US troops kill 9 after attacked - Iraqi police

[maddezmom]

DULUIYA, Iraq (Reuters) - U.S. troops killed nine people, including a family, after their patrol was ambushed in an Iraqi town early on Sunday, Iraqi police said.

Police said three of the victims were a 13-year-old boy and his parents who were shot dead when U.S. soldiers entered their house in the Sunni town of Duluiya, about 90 km (60 miles) north of Baghdad.

"A patrol of U.S. forces was attacked by gunmen using rocket propelled grenades," Duluiya police said.

They said three of the victims were young men, but it was not immediately clear whether they were militants or civilians. Six people were also wounded in the fighting and seven detained for questioning.

The U.S. military said it was checking the report.

more:http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060319/ts_nm/iraq_attack_dc;_

edited to reflect changes but Rueters

[Erika]

1. So we're now openly again shooting innocents

It seems that the right wing sites who say the more Muslims dead, the better, is ruling our military.

It's also known as genocide.

[Brothaman2k]

2. The problem is...

Much like Vietnam, it can some times be hard to tell who the enemy is. The insurgents are mixed in and circulating among the general public. It's not like they wear uniforms or badges. I'm a soldier in the field, I come under fire from the right, well I'm blasting ANYTHING that's to my right.

War is an ugly thing and ugly things happen, but if I'm a soldier, I'm not worried about implications, I'm worried about staying alive... Period. We all know some people do these ugly things on purpose, but more often than not, it's just a terrible mistake that the guy(s) who pulled the trigger have to struggle with for the rest of their lives.

I'd have to hear a lot more about this before I take away the benefit of the doubt from our troops who have to deal with being in harms way each and every day.

I'd hate to see today's troops suffer the same homecoming our Vietnam troops had to endure, being greeted as "Baby Killers" and the like, when all they were doing was trying to stay alive in the midst of a fight they were only fighting because they were doing their duty.

[Nostradammit]

3. Oh ok ...

I'd hate to see our troops suffer the same homecoming our Vietnam troops had to endure when they realized that all their sacrifices and the killing they did were for the benefit of a handful of rich fucks.

But I'm going to have to.

[Erika]

5. Yep. n/t

[Pavulon]

14. going to have to what?(nt)

[Nostradammit]

20. See our troops suffer the same homecoming our Vietnam troops had to endure

when they realized that all their sacrifices and the killing they did were for the benefit of a handful of rich fucks.

[saigon68]

16. don't worry about the troops they have it well in hand


www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,91040,00.html


Just click on Join the discussion at the bottom of the page:

kind of makes you proud to be an amerikan


Posted Wed 15 March 2006 08:04
Maybe we should just put the rag heads in "tiger cages" and let the rats eat them.

Posts: 8 | Registered: Fri 10 March 2006


What is this Country coming to? Prosecuting our troops for demoralizing the enemy? We should
be harrasing the likes of our news media, Cindy Sheehan, and their ilk.

As for these captured terrorists, there would be no problem if they had not been taken prisoner.

Lets stop the moralizing and remember the war is about breaking things and killing things.

Eliminate terroists and terrorism is eliminated.

Semper Fi

Posts: 8 | Registered: Sat 08 March 2003




be a cold day in hell before I would testify against one of my fellow soliders to appease the higher
ups, testimony like that given by Sgt. John H. Ketzer is whats going to convict these men,
he needs the dogs turned on him.
if a dog bit off a ball and it saved an american fighting man then it was worth it.



Posted Wed 15 March 2006 07:51
I believe that in time of War the Press (civilian)Should not be allowed.This situation is indeed a
problem and should/will not be tolerated by any military Branch. Let Military handle it and they
will. I can hear the cries now for "Free Press"-- War is Hell at times. but it is War, Shut down the
games and lets get on with the task at hand..



quote:
Originally posted by Chief3700:
With-out the 'Free Press" we wouldn/t be having this discussion


Posts: 95 | Registered: Tue 20 September 2005



at abu graib hell that one guy should have let his dog eat his balls instead of eating peanut butter
of them if the shoe was on the other foot and it was the american they would have cut his balls off
then his head what gives with that BRING OUR BOY'S HOME THEN NUKE IRAQ

Posts: 4 | Registered: Wed 15 March 2006

[High Plains]

19. Gotta support the troops, right?

[saigon68]

21. I GUESS SO

As a Veteran's service officer I see a lot of PTSD.

The VA takes a dim view of paying $$$$$$$$$$$$ to people who have this condition.

In their minds--- they are like Patton slapping the boy with "combat fatigue"


The so called troops resort to Criminal behavior due to lousy leadership

Wait til these people come back to america and become cops

Yikes.

[Erika]

4. The GI's entered their house and killed them

Those are the facts.

[0007]

12. This is getting out of control! Or I should say it is out of control.

[varkam]

6. Welcome to DU!

:toast:

[maddezmom]

7. they shouldn't be there in the first place

BTW, welcome to DU. :hi:

[Name removed]

8. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[TomClash]

10. Bush

will leave office and be on ten corporate boards, do a speaking tour at 250K a pop, earning $5m a year. We'll be blaming white working class soldiers for following orders or protecting themselves.

Great. :puke:

[Judi Lynn]

11. Sure, just let god sort them out. No reason to act like an adult.

Just shoot everything that moves, or doesn't move, no matter the age, size, species.

If God didn't want us to control all living beings, and consider their lives cheap, God wouldn't have allowed the most vicious criminals among us to amass all the world's major weapons and money.

Don't even consider the fact a rich, slimey bunch of Republican war profiteers lied their way into a bogus war on a helpless country of people who are fighting to protect their families and friends.

[leftchick]

17. Iraqis are the "enemy"

now does that make any sense? Bring em home!

[Warren Stupidity]

18. "The insurgents are mixed in and circulating among the general public."

Uh no - this is the same bullshit handed out 30-40 years ago regarding Vietnam. The insurgents are the general public.

"I'd hate to see today's troops suffer the same homecoming our Vietnam troops had to endure, being greeted as "Baby Killers" and the like,"

Never happened. Rightwing freepoid bullshit used to blow smoke over our defeat in Vietnam.

Did you get lost this morning?

Welcome to DU?

[Terran1212]

22. I don't blame them personally/morally, but they are still acting horribly

It's not their fault they are acting that way, but it's still horrific. It's really the fault of the Harvard-educated guys in office who send poor people to fight.

[Lochloosa]

26. Here was the result of last weeks "Mistake"

[leftchick]

15. again? we never stopped!

:cry:

[cal04]

9. U.S. Troops Clash With Gunmen Near Baghdad

On the eve of the third anniversary of the U.S.-led invasion, American troops clashed with gunmen north and west of Baghdad Sunday, and insurgents lobbed a mortar round into Karbala, the holy city south of Baghdad where a million Shiite pilgrims assembled for a major religious commemoration.


(snip)
Elsewhere, two civilians were killed and 10 wounded when gunmen attacked U.S. troops stationed at the governor's office in Ramadi, 70 miles west of Baghdad. In the capital, police found the bullet-riddled bodies of three men bound hand and foot and dumped in a sewage treatment plant in the southeast neighborhood of Rustamiyah. The victims appeared to be the latest in the wave of revenge killings after the bombing Feb. 22 of a Shiite shrine in Samarra.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060319/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq_060319114018

[maddezmom]

13. US forces arrest Col. Farouq Khalil, an Iraqi Interior Ministry official

During operations in Duluiyah, police said, U.S. troops arrested Col. Farouq Khalil, an Iraqi Interior Ministry official, after raiding his house.

The American military did not immediately respond to a request for comment. Earlier it said scores of suspected insurgents had been detained.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060319/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq;_

[Barrett808]

23. U.S.-Iraqi forces kill seven north of Baghdad (mother and 13-year old son)

Seven people, including a woman and her 13-year-old son, were killed early Sunday when U.S. and Iraqi forces searched houses in Dhuluiyah town, 90 km north of Baghdad, a local police source told Xinhua.

"U.S. and Iraqi forces backed by armored vehicles and helicopters stormed Dhuluiyah town before dawn, searching houses for alleged insurgents," said local police chief Brigadier Muhammed al-Jubouri.

Brig. Jubouri said that seven people were killed in the attack, three of them were family members of Ahmed Hussein, a teacher of physics, who was shot dead by U.S. soldiers with his wife and their 13-year-old son.

The U.S. helicopters also bombed a house and totally destroyed it, Jubouri said.

"More than 30 armored vehicles backed by helicopters stormed the town at about 4:00 a.m. (0100 GMT) and searched houses, beating civilians and damaging furniture," Ahmed Muheimeed, a local resident told Xinhua by telephone. ... "It was impossible to know the exact number of the human casualties or present assistant to injured civilians as the U.S. soldiers prevent movement inside the town," he said.

(more)

http://english.people.com.cn/200603/20/eng20060320_251844.html

[monktonman]

24. This is just the armies way of stopping cicl war.

I guess they figure if they get the Iraqis all pissed off at us all over again then they'll stop fighting each other and get back to the good old days of fighting us.

[UpInArms]

25. Another one: Troops accused of Iraqi killings - 5 kids among 11 killed

http://www.theolympian.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060320/NEWS/60320008

BAGHDAD, Iraq — Iraqi police have accused U.S. troops of executing 11 people, including a 75-year-old woman and a 6-month-old infant, in the aftermath of a raid last Wednesday on a house about 60 miles north of Baghdad.

The villagers were killed after U.S. troops herded them into a single room of the house, according to a police document obtained by Knight Ridder Newspapers. The soldiers also burned three vehicles, killed the villagers’ animals and blew up the house, the document said.

<snip>

He also said he knows the officer heading the investigation. “He’s a dedicated policeman, and a good cop,” he said when reached by phone in Tikrit from Baghdad. “I trust him.”

<snip>

The report identified the dead by name, giving their ages. The two men killed were 22 and 28. Of the women, two were 22 years old, one was 30 and one was 75. Two of the children were 5 years old, two were 3, and the fifth was 6 months old, the document said.

<snip>

A local police commander, Lt. Col. Farooq Hussain, interviewed by a Knight Ridder special correspondent in Ishaqi, said autopsies at the hospital in Tikrit “revealed that all the victims had bullet shots in the head and all bodies were handcuffed.” Efforts to reach hospital spokesmen Sunday were unsuccessful.

...more...

:cry: