NYT: Bush Was Set on Path to War, Memo by British Adviser Says

[grytpype]

Another Downing Street Memo!

http://nytimes.com/2006/03/27/international/europe/27memo.html?hp&ex=1143435600&en=b6593aee0e01d384&ei=5094&partner=homepage

Bush Was Set on Path to War, Memo by British Adviser Says
By DON VAN NATTA Jr.

LONDON — In the weeks before the United States-led invasion of Iraq, as the United States and Britain pressed for a second United Nations resolution condemning Iraq, President Bush's public ultimatum to Saddam Hussein was blunt: Disarm or face war.

But behind closed doors, the president was certain that war was inevitable. During a private two-hour meeting in the Oval Office on Jan. 31, 2003, he made clear to Prime Minister Tony Blair of Britain that he was determined to invade Iraq without the second resolution, or even if international arms inspectors failed to find unconventional weapons, said a confidential memo about the meeting written by Mr. Blair's top foreign policy adviser and reviewed by The New York Times.

...

The memo indicates the two leaders envisioned a quick victory and a transition to a new Iraqi government that would be complicated, but manageable. Mr. Bush predicted that it was "unlikely there would be internecine warfare between the different religious and ethnic groups." Mr. Blair agreed with that assessment.

The memo also shows that the president and the prime minister acknowledged that no unconventional weapons had been found inside Iraq. Faced with the possibility of not finding any before the planned invasion, Mr. Bush talked about several ways to provoke a confrontation, including a proposal to paint a United States surveillance plane in the colors of the United Nations in hopes of drawing fire, or assassinating Mr. Hussein.

Much, much more at the link.

[The Backlash Cometh]

1. So, can we impeach now?

[adriennui]

24. fine with me....

bill clinton was impeached for much less....the chimp is destroying this country.

[cain_7777]

79. The Hidden Strategy

There is strategy at play here. What everyone seems to forget is that the government was designed to move slowly to protect against radical change, something the neocon fundamentalists are too ignorant to know or care about. Feingold's popularity stems from him being a bold leader. His constituents voted him in office partly because of his independence, and the Democratic party knows this. He was let loose to propose the censure alone in order to disassociate himself from the rest of the party so as the backlash would not be so great against the entire party heading into Nov. 06. At the same time it keeps the dialogue open about Bush's incompetence. This positions us for greater retribution when we take congress. This memorandum came to light months ago, and I'm sure there will be more and more coming to light. The drumbeat will get louder and louder, but we must keep our energy focused on our cause of taking America back.

[Maraya1969]

92. That is a good and succinct explanation of what they are planning

And it drives me mad because I have no patience.

[saigon68]

94. "HE TRIED TO KILL MY DADDY"

Shouted the Baby in the BIG smelly rotten diaper, when asked why He wanted to go to War against Saddam

[The Backlash Cometh]

106. And Helen Thomas asked him right after that outburst if personal

vendettas were now foreign policy.

[saigon68]

107. I remember that

His daddy is also a War Criminal

[Canuckistanian]

128. Was it also the plan to make Dems look like wimps?

Sorry, but if this is a plan, it's a stategical and PR disaster.

When this administration is brought down, people will be asking why it was the Republicans themselves who did it.

The only thing that will save Democrats at this point is if there is widespread discussion about incompetence. I see no sign of that yet.

[KansDem]

61. Works for me...

Should be obvious, even to the most strident, die-hard Bush boot-lickers.

[Roland99]

65. We should be able to file actual criminal charges at this point!!!

[Just Me]

68. Yep. Memo is proof of intentionally defrauding congress and,...

,...the American people into a war without basis --> an UNLAWFUL war.

BushCO & the neoconsters are guilty of committing high crimes against the U.S.A.: defrauding this nation into an unlawful war, premeditated violations of the constitution, misuse of federal funds, government-sponsored overt propaganda, maiming/murdering and committing a slew of human rights violations.

They should each and every one go directly to prison!!!

[Roland99]

102. EVERY Dem MUST get behind Conyers and Feingold on this NOW!

Otherwise, they are traitors to their party and to their nation.

[Zambero]

66. Looking for several ways to provoke a confrontation?

So Helen Thomas was right on target when she asked Bush why he wanted to go to war. Bush lied through his teeth when he said he didn't, and was beyond evasive when he refused to address why we were still in Iraq, given Thomas' point that all the stated reasons for military action had been disproved one by one. Bush not only favored war, but was bound and determined to be the perpetrator if necessary. This is WAY beyond any rationale for a so-called "pre-emptive" strike. How much lower does the accountability bar need to be lowered? I fear we'll never be able to extricate ourselves from the bottomless pit that Bush-Cheney has dug this country into -- and yet they keep digging.

[Roland99]

76. Wonder how many press conferences the Propagandist will have this week?

[wordpix2]

81. we wish but Repiglican Congress wants to keep BushCo forever because

they're doing such a heckuva job. :sarcasm:

[Bassic]

86. No, even though the evidence is clear

it will be spinned as "beside the point" Don't trust your lying eyes. Loads and loads of clear evidence of incompetence and dishonesty making their way to your computer screen are obivously a partisan Democrat ploy to undermine Chimpy's great and noble administration.

[ClintonTyree]

101. Hey, Saddam gassed his own people, had rape and torture rooms...

and was an evil, evil man. The world is a safer place with Saddam gone. And just look at the progress that has been made in Iraq! :eyes: Flowers are being thrown at our soldiers (or are those IEDs?), we're being greeted as liberators (or is it crusading occupiers?) and people who once lived in fear are free (are they staying inside their homes because they want to, or are they afraid they'll be blown to hell if the step outside?).
Everything, EVERYTHING that bush and Blair thought would happen didn't happen. The exact opposite occurred.
The evidence IS clear. bush took us to war for HIS revenge, because Saddam threatened his Daddy. Defending your parents is a noble gesture but you don't start wars over it.
You're correct though. This will be spun until there isn't anything left to spin. The American people, already sick to death of bush, will never think any better of him than they do at this point in time. Our Democratic "leaders" will "keep their powder dry" and HOPE that it leads them to victory in November rather than actually doing anything about it. They wouldn't want to appear "angry" or partisan. :puke:
Sorry, I just had to rant. :rant: I can't imagine the hue and cry if a Democrat had done all this, but since it's a good, god-fearing, patriotic Republican...........let's just let it pass. x(

[warrens]

109. Hey, I just noticed my office has a rape room

It's got a door and a floor and four walls and a ceiling. What else could it be for? GOTTA be a rape room. Someone notify Homeland Security. My boss must be a terraist.

Seriously, wtf is a rape room and what kind of gooney birds ever fell for that bullshit in the first place? I mean, other than FReetards.

[Bassic]

127. Rape room?

I think I missed that, what the hell are they calling a rape room?

[Bassic]

126. Rant as much as you like,

Because you're right. The double standard between Dems and Repubs is so clear even a baby could see it.

Which, I guess, is quite clear in the minds of the red-necks, the fundies and other Freepers, they just like it that way. "All men are created equal" just doesen't ring much of a patriotic bell in them.

[REACTIVATED IN CT]

108. Only if Cheney is impeached too n/t

[m0nkeyneck]

124. not until he admits it himself..

[babylonsister]

2. Premeditated war? Treason, anyone? nt

[Supersedeas]

130. SO HE DID CHOSE WAR - he doesn't hate it - * CHOSE it

[TankLV]

3. I've read this many times before - weeks before.

It is hardly "breaking news" to us.

But good to keep it alive anyway - the whore media & media whores are ignoring it as usual.

[IndianaGreen]

7. Yes, I read this before in the British press, many weeks ago

and it is now just getting around to the NY Times!!!!!!

[rodeodance]

30. the reporter says it was first reported 'last month"

Discussing Provocation

Without much elaboration, the memo also says the president raised three possible ways of provoking a confrontation. Since they were first reported last month, neither the White House nor the British government has discussed them.

[Mr_Spock]

123. I knew I had read about this on DU before...

I wonder why it took so long to break in the MSM?

[Mojorabbit]

4. About damn time

I remember writing them imploring them to write articles re the downing street memos way back and getting a snarky email from them in response.

[RedEarth]

5. Was wondering when msm would pick up on these memos

[IndianaGreen]

8. Better late than never, but why now?

Perhaps some members of the ruling class have decided to ditch Bush altogether in order to protect their interests. Bush has done great harm to capitalists' interests in Latin America, for example.

[unblock]

13. shrub has become an unsalvageable liability to the powers that be

it's too much work to ressucitate him for the sake of his last few lame duck years, and the risk of him dragging down the rest of the republican party is too much for the powers that be. they are trying to set up the next generation of puppets, and since shrub has negative coattails, their best strategy is to make room for the next "leaders" to attack shrub. hence, the "incompetent" meme, etc.

[hippiechick]

47. Bingo!

:applause: He's about to be hung out to dry by those same backroom fellas that got him into the Oval Office to begin with.

We lowly plebians merely need to sit back and wait for our cue to join the torch and pitchfork brigade.

[unblock]

52. no rest for the weary.

true enough as far as shrub is concerned, he's toast.

unfortunately, once he's out, the interests of us and the powers that be diverge again. we must ensure that shrub's replacement is on OUR side.

[glitch]

78. He better hope that's all they do. nt

[grasswire]

100. I always wondered when Bush would realize he was expendable.

He has served his purpose. Did he have no inkling that he could be jettisoned any time Cheney wants him gone? Did he not think Rove might save the GOP by betraying Bush? Did he never consider the fact that his own father might trip him up?

Has the man read no history? A thousand possible plots come to mind.

[LynnTheDem]

6. "I never wanted to go to war" bush lied last week.

bush; serial liar, war criminal.

[IndianaGreen]

9. I thought Bush was a liar

now I think that he lives in his own reality.

[LynnTheDem]

10. He's one fucked up dude, either way.

[IndianaGreen]

16. He should be on meds and in a mental institution

Cheney should be in a straight jacket!

[LynnTheDem]

18. "the crazies". They'd be locked up if they weren't born filthy rich.

[arewenotdemo]

33. what he meant was...

he never wanted to go to Vietnam after exiting Yale in 1968.

[rodeodance]

73. yes, I recall that now--last monday he said that to Helen Thomas.

[oasis]

11. War was supposed to be Bush's"last resort". He must have been lying.

Again.

[NashVegas]

12. What We Need Now

Are the notes from the period two weeks before and 8 weeks after 9/11/2001, where the *coughs* brain-trust sat down and figured out how to get us into war with Iraq.

[Hissyspit]

14. K & R

[Jack Rabbit]

15. This was reported in the British press not long ago

It's good to see it's going to get some coverage here, too.

Anybody who, after reading this, still believes the regime's that the intelligence was bad and they acted on that is in denial. Bush wanted war and lied to get it.

He should be impeached and tried as a war criminal. That is a moral imperative.

[IndianaGreen]

17. It should be noted that it is the NY Times that is republishing this

something is up among the elites!

[Jack Rabbit]

19. Maybe we can get Donald Trump to make it official

"Dubya, you're fired."

Well, think about it, IG. Do you think even the rich want any more of this? An economy in the tank doesn't really do them any good either. After all, they still expect us to buy that crap they make.

[journalist3072]

20. This is actually already known

This came out about a month or so again. It was referred to as a new Downing Street Memo.

This was the one in which Bush was so concerned about the lack of evidence against Sadaam, that he considered flying U2 reconnassance planes over Iraq, and disguising them as U.N. planes and painting them in U.N. colors. In other words, he wanted to entrap Sadaam.

[progressoid]

21. No shit? Gosh, why haven't we heard about this earlier?

:sarcasm:

[IChing]

23. No shit? Gosh I guess the NY times never read newspapers on the DSM

I feel like I am in a time warp with that headline from them.

Downing Street Memo was that really a year ago? I can't remember it has been so long.

[IndianaGreen]

26. A decision has been made to dump Bush!

A significant number of the elites have decided that Bush has to go, or at a minimum, everyone else connected to the Iraq fiasco has to go, from Rumsfeld to Cheney.

Could we see a bloodless coup in the making?

[IChing]

31. I think they are afraid that they are complicit in War Crimes

Which they are, if the coup comes from within the Nazi government, from Nazi officials to get rid of the fuhrer,
no wait wrong war...
but it makes one think.

[KoKo]

63. You are more hopeful than I am about this.

They aren't going anywhere. Too many bodies to be discovered if they go...

But, hope springs eternal....I hope you are correct...still...

[KansDem]

113. "Could we see a bloodless coup in the making?"

Could be...after all, these people have experience along those lines!

[cal04]

22. (guardian)Blair-Bush deal before Iraq war revealed in secret memo

PM promised to be 'solidly behind' US invasion with or without UN backing
Richard Norton-Taylor
Friday February 3, 2006

Tony Blair told President George Bush that he was "solidly" behind US plans to invade Iraq before he sought advice about the invasion's legality and despite the absence of a second UN resolution, according to a new account of the build-up to the war published today.

A memo of a two-hour meeting between the two leaders at the White House on January 31 2003 - nearly two months before the invasion - reveals that Mr Bush made it clear the US intended to invade whether or not there was a second UN resolution and even if UN inspectors found no evidence of a banned Iraqi weapons programme.

http://politics.guardian.co.uk/iraq/story/0,,1700881,00.html

[ihelpu2see]

25. Will this be in the US New York Times on Monday??? eom

[cal04]

27. It should be. I guess you can check here later

click on the picture of the paper

http://www.nytimes.com/pages/pageone/index.html

[rodeodance]

28. says this was first reported last month--Bush & Blair are silent

Discussing Provocation

Without much elaboration, the memo also says the president raised three possible ways of provoking a confrontation. Since they were first reported last month, neither the White House nor the British government has discussed them.

"The U.S. was thinking of flying U2 reconnaissance aircraft with fighter cover over Iraq, painted in U.N. colours," the memo says, attributing the idea to Mr. Bush. "If Saddam fired on them, he would be in breach."

It also described the president as saying, "The U.S. might be able to bring out a defector who could give a public presentation about Saddam's W.M.D," referring to weapons of mass destruction.

A brief clause in the memo refers to a third possibility, mentioned by Mr. Bush, a proposal to assassinate Saddam Hussein. The memo does not indicate how Mr. Blair responded to the idea......

[karynnj]

43. It's in this morning's print copy on the front page.

I'm hesitent to think the NYT has changed, but they are carrying this prominently.

[rodeodance]

29. The reporters name is clickable but I the message said to try later! I

was going to write to say thanks---then ask why so late!

[jaysunb]

32. Very old info

but , I suppose you can say " better late than never......."

[antonialee839]

34. Way to keep up with current events New York Times!

[CamanoCal]

35. Regardless of the paintjob - a U2 is a MILITARY spy plane

This Bush brainstorm beats all.
Using that scramble-brained justification for military action;
We paint red crosses on a B-52 and fly it over Pyongyang. Kim Jong il fires on this humanitarian relief plane and we can declare war on North Korea?



Humm...

[DoYouEverWonder]

41. Sure looks like his crazy idea worked

on 9-11. No wonder Condi couldn't imagine turning passenger jets into missiles. She knew it was the other way around.

BTW: Welcome to DU :hi:

[Lindacooks]

36. Bush used the word 'internecine'????

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Fat chance.

[saddemocrat]

45. That's what I thought!

LOL

[chrisau214]

58. Perhaps it was his 'word of the day'.

But that would imply that he reads and has an interest in learning anything new so it must have come in through the earpiece.



Chris

[wordpix2]

83. it's from his PDB Vocab lesson of the day

[Career Prole]

60. If he did, he mangled it.

"Inter-neckin'" would be about right for him.
That's conventional inter-neckin' of course, as opposed to nucular inter-neckin'!

[Ignacio Upton]

37. FUCKINGAHAHAH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I never read about this article, even though it has been talked about by other DUers. This doesn't surprise me one bit about what he was doing. I remember that even after Hans Blix filed a report stating that he couldn't find any weapons, that Bush still wanted go in, and his supporters used the excuse that a March date was required because if we went in in May or later, the warm weather would hinder our operation.

The idea of provoking Saddam to shoot down one of our planes smacks of Gulf of Tonkin or the USS Maine sinking (although the cause of the former has been proved, the latter of these vents is debateable, but I'm just making an historical analogy.) This news story makes the Downing Street Memo pale in comparision. Bush should be impeached for this, and for breaking FISA. Censure is too good for him, IMHO after reading this article.

[livvy]

38. Kick. n/t

[Barad Simith]

39. ABC News covered it this morning

about 3 am Pacific (U.S.) time

[rodeodance]

71. did they say it was reported last month?

[Barad Simith]

115. no, they treated it like late-breaking news

but it was nice to see it 'treated' at all in the msm

[adigal]

40. Unbelievable - Bush wanted to use his new paint-by-numbers set

that his Mommy gave him, and paint a US warplane UN colors, to promote an attack on the plane.

Is this not putting US forces in danger to provoke war illegal???

[IndianaGreen]

42. The people that leaked this story to British press are being prosecuted

as we speak in a secret court for violation of the Official Secrets Act. I just remembered the connection to this story! The British papers were threatened with prosecution if they published this story which was broken by a Rupert Murdoch newspaper of all things.

The fact that the NY Times is now publishing the same facts a few months later will pull the rug from Blair's effort to stiffle the British press.

Someone else leaked the documents to the NY Times!

[lonestarnot]

44. This is not breaking news!

[DemGa]

46. I hope this is not like the last memos

If I recall correctly, no hard copy--all destroyed.

[Teena]

48. I just don't get it...

how much more evidence do we need? We have the empirical evidence that the Bush team along with the Brits were going to do it. The Downing Street Memos are that proof!

[wordpix2]

85. all we need now is a *blowjob with an intern & we'll have it made

[SheepyMcSheepster]

49. well, here I am kicking another smoking gun thread. yay.

recommended as well.

[catmandu57]

50. I knew this was going to happen in 2000

It didn't take any great foresight either, bubba knew, that's one of the main reasons so many of them voted for the idiot. You could see them wink wink nudge nudge ole saddam is going to get his and we'll have .50 a gallon gas.
Well, now the war gone bad, bubba is paying out the nose for gas and the only people who still support this moran* are the end of the world crowd.
In my opinion the most dangerous of the lot.

[0007]

51. catmandu57, you're right on target.

[lfairban]

114. $0.50 a gallon gas.

That is what I came to believe was what they were thinking. But until now, I can't recall anyone saying it.

[shantipriya]

53. Impeach?!

No chance of impeachment. A congress that cannot find more than a handful of members in support of censure cannot be expected to impeach ,no matter how strong and damaging any new memos,etc.
Remember, the elected officials don't work for the people once they are elected--they work for special interests and in case of Repugs,are blindly loyal to the party leadership.
So let's not waste our time talking and discussing impeachment!

[raccoon]

103. Truer words were never spoken (or typed?)

the elected officials don't work for the people once they are elected--they work for special interests

[FatDave]

54. Hoo boy.

Did the Times dig this back out in retalliation for the "blame the press for bad news" strategy? Will we see all those other pieces of damning evidence suddenly get reported now too? Wouldn't it be nice.

[IndianaGreen]

56. I wonder how long the NY Times sat on this story

You could be right, FatDave!

[Heywood J]

99. I'm curious too,

if he pissed them off by blaming them. Perhaps the Times was worried that after the past few years, the public might believe him - given what's been spent on indoctrination.

[AzDar]

55. Chimpolini has committed High Treason.... n/t

[abester]

57. Geeeee what a surprise...

who would have thought??? I mean, the prez and his veep said numerous times they were bent on diplomacy

[MissMillie]

59. Isn't this memo #2

Downing Street wasn't damning enough?

[electropop]

118. So finally MSM discovers DSM?

Only a year or so late? :wtf:

[kentuck]

62. This confirms the first memo that stated something similar.....

..that the intelligence was "fixed". This also confirms that Bush and Blair are both covering their own lying asses...

[Greylyn58]

64. Will this finally...FINALLY wake up the masses

to what this criminal mis-administration has been doing?

There has to be a breaking point for most of the people. With some of his follwers, there will never be an awakening. They are a lost cause, but the rest have to see through his web of lies eventually.

I hope. :eyes:

[michael_1166]

75. As long as there's cheap beer and cable TV for the masses,

they won't wake up.

[sellitman]

77. *perk*

Did someone say "cheap beer" ?

:9

[wordpix2]

87. maybe the cable cos. will preempt MTV programming for real * news

oh, whoops, I was thinking of a different country. In Amerika, the important shows like American Idol and The Apprentice take precedence.

[AlCzervik]

67. "The start date for the military campaign was now penciled in for 10 March

Penciled in??

[rodeodance]

69. K

[Gman]

70. I question this document's authenticity because

Bush doesn't know words as big as "internecine". }(

[rodeodance]

72. it is dated march 27 in nytimes today (website) No page number given

http://nytimes.com/2006/03/27/international/europe/27memo.html?hp&ex=1143435600&en=b6593aee0e01d384&ei=5094&partner=homepage
March 27, 2006
Leaders
Bush Was Set on Path to War, Memo by British Adviser Says
By DON VAN NATTA Jr.

LONDON — In the weeks before the United States-led invasion of Iraq, as the United States and Britain pressed for a second United Nations resolution condemning Iraq, President Bush's public ultimatum to Saddam Hussein was blunt: Disarm or face war.

But behind closed doors, the president was certain that war was inevitable. During a private two-hour meeting in the Oval Office on Jan. 31, 2003, he made clear to Prime Minister Tony Blair of Britain that he was determined to invade Iraq without the second resolution, or even if international arms inspectors failed to find unconventional weapons, said a confidential memo about the meeting written by Mr. Blair's top foreign policy adviser and reviewed by The New York Times.

"Our diplomatic strategy had to be arranged around the military planning," David Manning, Mr. Blair's chief foreign policy adviser at the time, wrote in the memo that summarized the discussion between Mr. Bush, Mr. Blair and six of their top aides.

"The start date for the military campaign was now penciled in for 10 March," Mr. Manning wrote, paraphrasing the president. "This was when the bombing would begin."

[stubtoe]

74. I just wanna know - why wasn't this article in the SUNDAY Times?

Where I could peruse it with glee over my coffee? Along with millions of other folks.

[The Wizard]

80. Illegal and Immoral

Some things never change.
Several years ago we had a president from Texas who took office under unusual circumstances. He then prodeeded to start a war predicated on lies.
Over 58 thousand American troops were sacrificed, and over 58 thousand families and extended families took a direct hit. It took a steady stream of people marching in the streets to bring an end to the carnage.
Pounding the pavement instead of pounding the keyboard is what it will take.
March on Washington April 25. Veterans will be there to ask the law makers why we have to sacrifice our earned benefits for Paris Hilton's tax cuts among other things.

[catmandu57]

89. Welcome to DU Wizard

You're right we need to be in the street, and more that once a year, we need to build a camp right at DC's doorstep like the bonus marchers and parade there every day.

[The Wizard]

97. Bonus Army

The veterans march will commerate the 75th anniversary of the Bonus Army.
All are invited to join.

[Jack Rabbit]

82. Away with Bush and the neocons!!

United Nations Prison, The Hague

[Chiyo-chichi]

84. WH has not discussed them?

>Since they were first reported last month, neither the White House nor the British government has discussed them.<

Why weren't these "three possible ways of provoking a confrontation" raised at the press conference last week? Particularly the UN plane plot? Scheming to paint a U2 plane in UN colors does not jibe with wanting war as a last resort. I imagine that every reporter in the room knew about this memo. After Helen Thomas was bold enough to raise the issue, surely ONE of the others could have had the integrity to raise this point.

[wordpix2]

88. here's the part that's the most impeachable offense, IMO

p.1 snip: The memo also shows that the president and the prime minister acknowledged that no unconventional weapons had been found inside Iraq. Faced with the possibility of not finding any before the planned invasion, Mr. Bush talked about several ways to provoke a confrontation...

[dennis4868]

90. This is not such bad news.....

it could be worse...it could be news of a BJ in the oval office that effects nobody's life.

[galatea]

91. We knew that in 2001

why is it news NOW?

[BeyondThePale]

93. MUST. IMPEACH. NOW.

[highnooner]

95. This memo must be a fraud....

There is no way that Bush would have used the word, "internecine", in the statement "unlikely there would be internecine warfare between the different religious and ethnic groups."

[Mr_Scarecrow]

98. He was going for

"interesting."

[IndianaGreen]

110. Neither the White House nor 10 Downing have refuted the authenticity

of this memo, choosing to stonewall instead.

As Bush's use of "internecine", that's what the person that wrote the minutes wrote down, Gawd knows what Bush really said.

[Strawman]

116. Yes, hurry. Get Fuckhead to check out the font on that memo.

[scarface2004]

96. too bad saddam didn't call bush's bluff!

what if saddam had resigned, then bush invades anyway. saddam should have called chimperino's bluff, too bad he was too stupid to figure it out.

[NoodleyAppendage]

104. HE'S A FU*KING WAR CRIMINAL!!!! At some point he will pay the price...

The blood of THOUSANDS are on the hands of our FASCIST in CHIEF. I count the days until he will pay the price for his war crimes. I hope he burns in hell.

J

[Jack Rabbit]

105. Further comment

Please click here (General Discussion) or here (Jack Rabbit's Warren).

[IndianaGreen]

111. Been to the rabbit warren

and I agree: IMPEACH BUSH!

[Jack Rabbit]

112. Thank you, IG

I posted that over at The Nation, too.

[Strawman]

117. It's like Alan Shore said last week on Boston Legal

http://www.boston-legal.org/19-stickit/ep19-stickit.shtml

Now this latest revelation makes it clear beyond any reasonable doubt that Bush was willing to not just lie but to attempt to provoke in order to manufacture an acceptable pretext for war. The level of dishonesty is just staggering.

And you know what? This revelation actually scares the shit out of me because my faith in the public has been shaken. If this is acceptable, if he gets away with this, what constitutes going too far in the court of public opinion? If the public doesn't stop this now, if it doesn't result in more than a dip in his approval rating, I'm really afraid for this country.

[yorkiemommie1]

119. we've got a couple of rogue leaders here

playing w/ the other nations of the world as if they were checkers on their own personal board. truly appalling.

[pepperbear]

120. NY Times obtains secret memo of Bush, Blair meeting before Iraq war

http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/NY_Times_to_report_on_secret_0326.html

[msongs]

121. heard story about this on cbs radio news this morning at 6 am nt

[patrice]

122. Now, will the NY Times request the U.S. corelate to the Downing

Street Minutes through the courts?

[m0nkeyneck]

125. "internecine"

would he ever use this word when speaking to his subjects?

[TheDonkey]

129. This bombshell news report has been buried today

these criminals are on the run. A cabniet chakeup won't fool America for long. We just need to get this story out!? No surprise none of the cable outlets are mentioning it. Only saw it mentioned in the ticker @ 4am est time!