Bush: Violence Creating Urgency in Iraq (radio address)

[maddezmom]

WASHINGTON - President Bush on Saturday braced Americans for more bloodshed in Iraq but said recent civil strife has motivated warring political factions to move quickly to set up a representative government.

"Our ambassador to Iraq, Zal Khalilzad, reports that the violence has created a new sense of urgency among these leaders to form a national unity government as quickly as possible," Bush said in his weekly radio address.

"I urge them to continue their work to put aside their differences, to reach out across political, religious and sectarian lines, and to form a government that can confront the terrorist threat and earn the trust and confidence of all Iraqis."

Bush's broadcast came in advance of a speech he plans to deliver in Cleveland on Monday, the second in a series of talks marking Sunday's three-year anniversary of the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq. In the speech, Bush will discuss how the United States is working with various sectors of Iraqi society to defeat terrorists, restore calm and help rebuild homes and communities.

more:http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060318/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush

Wow what a headline, guess the body counts are too much for them to handle. :eyes:

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

1. So all that votin' was for nought?

:wow:

[babylonsister]

2. How 'bout "Dimson creating violence"? And isn't

it time for him to take a vacation? Pleeze?

[global1]

3. * Heard It Wrong In His Ear Piece - It Was Our Occupation Of Iraq Has.....

created a new insurgency.

[salin]

4. Lets track back... first it was the violence was no concern... so Bring

it On...

then it was that the spike in violence was proof that the end of the violence was near and the insurgency was in its "last throes"...

and now the violence is touted as beneficial as it is pushing the urgency of a political resolution...

Good luck with that, jr.

[corporatemedia]

5. VIOLINS create insurgency!!! Did I hear that right? n/t

[wordpix2]

6. he can squawk all he wants but America can see what's happening

[0007]

7. Yawn, Oh Hum, we've turned to the corner to the last throes of violence

and find that nothing has changed from thirty six months ago. I'm not even sure if these guys change their underwear on a regular basis, 'eh?

[MrPrax]

8. Why do I think...

that the Iraqi Parliament 'meet up' would have happened sooner and with a lot less 'civil war' if the Chimp had gotten the election results they paid for...

Scat, monsters...

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

9. Bush urges Iraqis to form govt quickly

By Ross Colvin 9 minutes ago

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - U.S. President George W. Bush urged Iraqi leaders on Saturday to form a government of national unity as quickly as possible as U.S. and Iraqi troops pressed ahead with a sweep for insurgents north of Baghdad.

Speaking on the eve of the third anniversary of the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq, Bush also urged Americans growing increasingly impatient with the war to resist a temptation to retreat, even as he acknowledged setbacks and the prospect of more bloodshed.

"I urge them to continue their work to put aside their differences, to reach out across political, religious and sectarian lines," he said of Iraqi politicians, still deadlocked over who will lead a new government three months after polls.

Washington sees a government of national unity embracing Sunnis, Kurds and Shi'ites as the best hope of stabilizing Iraq and allowing it to begin pulling out its 133,000 troops.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060318/ts_nm/iraq_dc

[acmavm]

10. I'll bet the whiny little weasel did. The way his poll numbers are

dropping and the fact that Swarmer turned out to be such a scam, he's probably foaming at the mouth and bouncing off the walls.

Too late george. Nothing, nothing, nothing can save your 'legacy'. You will wear the title of most incompetent, evil, criminal bastard ever to sully our White House.

[Rose Siding]

11. How dare he?: "More fighting and sacrifice will be required"

"More fighting and sacrifice will be required," Bush said in his weekly radio address. "For some, the temptation to retreat and abandon our commitments is strong. Yet there is no peace, there's no honor and there's no security in retreat. So America will not abandon Iraq to the terrorists who want to attack us again."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/18/AR2006031800786.html

WHAT has he sacrificed? Who has HE fought? What RIGHT has Mr. Bring It On got to speak of retreat or honor?

UGH. Unbelievable. Again. Always. *sadly shaking head*

[SammyWinstonJack]

12. He never fails to make me

:puke: Arrogant POS! :puke: Wait, didn't the POS! give up desserts :eyes: as a sacrifice with re: to his war on Iraq? Bet the pudgy slug didn't stick with that very long.

[Rose Siding]

15. OMG you're right. I'd forgotten that

That was during the first weeks of the war, as I recall. What a piece of work.

To hear him even speak of honor disgusts me :(

[tabasco]

71. Prince Georgie gave up chocolate for whole week!

C'mon, what do you expect from Commander Cuckoo??

[Rex]

13. Just the opposite of what he said.

I wonder if Bush paranoia has reached the delirious Nixon stage yet?

[daleo]

14. Iran violence has caused an urgency in Bush

It is known as bovine fecal urgency - the urgent need to spread bullshit.

[truthisfreedom]

16. "...form a government that can earn the trust and confidence of all?" but

georgie, you couldn't even do that here! your ratings are at 33% nobody trusts you because you act in an untrustworthy manner, and nobody has any friggin' confidence in you either. give up, little man. you're a loser.

[rodeodance]

17. Bush: 'Fighting and Sacrifice' Needed

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/18/AR2006031800786_pf.html

Bush: 'Fighting and Sacrifice' Needed


By Guy Gugliotta
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, March 18, 2006; 3:36 PM



On the eve of the third anniversary of the Iraq invasion, President Bush today promised to "finish the mission" with total victory, urging the American public to remain steadfast but offering no indication when victory might be achieved.

"More fighting and sacrifice will be required," Bush said in his weekly radio address. "For some, the temptation to retreat and abandon our commitments is strong. Yet there is no peace, there's no honor and there's no security in retreat. So America will not abandon Iraq to the terrorists who want to attack us again."

Bush's address comes at a time when confidence in the administration's Iraq strategy appears to have reached all-time lows. A Washington Post-ABC News poll this month found that 65 percent of Americans surveyed thought Bush had no plan for victory, while 35 percent -- the lowest level ever recorded by the poll -- said he did.

Bush used the radio address to draw attention to a series of speeches he is giving this month to rally support for the Iraq war. Last week the first of these focused on efforts to train Iraqi troops and success at mitigating the threat of terrorist bombings and casualties caused by the explosion of roadside "improvised explosive devices."...

[rodeodance]

18. Bush today promised to "finish the mission" with total victory,

On the eve of the third anniversary of the Iraq invasion, President Bush today promised to "finish the mission" with total victory, urging the American public to remain steadfast but offering no indication when victory might be achieved.

[rodeodance]

61. and he broke it , it is broke. all broken

[rodeodance]

62. k

[Warpy]

19. Time for YOUR CLASS to sacrifice, frat boy

MY class is fresh out of blood, sweat, money, and hope.

You've robbed them all for far too long.

[SammyWinstonJack]

22. Isn't his base, the haves and have mores, the Elite, going to be

pissed when they have to start ponying up for their idiot leader's endless wars? :evilgrin:

[Nomen Tuum]

So when are Jenna and Babs enlisting, Mr President?

Your Ass-Holeyness, if they aren't, then, do us a favor and shut up,

[rodeodance]

20. and there is a WH 'fact sheet' to go along.

A White House "Fact Sheet" on Iraq that accompanied the radio address noted that casualties from the explosive devices had been halved in the past 18 months and that nearly half of the devices are being found and disabled before they can be detonated.

The fact sheet also buttressed the president's assertion last week that Iraqi security forces were assuming greater battlefield responsibility. The fact sheet said that "Iraqi forces now conduct more independent operations throughout the country that do Coalition forces."

Democrats noted last week, however, that a recent Pentagon report said the number of "level one" Iraqi units capable of operating independent of the United States had dropped from one to zero in recent months.

And for the most part, the fact sheet ignored the missteps and false starts that have dogged the Iraq war since the invasion in March 2003 and instead contrasted Iraq under Saddam Hussein with Iraq today.

Three years ago, the fact sheet said, "life in Iraq was marked by brutality, fear and terror," and Iraqis "had no voice in their country or their lives." Today, by contrast, "the reign of terror has been replaced by a democratically elected government."

[LynnTheDem]

"contrasted Iraq under Saddam Hussein with Iraq today" Yeah, BETTER

under Hussein.

Funny how bush & his cabal never mention that FACT. The IRAQIS mention it. The rest of the world mentions it. But not bush, his cabal, or the US "media". Strange...

[w8liftinglady]

deaths-breakdown

3/03-3/04 553
3/04-3/05-946
3/05-3/06-819(so far)
oh,yeah-we are making big progress.

[rzemanfl]

21. This from a guy who fights to swallow a pretzel and whose idea

of sacrifice is giving up Jim Beam so he can be installed as "President" by the Supreme Court, without ever having accomplished a fucking thing in his life.

[LuckyTheDog]

23. Bush is getting crazier

This shows just how out of touch with reality he has become.

:crazy: :silly:

[llmart]

24. Let's start the sacrificing with you and your family......

you friggen' cowardly piece of shit! Yeah, why don't you give up some of your millions and Poppy and Babs give up some of theirs? Why don't your useless daughters enlist?

Then and only then you can ask for others to sacrifice.

Just shut the fuck up already. I'm tired of listening to your propaganda and so is most of the rest of America. You've fucked our wonderful country up and I'm mad as hell!

[rodeodance]

yes, the 'leader' should be up front--

[tularetom]

25. "No peace, no honor, no security in retreat"

I dunno. Worked out pretty well for him back in the Vietnam days.

[InkAddict]

68. The retort here...

http://nobravery.cf.huffingtonpost.com/

[madaboutharry]

26. This is just crazy.

Nothing he says is grounded in reality.

[democrank]

27. Wait a minute. Let me get a pencil and paper

so I can write this down. What in the name of hell does this bird know about honor or sacrifice? Wasn`t he AWOL while a gazillion blue collar kids were getting slaughtered in Vietnam? Wasn`t he strumming a guitar while the Gulf Coast was putting out an SOS? Wasn`t he badgering Congress for tax cuts for millionaires while soldiers in Iraq were waiting for bulletproof vests?

Give it up, George. Go golfing or something and leave us alone.

[wellst0nev0ter]

28. Oh, So There'll Be A Draft And A Tax Hike?

Or do you still wanna make sure your drinking buddies never have to feel Uncle Sam on their backs in any way? Fuggin chimp.

[AndyTiedye]

64. If There is a Draft, It Will Never Be For People Like the Bushes

If the draft comes back, it certainly won't be for the
kids of the rich and powerful. Never was. Never will be.

All that stuff is for little people, don't ya know.

We must never succumb to the temptation to support any
form of draft based on the fantasy that it will be "fair".
There ain't no such thing as a fair draft.

At least today, even poor folks can say NO to the Army.
It may not be easy, they may have to work 2 jobs at
minimum wage, but the Army will not impress them by
force, yet.

We are facing a very dangerous time now, since they
have every intention of invading Iran. For that,
they will have to have a draft. Actually, more like
a hurricane, that will grab up practically everybody
who doesn't "know the right people". How many troops
would they need? It has to be in the millions.

It we had a draft today, the US and Israel would have
attacked Iran already.

[Retrograde]

After you, George (n/t)

[marylanddem]

30. To Bush: F.U. you useless evil snake. n/t

[TomClash]

31. Who's winning? Oceania or Eastasia?

[DELUSIONAL]

32. What is "total victory"

Every Iraqi dead??

The GOP owns the Senate, House, white house, & Supreme Court -- and they still aren't satisfied. Do they want everyone to bow down to the mighty white male??

Bushie should define victory --

But then bushie lives in an alternative reality -- War is Peace.

Total Victory is a complete disintegration of both Iraq and the world????

[rodeodance]

40. he can not say what victory is--much less total victory!

[CJCRANE]

"Total Victory":

same phrase Hitler ranted in his bunker in the ruins of Berlin.

[tatertop]

Total victory is when we all learn to love Big Brother

[Vidar]

33. Absolutely right. March on the White House now. No prisoners.

[flordehinojos]

34. damn if he ain't copying fidel castro's words in the early 60's right

after his revolution triumphed and there was no food to feed the people... SACRFICE FOR THE MOTHERLAND was his motto...and damn if bush ain't copying him...and every damn bastard dictator who lives, has lived, and will live on this earth. in fact the damn bastard bush is one.

today my blood boiled when some proselitizing christians came up to my parked vehicle where i was waiting for my husband and wanted to give me some material to read.

they said, "would you be interested in ....?" I said, "NO. SAVE IT. I HATE BUSH. I HATE HIS RIGHT WING CHRISTIAN COALTION. I HATE RELIGION." -- the woman said, "RELIGION HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH POLITICS." i SAID, "IN BUSH'S WORLD IT HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH POLITICS. RELIGION IS NO LONGER RELIGION IT IS NOW POLITICS." SHE SAID, "I BELONG TO A RELIGION WHICH HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH POLITICS"---I SAID, "GOOD FOR YOU. NOW GET ON AND LEAVE ME ALONE"...

If it would have been possible for a human to burst right then and there, i would have.

[BadgerKid]

39. Interesting point: separating religion from politcs

It was said about the Muslims in this country: they should speak out against the radicals of their religion.

What are the religious doing to separate themselves from the appearance of implicit support of the Repukes? Or are they all on the Repukian donor lists afterall?

Congrats to you. You sent the religious a wake-up call.

[flordehinojos]

hi !

it feels good to feel understood. thanks!:)

[fshrink]

35. This is a very bad movie.

Bad script, bad actors, way too long. Yet the producers make a killing.

[rodeodance]

63. hey, nice metaphor

[liberal N proud]

36. If he wants more fighting and sacrifice why doesn't he send Jena and Babs?

He can send them with his nephew Peirce bu$h.

He expects the rest of us to sacrifice while he and his family live high on the hog.

:nuke:

[Rex]

37. Mission accomplished!

Hey dumbass, flight suit boy...you forget those two words? All major combat over yadda yadda. You fucked up on your watch (the one you wanted so badly you begged mommy for the job). Privileged moran.

[truthisfreedom]

38. "the terrorists who want to attack us again." AGAIN? so we went there to

fight the terrorists who attacked us in the first place?

come on, bush-boy... it's time for you and cheney to stop playing pretend. 3.5 years of this total bullcrap is enough, don't you think?

[madeline_con]

41. We ARE fighting....

against this asshole!

[acmavm]

This guy just gets scarier and scarier by the minute. Everytime he opens

his mouth he just provides more proof that he's nuts.

[young_at_heart]

We NEED his definition of "the mission"

His vagueness and his credibility just aren't cutting it any more. For once, could we hear his OWN words about Iraq? I'd be interested to know what he thinks, not what Karl thinks.

[rodeodance]

."The security of our country is directly linked to the liberty of the

Iraqi people"---I do not get it.

."The security of our country is directly linked to the liberty of the Iraqi people," Bush said. "We will settle for nothing less than complete victory."

[NYC]

65. I have no idea what that means.

My guess is that it is meaningless, but "sounded" good.

[InkAddict]

69. Well, it sounds like an admission of some sort of deal with....

or an admission that America is going to continue to keep paying the blackmail to...

[pinto]

The guy's gone round the bend, imo. And I don't say that

lightly.

[rodeodance]

i agree.

[gizmo1979]

When is it his and his rich buddies.

We have all sacrificed our civil rights, our sons and daughters,our hard earned money.What has your buddies and you sacrificed Mister Bush.Time to spread the pain.

[Ecumenist]

Good, you sorry son of a bitch...

Carry your ass to wherever it is you believe more "fighting and sacrifice" is needed, grab a bat, knife, peashooter, rock, rabid weasel, wolverine or pit bull; whatever happens to be at hand, (on par with the weapons you've so graciously provided the poor souls forced to fight, bleed and die for your pocketbook) and using your jury rigged, (no pun intended, unless you happen to have open eyes and see things the way this bunch goes about "business"), half assed pieces of sh&t that passes for armour, (really nothing more than glorified flower pots and sheet metal) and see how much you can accomplish, you half-assed, yellow bellied, sap-sucking, crackhead, cowardly, snivelling son of a bitch. Oh and by the way, make sure to save a place next to you for Scotty, Condie, Dickie and the rest of the "cabinet", the chicken hawk brigade that agrees to and salivates on your every lying word, the dime store "christians" who wouldn't be recognised by Christ if they had the word tattooed on their sanctimonious foreheads; the oil barons who love to see people die for their bottom lines but wouldn't fight to save their children's lives and your two spawn.
While you're at it, don't forget your parents, Pappy Bush and that nightmare of a mother, the Bronx cabbie. Good luck..

[cornermouse]

So when is he signing up?

[WinkyDink]

Mission Accomplished!

[antonialee839]

Send your snotty little nephew Pierce, it's about time

you and yours did some sacrificing because quite frankly, we're fucking tired of it.

[DrBloodmoney]

Sacrificing the 1st and 4th amendments right now n/t

[area51]

"... sacrifice will be required,"

So when are the drunken Bush twins signing up?

<crickets chirping>

[RedSock]

66. Commander-in-Chief

You have only two choices, you drunken idiot monkey:

1. Grab a gun and lead your men into battle like a true commander-in-chief.

2. STFU!

[freethought]

67. Apparantly that scarifice included the Bill of Rights as well. N/T

[lumberjack_jeff]

70. No - you mean "sacrifices", each of whom has a name, asshole.

[savemefromdumbya]

29. Bush: 'Fighting and Sacrifice' Needed (WashPost 3/18/06)

Well the little boy hasn't finished playing with his toy soldiers?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/18/AR2006031800786.html

More fighting and sacrifice will be required," Bush said in his weekly radio address. "For some, the temptation to retreat and abandon our commitments is strong.

....did we not learn the lesson of Vietnam?.....

[Flabbergasted]

42. George YOU made this commitment don't put it on us asshole!

[bahrbearian]

46. " I get to make the decision's to go to war , not congress."

[bahrbearian]

43. What lesson from Viet nam are suppose to learn ?

Abandoning a war ? or Abandoning an Military Post in the Time of War ?

[savemefromdumbya]

45. called a quagmire

unecessary loss of lives

[msgadget]

44. What does 'total victory' look like?

I mean, we saw the Mission Accomplished sign and things have only gotten worse so the bar must be set pretty damned low.

[savemefromdumbya]

47. Often wondered

[Kerrytravelers]

48. Fighting and Sacrafice should start with all Bush family members under 30.

Sign 'em up!

[savemefromdumbya]

51. We have parachutes ready for them

and one for Laura too

[marew]

54. AMEN!!!!!! n/t

[Kerrytravelers]

55. *taking a bow*

[saigon68]

111. kick

[acmejack]

58. My thought, let some gold star folks explain sacrifice to him

You have an excellent point, there are a bunch of prime service age Bush progeny.

[peacetalksforall]

49. Someone should put him and his team in a room, load it up with

specific films, and lock the door. Play them over and over. The films: The Lyndon Johnson film, the Robert McNamara film, and every film about Vietnam that has been made. Then someone should read to them - from the hundreds of books about our defeat.

What kind of people don't learn from something still so fresh?

[Mz Pip]

50. What does sacrifice look like????

AS a nation we have not been asked to give up one fucking thing (except for our civil liberites which is the last place to start)

No sacrifice to pay for this. Tax cuts and increased deficits seem to be the way to go. Where are our ration books?

Nope, just sit back in you comfy chair and raise a glass of Merlot to our troops. That's all we have to do. All Bush asks of us is that we be armchair patriots. No sacrifice. Just unquestioned support.

Bullshit.
Mz Pip
:dem:

[savemefromdumbya]

52. feel a draft?

armchair patriot LOL!

[Aviation Pro]

53. This is the reason why this little boy has no idea what he's doing...

"These past three years have tested our resolve," Bush said. "The enemy has proved brutal and relentless . . . and our troops have shown magnificent courage and made tremendous sacrifices" which, along with Iraqi sacrifices, had given Iraq a "historic opportunity" to rebuild itself.

War is a brutal undertaking, Chimp. Patton understood this, Black Jack Pershing understood this, Sherman understood this and these men won their fucking wars!!!!! You share nothing with these warriors and in the greatest twist of irony the insurgents do.

Oh, by the way, why don't you try and convince Bonnie Prince Pierce to enlist instead of hitting the bong night after night, you fucking coward.

[tabasco]

72. Idiot Boy doesn't have a clue what war and sacrifice mean.

Remember him joking about WMDs, looknig for them in his office? Bush knew the war was unnecessary when he started it - he just had to play dress up and be a "War President." Sad days for America when %33 still approve of this dumbasses job performance.

[spindrifter]

56. Ah, yes, like

what you sacrificed when you served in the Air National Guard? How about making sure all your service-age relatives head on over to enlist. Pierce could head up the line. I'd want to see 'em enlisting in the Regular Army -- not the reserves. How about the Marines?

[madmark]

57. NOT our committments; we made no committments you piece of

shit.

[Mountainman]

59. "For some, the temptation to retreat ........." <---- Straw man !

I just read the post about bush's straw man arguments and here is another one.

[Skittles]

60. the "some" being every rational, caring person in America

what a scumbag he is

[xxqqqzme]

73. it belongs to you Incinertor of Iraq...

executioner of children, butcher of civilians; torturer in charge. YOU wanted 2 B a WAR president. It all belongs 2 you; you own it ALL;

[DeepModem Mom]

74. WP: As Iraq War Heads Into 4th Year, Bush Pledges 'Complete Victory'

As Iraq War Heads Into 4th Year, Bush Pledges 'Complete Victory'
By Guy Gugliotta
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, March 19, 2006; Page A16

On the eve of the third anniversary of the Iraq invasion, President Bush yesterday promised to "finish the mission" with "complete victory," urging the American public to remain steadfast but offering no indication when victory may be achieved.

"More fighting and sacrifice will be required," Bush said in his weekly radio address. "For some, the temptation to retreat and abandon our commitments is strong. Yet there is no peace, there's no honor and there's no security in retreat. So America will not abandon Iraq to the terrorists who want to attack us again."

Bush's address comes at a time when confidence in the administration's Iraq strategy appears to have reached a new low. A Washington Post-ABC News poll this month found that 65 percent of Americans think Bush has no plan for victory, while 35 percent -- the lowest level ever recorded by the poll -- think he does.

Bush used the radio address to draw attention to speeches he is giving to rally support for the war. Last week, he focused on efforts to train Iraqi troops and success at mitigating the threat of terrorist bombings and casualties caused by roadside "improvised explosive devices."...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content//article/2006/03/18/AR2006031801256.html

[babylonsister]

75. What a stubborn asshole. When will he listen to the majority of

the country? We. Want. Out! :banghead:

[toopers]

80. Sorry, I disagree with your reasoning . . .

I don't want a leader who does what's popular. I want a leader he does what's right.

[babylonsister]

81. I don't happen to think he's done what's right by

invading Iraq in the first place without any provocation.

[toopers]

84. It may not have been the right thing to do,

but I do not want any president to lead based on polls.

[babylonsister]

87. OK, so explain the lack of common sense.

Are you happy with the deficit, the blood being spilled, the constant war cry with no end in sight? Are you willing to put up with spying on Americans? Was the response to Katrina okay with you?
I am not willing to accept whatever he says because he's saying it. In fact, I suspect everything he has to say and have for the past 5 years.
Study PNAC. This war was planned way before 9/11, and I'm not willing to give this asshat a pass just because he's president, plus I have grave concerns about the last two elections to get him there.

[toopers]

90. I do not agree with the way this administration is being run . .

nor do I agree with your statement that he should do something because the people of the US say he should. He should do what is right regardless of how popular.

[babylonsister]

91. WE supposedly hired him; why should he not do our bidding? nt

[toopers]

114. When he takes the oath of office, there is no mention of . . .

doing our bidding. The oath mentions protecting the constitution.

[dogfacedboy]

93. And what is right would be to give it up!

Bush's war is not gaining anything for America. Also, please stop referring to Bush as a 'leader'. He is NOT a leader.

[CJCRANE]

94. But it's come to the point

where virtually everything he does is unpopular with 60% of Americans (and probably 75% of the world).

You know if one person hates you, you can ignore them. If half a dozen people hate you, you can avoid them.

But when the majority of the world's population despises you, then you gotta figure: well maybe you might be doing something wrong...

[countingbluecars]

86. And we the people

say he is wrong.

[toopers]

88. If we the people were still in charge . . .

we might still be require segregation of schools, buses, restaurants, drinking fountains, etc.

[cliss]

92. I disagree with your reasoning...

in a free democracy, people choose a leader who most represents their values. Not a "Father figure" or "dad".

Humankind has been terribly ripped off by its "leaders" over the ages.

Buckminster Fuller said a while back that "the day is coming when people don't need to be governed any longer. They will govern themselves"

[uppityperson]

95. I partially agree, though think many people in USA do want a "king"

In a free democracy, people chose people to represent their values. Many people want a king instead, someone to look up to, to rule over all, to not have to go by any rules except their own. Oh yes, they want a king who will be kind, give them treats, a "father figure" indeed. Hence Reagan. Too bad we do not live in a free democracy but only a semblance of one.

[DeepModem Mom]

96. I agree, toopers. Otherwise, there would be no "Profiles in Courage."

My understanding of democracy is that we put our trust in the hands of those we elect. And, one of the problems with democracy is that our trust is very often put in the hands of the wrong people. Still, I would choose our system, warts and all.

[ConcernedCanuk]

97. "Still, I would choose our system, warts and all" - - - - .there ya go

.
.
.

Your "system" has allowed the US to become the pariah of the world

Unleashing WMD's on the world at their discretion

Japan when it was trying to surrender (lots of proof on that if you google enuf)

And spreading Depleted Uranium all over the Middle East since Pappa Bush started using the banned substance in Gulf War 1

Nothing personal, but your "system" SUCKS!!

It allowed Bush and his Mob to steal 2 elections

Ergo, your country, and it's standing in the world

Which, if you haven't noticed, is going in the toilet

nice "warts"

[DeepModem Mom]

98. Believe me, I noticed the toilet. I guess I'm just like an old Marxist...

who still believes in the value of that system as one perceives it should be. I'm a democrat.

[ConcernedCanuk]

101. This the beauty (sort of) of our parliamentary system

.
.
.

Harper is our Prime Minister for the moment

But he is NOT Commander in Chief

nor can he make any major decisions regarding our Canada without support from one of our other parties, main powers being the Blok Quebequios and the NDP

We don't have to register for a party to vote, we walk in, make up our minds and put our pencil mark on the ballot, and most likely hand it to a person we know and watch them cross our name of the voters list as they put our sealed ballot in the box

No-one knows our party affiliations unless we tell them personally

The USA electoral system was directed for a dictatorship from the get-go in my opinion,

well, maybe not before the PNACers assassinated Kennedy . . .

JFK was one of the most respectable Presidents of the USA, Jimmy Carter a close second in my mind

And shame on Clinton for getting caught for a BJ - he coulda been third in my mind, but seeing as Bill allowed the sanctions in Iraq to continue as thousands of children died as a result, - I'm reserving judgment on Monica's "client"

Cuz Monica DID blow him

right out of office !!!!!

Another PNACers plan??

Nahhh

They wouldn't do that

[DeepModem Mom]

102. Lived in Britain for a while, and I agree that the parliamentary system...

has a lot to recommend it. We probably would have been able to get rid of GWB by now. And I also agree that the assassination of JFK was a turning point, from which there has been no turning back. And, indeed, we still don't know who killed him, or exactly how Carter and Clinton were sabotaged. But I have my suspicions.

[ConcernedCanuk]

103. "the assassination of JFK was a turning point"

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Sad

but true

USA could have been indeed a respected nation under the Kennedys I think

but the PNACers had a different goal

and look where the USA is now

Powerful as all get-out, yes

But liked and respected??

You can answer that question yourself . . .

[toopers]

115. One thing to remember about our system of government . . .

is that we are not a democracy, and were not suppose to be one. We are suppose to be a representative republic that has been established to protect our individual rights.

[Webster Green]

76. "Complete victory"?....More like complete idiocy!

He's already achieved that, time to go home.

[OKNancy]

77. I really think he is delusional

I think that he thinks that if he says it, it must be true. He just seems to be totally disconnected from reality.

[Jackpine Radical]

82. This approach has always worked for him in the past.

Shrub has never had to face the consequences for his actions.

He did poorly in school, college & grad school & graduated anyway.

He did coke with no bad consequences. He drove businesses into the ground & lost other people's $$ with no adverse consequences. He did insider trading, he lied about his DUIs, he went AWOL & then lied about his service, he stole two elections, he bungled the deal with the fighter captured by the Chinese, he lied about WMD, he kept shifting stories on the rationale for the war, etc. etc.

Time after time after time, he never had to face the consequences. That is a very dangerous set of personal lessons for a supposed leader. That's why the world is not safe with him around in power.

[Frank Cannon]

78. "More fighting and sacrifice will be required"

As long as none of it's by him or any of his chickenshit, chickenhawk friends and their families.

[countingbluecars]

79. The "White House fact sheet on Iraq"?

This White House has redefined the word "fact"!

"The fact sheet also buttressed the president's assertion last week that Iraqi security forces are assuming greater battlefield responsibility.

Democrats noted last week, however, that a recent Pentagon report said the number of "Level 1" Iraqi units capable of operating independently of the United States had dropped from one to zero."

[reprobate]

99. Add the fact that our military - out of the side of their mouth - admits

...that many of the Iraqi 'security forces' have been infiltrated by the insurgents. IOW, we are training and arming the enemy!

Anyone wonder why I call him "Mad George"?

[iconoclastic cat]

83. But I thought Iraq was not involved in 9/11, asshole...

When will he give it a rest?

[Neverarepublican]

85. Mr. Bush, you are so full of shit.

[neverforget]

89. Say it with me "Victory is right around the corner and Iraq is not in

Civil War." Because by saying so, makes it true. :sarcasm:

[PBass]

100. No consensus on what VICTORY is, to begin with.

What the military considers victory is at odds with what the White House suits-and-ties consider victory.

It's like Bush is still in campaign mode, and all he can do is offer up some catchy slogans.

[IrishBloodEngHeart]

104. As Iraq War Heads Into 4th Year, Bush Pledges 'Complete Victory'

As Iraq War Heads Into 4th Year, Bush Pledges 'Complete Victory'
By Guy Gugliotta
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, March 19, 2006; Page A16

On the eve of the third anniversary of the Iraq invasion, President Bush yesterday promised to "finish the mission" with "complete victory," urging the American public to remain steadfast but offering no indication when victory may be achieved.



http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/18/AR2006031801256.html


Now we know Marion Berry wasn't the only guy in Washington hitting the crack pipe.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

105. Yeah.... complete victory like the war on drugs, the war on cancer

and the war on stupidity.... we have lost all three.

Complete victory, to end hatred with cluster bombs and depleted uranium, yes, the birth defects that the people in Iraq are witnessing along with the ones our troops are having to deal with, not to mention their own cancers, will result in complete victory, victory over intelligence and diplomacy.

[Mythsaje]

106. "offering no indication when victory may be achieved..."

Or even what the hell would actually CONSTITUTE victory.

Same as it ever was...

[grytpype]

108. "Or even what the hell would actually CONSTITUTE victory."

Needs to be said again!

Sometimes Bush says "victory" means the destruction of all tyrants and evil-doers.

Then he says we aren't sticking around until that happens, we are just gonna stand up a new Iraqi army and leave.

Well then what the hell does he mean when he says we have to stay over there until we achieve victory? Isn't there a huge-ass contradiction there?

[BeyondGeography]

107. All that oil, all those military bases...

It's enough to keep a megalomaniacal, middle-aged child monster drooling at night.

[Warren Stupidity]

109. So he is going to finish the accomplished mission?

Have I got that right?

And that will be when we have a 'complete victory'. What the heck? Can the MSM really report this with a straight face?

"Have you no sense of decency, sir? At long last, have you left no sense of decency?"
-- a long time ago, back when things were perhaps as dark as they are today.

[IsItJustMe]

110. chimp gonna send his daughters over and getter dun!

[jimshoes]

112. In honor of the monkey's visit to Cleveland

I am posting a picture of a flower named appropriately enough (and I had no Idea this thing even existed) Cleveland's bush monkeyflower. And a new nickname... Figwort.

[DrZeeLit]

113. Obviously, he's bracing us for Jenna and Whoits enlistment...right?

I mean... they'll do anything to bounce the numbers.
Ya gotta believe those girls will be seen soon.
Cuz... I haven't seen 'em since the Inauguration, have you?

So, they're coming out of whatever bar they've been patronizing, and signing up for the war, right?
Honor.
Sacrifice.

Yep.

[ConcernedCanuk]

116. I read some more of the posts here - It amazes me that the USA public

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is so apathetic about the carnage the the USA is effecting in the Middle East

and interfering with governments all over the planet as well

What the feck do the USA citizens think they have here?

A pass card to interfere with every country in the World???

It sure looks like it

And that'll be the downfall of the USA

Powerful maybe

But hated