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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 04:18 PM
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Houston Police Take Protesting Students Into Custody
This is the first I heard about custody. I've heard about disciplinary actions, but not custody.

HOUSTON -- More students in the Houston area protested Tuesday for the second day in a row as the U.S. Senate considers proposed changes to the country's immigration laws.

. . .

Houston police said they have taken some students into custody and that several others were cited for daytime curfew violations.

full story

http://www.click2houston.com/news/8314722/detail.html
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RubyDuby in GA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 04:22 PM
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1. Daytime curfew?
I hope it was the yellow coded curfew.

Everyday we get farther and farther away from what we used to be - a decent society where the rule of law and people's rights were respected.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 04:25 PM
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2. Daytime Curfew...what the hell....?
Is it just for highschool students to keep them in schools? or is this....nevermind...they couldn't have a day time curfew for adults because they have to work.....hunh?
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 11:54 AM
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29. It's another word for truancy
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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 05:21 PM
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14. What does yellow coded mean?
I've never heard that before. Does it have to do with the colors of the terra alerts?
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RubyDuby in GA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 10:04 PM
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26. It's a reference to V for Vendetta
They have forced curfews and I noticed one of them was a yellow coded curfew.

The movie gets :thumbsup: :thumbsup: from me. Definitely see it.
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 11:59 AM
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30. (OT) I second that emotion.
It was a powerful graphic novel, and I winced a bit to see someone trying a movie adaptation. But I was very pleasantly surprised, and it exceeded my expectations.

Let's hear it for a decent Moore adaptation! :)
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 04:27 PM
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3. There are too many students and too few police, if
students stay united, they can bring the whole city of Houston to a friggin standstill. Go students!
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 04:34 PM
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4. Is this the start of the Revolution? Could it be?
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 04:40 PM
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5. Here's hoping! Stranger things have happened. These HS
students walking out have a definite revolutionary potential.

I'm in Los Angeles. Yesterday, acc. to the L.A.U.S.D., 22,000 HS students walked out all over the city. (That's probably a conservative estimate, as I've heard numbers as high as 40,000.) They totally fucked up L.A. traffic downtown during much of the day. More power to them.

This morning at 8 a.m. I heard a group of about 100 from Venice H.S. marching by my apartment in the pouring rain. I grabbed my "Pinche Bush" sign and ran outside as fast as I could to lend my support to them. Many of them saw the sign and were appreciative of it.

WorldCantWait.org did some wonderful organizing work out here in local high schools and I'm not sure whether they've been helping organize it. But the LAPD can't do anything; imagine the television coverage if they start beating in the heads -- one of their preferred tactics when the natives get too uppity -- of unarmed high school students. I'm loving it, watching Chief Bratton eating numerous shit sandwiches and all the L.A.U.S.D. bureaucrats shitting their pants at the the fear that they might lose their state per diems for each student who walks out.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 04:45 PM
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6. Thanks for reporting your experience....
these kind of marches do catch on...and will become larger.....Cindy Sheehan started this....and I hope that all groups participate and make bigger impacts..:applause:
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 04:54 PM
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7. Much as I like Cindy, I'd like to think Michael Moore's
acceptance speech at the 2003 Academy Awards was the initial spark. That's not to diminish Cindy's efforts one iota, but Moore was the first readily identifiable public figure to speak out on national television. Or am I also forgetting a possible predecesor to Moore?
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 04:57 PM
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8. Actually you are correct....Michael was the first outspoken
public figure...(He should be recognized for this)

Cindy got the peaceful protest and sit in going....
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 05:03 PM
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10. I still remember how good I felt the morning after MM's speech
at work and the sullen faces of my pro-war cohort when I mentioned MM's speech. HAH! MM and I were right and they were all punked!
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Zen Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 06:31 PM
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25. How about the Dixie Chicks?
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 01:43 PM
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32. Oh, yeah, I think they pre-date Michael Moore by a couple months.
Thanks for the note. In the case of the Dixie Chicks, they actually suffered some adverse consequences for "speaking out," as they were banned from many radio stations. Moore's speaking out probably benefitted him, not to take away from the nobility of his gesture.
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 01:43 PM
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33. Oh, yeah, I think they pre-date Michael Moore by a couple months.
Thanks for the note. In the case of the Dixie Chicks, they actually suffered some adverse consequences for "speaking out," as they were banned from many radio stations. Moore's speaking out probably benefitted him, not to take away from the nobility of his gesture.
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Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 05:02 PM
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9. Sheehan had nothing to do with this
They're demonstrating against immigration reform - and frankly, are going beyond the scheduled demonstrations set by their elders.

I don't think we need underaged drivers maiming more kids. The point was made - further unrest will only generate public animosity to their cause.
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 05:06 PM
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12. What do you mean by 'public' -- I support them walking out,
most of my cohort in the anti-war movement supports them walking out and a good portion of the Latino population in L.A. supports them walking out. Oh, I get it, you mean it will generate public animosity among white upper middle-class people to their cause.

You need to read the entire thread before weighing in. We were talking about the revolutionary potential and who was most responsible for creating it, if it exists. One poster said Cindy Sheehan and I responded with Michael Moore. Both of those figures made it possible to speak out against authority when authority is in the wrong.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 05:40 PM
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18. What coalition_unwilling said....
It's the revolution potential...is it the catalyst that will get more Americans to stand up and make this corrupt Government stand down....?

During the Selma, Alabama marches they went back and marched again....they were hosed and the dogs were let loose on them and yet they went back and marched again...This is revolution...this is standing up.....

This country is ready.....
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Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 05:51 PM
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23. I read the entire thread and Sheehan still had nothing t o do with this
I think you're grasping for straws - nothing indicates that these students are making any statement about the war.

Revolutionary potential? Now you're scaring me - I want progress, not social chaos.
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 01:49 PM
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34. Are you serious? In L.A., the big Saturday demonstration
featured thousands of demonstrators carrying "World Can't Wait - Drive Out the Bush Regime" placards. In addition, thousands of A.N.S.W.E.R. banners were in evidence in Saturday's demonstration (A.N.S.W.E.R. stands for "Act Now to Stop War and End Racism").

The students may not be making any statement about the war, but that wasn't what I was referring to anyway. I was discussing what had made the climate of protest\demonstration\walk out possible. My hypothesis was that it was Michael Moore's speak out at Academy Awards, in response to an earlier poster who credited Cindy Sheehan. Subsequently, another poster noted (correctly, I believe) that the Dixie Chicks spoke out before Michael Moore.

I'm sorry you are scared by "revolution." Did the bloodless revolution that ended apartheid in South Africa scare you? How about Castro's seizure of power from the incredibly corrupt and brutal Batista?

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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 01:50 PM
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35. Are you serious? In L.A., the big Saturday demonstration
featured thousands of demonstrators carrying "World Can't Wait - Drive Out the Bush Regime" placards. In addition, thousands of A.N.S.W.E.R. banners were in evidence in Saturday's demonstration (A.N.S.W.E.R. stands for "Act Now to Stop War and End Racism").

The students may not be making any statement about the war, but that wasn't what I was referring to anyway. I was discussing what had made the climate of protest\demonstration\walk out possible. My hypothesis was that it was Michael Moore's speak out at Academy Awards, in response to an earlier poster who credited Cindy Sheehan. Subsequently, another poster noted (correctly, I believe) that the Dixie Chicks spoke out before Michael Moore.

I'm sorry you are scared by "revolution." Did the bloodless revolution that ended apartheid in South Africa scare you? How about Castro's seizure of power from the incredibly corrupt and brutal Batista?

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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 05:35 PM
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17. There is rage in the Latino Community.
It is appropriate, under the circumstances. Sometimes rage must be expressed, Freda. Frankly, such expression is long overdue, especially from the young and people from "minorities".

Long overdue.

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Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 12:02 PM
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31. I don't blame 'em
My point was that it was wrong to make a connection between their rage and the anti-war movement. Cindy Sheehan and Michael Moore didn't mobilize these crowds.

That said, I think they're doing themselves a disservice by not showing more discipline. The original demonstrations were scheduled and peaceful - to take off a Jon Stewart riff, who would *want* to hire these kids?
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 10:33 PM
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27. 'Tis the start of something big, I think!
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 05:05 PM
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11. Slipping down the drain
The First Amendment, that is.
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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 05:26 PM
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16. Not without a damned big fight
And just think. I'm a peacenik.
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951-Riverside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 05:11 PM
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13. These kids have been bringing eggs, rocks, cans, bottles, etc
and if it continues through the coming days its just going to get nastier so you will continue to see more arrests.
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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 05:24 PM
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15. No report of that
Just that exercise of civil disobedience. They arrested kids I'm guessing for backtalking the officers. Or they might have been kids with other truancy violations.

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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 05:47 PM
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21. My experiences with the HPD
during our protests has been plesant. They have been protecting us more than anything. My guess is that it is a truancy thing. As long as the kids don't get out of control it will be ok.....Wish we could have this many folks at our anti war rallies....
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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 11:42 AM
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28. Same here
I wish we could get the "adults" fired up like this on lots of issues.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 05:41 PM
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19. Is the MSM reporting this? Is this the same MSM
that reported the looting and shooting in NO?

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951-Riverside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 05:46 PM
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20. Thats the thing its not being reported
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 05:48 PM
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22. Interesting....
Thanks for the headsup!
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-29-06 02:15 PM
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36. Just like all the "good stuff" that's happening in Iraq?
Darn that Liberal Media!
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TriMetFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-28-06 06:03 PM
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24. Let me say:
We American Latinos and when I say American Latinos, I mean the ones that where born here in the U.S.A. are starting to get piss and are willing to stand by our brothers and sisters. I don't agree about coming here illegally but until the our Government starts fining and closing down any company or any one that hires a none legal worker, I will stand by all the Latinos. I also think this is going to be the one issue that is going to bring all American Latinos together. And the rest of our American brother and sister will see that we Latinos come in many colors and we will not be kick around any more. The Rapeblican party will have a very rude a waking this November.
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