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PhilipShore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:26 PM
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Government Recommends Stocking Up on Canned Tuna
Yahoo! News (press release)
Government Recommends Stocking Up on Canned Tuna
Mar 16, 2006

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/060316/dcth045.html?.v=49

New HHS Checklist Advises Buying Extra Canned Tuna to Prepare for the Possibility of a Flu Pandemic

WASHINGTON, March 16 /PRNewswire/ -- Got enough canned tuna on hand? You should, according to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), which just published new recommendations encouraging consumers to prepare for the possibility of a bird flu outbreak by stocking up on canned tuna and other healthy, nutritious canned foods and juices.

In conjunction with the release of a new Pandemic Planning Update report issued on March 13, HHS has published a series of checklists to aid in influenza preparations, including a Pandemic Flu Planning Checklist for Individuals and Families. Among the recommendations listed, HHS advises consumers to have adequate stores of canned tuna and other ready-to-eat meats, fruits, vegetables and soups as well as canned juices, bottled water, canned baby food and pet food.

Stating that no one in the world is prepared for an influenza pandemic, HHS Secretary Michael Leavitt said, "When you go to the store and buy three cans of tuna fish, buy a fourth and put it under the bed. When you go to the store to buy some milk, pick up a box of powdered milk. Put it under the bed. When you do that for a period of four to six months, you are going to have a couple of weeks of food, and that's what we're talking about."

But canned tuna is much more than a convenient, ready-to-eat food, which is why consumers looking for healthy, nutritious sources of lean protein will also see a can of tuna on "MyPyramid," the new food guidance system recently introduced by the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) to help consumers meet the recommendations contained in the 2005 Dietary Guidelines for Americans. Reflecting a key recommendation of the guidelines calling for consumers to eat two eight-ounce servings a week of foods rich in the omega-3 fatty acids EPA (eicosapentaenoic acid) and DHA (docosahexaenoic acid), "MyPyramid" features canned tuna to drive home the message that fish is an excellent source of omega-3 fatty acids. Of the top 10 most commonly consumed fish in this country, salmon and canned albacore tuna have the highest levels of the omega- 3 fatty acid DHA, according to the USDA Nutritional Database.

The 2005 Dietary Guidelines for Americans also urge consumers to consume lower-fat protein sources, which is why "MyPyramid" features canned tuna along with lean meats and poultry, beans, peas, nuts and seeds. In fact, canned tuna is so high in protein that one six-ounce can yields one-third of the recommended daily amount. Moreover, canned tuna is very low in calories compared to other protein sources. There are 116 calories in a 100-gram serving of water-packed canned tuna compared with 208 calories in the same serving of turkey. According to "MyPyramid," adults and children over age 2 should consume 5 1/2 ounces of lean protein every day.

"The fact that a can of tuna is featured in the food pyramid reinforces what nutrition experts have known for years," said Barbara J. Moore, Ph.D., president and CEO of Shape Up America! and a member of the Tuna Nutrition Council, which advises the U.S. Tuna Foundation (USTF) on nutrition and public health matters. "Not only is canned tuna a rich source of the essential omega- 3 fatty acids, but it is low in fat, rich in certain vitamins and minerals and an excellent source of protein."

According to experts working with HHS on flu pandemic planning, the best way for families to plan ahead is to have adequate supplies of nonperishable foods, water and other essentials on hand, which is also useful in other types of emergencies, such as power outages and storms. HHS's Pandemic Flu Planning Checklist for Individuals and Families is available on the agency's Web site at http://www.pandemicflu.gov.

More information about canned tuna and its health benefits is available at the USTF Web site, http://www.tunafacts.com.

Established in 1976, the U.S. Tuna Foundation (USTF) is the national organization representing the canned tuna processors and the fishermen who supply them and addresses issues ranging from fishing access arrangements to federal and state regulations and domestic marketing.


Source: U.S. Tuna Foundation

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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:28 PM
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1. Plastic sheets, duct tape, and tuna. Got it. n/t
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:32 PM
Response to Reply #1
14. Don't forget the powdered milk. n/t
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 01:00 PM
Response to Reply #14
40. Every time I open the canned tuna--The Cat goes Nuts
The cat would have nightmares if it knew I had a dozen unopened cans of tuna

I hope the Chimp some how does not communicate his suggestion to the Cat.
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 02:34 PM
Response to Reply #40
71. so what happens when the can opener goes off
and you've only opened some pineapple? :evilgrin:
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 02:55 PM
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80. The Cat comes running whenever I open a can now
Edited on Thu Mar-16-06 02:55 PM by saigon68
Pavlov had an experiment about this I believe
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 04:55 PM
Response to Reply #40
96. The cat won't go nuts if you give him some of the tuna
At least that's my experience with my cat.
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TaleWgnDg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:43 PM
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27. Uuummmm, what's the sub-title to this glorious idea:
Uuummmm, what's the sub-title to this glorious idea:
    HHS's RECOMMENDS STOCK'G UP ON MERCURY CONTAMINANTS FOR FAMILY USE INCLUDING PREGNANT WOMEN
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 01:09 PM
Response to Reply #27
44. Right. Here's a link to a table by the EPA about how much tuna
can be eaten safely:

http://www.nrdc.org/health/effects/mercury/tuna.asp

Suffice it to say, you shouldn't be eating that tuna every day.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 01:50 PM
Response to Reply #44
59. YOU WILL GLOW IN THE DARK
If you eat more than one can every 4 days
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 02:00 PM
Response to Reply #59
64. That might be a helpful side effect. You won't have to need
so many batteries if the lights go out. Whee!

:bounce:
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 04:16 PM
Response to Reply #44
91. Thanks for the link Arkansas Granny.
I don't eat it more than twice a week anyway, so I guess it's ok, although I imagine as the world becomes more polluted, they may have to update their recommendations.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 05:01 PM
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99. Don't forget to clean out all the clutter under your bed.
Edited on Thu Mar-16-06 05:03 PM by KansDem
Stating that no one in the world is prepared for an influenza pandemic, HHS Secretary Michael Leavitt said, "When you go to the store and buy three cans of tuna fish, buy a fourth and put it under the bed. When you go to the store to buy some milk, pick up a box of powdered milk. Put it under the bed. When you do that for a period of four to six months, you are going to have a couple of weeks of food, and that's what we're talking about."

Gotta have a place to store all this!
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vademocrat Donating Member (962 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:29 PM
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2. Alright, who in this admin is making money off of canned tuna?
Remember Tom Ridge and the duct tape? I think he had a connection to Home Depot...

I don't trust anything these SOBs say or do!
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katmondoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:31 PM
Response to Reply #2
12. The mercury level and cholesterol level in tuna
is very high. However soon we won't know because food labels will no longer be required
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:38 PM
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23. Alcoa. They make the cans.
They gave $300,000 to Bush and IIRC one of his cabinet member was the head of Alcoa and refused to place his stock in a blind trust.
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 01:04 PM
Response to Reply #23
42. How would this work, exactly?
In the case of a bird flu, people can't leave their homes? I thought that the gov. just gives out vaccines or culls birds, or whatever. This seems to be envisioning some scenario where people won't be able to leave their homes for a week. Is it typical to have a mandatory curfew because of a flu?
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 01:15 PM
Response to Reply #42
47. No, we are supposed to be soooo afraid, that we won't risk
going out to the store. Because there might be people with germs (gasp!) at the store!
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 01:19 PM
Response to Reply #47
51. oooh, I see
That duct tape will also come in handy to seal out the germy people. It's just a silly "plan" & makes me think this was just put out mostly to scare people. Actually, I hope that's all it is. Cause if tuna is seriously the gov.'s plan to deal w/bird flu, that's even scarier.
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alarcojon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 01:17 PM
Response to Reply #42
49. I was wondering the same thing
Is the government plan to quarantine everyone in the country for weeks or months if the bird flu mutates to the dangerous, transmissible form in humans? If so, why don't they come out and say it?

What will happen to the tap water supply? The power supply?

Or is this just what will happen, with people voluntarily staying home indefinitely in the hopes of riding it out?
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 01:28 PM
Response to Reply #49
55. Good questions
I don't know. That's what's odd. We're not given any specific evacuation or quarantine plans, told what utilities could be affected, or what safety measures to take to prevent infection. We're just told: Buy Tuna. That's not a plan, that's an ad slogan.
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 01:29 PM
Response to Reply #42
56. This might explain some of these concerns. It seems that Bush
signed a bill that gives the Dept. of Defense funds to deal with the avian flu epidemic, among other things.

"President's Statement on Signing of H.R. 2863, the "Department of Defense, Emergency Supplemental Appropriations to Address Hurricanes in the Gulf of Mexico, and Pandemic Influenza Act, 2006"

Today, I have signed into law H.R. 2863, the "Department of Defense, Emergency Supplemental Appropriations to Address Hurricanes in the Gulf of Mexico, and Pandemic Influenza Act, 2006." The Act provides resources needed to fight the war on terror, help citizens of the Gulf States recover from devastating hurricanes, and protect Americans from a potential influenza pandemic."

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/12/20051230-8.html

This is purely conjecture at this point, but I've heard it kicked around that if DOD is involved, we may be confronted with martial law to enforce quarantines on the pretext of stopping the spread of the flu.

These recommendations and the reports that we've heard about Halliburton winning a contract for detention camps bring up all sorts of images. Do I have my tin foil hat on too tight?



:tinfoilhat:
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 03:15 PM
Response to Reply #56
84. O my freaking god did you read that whole thing?????
The executive branch shall construe section 8104, relating to integration of foreign intelligence information, in a manner consistent with the President's constitutional authority as Commander in Chief, including for the conduct of intelligence operations, and to supervise the unitary executive branch. Also, the executive branch shall construe sections 8106 and 8119 of the Act, which purport to prohibit the President from altering command and control relationships within the Armed Forces, as advisory, as any other construction would be inconsistent with the constitutional grant to the President of the authority of Commander in Chief.

The executive branch shall construe Title X in Division A of the Act, relating to detainees, in a manner consistent with the constitutional authority of the President to supervise the unitary executive branch and as Commander in Chief and consistent with the constitutional limitations on the judicial power, which will assist in achieving the shared objective of the Congress and the President,....the executive branch shall construe Title X not to create a private right of action. Finally, given the decision of the Congress reflected in subsections 1005(e) and 1005(h) that the amendments made to section 2241 of title 28, United States Code, shall apply to past, present, and future actions, including applications for writs of habeas corpus, described in that section, and noting that section 1005 does not confer any constitutional right upon an alien detained abroad as an enemy combatant, the executive branch shall construe section 1005 to preclude the Federal courts from exercising subject matter jurisdiction over any existing or future action, including applications for writs of habeas corpus, described in section 1005.


Language in Division B of the Act, under the heading "Office of Justice Programs, State and Local Law Enforcement Assistance," purports to require the Attorney General to consult congressional committees prior to allocating appropriations for expenditure to execute the law. Because the President's constitutional authority to supervise the unitary executive branch and take care that the laws be faithfully executed cannot be made by law subject to a requirement to consult with congressional committees or to involve them in executive decision-making, the executive branch shall construe the provision to require only notification. At the same time, the Attorney General shall, as a matter of comity between the executive and legislative branches, seek and consider the views of appropriate committees in this matter as the Attorney General deems appropriate.

He's a freaking dictator according to this document. He answers to no one and the Congress and courts mean nothing to him.
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 04:32 PM
Response to Reply #84
93. Yes, I did read it and yes, he wants to be a dictator.
That's why I find the reports of Halliburton and detention camps so frightening.
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BrightKnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 06:17 PM
Response to Reply #93
102. Rumsfeld was COB of Gilead Sciences (Tamiflu) & bought $18 mil stock
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=ENG20051106&articleId=1190

If Rumsfeld holds the controlling interest and is the Secretary of Defense, Who would control the distribution?

You don't need a foil hat to find that troubling.



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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 01:50 PM
Response to Reply #23
60. That's the fellow that Bush kicked out
I can't remember the name off-hand, but he's the guy who went to Africa with Bono. Oddly enough, he may have actually be competent (albeit a Republican) , which is why he wa a poor fit for the Bush white House.
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 02:51 PM
Response to Reply #23
78. Thanks. Knew it could be traced to buscho.
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Nostradammit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 02:28 PM
Response to Reply #2
68. Doesn't Sun Yung Moon own half the fishing fleet in the world?
And isn't he buddy-buddy with the Bushes?
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FoxNewsSucks Donating Member (236 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:29 PM
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3. Who's profiteering from this?
We know Rumsfeld will make millions from the sale of TamiFlu, but who in the criminal Bush administration has stock in fishing or tuna canning companies?

Follow the money!!

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Dunvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:30 PM
Response to Reply #3
6. So who in the White House has a lock on tuna sales?
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:38 PM
Response to Reply #3
24. Alcoa. See my post above. n/t
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:30 PM
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4. Translation:
Tuna sales are down, due to reports of elevated Mercury levels.

So pH33r.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:30 PM
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5. Canned Salmon is just as cheap and much better for you
And no dolphens are ever harmed. Also the Salmon industry is completely an American industry while Tuna is largly foreign owned vessels.
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PhilipShore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:35 PM
Response to Reply #5
19. Thanks, I was looking for an alternative to tuna...
because of all the Mercury in it; I will buy - a 30 day supply - of canned Salmon.
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oscar111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:36 PM
Response to Reply #5
20. really cheaper? nt
xxxxx
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:51 PM
Response to Reply #5
34. Dr. Andrew Weil sez canned salmon w/bones strengthens YOUR bones
http://www.drweil.com/u/Page/General403/

"... Calcium: eat more dairy foods, dark leafy greens such as kale and collards, broccoli, canned salmon with bones, sardines, and dried figs. Also look for calcium-fortified foods such as soy milk and cereals.
Vitamin D: get more oily fish (wild Alaskan salmon or sardines are good choices), fortified soy milk, orange juice and cereals into your diet."



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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 01:03 PM
Response to Reply #34
41. Lots of Omega 3 in Salmon and that is good for the brain as well
as the heart. Omega 3 they are finding out is a very critical part of good health. The brain is over sixty percent fatty material and Omega 3 is very important especially for Depression or Alzheimer's or ADD or many many other brain disorders.
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 01:17 PM
Response to Reply #41
50. "The brain is over sixty percent fatty material" ... well, that explains
a lot ... especially how George W. Bush could get enough votes to make his two stolen elections seem plausible to some.

Fatty material between the ears of many Americans.
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 04:57 PM
Response to Reply #34
97. Brilliant! Eat more bones!!
and then hope someone knows the Heimlich maneuver when you choke on them!
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 04:10 PM
Response to Reply #5
90. There are some concerns about farmed salmon parasites
There are concerns on the west coast that sea lice from farmed salmon are infesting wild salmon, among other environmental concerns. Just for the record.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 05:15 PM
Response to Reply #90
100. I don't believe they are canning farmed fish though
Sort of takes away the whole appeal of Fresh fish any time any place. That is the only thing farmed fish has over commercial caught fish. The Commercial fleet is limited to Seasons and Government meddling such as area closures and openings so can't deliver a fresh product year round. The product it does deliver is hands down a much better product in all regards. Taste, health factor and appearance. They have to dye farmed fish just so they will look natural. Not to mention the chemicals they feed those fish while in their holding pens. They also live directly above all their bodily waste. I wouldn't touch a farmed fish with a ten foot pole but that's just me...
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 06:45 PM
Response to Reply #100
103. I am not sure whether farmed fish gets canned or not
I would hope it would say on the label, but I don't know for sure.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 07:44 PM
Response to Reply #5
110. Don't tuna and salmon have about the same mercury contamination?
Otherwise excellent food sources that are too dangerous to eat everyday.
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oscar111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:30 PM
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7. MERCURY accusation by FDA last week
be careful..
tuna companies accused of sneaking hi mercury species into mislabeled low merc brand tins.
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:33 PM
Response to Reply #7
16. What are the chances this DHS recommendation is trying to make amends?
Pretty high, I'd guess. Last week consumers were told it was bad, this week the tuna lobbyists fought back.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:30 PM
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8. Here's the thing -
Edited on Thu Mar-16-06 12:31 PM by sparosnare
IF and WHEN (and I stress those words) an avian flu pandemic occurs, and if it's bad, people must be able to quarantine themselves for perhaps months at a time and will need a stockpile of supplies.

We cannot depend on any government agency in a worst case scenario and must take care of ourselves.

Not sure why they're pushing tuna though. Plenty of other canned stuff with nutritious value - canned chicken's pretty good.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:31 PM
Response to Original message
9. In Other Words....
Fed Gov: your on your own poor peons.
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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:31 PM
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10. HOW US RETAILERS GET RICH ON TUNA
Despite the lowest tuna prices in 30 years the consumer is generally not seeing lower pricing. While chains are paying about 33 cents for 6 oz Chunk light the retail shelf price continues to be 69 - 79 cents. Even "two for $1.00" is rare. This is not unique to tuna, we are seeing it across most private label categories.

What this seems to add up to is that the USA market is in another changing cycle which is going to be very difficult on the vendor community. Retailers are not interested in moving cases as they used to be , but in making the greatest profit for themselves. They know that they may sell less cases but will make more absolute dollars. They also know that if they do not move the cases, the vendor will be in a weak position with excess inventories that he cannot move and therefore will be in a weak negotiating position. It is a short term mentality as it will cause many suppliers to exit the business ultimately resulting in even higher costs to the retailer and his consumer.

Over time the same high profit margins will allow for the return of the independent grocer who has been nearly eliminated. Wholesale grocers are already moving into this retail niche. The cycle has been seen many times over the years and will repeat itself. The difficulty for the tuna industry is that fishing does not seem that it will decline. No one is willing to exit the catching industry. Even if prices increase, retailers may become accustomed to the high margins and may take the shelf price up with the market. It may be years before we see a return to a normal competitive retail market in the USA.

http://www.atuna.com/Opinions/My%20Opinion/Archive/how_us_retailes.htm
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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:31 PM
Response to Reply #10
11. Carlyle must havE bought "Chicken of the Sea"
Edited on Thu Mar-16-06 12:34 PM by iconoclastNYC
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 01:24 PM
Response to Reply #11
54. Ya know? I think there's something to what you're saying.
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:32 PM
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13. As IF I would do anything those skunks told me...
I think they want us all to get sick with mercury poisoning.
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 01:13 PM
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46. Wouldn't surprise me either. nt
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Debau2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:32 PM
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15. PUT IT UNDER THE BED?
WTF??

Please tell me I am still dreaming and that we are not actually getting advice like this!
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:52 PM
Response to Reply #15
36. Mmmm ... tuna, powdered milk and dust bunny casserole!
That's what you'd get under MY bed!
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 01:51 PM
Response to Reply #15
61. I know - the absurdity of this all is a sign of a government that is
Edited on Thu Mar-16-06 01:53 PM by smirkymonkey
so completely insane they actually believe they are making sense when they issue ridiculous dictums.

Tuna under the fucking bed. What the hell kind of advice is that?

Why not Pop Tarts behind the sofa or Kraft Mac & Cheese in the linen closet? I mean, it's SOOO arbitrary! :eyes:
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mikeytherat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 04:04 PM
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88. Jars of peanut butter in the laundry hamper!
Cans of kipper snacks under the coffee table!

Jars of preserves under your shoe rack!

That's it - I'm starting a whole thread in the Lounge about this!

mikey_the_rat
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 07:29 PM
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109. You've got it!
It's kind of fun, isn't it? :)
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mikeytherat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 04:00 PM
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87. Apparently, they want us to feed our cats!
If I had 60 cans of tuna under the bed, I'd always know the exact location of all three members of Team Meow!

mikey_the_rat
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:33 PM
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17. Making my list!
Checking it twice.

I just thought I'd buy myself a few chickens and start my own little subsistance farm. :sarcasm: Maybe I'll do a Koi pond instead. Put some tuna in it.

Mz Pip
:dem:

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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:37 PM
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21. Nope, can't get chickens
bird flu, remember? Got to get tuna and put that in the pond.

Seriously, I gave away my 14 hens and a rooster because I don't want to be there when the guys in the white coats and masks come.

I really miss geese, though. I was going to get six goslings this spring but I'll give it another try next year, hopefully, when this thing passes.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:44 PM
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30. I worry about my cats
Edited on Thu Mar-16-06 12:45 PM by Mz Pip
One of them is a feral I rescued as a kitten. She's quite affectionate to me but still loves to hunt stuff and brings me the spoils of her conquests. The dead rats are a good thing, but the birds could certainly become problematic.

If it was just our incompetent government yammering about this I might not be concerned but it seems to be raising red flags world wide.

Sarcasm aside, it's not a bad idea to stock up for an emergency. We have supplies in case of an earthquake. Getting extra stuff might not be a bad idea.

Mz Pip
:dem:
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:51 PM
Original message
I agree about stocking up
while I think most of us also agree that Bushco is not above using this as a smoke screen, it is also big news in other countries as well. So we should not poo-poo it too much. Well, we can poo-poo it but we should be somewhat ready, I guess.

My biggest worry is blood pressure meds. I take two and if I suddenly stop taking them, not good. And there are a few other meds that would be very uncomfortable to stop. I have read that in cases of interruption of usual supplies, that is the biggest problem: prescription meds. I'm not quite sure how to "stock" up on them as my hmo only pays for one a month and they are mega expensive without that insurance.
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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 02:04 PM
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66. Fellow Grannie, did you
check with your HMO about getting a 3-month supply through the mail? My HMO will give you 3 months' supply for most meds that way.
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 02:44 PM
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72. I'm toying with that idea, myself
but I live on the Gulf Coast and the idea of my meds sitting on the porch all day in 90-degree heat is none too appealing. OTOH, having subpotent thyroid meds would be better than having none at all...
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 02:46 PM
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74. REALLY?
I'll get on the phone right away and check. That would be wonderful. Much more convenient, too.
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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 04:45 PM
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94. I hope your HMO has the service.
You have to get your doctor to write the prescription for this. He or she will have to triple the amount and say it is a 3-month supply, I believe. We are going to do this for my husband's meds for the convenience but haven't gotten around to it yet.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:34 PM
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18. I think it's the "put it under the bed" part that really gets to me.
OK, having emergency supplies on hand is a good thing. I get it. But Michael Leavitt needs to let me decide what is the best place in my house to keep them.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:44 PM
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28. If you have that strain of flu, you won't be leaving your bedroom.
Make sure there's a bedpan and a healthy person to help change it down there, too.

You can buy the Canned Personal Assistant in the Domestic Help section at Wal*Mart and other major retailers.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 01:10 PM
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45. If you have the flu, you won't want to eat that tuna.
Meanwhile, any healthy people that are still in the house have to enter the sickroom to get their supplies. Not too smart.
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 02:48 PM
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75. It's not safe enough in the kitchen!
Don't you understand? Me either.
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joefree1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:37 PM
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22. I think I'll just keep my passport ready
Bird flu is the last of my worries with this administration.

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sutz12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:38 PM
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25. I have always supported....
some form of gun control.

Now, I'm starting to think that a Glock and a few hundred rounds might be a wise investment.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:48 PM
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32. Why? Afraid of Flu-ravaged looters coming for your canned tuna?
Or, is the Glock to shoot down the black helicopters that carry squads of Ninja USDA food inspectors?;-)
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drfresh Donating Member (424 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:40 PM
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26. Tuna fish IS good..
..and contains fatty Omega 3 acids, which help fight depression and mental illness, which is very useful while living through this Administration.
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Sadie5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:50 PM
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33. Tuna price will go through the roof
The price is already rising. Myself, I wouldn't put it past this bunch to have captured a few squawking chickens in Asia someplace, then inject them with the virus. All they had to do then was to sit back and wait while issuing a few dire warnings. Look at the money they are making off of this.
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ldf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 04:27 PM
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92. the virus will mutate from birds to humans
just as soon as we can arrange it. we are working on it in our labs, as we speak.

i would post the sarcasm smilie, but i don't trust these criminals, period. if they can make money off of it, they will do it.

besides, it is just another angle of the terra terra terra warnings. we MUST be afraid, so they can get away with all their nefarious plans...
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:44 PM
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29. Get awful HUNGRY on just 12 Oz. a WEEK.
That's the Fed guidline for non-pregnant adults. "up to 12 ounces per week..."
Now I checked, and that's for "Chunk Light Tuna" ONLY. About 12 ppM of Mercury.

But I think Chunk Light looks, smells, and tastes like BAIT nowadays, so I eat albacore. 36 ppM of the silver shit, so I extrapolated that to mean FOUR ounces a week are "safe".

Somebody in the Tuna Industry owns a Congress-Critter who is owed a favour by somebody in the Department of Duck-Tape and Visqueen...
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central scrutinizer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:45 PM
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31. Starkist IRA - sell your Beanie Babies and stock up on tuna!!!
nfm
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:51 PM
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35. Leavitt, former EPA administrator covered up merc danger
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wordpix2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:59 PM
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39. Ok, that explains this warning, thanks-& may I add: F**$$ing Bush bastards
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 02:46 PM
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73. Why, yes you may...
:patriot:
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patdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:57 PM
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37. I only have two beds in my house and one is a platform, so first I have
to buy more beds in order to put the tuna and powered milk under. :grr: Of course my 900 sq bunker is housing my duct tape and plastic so I am glad I do not have to put the tuna and milk THERE! OMFG...is the AVERAGE age of Americans 3?
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magpie Donating Member (96 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 12:58 PM
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38. This fund was launched the same day as the warning to stock up -
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newspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 01:08 PM
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43. okay, is Star Kist
a main Republican contributor? I mean last time it was duct tape and someone made a killing. Go lemmings, go---stock up just like the great unevent of 2000. I hear people spent thousands of dollars stocking up on food supplies for the non-event. Well, if you stock up on tuna, try to get the non-mercury kind--better yet, sardines are apt to have less mercury or no mercury, so buy sardines!!!! Come on everyone, buy SARDINES!!!!
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 02:56 PM
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81. Right! Sardines are the way to go! n/t
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Sapere aude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 01:16 PM
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48. Screw that, I don't eat anything with a face on it. And I think this bird
flu thing is another scare tactic.
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llmart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 01:20 PM
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52. Can this government get any more ridiculous?
First color-coded alerts. Then duct tape. Now tuna. Why not cereal? Why not canned soup?

I'm going to go find a deserted island somewhere and get off this friggen' nightmare.
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 01:24 PM
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53. Buy tuna? Put it under your bed?
Ignore these fools. Tuna is not a good substitute for chicken. Like people have posted above, canned salmon is better. You can also get other canned foods which are just as nutritious.

Put under your bed? Some people have food moths in their homes, and they would have a field day in this stored food.

Ignore these clowns. I swear, this government has turned into a circus.

If you are interested in food storage or preparing for an emergency, go to any one of the hundreds of web sites on this topic. They're very good. They teach you how to store food the RIGHT WAY, in plastic containers, store them properly, rotate your food. Something the idiots in Washington are clueless about.
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 01:33 PM
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57. I agree, they are fools, but how do moths bother canned food? n/t
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 07:06 PM
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104. Well, I was actually thinking of the advice in the article
that says to store "powdered milk". We've had food moths before (here in Oregon they're everywhere), and they will get into everything. Even powdered milk.

When we started putting our food storage into plastic tubs, the problem went away.
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Massachusetts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 01:47 PM
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58. Canned Wha.......?
Now if they recommended Canned Heat while your "Goin up The Country" or "Rollin and Tumblin" your way through the Avian Blues, I'd agree.

But alas The Bushco Ship Of Fools speaks in confused tongues again.
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 02:58 PM
Response to Reply #58
82. Lol! That's good!
:D
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 01:55 PM
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62. What happens to the people who don't have food stored?
Sounds like we have a solution for the obesity problem at least.

Here's a question - my insurance company only lets me buy 30 day's worth of medications at a time. How do I stock up on the medications I need daily?
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 01:58 PM
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63. Don't worry: FEMA!
:rofl:
:rofl:
:rofl:
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 02:27 PM
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67. GAAAAAA!
Excuse me while I panic.
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Daphne08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 02:01 PM
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65. How much do the people at HHS get paid to think up this stuff?
I mean, really... :eyes:



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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 02:32 PM
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69. They're not thinking, that's the sad part.
They have no concept of logistics, of public health, of how cities work, of how food moves from warehouses to markets etc. None whatsoever. Our major cities went through the last flu epidemic without missing a beat. This bunch will cause more problems by panicking and reacting with middle of the night quarantines enforced by ill-trained militias than the flu itself, guaranteed.
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WePurrsevere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 02:33 PM
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70. Although under the bed is a bit silly having a stash of supplies to last
a few days to a week is alway good idea anyway. Along with other areas I would think it's considered "normal" up here in the north country to stock up on things you'll need so you'll be okay for a week or so if there's an emergency such as a really bad ice or snow storm. I sure wouldn't trust the Feds to help me very fast in case of an emergency.

As for "tuna" I can think of other things I'd keep. I make a wonderful Salmon Loaf for one thing. :D One of the things DH and I have been wanting to pick up for a while now is a Food dehydrator. We both love various types of jerky and other dried food stuff and it would keep well for quite a while, hey it worked rather well for our ancestors right? B-)
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 02:49 PM
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76. Uh Oh.......
Whatd' they put in the tuna?:tinfoilhat:

:sarcasm:
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 02:51 PM
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77. yum canned mercury!
I have not eaten it in 11 years.
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faithnotgreed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 04:51 PM
Response to Reply #77
95. right on - again - leftchick
you and me both
ive been vegetarian for about 20 years but over the past 10 or so years have been able to be much smarter and more informed about my food choices

that mercury can do a silent number on your health thats for sure
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Niccolo_Macchiavelli Donating Member (641 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 02:52 PM
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79. Tinfoil alert
Fish in general contains a good amount of jod

having it in good-excessive amounts would slow down the process of radioactive iode settling down in the thorax(thyroid)? due to previously saturating the thorax(spelling?).

Having lived in the yellow zone of a nuclear plant they have given out iod pills for a case of escaping radiation.

Well the recommendations ist somehow fishy. why not dried vegetables? or rice or pasta?


perhaps i'm just to :tinfoil:
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Sabriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 02:59 PM
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83. Don't forget to lay in a supply of mayo, celery, onions, and toast
Can't make tuna salad without them. Oh, and maybe some black olives for a bit of color.

Idiots.
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 03:50 PM
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85. Wrap it in plastic sheeting and duct tape, and microwave for 2 minutes
:eyes:
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fshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 03:57 PM
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86. Lol.
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mikeytherat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 04:10 PM
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89. Add to this list - other things you can store and where to store them!
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corporatemedia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 05:00 PM
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98. NEW Tuna brand from Halliburton: "Chickenhawk of the Sea" eom
Edited on Thu Mar-16-06 05:01 PM by corporatemedia
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 05:35 PM
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101. A contrary position....
... it is a very good idea to have some (capable of long storage) food around. Not just for bird flu, but for any number of reasons.

Everyone should have at least a week's supply of edibles in case of some kind of emergency. You should store only foods that will withstand storage for a reasonable length of time (say a year or two) and you should only store foods you routinely eat so that you can keep the stock rotating.

Not every thing coming out of the mouth of a goverment man is a bad idea :)
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 07:09 PM
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105. Hey, Smirko the Clown! I got your canned tuna right here!
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 07:20 PM
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106. Leavitt owned trout hatchery - got fined for illegal transfer of tainted
fish and fired 75 regulatory agency employees in 1992 when he became gov of Utah. No wonder Bush put him in the EPA.

http://www.missoulanews.com/News/News.asp?no=3474


When the Missoulian declared Utah Gov. Mike Leavitt “A fine fit for EPA” in a recent editorial, the paper endorsed a Republican known to exact revenge on environmental professionals with whom he has a personal beef. President Bush has nominated Leavitt to replace the fleeing Christine Todd Whitman as head of the Environmental Protection Agency. And from this lofty post, there’s no telling how many personal scores Leavitt may choose to settle. After becoming governor in 1992, Leavitt fired 75 employees of the Utah Division of Wildlife Resources. The bloodletting was perceived as payback for a $25,000 fine the DWR had levied upon the Leavitt family trout hatchery. Seems the Leavitts had been caught illegally transferring whirling disease-infected fish. Once in office, Leavitt not only pushed 75 dedicated fisheries professionals into a mass grave, he also removed hatchery oversight from DWR. In place of true scientific regulation, Leavitt created the Aquaculture Advisory Committee and stocked it with hatchery owners who were asked to regulate themselves. They happily agreed, and if Leavitt applies this same tactic as head of the EPA, expect an equally joyous response from coal, coalbed methane, oil, gas and any number of polluting foxes itching for a key to the henhouse.

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Hotler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 07:20 PM
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107. "Extra Canned Tuna " does that mean it's double canned????
Is it tuna in a can within a can?
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-16-06 07:21 PM
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108. Wonder which members of the current Regime bought the Tuna stock.
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