Biden says he's seeking Democratic nomination

[sabra]

http://www.charleston.net/stories/?newsID=77398§ion=localnews

Biden says he's seeking Democratic nomination


Project Seahawk is crucial to ensure safe ports, not just in Charleston but across the U.S. coast, but it's not nearly enough.

So said Sen. Joseph Biden, D-Del., who spoke about the Charleston Harbor Operation Center (known as Project Seahawk), port security, the war in Iraq, and his bid for the Democratic presidential nomination during a visit to Charleston on Wednesday.

...

"I'm looking for the nomination," he said. "I think South Carolina will determine the next (Democratic) candidate."

Winning here depends on "understanding the complexities" of states with a diverse racial and economic makeup, he said.

[OrangeCountyDemocrat]

1. YEAH Biden!

<YAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWN>

[Mandate My Ass]

2. Biden (D-MBNA)?

That guy? :rofl:

[woodsprite]

5. Correct that to D-BOA since Bank of Amer. bought out MBNA. n/t

[Mandate My Ass]

10. Oooops my bad

I wouldn't want to accuse someone like Biden of whoring for just any bank.

[saigon68]

14. He is a whore for Big Business

And he loves to make War, when someone else to doing the "FIGHTING AND THE DYING"

[MagickMuffin]

66. To be Fair he does have a son stationed in Iraq,

or he did have I remember him grilling someone about it. It's been awhile since this happened so I don't quite remember all the details.

Not that I'm a fan of Biden.

I do not care for his politics! Ever since the 80's, every-time I saw Biden, he exposed himself to being against my pursuit of liberty.

[saigon68]

69. I was referring to him, He is like Cheney

Look at his biography-- somehow he avoided "GETTING DRAFTED" and like Cheney he had "OTHER THINGS TO DO"

[MagickMuffin]

81. Duly Noted!

I guess these chicken-hawk warmongers just like to get their war on, since they have never experienced the danger of what a war-zone is like. I've never experienced war either, but I sure wouldn't put other peoples lives in harms way. I don't need the experience, I understand the consequences of what war can do to people.

I hear the military/pentagon hands out incredible bonuses to our representatives in congress. I wouldn't be surprised if Biden got some of that extra dough.

[oasis]

86. Biden's not a warmonger. He co-authored the Biden-Lugar Amendment. (eom)

[karynnj]

90. I thought the son was a lawyer and in the military - but not in Iraq

Obviously things could have changed

[Javaman]

20. As in BOA-constrictor? nt

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

48. Shank of America.

:patriot:

[mod mom]

15. LMAO. nt

[n2doc]

3. Who cares?

Biden is just another DINO who will bite out badly in the primaries, just like Joementum. I mean, it ain't like his previous Presidential Campaigns went well...

God help us if SC determines the next candidate- that place has more fundies than most and was the place that handed W the nomination in 2000. I suppose Biden thinks of himself as another W. Maybe he will have operatives calling SC voters and telling them about Gore's secret black love child....

[pokercat999]

87. I live in SC. IMHO Biden is just a B* with a little

more intelligence and better diction. He shouldn't be a Senator let alone Prez.

Step down now and let a progressive take your place Mr. B.

[mattclearing]

4. He said that last week on the Today Show too.

Good luck with that, Joe. :D

[LibDemAlways]

6. Biden is full of himself.

Completely out of touch with the base. He'll be the Lieberman of 2008. His Joementum will take him just as far.

[riona]

19. i no go for the joe's

[MADem]

7. If he wants to run, fine. He will add a certain perspective to the debate

That said, I don't think he has a chance in hell of winning. They'll drag up the LAST TIME he ran, before he got those pathetic hair plugs, and focus on how he lifted, damn near word-for-word, a speech by Neil Kinnock. This was before them there internets, and it took a while before people realized that he friken PLAGERIZED the entire speech.

Hey, if I remember the event, others will, too.

But that said, he'll add a level of interest to the debates. He's dead serious about doing this, too. He has been planning it for a while. He knows it's now or never....and at the end of the day, it will be never.

[havocmom]

13. Biden in the primaries will give REAL DEMS a way to show contrast

It's a good thing! ;)

[karynnj]

92. Add in his beyond pathetic questioning of Alito

where on one turn, I learned that he didn't go to Princeton because he was Irish Catholic and they were discriminated against. His kids looked there but chose to go to college in Pennsylvania.......

More of the important constitutional balance of powers issues were raised by, non-Judiciary committee member, John Kerry in his speech on the day of the cloture vote than were raised as quaetions by Biden. (Feingold did ask questions relating to these concerns).

A month of Joe's stories will kill his chances.

[sundancekid]

8. empty big mouth meets voluminous hot air - AGAIN

[AlCzervik]

9. i will never be able to get past his vote for the bankruptcy bill--

the hair plugs and ginormous caps aren't all that helpful either.

[MurrayDelph]

32. I've been fed up with him longer than that

I remember when he torpedoed Anita Hill's testimony because it was getting in the way of his camera time (after all, wasn't the point of the hearing to show how clever he was?).

Or, when he talked tough about the need for the Geneva Conventions, then kissed Alberto Gonzalez's butt.

Somewhere along the way, I started thinking of him as not dissimilar to a fictional Senator, and
started thinking of him as "Joe-jo Biden". As I have posted before:




"Meesa likes you, Missah Gonzalez. Yousa realdeal."

[SaveElmer]

11. Biden is a good Democrat...

But the time when he might have had a chance is past. But he is a good speaker and debater, so should make things interesting...

[saigon68]

29. a good speaker and debater AGREE

a good candidate---- DISAGREE

[hedgehog]

36. Agreed

Too much water over the bridge, not enough fight left. He might be good in the Cabinet, but I want a fighter in the White House. He's not angry enough for me.

[yurbud]

59. the way a dog that's neutered is good?

[UpInArms]

12. the Biden that "loves" Gonzales?

:rofl:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A54607-2005Jan6?language=printer

"We're looking for you, when we ask you questions, to give us an answer, which you haven't done yet," Sen. Joseph R. Biden Jr. (D-Del.) told Gonzales. "I love you, but you're not very candid so far."

Gonzales said "it is appropriate to revisit" the Geneva Conventions, which provide an international standard of conduct for handling detainees during military conflicts. Gonzales disclosed that White House officials, including some lawyers, had held "some very preliminary discussion" about the idea, but he said "it's not been a systematic project or effort."

Gonzales did not say what revisions are under consideration, but he said they would not affect provisions requiring "basic, decent treatment of human beings."

An August report by a panel of experts appointed by the Defense Department endorsed the idea of adapting the 1949 conventions "to the realities of the nature of conflict in the 21st century." It particularly urged the creation of a legal category for detainees from terrorist groups, who presumably would not be afforded the same protections as other detainees. The International Committee of the Red Cross immediately condemned the idea of changing the Geneva Conventions.

[Javaman]

16. if he gets in, it's like replacing one industry shill with another...

instead of a moron* with special interests in oil, we would replace him* with another boob that has special interests in credit card corps...

Yeah, that would help us a lot. let's look into the future, shall we...

Reporter: several months after prez biden took office, people are still without heating fuel because of peek oil and no alternatives are in site, however it was reported today, that MBNA has opened it's own debtors prison. MBNA was a major sponsor of bidens election. In other news, the city of light is no more...

So that's it folks, first they fuck us with morons* "energy" policy by rising prices and putting the vast majority of the pop deeper into debt, then biden will fuck us with his "economy" policy that will be molded around credit card debt.

First they freeze you out, then they squeeze you out. sort of like frozen pudding.

biden is nothing more than an opportunist, however, if he gets the nod, he will become pure evil. If you recall he was the one that helped the new bankruptcy bill pass. Lovely fellow.

[Bush_Eats_Beef]

17. "Dear Joe Biden, please seek THIS."

:rofl:

[Lostnote06]

18. "Yawnnnnnn"

......I do not have a clue as to whom would be the best choice however Sen.Biden does not do it for me.....He is a good man and a skilled politician......

[Teaser]

21. "Where is it anyway?"

nt

[elfin]

22. Looks like we are going to have a very splintered Primary

Season --- again. The only candidate to benefit from this will be Hillary with her money and committed core (not me) to win a bare plurality contest to contest with the "Not Hilary" candidates splitting up the rest.

Not good -- plus as I have said MANY times before -- Biden is a jerk.

My two favorites at this point are Clark and Edwards.

[Josh]

23. (ala Arrested Development) Him?

nt.

[the other one]

24. This is not a serious candidacy. This is to line up a book deal.

And oh shit I can't stop laughing!!!!!!!!!

:rofl:

[xxqqqzme]

25. he can look all he wants

he's not gonna find it.

Sorry, my initial introduction 2 biden was his questioning of Anita Hill. He all but called her a liar during those hearings. I cannot vote for him.

[Vidar]

26. Makes Hillary look good.

[IndianaGreen]

46. Shit, I just posted the same sentiments

Great minds think alike!

[Vidar]

57. Ain't it the truth?

[Peace Patriot]

27. A smoothie warmonger, in the pocket of the military-industrial complex.

He's positioning himself to get the nod from Howard Ahmanson (Diebold/ES&S), in case Hillary doesn't fly.

The fascist junta needs a War Democrat in the White House--on whom they can begin blaming Bush's financial and foreign policy disasters, and from whom they can get a military Draft (Bush can't do it--not with his numbers). They also want a Dem in office when various shits start hitting various fans (economic meltdown, veterans' protests, food riots, old grannies in wheelchairs protesting the disappearance of their Social Security checks, etc.). Might be prep for the real Hitler in '12.

You can forget the majority getting to choose the Dem candidate in the '08 primaries. He/she will have been 'chosen' for you by then. Diebold/ES&S not only controls general elections; they also control primary elections--with "TRADE SECRET," PROPRIETARY programming code, and virtually no audit/recount controls. Election system brought to you by the two biggest crooks in Congress, Tom Delay and Bob Ney.

And, in case you don't know who Howard Ahmanson is, what kinds of causes he supports, what kind of resources he has to support them with, and what his connection is to Diebold/ES&S, I suggest that you Google him, and learn WHO is behind the completion of the Bush coup in 2004.

Throw Diebold, ES&S and all election theft machines into 'Boston Harbor' NOW!

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Some resources for American Revolution II:

Breaking news:

Californians sue the state over Diebold:
www.VoterAction.org--just announced--suing the state of California and 18 Calif county registrars on behalf of 25 California voter/plaintiffs, on the illegal Diebold "certification".
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2180496

Maryland rejects Diebold:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x418263

Flordia - anti-trust accusations against Diebold, ES&S and Sequoia:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2183630


www.votersunite.org (MythBreakers - easy primer on electronic voting--one of the myths is that HAVA requires electronic voting; it does not.)
www.verfiedvoting.org (great activist site)
www.votetrustusa.org (news of this great movement from around the country)
www.UScountvotes.org (statistical monitoring of '06 and '08 elections)
www.solarbus.org/election/index.shtml (fab compendium of all election info)
www.freepress.org (devoted to election reform)
www.bradblog.com (also great, and devoted to election reform)
www.TruthIsAll.net (analysis of the 2004 election)* :patriot: :applause: :patriot:
Sign the petition (Russ Holt, HR 550, great bill-has 169 sponsors). http://www.rushholt.com/petition.html
www.votepa.us (well-organized local group of citizen activists in Pennsylvania, where important legal issues are at stake, including state's rights over election systems)

www.debrabowen.com (Calif Senator running for Sec of State to reform election system)
www.johnbonifaz.com (running for Massachusetts Sec of State on strong election reform and antiwar platform)

*Some tributes to TruthIsAll, who is very ill:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x417007
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x417231
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x675477

Also of interest:

Bob Koehler (-- four recent election reform initiatives in Ohio, predicted to win by 60/40 votes, flipped over, on election day, into 60/40 LOSSES!--the biggest flipover we've seen yet; the election theft machines and their masters are now dictating election policy!)
www.tmsfeatures.com/tmsfeatures/subcategory.jsp?file=20051124ctnbk-a.txt&catid=1824&code=ctnbk

Bob Koehler's latest: "Take this box and stuff it" (3/16/06)
http://commonwonders.com/archives/col337.htm

Amaryllis (Diebold, ES&S, Sequoia lavish lobbying of election officials - Beverly Hilton, Aug. '05)
www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x380340

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Throw Diebold, ES&S and ALL election theft machines into 'Boston Harbor' NOW!

:think: :patriot: :woohoo: :patriot: :think:

[wiley]

28. I can't... I can't even comment

[ladjf]

30. No Bidden. Please let us not waste our time on money on Bidden.

[Rowdyboy]

31. I sense a lack of "Joe-mentum", at least here on DU.....

I think he's gonna find fund raising a bitch and doubt he'll make it all the way to New Hampshire.

[buddysmellgood]

41. I think if Biden saw the response on DU he'd hang it up right now.

[AngryAmish]

73. I've popped a Joe-ner!

it's my joke and I'm gonna run it into the ground

[ToeBot]

85. Congratulations, you hit dirt the first time out! n/t

[AngryAmish]

88. I try, I try

[RedEarth]

33. No thanks....

[JCMach1]

34. Stay in the Sen. Joe... the bank industry

still needs you...

[Rainscents]

35. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

:eyes:

[understandinglife]

37. Medicate that man before he hurts himself ... anyone that delusional ...

... needs help ...


Be The Bu$h Opposition - 24/7

[flyarm]

38. good luck joe..you wont have my vote!! n/t

[deutsey]

39. Man, how delusional must he be?

:shrug:

[Pastiche423]

44. Delusional is his middle name

Do I misremember this? Din't he do the same (consider running) in 2003? He acted coy until he saw how low his poll#'s were.

No F'ing Way, Joe!

[lovuian]

40. He voted for the Iraq War talked about the Draft and is a hawk

and kissed Bush's butt on many votes... all I can say is EWWW!!!

[DoYouEverWonder]

42. No thank you

n/t

[WinkyDink]

43. Let him seek. Doesn't mean he'll find.

Certainly I won't help him on his way up.

[harpo]

96. ditto

[IndianaGreen]

45. Bring it on!

Biden makes Hillary look good!

[madmark]

47. we can replace bushco with team mbna

[CTyankee]

49. Something happened when he had that brain aneurism

and he's not been right since.

It's sad, really. He's a bright guy, but now he's just a bit pathetic, if not downright puzzling.

[Nomen Tuum]

50. Just say NO to Joe Bidet.

:puke:

[Nomen Tuum]

51. Just say NO to Joe Bidet.

:puke:

[TroglodyteScholar]

52. NO thankyou n/t

[Solly Mack]

53. Everyone should have a dream...a goal to work toward

heaps ashes...

[WhiteTara]

54. don't quit your day job, Joe n/t

[bpilgrim]

55. status quo joe

no thanks

peace

[noonwitch]

56. The GOP will never let anyone forget that he cheated in college

He can't win.

[yurbud]

58. the appropriate response from real democrats (PIC)

http://fecalgram.com/store/fecalgram#

NOTE:

Joe,

You are a steaming pile of shit. I would vote for this pile of shit before you.

Love,

America

[memory]

60. BLEAH!

Biden makes me sick.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

61. No thanks.

This guy's ego is so big, I'm surprised his hair plugs haven't exploded.

[Rene]

62. biden's a blowhard and a bore. he acts like this is all a joke

tell him to sit this one out. he's a loser

[Strathos]

63. I don't trust him

He appears to be just another slimy politician to me. His opinion changes with the popularity of what's going on.

We need a standout.

We need a rebel.

We need someone who isn't afraid to be himself and not beholding to special interest.

[54anickel]

64. The person you describe would end up being labelled as "unelectable" as

they start the meme of "electable" about some DINO / DC-insider type. There are very few that meet your last criteria, "someone who isn't afraid to be himself and not beholding to special interest".

Don't get me wrong, I agree with what you're calling for, but it just ain't gonna happen in today's America. TPTB made sure they covered that sort of thing from happening since Carter took them by surprise and won the nomination and then the presidency in the '70s.

[Frank Cannon]

65. BIDEN / LIEBERMAN in 2008!!!!

And then I woke up screaming. :wow:

[bemildred]

67. Yeah, Joementum II.

Buy yourself an extra large jar of Vaseline(tm) if they get elected.

[goforit]

72. Now that is one F*cking nightmare.

Yikes !

[YankeyMCC]

84. Now that's scary!

[Media_Lies_Daily]

68. Hell, no!! Biden is a NeoCon in Democratic Party clothing!

[Zorra]

74. Agreed. "Hell no, we don't want Joe". n/t

[goforit]

70. Biden is running so that the PNAC agenda will continue!!!

Corrupt people suck!

[ldf]

71. yes, and i'm seeking to win the lottery

i think our chances are about the same.

now transplant joe can legitimately go on all the talk shows and talk about himself, instead of taking up precious time during senate investigations, talking about himself.

no one has told joe that "the old school" is so... old! dated. past. done with. (at least we can hope, can't we?)

joe can blow. and i mean that in a BAD sense. :-)

[LuckyLib]

75. Message to Joe: That you can look around, take stock of how

the Repugs have hijacked the Constitution, consider your congressional colleagues' utter impotence, and even begin to think you could somehow get us out of this mess is laughable. As Democratic candidates begin to materialize both in your home state and nationally, quietly ask the 37 people who still support you to vote for those who can actually make a difference.

Edited for spelling.

[Exiled in America]

76. Fuck you, Biden.

You're already dead to me.

[BooScout]

77. He will never get my vote.n/t

[MellowOne]

78. When I clicked into this thread, I thought it must be a joke

With all the great choices, he's last on the totem pole.

[VegasWolf]

79. Biden can blow me. nt

[Zodiak]

80. Biden sides with the Dems 66% of the time

I admit he reserves his betrayals for some really painful moments, but he is twice as good as Leiberman.

Click on my journal if you want to know more about scoring our senators on their voting records.

[stepnw1f]

82. Another Suit and Tie Man Selling America with a Smile

Fuck him and the corporate media that props him up.

[killbotfactory]

83. Yeah, well... wish in one hand, shit in the other

see which one fills up first.

[wordpix2]

89. pls. send me link re: Biden-MBNA to summarize his evil according to DU

I LIKE Biden. However, I don't live in DE and don't know about his MBNA transgressions.

At least the man's articulate and has a brain.

[graywarrior]

91. You mean bye-bye Biden?

Why would we nominate a loser?

[Kenergy]

93. Good luck Joe, better get some stem cells and grow a spine first n/t

[worldgonekrazy]

94. Joe Biden=smarmy blowhard

Still though, I welcome him in to the fray. He's big in to the national security stuff so he can help make the party look strong on that in the primaries, before losing to someone actually worthwhile.

[TankLV]

95. Stuff it joe - you tratorous DINO asswipe!

Maybe if you stopped giving aid and comfort to the REPUKES and stopped CRITICIZING OTHER DEMS WHEN THE CRITICIZE THIS WAR CRIMINAL PRESIDENT, then we'd listen to you.

HINT: WE'VE STOPPED PAYING ATTENTION TO ANYTHING YOU HAVE TO SAY YEARS AGO, JOE!

JUST GO AWAY JOE!

Don't you have a lunch date with holy joe soon?

[antonialee839]

97. I hope it's like looking for a needle in a haystack.

[Renew Deal]

98. Here's the official celebration thread.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=734939&mesg_id=734939

[Emillereid]

99. Good Grief! He's such a loser!