WP: Iraqi Doctor Admits to Killings

[huckleberry]

this article also mentions the 30 headless bodies, and other terrible incidents --


By John Ward Anderson and Ellen Knickmeyer
Washington Post Foreign Service
Sunday, March 26, 2006; 3:15 PM

BAGHDAD, March 26 -- A doctor in the northern city of Kirkuk has admitted to killing at least 35 Iraqi police officers and Army soldiers by giving them lethal injections, reopening their wounds and engaging in other deadly acts as they were being treated in Kirkuk Hospital, according to Kurdish security sources and Kurdish television.

On Sunday, Kurdish TV aired what it said was the doctor's taped confession, in which he told police that he sympathized with the radical Sunni Arab insurgent group Ansar al-Sunna, which paid him to kill the men. He worked with the group, he said, because "I hate the Americans and what they've done to Iraq."

"I injected more than 35 policeman and soldiers, including officers and some who were slightly injured," the doctor, identified by a Kurdish security official as Luay Omar Taie, said in the taped statement. "I used to stop the breathing machines or cut the electricity in the operations room or reopen the wounds."

much more at

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/26/AR2006032600236.html

[DS1]

1. Give him a femoral artery wound and then release him to the masses

[rpannier]

2. Sick and twisted

I have little sympathy for this guy. There is zero justification for what he did.

[malaise]

3. One more depraved human being

in the middle of depravity. There is zero justification for everything going on in Iraq srarting with the illegal invasion.

[rpannier]

4. What's really disturbing and frightening to me is

This guy is a physician. He knows how to inflict real damage to a person because he has a real acute understanding of the human body.

[malaise]

5. Yes that is the saddest part here

but even physicians are going mad in the madness that is Iraq. How many of them were prevented from taking care of the dying. How many of them watched colleagues murdered in the name of freedom and democracy. What a fucking mess but who am I to judge him when I don't know what I'd do in that situation.

[Name removed]

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[The Stranger]

25. Aren't there physicians assisting in the torture techniques at Guantanamo?

There was an international call for the revocation of their licenses.

[Betsy Ross]

6. This is the most gruesome story I have heard

of this war. Too many children maimed and killed, horiffic acts, but this completely overwhelms me.

[Ben Ceremos]

10. Killing soldiers

isn't a war-crime. Killing innocent babies, men and women is. If you haven't been more disgusted by young Ali whose arms were blown off, or the massacres of shoppers and worshippers doing naught but attempting to live under "Nazi"occupation, then you have to realign your moral compass. Killing injured soldiers is a-ok in war time, Bush says so...

[Barrett808]

18. Iirc, wounded soldiers are considered h'ors de combat...

...and are not to be attacked. So this is almost certainly a war crime.

[stillcool]

7. Important sentence in article....

The circumstances of the alleged confession, including whether it might have been coerced, could not be verified.

[951-Riverside]

8. We're built some skool!!!!

Why doesnt you libberalls focuss no that!!!!

:sarcasm:

[bunkerbuster1]

27. report thuh Good Nooze!

we dun bilt a bridge what we dun blowed up last year!

[BreweryYardRat]

11. Hurry up on the execution for this one.

Evil bastard. Hope whatever method chosen is slow and agonizing.

[Karmakaze]

12. Execute him the same day they execute those troops...

who were caught on film taking pot shots at a wounded Iraqi soldier and cheering when they finally killed him.

[Mnemosyne]

15. And your comment makes you better than this doctor how? n/t

[superconnected]

22. His comment does not lower him to the doctors level.

Unless you're a fanatic and can't see the difference.

The problem with some people against the DP is they can't see the difference. It's like dealing with peta. All rationalism out the window. Or dealing with a gun nut for that matter. You tallying someone pro killing a murderer, as no better than the person who murdered dozens, is as insane as any glassy eyed gun nut supporting their cause.

BTW, I said "some" people against the DP. Specifically the ones that would say what you just did.

[Mnemosyne]

28. I am against the death penalty, however if you are using it as a

weapon of revenge and vindication then you become no better than those who murdered originally. It became obvious to me that * was a madman when he so gleefully mocked Karla Tucker when he was asked to commute her sentence to life in prison. I could hear * chiming in for a slow and agonizing death for someone. How is the poster any better by their statement?

Guess I'm just a fanatic about human beings not being forced to die slow and agonizing deaths as punishment. I can go to FR to read that kind of vile crap.

It helped justify what happened in Fallujah. "They beheaded and burned our people." It made it alright to many here in America to go into Fallujah and massacre and use white phosphorus and who knows what other deadly material. They "deserved" it, right?! And me being against such shit makes me a fanatic?!

Bye.

[maddezmom]

13. this is horrifying

but not shocking with all the other bits of news coming out of Iraq.

[sofa king]

14. Is this story a plant?

You know, one of the fine hairs being split by the Bush Administration is that stories planted in Iraq by semi-governmental psyops organizations such as the http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/8798997/the_man_who_sold_the_war/?rnd=1143471418546&has-player=unknown">Rendon Group don't affect Americans here at home, so it's not illegally planting propaganda here in the U.S.

Then last week, the President spluttered around criticizing the media for not printing the "good news" coming out of Iraq. I was holding my breath, hoping that the President would cite some of those planted stories as examples of the "good news." That could have been added somewhere around Article MMCXII of the President's future impeachment articles. Either I missed it, or maybe he was coached not to, or maybe the press was coached not to ask, but I didn't see him do it.

But what about this story? It's got all sorts of plant-like attributes: an evil doctor breaking his sacred oath, a whole lot of difficult to verify victims, a confession in a place where it's known that torture is used, confirmation from shady intelligence types, and relayed via Kurdish television. Anyone want to take a look and see if that Kurdish TV station is funded by the CIA, say through the Voice of America?

If it is a plant, and it made the A Section of the Washington Post, that would sort of negate the idea that this propaganda isn't filtering back to Americans, wouldn't it?

[Mnemosyne]

16. Thank you for sanity. n/t

[Bridget Burke]

19. The story sounds pretty odd to me, as well.

I really DON'T see a doctor acting that way. Unless he was really insane--"patriotism" would not be sufficient motivation.

[foo_bar]

30. unfortunately, it wouldn't be the first time

An inquiry into the crimes of Britain's most prolific serial killer, Dr Harold Shipman, has examined a further 137 deaths at the training hospital that employed him as a young man in the 1970s.

Earlier reports published by the inquiry said Shipman did not begin his compulsively murderous behaviour until 1975, but it was revealed in Britain on Wednesday that the final report, due next week, will canvass a further 137 deaths which occurred at his training hospital, Pontefract General Infirmary, in West Yorkshire.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/World/Killer-doctors-toll-could-climb-by-137/2005/01/20/1106110881916.html

see also: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1883620295/103-9896524-7031865?v=glance&n=283155

[superconnected]

21. that make sense, but we have psychos right here posting they

would do the same thing.

So there are people that would do that.

God help us if they ever get the chance.

[Mnemosyne]

29. If you are referring to my post, I did not condone

killing anyone in a hospital, only the occupiers. Would not anyone in this country kill occupiers here also? Not in a hospital, that's horrid, but the occupiers.

And you should read the slow and agonizing death advocates posts. How are they any better than those that would kill their occupiers?

[superconnected]

32. It mistifies me how you can assume that comment would be targeted at you.

[Mnemosyne]

33. Easily mystified aren't you.

And apparently spell-check "mistifies" you also.

Have a nice day.

[donsu]

17. if I was in his shoes and another country was occupying america I too

would try and kill the occupiers. Iraqis who work for the bushmilhousegang, like cops and the Iraqi army we are building are thought of as collaborators.

[superconnected]

20. when they're in the hospital, wounded.

Ewww.

I can only see this being done by someone with a serial killer personality.

I don't care how this guy or you justify it.

If it was "normal", it wouldn't be making the news.

[donsu]

23. you might think differently if your family/friends/neighbors etc. are

killed, blown to bits.

the bushmilhousegang won't let you see war on the TV

if they did - you'd know

during WWII we saw everything in newsreels at the movies (TV not invented), saw photos in the papers and magazines. special mag. editions would come out when a lot of war pics come back to US.

we saw it all, every day of the war and after. when hitler's camps were opened. those sights are seared in my brain. and the words we read in books after the war.

even us kids

that's what is needed now A FREE PRESS devoid of the religiously insane so we can SEE what we have done.

[superconnected]

26. Somehow I doubt I'd show up at a hospital and start killing the

wounded, even if my family was blown to bits.

Like I said, it takes a serial killer mentality, to be a serial killer.

[superconnected]

31. .

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[hedgehog]

24. I'd just like to point out for argument's sake that the

Hippocratic oath is a Western convention. There is no saying that this doctor ever took such an oath. And after all, our own leader has let the cat out of the bag so to speak by saying that the Geneva conventions don't apply.