W.House pushes more schools to drug-test students

[deadparrot]

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Student athletes, musicians and others who participate in after school activities could increasingly be subject to random drug testing under a program promoted by the Bush administration.

White House officials say drug testing is an effective way to keep students away from harmful substances like marijuana and crystal methamphetamine, and have held seminars across the country to promote the practice to local school officials.

But some parents, educators and school officials call it a heavy-handed, ineffective way to discourage drug use that undermines trust and invades students' privacy.

"Our money should be going toward educating young people, not putting them under these surveillance programs," said Jennifer Kern, a research associate at the Drug Policy Alliance, a non-profit group that has frequently criticized U.S. drug policy.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060319/us_nm/drugs_testing_dc

[NanceGreggs]

1. If only they'd drug-test the members of this Administration ...

... it's hard to believe there aren't mind-altering substances at play here.

NO ONE could be that stupid and totally straight, could they?

[goclark]

78. Glad you put an "S" on Members

they are ALL druggies.

Do they have a Drug Czar yet...LOL

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

2. Not testing...

But a training program on how to live in The Brave New World of The Repukes.

beat the kids down early and they will stay beat down forever.

[cmdrzog]

11. Yes. Warrantless wiretapping, warrantless property searches

and now assault on personal body & mind privacy. We have all your freedoms if you let them. Be careful though, some kids won't piss in the cup.

[DELUSIONAL]

20. A lot more info than just drug use can be determined

by the invasion of the Feds. Could the in-depth results be turned over to insurance companies??

I am so glad NOT to be a student today. If today's kids have their privacy invaded -- what else can be done to the next generation?

[saigon68]

3. Repukes project to raise Drug Free Clones to clean toilets, work at walmar

My kids are too old-- I would tell the school to shove this up their rectum.

Fuck these ass holes

[depakid]

4. wasting money that could be applied to after school programs

that are being cut right and left.

Sicker and sicker and sicker.

[tridim]

5. "harmful substances like marijuana and crystal meth"

Typical. And yet they complain when we compare Bush to Hitler, which is a valid comparison.

For the last fucking time, Marijuana is nothing like meth and IT'S NOT DANGEROUS!

[killbotfactory]

17. Marijuana not dangerous?!

The government would lie about something like that, would they?

[WindRavenX]

22. I know right?

It's horrible. If I get busted for even smoking a joint, I lose all Federal Funding.
Fucking bullshit. I'm fucking paranoid when I smoke, it's ridiculous.

[gollygee]

47. This is the ultimate problem with the "war on drugs"

kids aren't stupid. They know the difference between mj and meth. It's hard to take any of it seriously when the government keeps making it sound like marijuana is as bad as meth.

[ismnotwasm]

76. And they've been doing that shit

Since the 70's, when I was a kid (reefer madness was a bit before my time) I remember the studies that showed kids don't respond to being lied to about drugs BACK THEN. Teenagers are risk takers, experimenters, revolution starters. They deserve facts, not propaganda. They look at things differently than those whose brains have hardened into uncomprimising rocks. The studies that show "poor decision making" in underdeveloped areas of the brains of teenagers, while true IMO(I had 4 of 'em at one time or the other)Also reflect the ability to change what is old and in stasis.
(I asked an anthropology professor one time about that, because it seems to me much social change is youth driven. And he agreed that youth have contributed significantly to change throughout history)

This administration is beyond belief.(Have I said that before? Of course I have) I will fight this one. I don't "do" drugs or even drink anymore for that matter, and I have opinions about what is harmful and what is not, but I won't work anywhere where I have to be drug tested. It's bullshit, and there are so many ways to get around it, it useless.

[blueinindiana]

6. W woudl have failed his test in school....

probably would fail one now.

[WestMichRad]

7. Spend more education dollars on more tests of little value

Another great boost to the American education system. Bravo!

Whadda buncha idiots!

[rodeodance]

8. the WH like to punish others.

[HuffleClaw]

9. 'musicians' ?

bwwaahahahahahahahaaaaaa

more invasive policy from a criminal administration.

[EC]

10. Most of the kids in after school programs are clean anyway

except for booze....I wonder what federal funding is going to be hooked to this? No Title I if there are any positives?

[acmejack]

12. Who in the administration is involved in the testing business?

One of these people probably has an interest in a manufacturer of testing equipment, field test kits, or some similar high profit item. Ala Rummy & Tami-flu, Darth & Halliburton...

[LosinIt]

27. My thoughts exactly, somebody's making money off of this

some big contributor must own a drug testing company. These fuckers are so transparent and predictable. This drug testing nonsense has gotten way out of hand. Did you know that they do random drug testing at Hooters? My daughter was a cook there and lost her job because she had gotten high the week before and they pulled her number for a piss test. The manager didn't want to let her go, but he had no choice. Don't you feel safe now knowing that your chicken wings weren't cooked by a pothead?

[Mnemosyne]

29. And people with the munchies are much better cooks too!

Sorry about your daughters job LosinIt. A friend's kid was tested to wash cars at a car lot!

It's getting truly asinine.:crazy:

We do need to test this administration. No one could make the decisions they do without being on some serious mind-altering substances. Pot not being one of them. I'm thinking they are on meth or crack.

[mitchum]

85. There's the answer!

Of course, this initiative is designed to line the pockets of the PARASITIC drug testing industry. With our money.

[Chemical Bill]

13. This would give the feds...

a reason to cut college aid from more kids, as loans and Pell Grants are not available to kids who fail a drug test.

Bill

[Rex]

14. You first.

Everyone in the three branches of gummit should take piss tests right NOW!

[Daphne08]

15. I really don't understand their thinking. I just don't. n/t

[Demeter]

28. You Are Assuming That They Think

It has been comprehensively shown that they do not, in fact, have the capability or desire to use what little intelligence given them by the gene pool.

[allalone]

16. what the?

harmful substances like Meth? May as well drink drain cleaner. that's how harmful meth is. harmful substance makes it sound so benign.

[shanti]

24. no, wrong

it's about comparing weed to meth, which is bullshit.

[killbotfactory]

18. I demand drug testing for politicians

and CEO's.

[GoddessOfGuinness]

19. Hear, hear!!!

How about Breathalyzers too. We know how alcohol impairs driving abilities. How can we allow people to lead our country under the influence?!

[wordpix2]

39. I demand drug testing for WH execs, employees, interns & Pickles

[TX-RAT]

66. Add every federal ,state, county, city employee.

That will stop it in a heartbeat.

[williesgirl]

21. Would + kids perhaps lose Medicaid, Food Stamps etc with this

program? Nothing would surprise me. My daughter is raised but I'd have never stood for this invasion of privacy when she was in school. Talk about taking something local, not even state, and making it Federal!

So much for small government Repukes!

[shanti]

25. you wouldn't have stood for it

but what if your child was an athlete? would you allow them to test him/her in order to play sports? this is what they are aiming at.

[fooj]

23. I have an idea...let's test Little Lord Pissypants...

:evilgrin:

[Mnemosyne]

33. Great idea fooj! Maybe we should all start mailing

those home test kits to the WH. Think they'd get the hint?

You so bad! :evilgrin:

[ourbluenation]

26. Im a flaming liberal and I support this...

After experiencing four years as the mother of a hs student/athlete about to graduate, I can tell you that I would have been the first one to sign off on this policy...I would have absolutely given his school persmission to randomly check his stuff. He's come out of school just fine - good kid, great grades, but some of his friends have not been so lucky. We've had 4 deaths in 3 years. I toured a private high school a few years ago...the principal is a family friend. They instituted a random drug check policy and their problems with these issues steeply declined. Kids who value not getting kicked out of school, or off a team, by and large did not chance getting caught.

The bottom line is this - if my kid has a dime bag in his locker, I want to know rather than not know. Not becasue I want him to get caught, but because I want to know if he's smoking the reefer. It's as simple as that.

[justabob]

30. Am I reading this right?

... basically you want the government to let you know what your kid is up to? That is sure what it sounds like.

[ourbluenation]

45. don't be ridiculous - my husband is one of them "government"

people - he's a teacher.

[Bridget Burke]

31. You want the government to do your job?

Too much trouble to find out what's going on in your kid's life? Especially since his behavior has given you no reason to suspect he was doing anything wrong!

No, you are NOT a flaming liberal.

[ourbluenation]

46. I'm all over my sons activities - but I can't be there at the school...

where drug dealing is a big problem. You all don't know how deceiving kids can be. Sometimes they are there own worst enemies.

[AtTheEndOfTheDay]

81. Teach right from wrong

then back off. If you have to sneak around and "be all over your sons activities" then that's just pathetic. No wonder kids act sneaky. It's modeled and it's the only way to have personal freedom from sneaky adults.

[Mnemosyne]

32. Maybe if they would stop lying to the kids about the "dangers"

of marijuana, they wouldn't be going on to those harder drugs which do cause such disastrous results! Minors shouldn't be using pot, but they will as they will drink alcohol.

Kids aren't stupid. They try pot and see it's not the horrible danger they've been warned about and think maybe the other drugs aren't as bad either. That's where the problems begin.

Most jocks I ever knew were alcoholic binge drinkers. Drinking and puking were the sport of choice on weekends. They always put down anyone that smoked weed as losers.

I don't want kids becoming more indoctrinated to becoming little bricks in the wall. It's the parents responsibility to monitor their children, not the government's, anymore than it's the government's job to tell me what I can do in the privacy of my own home.

It's time for parents to stand up, quit whining and take responsibility for their kids, rather than demanding the country be run like a giant pre-school based on their inability or unwillingness to control their own children.

Let the parents randomly run drug checks on their children. Or if there is a kid showing obvious signs of problems at school, give guidance and counseling to them before it gets out of hand. Many kids can smoke a joint or have a beer once in awhile with no ill effects (it doesn't mean I approve).

This random testing will only create more problems where none may have existed and label kids for life. The kids with the serious problems are pretty obvious most of the time. Educate the kids to help friends they see suffering rather than covering up the problems.

jmo based on experience. Flame away!

[justabob]

34. I agree and I have a related question

Do you know if there are any reliable statistics about the "gateway drug" idea about pot? I have always wondered how many people actually smoke pot first and move on to harder stuff. I can understand where this theory might have come from, but I know plenty of people who started out with far harder drugs before trying pot. Put simply, how many meth-heads, coke heads, junkies, et al have never done pot? And the reverse, how many pot heads have never done any other drugs? Just curious if you know of any sources that address this question.

[Mnemosyne]

75. I don't know if there have been any studies done that

address that justabob. Interesting thought. I'm curious now about your question and am going to do some checking over the next few days. If I find anything I'll let you know if you'd like.

Nixon had a study done to prove how dangerous pot was and he was furious when it did not come out as he had hoped. Here's a link:

http://www.druglibrary.org/SCHAFFER/hemp/moscone/chap3.htm

I know from personal experience that every single person I know that has smoked pot or done harder drugs started with alcohol and/or cigarettes. Not one started with pot that I am aware of. I know many that smoke pot that have never touched any other drugs and some that never drink, though they tried it at one time when younger, way before they ever tried pot. I'm willing to bet that many here would tell the same story.

Another terrible consequence I have been hearing about and seeing, due to all of this ridiculous drug testing, is people that used to only smoke pot are now drinking instead. Some very fine people I knew have turned into horrible mean drunks from giving up pot for booze to keep their jobs. It has devastated their families and their lives. Oh, they have kept their jobs alright, but at a terrible price. It's apparently much cheaper to have raging alcoholics or junkies working for a company than those terrible potheads. I'm sure the medical costs will be much lower when the bills are tallied in the end.:sarcasm:

What a crock of feces this country is turning into. We seem to be regressing at an astounding rate.

[mitchum]

88. Refined sugar is the "gateway drug", not marijuana

[Lost4words]

36. Great reply Vickiss!!!

It is so simple, why cant others see. I think the same applies to drug testing for non hazardous jobs.

Besides traces of pot stay in your system for weeks while cocaine, meth and other HARD drugs show no trace after a couple of days.

This is not the USA I grew up in!

[ourbluenation]

53. Look - if you have addicition running in your family and you think

your kid is brewing a nice little addiction problem himself, this is a good tool to try and curb that behavior from becoming a full blown addiction. My son tells me that kids are dealing pot, meth, coke, and ecstacy at his school. He smokes weed occasionally but drinks beer almost every weekend. We talk about it this all the time. He's pretty honest with me now cuz he's on the verge of adulthood and our relationship is very open and close. But when he was younger he and his friends were little assholes, frankly, who lied and snuck shit around all the time. His dad and I and all the other parents of his "crew" met on a regular basis to work together from keeping the rampant partying from getting out of control. We danced precariously on that thin line of don't go out and do drugs and alchohol, but call us if you do so nobody gets behind the wheel.

Walk a mile in my shoes for a while - the last several years of Jr high and high school have been hell...

[Mnemosyne]

73. It's not the America I grew up in either 8643. I get so tired

of the please babysit me and my kids mentality that has grown in this country.

I took a friend to rehab awhile back. He had been doing mucho morphine for weeks. His blood test came back negative and he had only stopped the day before! He wouldn't waste a cent on pot because it would take money away from his habit.

I'd trust a pothead or casual user first in any job, any day of the week before I'd trust a junkie.

It makes no sense to drug test for any non-hazardous job, unless the whole point is to prevent anyone from smoking pot. It certainly does nothing to stop those addicted to hardcore drugs.

And let's not even get started on the carnage caused by alcohol in the schools and in the workplace! Our school is constantly arresting kids for being drunk at school. I wonder how many just have a slight alcohol buzz and it isn't noticed at all? Maybe they should start testing for that too?! Not.

Mad world.

:hi:

[High Plains]

82. Test for impairment, not metabolites!

To quote eminent social philosopher Mojo Nixon, "I ain'ta gonna pee pee in no cup, 'lessen' Nancy Reagan's gonna drink it up."

[ourbluenation]

48. so - if your kid is doing lines at school, you don't want to know about

it?

My son has a friend he came up with - straight a's, star athlete. He's now a huge drug addict and is in juvi hall for the 3rd time. None of us knew how bad his problem was cuz he kept up with his work, etc...Turns out he'd been buying and selling pot for years AT SCHOOL. AT SCHOOL!!!! Large group of us parents (all liberals from Mendocino County, the first county to pass medical marijuana resolutions and the first to ban GMO's) - started talking about random drug checks. But a bunch of people with no kids at the school made a big stink about privacy rights.

The solution is easy - have parents sign off on it. If you don't want your kid to be part of the random check, do nothing. But if you do - just sign a release allowing it.

[Mithras61]

50. How about if I talk to my kids and spend time with my kids...

and kinow who my kids are and what they're doing, and if I feel a need to have my kids checked, I can take him in? Why should the school have anything to do with it? Why should the government be involved in any way?

Do I want to know if my kid is using or selling? You bet. I'm pretty certain that (since I have a pretty solid relationship with my kids) I'd be able to tell without having the school test him. If I had any doubts, though, he'd be off to the local lab for testing, and the school would most definitely NOT get the results.

I'm sorry about your friend's son. I know it can happen in even the best of families. It's part of why I make surprise visits to my son's school and clean out his locker at randomm intervals. He squawks every time, but I know what's in it and what he's up to. I don't need the school butting into my private affairs or those of my kids to find out if he's up to anything.

Your "solution" is how they put drug testing through at the Federal level. Originally, it was only for jobs like Air Traffic Controller and other high-risk jobs. Then it gradually became required for every job in the government, then for every company that bids on Federal contracts. Now, to get a job at the local car wash you have to have a urinalysis. What's up with THAT?

[ourbluenation]

54. that's a given. But I can't be at the school. You can either show

up as you do and check the locker yourself randomly, or you can grant permission to the school to do it. I do not think participation should be mandatory - I've always taken the postion that the parent has to sign off on the random drug checks and I would allow it. I know my kid and just the chance of him getting caught would stop him from doing it at school.

[Mnemosyne]

68. Where were his parents? You are telling me that because his GRADES

were good NO ONE noticed anything out of the ordinary in his behavior? Bullshit! Smoking a couple of joints on the weekend is a hell of a lot different than doing lines at school.

Selling drugs and doing lines at school denotes a more serious problem. Selling drugs at school is asking to be caught. Doing lines at school is asking to be caught. It certainly sounds as if the young man in question was screaming out for someone, anyone to pay attention to him. jmo

If his habit was that bad and his parents were taking an interest in him, they would have noticed. No excuses. Were they too busy working, no time for the kid? No excuse. Huge mortgage? No excuse, get a cheaper house if you value your child more than your image. If they had been testing him at home as a precautionary measure they would have known. They would have possibly found his stash for sale before YEARS had passed. But in the end it was their responsibility, NOT the school nor the governments. They assumed he was doing fine based on simply his grades? How shallow is that?

Stop trying to make the government the babysitter. Drug test your own children or have your doctor do it. Take responsibility.

Don't stigmatize decent kids and destroy their lives for smoking a joint on the weekends so you don't have to be responsible for your own kid.

[Mandate My Ass]

35. why would you want them kicked out of school

or off a team? That's a bit harsh for smoking a joint. Kicking them to the curb for getting high is not an appropriate response to recreational drug use. Punitive measures don't solve the problem in most cases, they just make the sanctimonious feel better about themselves.

[ourbluenation]

55. he wouldn't do it if their were random checks...we've had that talk.

At the high school I mentioned earlier random checks drastically reduced the problem. And - you didn't get kicked out of school. You basically got 3 chances, each occurance with a harsher punishment. Sorry - but if you break the rules of the school, the school has the authority to take action. If the school makes vandalism against the rules, and a kid thrashes the computer lab, probably something should happen. Same thing with drug use on campus.

[Mandate My Ass]

58. this is the feds

and they now deny grants to people with drug arrests. This is simply a way for them to deny benefits to poor people who get high recreationally while making money for drug testing companies.

The feds should not be testing kids if they have no intention of helping them, sorry you think it's OK. It's not on any level.

[ourbluenation]

61. I think it should be up to the district and up to the parents. Not ok

with the federal componant but totally ok with the idea on a local level.

[LostinVA]

67. That's right -- the parents

So, how about the parents who would be AGAINST this being done to their kids? Their viewpoint is just as valid as yours.

[Lost4words]

37. I dont think I would call you a flaiming liberal.

Liberal ,.. maybe but you are not a Flaiming Liberal with that view point IMO.

[ourbluenation]

56. your wrong. thanks though....

as a liberal, leave the parenting to me, ok? If I want to give permission for this then shouldn't I have that right as a parent if I think it will help?

[rexcat]

44. The next thing that will happen...

is parents with kids who have positive drug tests will be arrested for child endangerment or some other concocted reason. Testing is not going to curb the situation. The kids who are doing drugs won't get involved with extracurricular activities which I am sure is the case now.

[ourbluenation]

57. don't be so dramatic - lots of private schools do this already...

and it works. Drug and alchohol problems were greatly reduced.

[rexcat]

59. I am not being dramatic...

More and more, especially in Ohio, parents are being brought up on charges for what their children do. I can easily see this situation panning out. The major problem is parents not doing their job. The kids that get into trouble with the law in our community, for the most part, have parents that are not involved with their kids. It is my job to raise my kids and the money for drug testing could better serve the schools with better pay to teachers, etc. I have not seen anyone here site any peer-reviewed studies on this. Where are the studies?

[ourbluenation]

62. well thank goodness I live in california. the private school I spoke

of that does their own random checks is Mater Dei High School. It's been a successful program. Nobody's parent was charged with anything. There definatly is a right way and a wrong way to approach random checks.

[rexcat]

63. Living in a red state makes a difference...

Punishment is paramount here, not getting someone help! It's a bad situation.

[ourbluenation]

64. it's too bad...a local random drud check policy, if written right, can

be highly effective. Too bad more parents don't kick up a fuss if it's not working.

[rexcat]

65. I have a conceptual problem with random drug testing...

if something were amiss with one of my kids I would be seeking medical advice from their pediatrician. If drugs were thought to be a problem I would ask for a drug screen. Please now that I worked in a clinical laboratory for 14 years and you can have false positive drug screens for many reasons. Even over the counter meds can give you false positives for illicit drugs. Being a responsible parent is important to me. Even though our kids are 10 years old (twins) we have talked to then about drugs and alcohol and will continue to talk to them until they are out of the nest.

We are also the type of parents who want to know their friends and the parents of their friends. This sends a message to them that we do care about their wellbeing and we are connected.

[High Plains]

83. Drug testing in schools has not been proven to work!!!

Check out this study from Monitoring the Future, the folks who do the annual drug use survey among junior and senior high school students.

http://www.monitoringthefuture.org/pubs/text/ryldjpom03.pdf

It finds no difference in use rates between schools that test and those that don't.

Sacrifice your children's civil liberties, not to mention their modesty, for no result? But hey, if it makes you feel better...

[Matariki]

71. why don't you just ask him?

and create an environment where he feels safe telling you the truth?

on edit: i mean instead of relying on the government to do mandatory drug testing on your son?

[Book Lover]

77. That's nice ... for *your* kid

I am also a parent, and I never, *ever*, want my child subjected to these random piss tests and unreasonable searches. You want to sign your kid up, fine, but don't force me to play along.

[mitchum]

87. His 4 friends died from smoking marijuana???!!!

Surely that must be the case, or you would not be equating a dime bag in your son's locker with drug fatalities.

[1932]

38. Public money to private corp. hands transfer scheme,

driven be fear.

Sound familiar?

[depakid]

79. That's EXACTLY what is it

and people will fall for it....

and some kids will end up being hurt by it.

No to mention that it creates a climate where kids are taught that their civil rights don't matter.

[mtnester]

40. Back in 1997 hubby and I got a lawyer to fight the school board on this in

this way (cause we knew we would lose if we fought it outright)

We fought that it was unconstitutional to offer the protection/security of drug testing for athletes only, and exclude the kids who were not in clubs, or band, or sports...I mean, if they were operating under the premise that it was a deterrent, should it not be made available to all kids?

We tried that route, and of course, LOST. Our underlying objection is that this kind of thing usurps parental control...if I thought my son was doing drugs, we would have hauled his ass for a drug test OURSELVES. We did not need the school telling us how to parent.

Now, maybe it should have been offered as a voluntary thing, so that parents that could not afford to test their kids if they have suspicions and wanted to, could avail themselves of it. Of course, then drug testing companies would not make any money....

Frankly, I am sick to death of the government interfering in decisions we make as parents, our homes, and out lives. It is excessive, and I resent it immensely.

[shugah]

41. on the other hand

aren't they also pushing psychological testing in schools so that they can drug kids? but only with the legal stuff like ritalin, anti-depressants, and all the other little pills that pharma makes $$$ from?

seems like a mixed message to me!

[Wise Doubter]

42. " This would be so much easier if this were a dictatorship ...

as long as I`m the dictator." }(

[wordpix2]

43. why is * singling out only those who participate in after-school activity?

The kids who DON'T participate in such activities are the ones who are most at-risk, IMO.

BTW, I am associated with a private school and if a kid is caught with drugs/alcohol, he is usually allowed to stay at the school and given another chance (even though he's broken a major school rule) but is subject to drug testing at any time thereafter.

[AzDar]

49. Let's drug-test everyone on the government payroll, first. Starting

with the fucktard in the White House on down the line.
See how THEY like it.

[Matariki]

70. !!!!

excellent idea!

[superconnected]

51. Wonder which company will get the testing contract.

"In 1990 the federal government spent $11.7 million to test 29,000 federal employees. Since only 153 tested positive, the cost of detecting a single drug user was $77,000." - Nickel and Dimed, by Barbara Ehrenreich.

[superconnected]

52. further more

On same page of same book:

"Why do employers persist in the practice? Probably in part because of advertising by the roughly $2 billion drug-testing industry."

It notes that in examining reasons stated by employers for pre-employment drug testing, it was found that the actually testing either didn't improve the problems, or in some cases, made the problem worse.

[Doctor_J]

60. That's your small-government cons again

I thought they wanted the federal government out of the local schools?

[Matariki]

69. yeah, get them used to the idea that the government owns their bodies

for the future war culture.

[Copperred]

72. We live in the sickest country on earth..

And don't think you (we) are not 100% to blame for it.

[geniph]

74. You have to pee in a cup to sing in choir now?

I'm not quite getting the reasoning there.

"Harmful substances" like marijuana? What is this, 1932? Watch out for signs of Reefer Madness in your teenagers!

My experience with my stepsons and nieces and nephews was that, once they found out their DARE programs had lied to them about how horribly "dangerous" pot was, they no longer believed anything the program had taught them - including warnings about tobacco and crank. They throw the baby out with the bathwater.

Look, nobody wants their teenager spending all their time wasted. But this kind of fascistic repression has a universal effect on teenagers the world over. Does anything make a teenager turn contrary faster than telling them they must NEVER EVER do something? Isn't it better to not be quite so draconian and not quite so absolutist - and doesn't this kind of teaching come best from the PARENTS, not some coach or choirleader holding out a Dixie cup?

[LiberalFighter]

80. Which kids are likely to do drugs?

Those involved in extracurricular activities or just attend regular school activities?

It would seem the ones that might need to be tested would be those that have too much free time. Those that play hooky too much, those that spend time standing against the side of the school during breaks.

[Forkboy]

84. Guilty until proven innocent

The new American Way!

[0007]

86. I guess Neil Bush want to sell his lastest drug testing kits

to the School systems of America