13-year-old boy charged for threatening Bush

[Bhaisahab]

Associated Press
Posted online: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 at 1436 hours IST

http://www.expressindia.com/fullstory.php?newsid=65131

Florence, March 29: A 13-year-old boy was charged with threatening President George W Bush - who is scheduled to travel to nearby Cincinnati next week - in two e-mails sent to the Mayor, police said.

Investigators did not find anything in a search of the boy's home to make them think he was planning to carry out the alleged threats, police captain Linny Cloyd said.

The teen was in the custody of his mother at their home on Tuesday. He faces one felony count of making a terroristic threat and is to appear in Boone county family court within two weeks.

SNIP

Police said the first e-mail was also sent to the white house, Vice President Dick Cheney and the Pentagon.

full story at link above.

hey monkey, get a clue. even the kids are pissed off with you.

[Skittles]

1. ya can't threaten the prez

it's a zero tolerance thing

[uberblonde]

2. Unless you're a Republican official...

Or news "commenter" like Ann Coulter.

[mmonk]

5. You got it.

[saigon68]

33. the chimpanzee doesn't threaten children he kills them

[ixion]

6. exactly, IOKIYAR

:grr:

[theHandpuppet]

7. Or a Fundie preacher

Just how many govt officials has old Pat threatened lately -- and on the public airwaves.

[astroBspacedog]

24. Or Jesse Helms

OOPS, repeat, --- Guess I should have read the rest of the thead first. Sorry folks.:-)

[icymist]

31. Yeah! How many SCOTUS justices has Robertson publicly prayed would die?

Not just die, but suffer horrible deaths like cancer!?!

[Bozita]

23. Didn't Jesse Helms threaten President Bill Clinton?

Something like 'if I were President, I wouldn't travel to North Carolina.'

[Jim Warren]

46. Thas ah, well ah, jess ah little NC oldboy humor

:sarcasm:

[AngryOldDem]

28. Then it's "just a joke"

Wink, wink. Nudge, nudge.

[rpannier]

3. To me

there's nothing amusing about what this kid did. I doubt anyone on DU would find it at all amusing if he e-mailed the threat to Clinton when he was President or to Sen Boxer or Feingold. WQhat this kid did is a crime and there should be some punishment for what he did.
If he was serious he needs help. If he did it to be funny, he needs to lose his e-mailing priviledges for quite some time among other things.

[flordehinojos]

11. it is probable that had this kid mailed something like that to clinton, or

boxer, or feingold he would not have been criminally charged with threatening them. his parents may have been told of the threat and a family council might have ensued, out of which, some therapy might have resulted, or perhaps just a way for the kid to express himself, through his right of freedom of expression in a constructive way, through writing and publishing some oped-piece in some newspaper.

the kid has had it with asshole, he is expressing his frustration. he needs to learn to do it in a constructive way, and american democracy needs to help him learn how to do that. some newspaper ought to afford him the opportunity to publish an oped piece of his own.

[rodeodance]

18. i do not find it amusing--but he needs help and guideance--NOT felony

charges.

[Ben Ceremos]

27. What this government

has done to the future is ample reason for the kid's threat. At least he didn't have access to firearms, (just sad he had to mention what would make a great target.) If he was serious, he would have prepared for the crime, no? Frankly, I find nothing wrong with threatening public officials. It's not as if they have been taking care of our interests..."Hang 'em high"!!!

[joeunderdog]

42. To some degree, this happens with ALL presidents.

They HAVE to investigate this, and if it was a direct threat, they probably have to press charges. The rest of the factors will be considered if/how the kid is punished. What if he's a hot head? You can't just assume this kid is an apple pie liberal. We just don't know.

I work in mental health and one of our clients--legitimately nuts--spent a year in Federal Prison in the Midwest after making a threat he probably never would or could carry out. No NGRI, do not pass GO...straight to jail.

[theHandpuppet]

4. An article in this morning's Cincy Enquirer

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060329/NEWS0103/603290388

[rodeodance]

16. "He is charged with one felony count of terroristic threatening"

[BR_Parkway]

32. Wasn't there a law against threatening the Prez before terrorist got

attached to everything? Sort of like the way the descriptor 'insurgent' gets tossed at too many people.

[Bake]

36. It's always been called "terroristic threatening"

Even before it became popular to label everything "terrorist."

Bake

[coalition_unwilling]

37. He's a terrorist disguised as a child (eom)

[file83]

8. I wanna know what he said....was it

"I'm gonna kill you!!!"

Or was it more like...

"I'm going to FART on you!!"

[rfranklin]

10. "I fart in your general direction!" (with a phoney French accent)

Monty Python and the Holy Grail.

[dflprincess]

49. Oh-oh

one of things I yell at the TV when Bush is on is "I fart in your general direction." I could be in trouble.

And then, there's my 14 year old nephew. My sister-in-law just had conferences with his teachers. His social studies teacher mentioned to her that my nephew is always ready to do some Bush bashing during discussions and generally makes very good points. Fortunately, the teacher seemed amused by this.

[Minnesota Libra]

9. We should all be proud - very proud that Home Land Security is...........

....on the job and on top of everything:sarcasm: - including 13 year olds. Excuse me, my kids were politically aware at 13 as well.:eyes: Plus, with a computer, yes the kid had access to information.:argh: The Mom and the kid should have both told officials they were strict fundies.:puke:

[Javaman]

22. As much as I hate moron*, threatening a prez is not cool...

and when we live in an age, were everyone and their uncle can get a weapon and kids go into their schools and shoot them up, I wouldn't take his threat lightly either.

[no_hypocrisy]

12. Terrorist punk. No dinner and then on to Guantanamo.

[rodeodance]

13. says they seized his computer. I fear for this boy.

......Cloyd went to the teen's home on Monday night with agents from the FBI and secret service. He said the boy's parents consented to the search, during which a computer was seized.

"He is extremely well-versed in the history of President Bush," Cloyd said. "In talking with him, you can tell this is a hot-button topic with him."

Police said the first e-mail was also sent to the white house, Vice President Dick Cheney and the Pentagon.

Bush is scheduled to be across the Ohio River on Monday to throw out the first pitch on opening day for the Cincinnati reds.

[fasttense]

14. In our dysfunctional society it is ok for religious leaders

and political commentators to threaten public figures but not 13 year old boys.

The Mayor said this. "I think the key thing here is you can't ignore any threat in these times." Except if those threats are issued in public by religious leaders or political commentators.

[HughBeaumont]

15. Hell, Jesse Helms threatened Clinton and got away with it . . .

On Nov. 22, Helms, slated to be the new chair of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, said Clinton is so unpopular on military bases in North Carolina that "he better watch out if he comes down here. He'd better have a bodyguard."

Once again, IOKIYAR! Or a half-senile Klan-sympathizer Senatah.

[rodeodance]

17. that was "pre-9/11 mentality. Everything has changed."--Meaningful

words now.

[Bozita]

26. oops

My apologies for posting #23 before reading the complete thread.

[Demeter]

19. I Think Bush Should Stay Home, Then

If it's so dangerous, Bush should confine himself to the White House and Crawford. If the peasants are revolting, maybe he can join CHeney in an undisclosed location. Dick is capable of protecting his Pres with his ever-ready shotgun. Or in extreme need, he could do a Taylor and bolt for safety in wxile!

[UpInArms]

20. Press Briefing by Ari Fleischer - September 26, 2001

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/09/20010926-5.html

reminders to all Americans that they need to watch what they say, watch what they do.

[Kelvin Mace]

21. Some kid threatened Al Gore?

[Freddie Stubbs]

30. How in the world would Al Gore be President?

He didn't even run in 2004.

[Kelvin Mace]

41. He won in 2000, and would have been re-elected in 2004

We are currently under a government of occupation. Bush wasn't legitimately elected in either race.

[Freddie Stubbs]

50. Even if Kerry had won in 2004?

:shrug:

[Kelvin Mace]

51. Kerry wouln't have run in 2004

since the party would defer to the incumbent.

[Freddie Stubbs]

52. But he did run

So isn't Kerry the imaginary President now?

[Kelvin Mace]

57. The original post was humor

Why I am debating this I don't know.

[superconnected]

25. fear, paranoia, hatred of dissenting opinions, afraid of 13year olds

threats.

You're some mouse george.

[David__77]

29. Arresting children shows the government's weakness and fear.

This is a CHILD. I'm sure in many countries children are arrested for "threatening the head of state." But the US should have no arrogance on its "human rights" record.

[NIGHT TRIPPER]

34. What did he SAY? no mention of WHAT HE SAID- was is direct or implied?

Whatever the kid said must have been really stupid
- like the world would be better of "if..."--or something super vague.

THIS really should NOT be on the AP wire unless it is qualified a bit.


likely a scare tactic for others who would speak against our K'Mander 'n Cheef.

[NIGHT TRIPPER]

35. self delete--posted same one twice --oops

[Radio_Guy]

38. A 13-year-old who hates Bush

Obviously someone raised him right.

[Rocknrule]

39. I kill people with the screenname "GeorgeWBush" in online Halo

does that make me a terraist?

[Dead_Parrot]

40. It probably makes you a priority target...

:evilgrin:

[Rocknrule]

55. Well, after whacking "GeorgeWBush" over the head with my rifle butt

in one game, I typed the message "you're a shitty president, GeorgeWBush"

[warrens]

43. And we were starting to worry about the next generation...nt

[Nihil]

44. Yah boo terra terra!

> Investigators did not find anything in a search of the boy's home to make
> them think he was planning to carry out the alleged threats

So WTF did they press charges if it wasn't for the ever-present hype about
"terrorists"? Fine, investigate any threat if you have to but once even the
local police have recognised the above, why press charges??

Hey Bush! I hope you die painfully and soon. You deserve it for all the
agony, heartbreak and murder that you have committed across the planet.

(BTW, Agent Mike? You can f*** off too).

[gorbal]

45. I found another article

There is more information in this article here-

http://news.cincypost.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060329/NEWS01/603290357

They sure are taking care of us, protesting us from vicious 13 year olds with to much time on their hands...sigh.

[genieroze]

53. Good old Zero Tolerance Schools butting in.

Boone County Deputy Schools Superintendent Randy Poe said the boy will have a hearing before Superintendent Bryan Blavatt, who will ultimately determine whether the teen will be expelled.

Was this done from school? If not why the heck should he be expelled for something he did at home and why was he suspended? They said they took his home computer, did they take the schools as well? They said it was anonymous in a different article. Obviously not. Guess the kid doesn't know about anon re-mailers and proxy servers.

[DrBloodmoney]

47. Cue flight to Gitmo, Cuba in 1, 2, 3...

[VegasWolf]

48. Was he going to shoot Bush with his sling shot? nt

[genieroze]

54. Maybe a spitball. Gotta watch what you write and how it's worded.

I would love to know what the e-mail said. If he said he was going to kill Bush, yup that's a BIG threat. Kick his butt, yup a threat. Protest him when he visits, not a threat in the past but a threat now.

[DanCa]

56. Well maybe the chimp is just jealous because

the thirteen year old can actually ride a bike without falling down?

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

58. Sounds like a fair fight.

After school at the monkey bars, beyatch!