into this report "utterly gratuitous.")

Following that model, one Pentagon proposal would send Special Forces teams to advise, support and possibly train Iraqi squads, most likely hand-picked Kurdish Peshmerga fighters and Shiite militiamen, to target Sunni insurgents and their sympathizers, even across the border into Syria, according to military insiders familiar with the discussions. It remains unclear, however, whether this would be a policy of assassination or so-called "snatch" operations, in which the targets are sent to secret facilities for interrogation. The current thinking is that while U.S. Special Forces would lead operations in, say, Syria, activities inside Iraq itself would be carried out by Iraqi paramilitaries, officials tell NEWSWEEK.


El Salvador-style 'death squads' to be deployed by US against Iraq militants

THE Pentagon is considering forming hit squads of Kurdish and Shia fighters to target leaders of the Iraqi insurgency in a strategic shift borrowed from the American struggle against left-wing guerrillas in Central America 20 years ago.

Under the so-called “El Salvador option”, Iraqi and American forces would be sent to kill or kidnap insurgency leaders, even in Syria, where some are thought to shelter.

<snip>

John Negroponte, the US Ambassador in Baghdad, had a front-row seat at the time as Ambassador to Honduras from 1981-85.

Death squads were a brutal feature of Latin American politics of the time. In Argentina in the 1970s and Guatemala in the 1980s, soldiers wore uniform by day but used unmarked cars by night to kidnap and kill those hostile to the regime or their suspected sympathisers.

In the early 1980s President Reagan’s Administration funded and helped to train Nicaraguan contras based in Honduras with the aim of ousting Nicaragua’s Sandinista regime. The Contras were equipped using money from illegal American arms sales to Iran, a scandal that could have toppled Mr Reagan.

It was in El Salvador that the United States trained small units of local forces specifically to target rebels.

The thrust of the Pentagon proposal in Iraq, according to Newsweek, is to follow that model and direct US special forces teams to advise, support and train Kurdish Peshmerga fighters and Shia militiamen to target leaders of the Sunni insurgency.


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spartan61 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 08:54 AM
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2. And the bushco regime wants us to believe that
things in Iraq are going well?
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 08:56 AM
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3. Refresh my memory someone.
Was there not a big question of US involvement in the abduction of those Sunni guards last week?
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 08:58 AM
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4. Nevermind, I found the thread
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 09:30 AM
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5. Well, we now know that
the "mass grave producers" are back in business after their self-imposed coffee break after 1992 . . .
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genie_weenie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 09:45 AM
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7. Demockery is on The March!!!
Huzzah!
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 01:50 PM
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10. Any news yet on them "millions mass-graved" by Hussein?
No, didn't think so.

Sure a lot of recent mass graves poppoig up tho. Thank gawd bush rescued them poor Iraqis from Hussein!!!

Rightwingnuts; stupidest MFers alive.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 03:35 PM
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12. Only a few 'mass' graves were ever found.
Bush has created more mass graves in the last 4 years, then Saddam created in 30. That's for sure.

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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 06:04 PM
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14. Agreed.
bush; worse than Hussein.

The world knows it...wonder when the US majority will ever learn the fact?
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sattahipdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 06:56 PM
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17. Only sadness
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 02:49 PM
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11. kick
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oblivious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 06:41 PM
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15. and recommend.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 06:46 PM
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16. This is obviously a mass suicide!
There is no civil war in Iraq. Things are getting better! Pentagon is sending more troops for the upcoming victory parade.

:sarcasm:
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Terran1212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 07:12 PM
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18. Liberated Iraq!
Can you smell the democracy?
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